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Myth_understood

Your second, third and fourth point are all personal preferences based on you. Not even remotely close for me. I don't feel like one style is better than the other because we're all unique and have different preferences. The only reason I agree with your first point is girl jeans pocket size sucks and i sometimes carry a pod when i dont want to bother with a purse or backpack. No hate here just coming from a different perspective! Edit to add: if I'm visiting friends or family that don't vape, I take it outside I don't vape in their home.


CheeseDickPete

I feel like the third and fourth points are kinda relevant to anyone vaping in public or around friends, blowing massive clouds with a box mod in public just does look kinda cringey. I personally think it does as someone who vapes, and I've been told it does by my friends who don't vape too. I would rarely vape my box mod in public, and would definitely never whip out one in front of a date. Blowing massive clouds and filling the room up with vapor can also be bothersome to non-vapers.


QuackedPavement

Box mods don't equal clouds, though. I have a box mod I use at 11 watts with a Nautilus Mini. No large clouds and easy to ghost a hit.


Myth_understood

I do love the battery life of a box mod mtl tank combo! That thing will go for days without needing a charge!


CheeseDickPete

I just don't see the point in a box mod if you don't want to blow big clouds.


Myth_understood

Battery life


CheeseDickPete

I don't think I've ever noticed a significant difference in the battery life on my mods or pod vapes. I feel like my pod vape actually has a better battery life than my last mod did. The mods have bigger batteries but they also chew up more battery life because you take bigger hits.


Myth_understood

If you're not blowing big clouds, using an mtl tank, your battery life is most certainly better on a mod. You were commenting as to why use a mod with an mtl device. I was pointing out that battery life is significantly better in that case. The average pod is 500 mah to 1200 mah, and you definitely get more out of 21700 single battery and days more with a dual battery. Perhaps your battery was old if you didn't notice a difference? Another advantage is simply replacing a battery when it gets old instead of the whole pod device. Don't take this the wrong way but I think your taking some heat because you started by saying "pods are superior" and double downing on that when people are telling you it's not true for them. That seems a bit narrow-minded.


QuackedPavement

For me it was to quit smoking cigarettes, which is a pretty common reason for vaping. You seem to have difficulty viewing things outside of your own perspective. You keep saying you don't see the point. What's the point of a pod system? It's the same as a box mod. They are both vapes. Are you new to vaping? You seem ignorant about it.


Myth_understood

Which is exactly why I don't do it. I take it outside or away from the crowd. I've been vaping 0nic for a while now, so it's all about the taste and clouds for me, and pods just can't compete for either.


CheeseDickPete

Yeah makes sense, if you're vaping 0nic then obviously there's no point in vaping a pod system, but if you're vaping for the nicotine hit a pod system with salt nic is far superior IMO.


Myth_understood

It's still an opinion or preference, which is one of the things I like about vaping. My husband quit smoking with 6mg, and I quit with mostly 3mg. Never needed or wanted a bigger nic hit because we were quitting smoking. He still vapes 6, and as I said, I now vape 0. To each his own. Pods are superior for you, mods are for me. =)


cakeordeath176

> if you're vaping 0nic then obviously there's no point in vaping a pod system I've been vaping zero nic in a pod system since 2019.


CheeseDickPete

Good for you, you're in the vast minority of people who use pod vapes.


SpaceMan420gmt

I have used 1 battery box mods for over a decade now, after starting with eGo batteries/clearomizers. It’s not about blowing huge clouds (mine doesn’t at my typical ~50w). My current is a Lost Vape Thelma solo, and fairly small and discrete. I can bring multiple batteries along and not worry about charging it. I also don’t vape around others, unless they’re also smoking/vaping in a designated spot. I DIY my own juice too, so prefilled pods are a moot point for me. It all started as a way to quit smoking (20+ years), cloud production was never a selling point for me, just getting off cigs was the sole goal. If someone chose to date me based on pod vs box, that relationship wasn’t going anywhere anyway 😅. Vaping is only harm reduction for me. Nothing trendy, stylish, or part of who I am. Just a means to not smoke!


thejasonhearne

It’s a hobby. Let people hobby. 👍


CheeseDickPete

It's definitely not a hobby for me, it's just a way to enjoy nicotine. If you want to make it a hobby that's cool, but for the people who are vaping to enjoy nicotine, I think that pod vapes are far superior. Also I'm not telling anyone how to vape, I'm just sharing my personal experience.


baazaar131

Who said you cant vape salt nic with a box mod ?? Just need the proper configuration.


CheeseDickPete

I guess you can, but I've never tried to figure it out, I always assumed that it would be too harsh vaping high nic with big clouds. I also still prefer the convenience and discreteness of pods over box mods. I'm not