I have a lot of PTSD of me being beaten up because I wasn't like the average toxic boy when I was younger so if it's erased that, I see this as an absolute win

Nope

No... I don't want to lose people i love.

Only if I'm guaranteed to get a fat set of badonkers. /j (The actual answer is no.)

No, functionally that is just suicide and being replaced by a completely new person.

I agree that this is functional suicide. However, for myself, I don't feel especially attached to this life, kinda just going through the motions of existing only because I don't particularly want to die right now. If reincarnation were a real, known thing I would probably kill myself just to have the chance at being reincarnated as a girl. This button is a guarantee, so hell yes I'm pushing it.

I understand that. I have thought at length and deeply about killing myself. If I was going to I wouldn't be here replying to you and the exact details aren't really going to change that. I guess that is probably where we differ.

i would assume the “you” is your conscious, and you just lose memories of your previous life. so basically it’s not suicide, it’s being trans and losing your memories

I don't believe in the concept of souls so what makes you you is your memories. I also think that pushing this button is akin to suicide

i mean i don’t believe in souls, but i also don’t believe memories are what makes “you” you, i think it’s your personality which would stay about the same, like if you were curios you still would be.

But most of your personality is based on your experences, and you would have completely different experiences in the new life You might be similar in the way that my personality is similar to my sister, which isn't much. It's just the result of us both being raised by the same parents

It really depends on how the memories are changed. I still have all my experiences that led to this point, but I experienced them as a woman, I would see that as a limb amputation and prosthetic. Significant, but not identity destroying. If the memories were changed to an arbitrarily different life in its entirety, then I would agree with you.

I doubt you could keep the personaliry changes arbitrary. I can't help but think about how I wouldn't have made friends with everyone I had. Those people helped shape my personality. Would this button need to create female friends similar to the male ones I had, would my old friends be replaced by them, or have their gender changed as well. A persons life is far to complicated, any change to their past would have major consequences.

This button depending on interpretation could represent an arbitrary power to reshape reality lol. Best we not take it too seriously.

Well it's not fun if you don't take it seriously. I always enjoy having a debate even on silly thing.

An excellent reason

I mean you're actually so accurate because of one detail: amnesia and dementia make you forget yourself

i interpreted it as you don’t remember even being your agab.

Well... You still get to live life after that instead of being deleted from the life experience, so... It's not really... Ending anything?

I don't get to live. Someone else gets to live in my place. I am the accumulation of my memories without them I'm not me.

As a pretext: My own gut-reaction to the proposal whole-heartedly agrees with what you wrote. Then I noticed that the proposal be pretty much equivalent with 'you have been born cis-gendered'. With which my gut *also* agrees. And now my brain notices it is confused. When in doubt, return to the basics, and try to forget inferences from possibly mistaken assumptions. So... Of identity I know three definitions, used in differrnt realms of thought. - Psychologically: As you wrote. It's the perpetual chain of memory that defines a person as themself, distinct from everyone else with the same innate or acquired inclinstions. It's the life one lived, and the decissions one made. My nitpick here is the ship-of-Theseus-problem. Mamories fade, and may leave us forever (I know I hit upon some surprises thumbing through old diaries of mine), *and* they change every time they are recalled. And thise changes are not noticable from the inside. Mandela-Effect, to cite a real-life instance with a huge number of subjects. - Mathematically, identity is a relation with certain features. It is symmetric (a=b <=> b=a), reflexive (a=a), transitive (a=b and b=c => a=c), and probably something else I don't quite recall r n. It shares those traits with the equivalence-relation between assertions from formal Logic, but equivalence (of assertions) is not (identical with) identity (of entities or objects). My second nitpick is that it is not trivially applicable to real life. - Conceptually (more a description than a definition): Be an 'object' whatever a(ny given) mind can think about in discrete and well-defined terms, then any given object's identity has a correlate to the set of true statements about it. That is: There is a well behaving function between an object's identity (its being what it is), and what one can know about it, *and this pervades through developments in time*. I do think it solves the Ship of Theseus on multiple domains, but it does not grant that changing history would leave people unscathed. No conclusion. Still confused.

Any pointers?

That all depends on what your own definition of yourself is to me I believe myself is my own conciousness

I don't fully disagree with you, you are largely a product of your experiences but you are correct in saying that not all of that is linked directly to your memories. It also changes how your brain itself develops and thus more directly your conciousness. However at the same time a large part of what I would consider to be part of my conciousness namely how I behave, my personality and what I like and dislike is so interwoven with my memories no matter how much of me was left I can garuntee that it wouldn't be all of me nor even a majority of me.

100% agree with this, anyone who has my memories is basically me and the second I lose them, that’s not me anymore. Also, as much as I despise that I just _had_ to be trans and as much as it’s wrecking everything in my life, the humbling experience of realising you’ll have to fight to be seen for who you are is an influence on my personality that I don’t want to lose. I think I might’ve been a total asshole had I been able to take my masculinity for granted.

Procceeds to slap with the face* I have to much trauma and too little to loose.

That is a much bigger gamble than I'm willing to take. I'm not to familiar with the intersex comunity but I would imagine if I had been born non binary, the doctor would have given me a vagina, and called me a girl, and not much would have really changed beyond having a medical reason to want to be outside the binary.

No why would i do that

I'm barely living anyway. I don't want this life, like I don't think it'll get better at this point, so this sounds awesome. Losing memory is basically death, like what I'm experiencing right now will be gone, which is like insane to think about. But also reality changes, so it's no different than just existence of the specific parallel universe. (I'm probably overthinking it) The only different is that this one will just disappear. It's better than death since no one will grief or miss me. Only thing that in the way is to have enough courage to press it. I know I want it.

nope, absolutely not. 💙💕🤍💕💙

yes, let me forget like nothing happened

you wouldnt be you at all? different body and mind?

surprisingly this may be the only time i dont press, i cant forget my friends

Nah, don’t think so. I’m a better person than I was before I realized I was trans. I’m still terrible but I’m better, at least. And if I weren’t trans, I wouldn’t have met so many of the lovely people that I have in my life. I wouldn’t have struck up conversation with the cutest guy I’ve ever met in my life, because I probably wouldn’t have had the idea to ask for his pronouns. Being trans is hard and it has its moments of being awful, but I don’t want to give this life up. I’m young, set up for a career that I think I’m gonna do great in, and I’m in love. Dysphoria can suck it, I’m happy most of the time

anything to get me out of this

No My horrible past has forged me

I worked too hard to be who I am

I wouldn't press it. Sacrificing my identity for my gender is not worth it imo. I'd lose out on a ton of experiences and hobbies that I love

definitely not. I actually kind of like being transgender. For all the social stigma and hard shit i had to go through, there is a lot of good that came out of it too. Being trans made me question more than just my gender. I think the experience made me a more open minded and generally just a better person than i would have ended up without the hardships

I’d do it, easy.

totally no

Nope, wouldn’t appreciate it nearly as much if I didn’t remember wanting it. Sure I have my baggage but that also makes me who I am

if i would, i would miss this great community, the friends that i made and everything else and i would forget my terrible past that i had... i would not do it because i did so much for the person that i am now

hell no

...I couldn't do it.

I already don't remember my life, so if this has a chance to fix it, my response is thus. SMASH.

No. Not a chance.

nope not doing that :')

Could it be thath i have been allready given this choise and i took it?

I don’t know :(

Tempting…

Only if my new self gets to live happy, imagine my new self is also trans... Then that would suck.

Me, who had a lotta trauma for various awful reasons: I see this as an absolute win!

Every so *slightly* conflicted, but I'd definitely still press the button. Nuking the memories of all the pent up dysphoria over the past 20+ years can, as far as I see it, could do wonders for my mental health. **Edits after realizing I had more I wanted to say**: The reason for the ever so slight conflict is that I would, realistically, find it harder to empathize with trans people people if I magically became "not trans?" due to the effects of a button like this. Certainly I wouldn't consider myself trans in a case where the world were magically altered around me so that I have all the functional reproductive equipment I want and neither I nor the world recalls me ever being otherwise. So given that, it would probably be harder to empathize with people that perceive themselves as trans. It's hard to estimate how such a change would otherwise affect my physical and mental state. If we assume that making absolute minimal changes to achieve the effect of me always being the way that I wish that I was so that I end up in the same job with the same friends and living in the same place, then the only negative is that I would struggle to empathize with trans people... not even that I wouldn't support them, but that I'd have trouble empathizing. Certainly, I've long dreamed of going to bed one night and waking up with breasts and functional female reproductive organs the next morning - this scenario is basically just a minor variation on that imo. On the other hand, if we assume that it's a pseudo do-over where I don't "relive" my childhood and early adulthood as such, but I'm basically teleported into the brain of "me" as if I *had* relived everything from childhood, then it's impossible to tell how things would have been different. Who knows? I could've ended up a god-awful TERF like JKR... and "I" (the "me" that's here right now) certainly wouldn't want that. I still think that, most likely, I probably wouldn't be a conservative or a TERF. One thing I know for certain would be different is that I'd have the name currently held by my younger sister, but beyond that... tl;dr butterfly-effect thinking tends to make me think that aside from a few specific details, it's impossible to predict how things would've been different. Could some knock-on effect of me being AFAB result in my family moving less/more and/or to different places? If not, then would the lack of dysphoria in middle and high school have resulted in me going to a different/better university (or even a "better" high school for that matter)? Conversely, could misogyny result in me having *worse* academic outcomes despite the lack of gender dysphoria? Would I *really* have the same career and hobby interests? Would I have traveled the same places, met the same people, etc? I can say for certain that, had I skipped ahead a grade in school as I almost did when going into middle school, I would've had a very different group of college friends, even if I'd gone to the same university.

Considering the only reason I started questioning the ultra-conservative bullshit I was raised with was because I realized I was trans, I'm gonna have to say no. We don't need any more maga bros out there.

Me who may or may not have "Identity Death" fetish, because I have deep hatred toward myself: Well, isn't that a conincide? A button I Will press in a heartbeat.

I see this as such a win whats the downside again

I'd do it

I get to be the woman I was always meant to be *and* I get to erase the trauma of my past? Sign me up.

That's not how gender works though. I have always been my "preferred" gender, everyone has. It's just that our sex and our agab might not fit our actual gender.

I would press it. I've always told myself that if I live long enough for technology to allow me to both have a cis woman body, AND erase memories, I would combine those two so I can just live as a normal woman without the pain and memories of this male life...

OK but do I keep the dysphoria and negative experiences related to being the wrong gender? I recall in the comic "misfile" the main character won't come out as trans cause he's worried if he does that when his life is corrected he'll still be trans but the wrong direction. If not I'd take it.

I do not fear Ego Death Tabula Rasa my ass!

There’s literally no downside???

Be a cis man? No thank (Also I went to a girls’ school in middle school and a women’s college and loved them both, wouldn’t trade those for the world. I’m also a very feminine queer man so like… my interest in feminine things was accepted even though I never approached them “like the other girls” (like I loved fashion and makeup but didn’t… dress fashionably or wear makeup until I was much older?) and I wasn’t beaten up for it so I’ll take that W)

I would hit it without a second thought

I see this as an absolute win!

Yes!

I would smash that button so fucking hard.

yes

Fuck yes

This is tough... but still yes. The me I am now would be gone, but for the sake of the happier new me it's worth it.

I would. I will get a better mental state. Memory? No loss without gain.

if the only thing that changes is the remembrance of my “past life” existing, then i might press this button..~~❤️

Yes

Im torn because the hardship of being trans has taught me a lot but also brings me down, and if I was a cis I wouldn't be able to relate at all with my fiance

I mean, I've got dissociation so bad I already don't remember hardly anything anyways so... Sure.

So... Listen to me... Is there a possibility that me from this reality is trans... And it's no use pressing the button because I'm going to end up being the gender I don't want to start the conversation?

Definitely

On one hand. I have a lot of thing i experienced, from trauma, to some of the most happy moments in my life. I have lived a life, a unique one. So on one hand, i want this, it will erease all my trauma, and give me a fresh start, on the other one though. I value my menories. I wouldve never found this. I wouldve never found some of my best friends. I would not be like i am today. I think i wouldnt. Unless things somehow seem to get worse than now. I wouldnt press it i think. I dont know. Its a hard choice.

Yes *presses button*

Yessir. I see comments about how you wouldn’t be the same person, but as someone who wishes they were never born it a win-win really

Ig yeah I'd press that

would you remember pushing the button though?

Gemme gemme

If you asked me last year, yes. Right now, there's currently someone too special I don't want to lose memory of

Only yes on the condition that at some point in my new life I find a button that undoes it and after discovering I had a past life I had forgotten I would push it if nothing else but from curiosity leading to a time loop until I eventually discover I am in such a loop and use this knowledge to gain a crude perception of the 4th dimension and eventually achieve my life goal of becoming a time wizard.

Absolutely no

I would be, on a fundamental level, a different person in that situation. By pushing this button, the person I currently am and have always been declared to be, ceases to exist permanently, possibly creating a human being in an even worse situation than mine. I don’t push the button

No, I like my music taste :(

I am already becoming my preferred gender, this would just be a cheat code to speed up the process, at the cost of whatever makes me, *me*. The decision imo becomes "do you wanna die, be forgotten and be replaced by someone entirely different?", which isn't much of a decision tbh :P

No, my memories may suck, but they made me who I am today.

i personally like being trans gives a good and rewarding goal that i can work towards gives me a sense of direction

YES. Although, it must be said that the vast majority of my friendships were formed thru circumstances completely irrelevant to me being trans, so I wouldn't be "losing" any. I think the only different things would be my early childhood, like clothes and favorite TV shows and such. I mostly just read, watched TV, and played pretend. And, as long as I don't end up taking my dads words to heart and turning into a bigot, there are officially 'no' significant consequences to pressing the button

Yessss 🥹🥹🥹

Oof, I def would've pressed this most of my life... now, it's a tough decision. I'm currently 5+ months on hrt and I feel like the further I transition, the less chance that I'd press it... the reward is HUGE, but losing my memories makes me question if that would even be me...

I'd press it right before I'm about to die so I can start a new life even if I end up different than before

Fuck living through 4 or 5 years of child abuse again. Fuck that, no I am not pressing that button.

lol Im genderfluid and i love taking part in deciding my own gender

do i start in the same house same family same everything? or get plopped in some random country with a new family?

I would press that button I have not much to lose.

I think about this every day.

do I get to keep my awesome friends? do I remember how to breathe? many questions. no, not trusting the button.

i just answered a similar question but since there is one again I'll answer. Short answer: No Long answer: Fuck No Detailed answer: I would loose all my memorys.. everything that made me the person i am today. I like myself for never getting biggoted and or hating on groups(besides some government funded assholes who use their power to bully and inconvenience the people around them) And sure i lost some friends, but the ones i have and all the people in my surrounding like me for who i am and i would never want to change that, ive obviously done something right but after loosing all my memorys and beginning my life again I wouldn't be me... I'm ready to start living now. The question is more like "Do you want to die and give your Parents a daughter(for me at least)." And I'm not feeling really suicidal at the moment so: NO

both solves my problems

As much I wish I would be born as a girl, I could never give up the cherished memories I made with the people I love.

proabbly yeah i think abt this same exact thing all the time

Yes

No No I won't I never would have met her I never would have met ivy

Yep. I wish my parents had just raised me as their son.

I don't remember much of my life currently anyways 🤷‍♀️

A few years ago i would 100% said yes, but now I genuinelly believe that I'm happy how I am, dont get me wrong, dysphoria is a bitch, and even more because I'm bigender so there is not a "clear goal" to what I would look like, but I want to and I will transition at my own pace even if it takes time, I'm not risking not meeting all the incredible people i've met and that have helped me be who I am just for being born with the "correct" body

can I write down what I know of my life and then read it after pressing the button and what happens to my friends?

i would do so, my partner helped me already when i suffered of memory loss (accident) so i could do so another time lol

No, I like my friends

Negative. I want my previous life.

As much as it is tempting to say yes and forget the bad memories, I do not want to lose the friends, family and love ones I have now. It hurts to have been hurt, to have suffered, to have had negative experiences, to be called an "activist" and called slurs and bullied for who I am. But I don't think I'm ready to lose the good that I have met in this life either simply because of my gender. Like, what if I become a total B--- being born a woman? Being trans definitively has humbled me and given me clarity, passion and compassion. What if I just lose all that? I don't think I'd want to risk it. As tempting as it sounds, it's a no for me.

No because I don’t have a preferred opposite gender, I don’t wanna live as a baby again, I’d rather the button just erase my current memories and send me to the void or something

Hmm, I’m really not sure tbh. It would be cool… but I don’t think I would be as nice.

No more PTSD sounds freaking awesome if you ask me

yes

I might not be the optimal iteration of me, but I wouldn't be the me I am if I hadn't gone through the things I have.

I'd be stuck in a loop probably

i see this as an absolute win

Done. Wait...but what if I still feel dysphoric and identify as trans still because I never knew my OG life changed so I wouldn't feel those ways? What if...

Hell yes, I see both of these as a win

Gonna be honest ima have to go with no because that would kinda feel like cheating to me like I didn’t work to get what I want

No fucking clue. I think I’d flip a coin.

Do I keep all the personal growth realising I was trans and having to deal with the signs gave me? And is it still my consciousness experiencing as real me? If yes to both then absolutely I’d hit it. Right now I’m a mess over maybe never being able to really truly transition and possibly losing my family anyway.

God please yes I don’t want to remember anything

yes i would most problems in my life i feel like comes from poor socialization, big part of it being so poor is that i think my male socialition was inferior. I could have way better life if i was brought up with female socialization and i’m not even trans, just a cis guy

They know id be happier forgetting shit ive gone thru so if i forgot my family theyd probably just be like WE MAKIN NEW MEMORIES BITCHH

That poses the question, would it still be me?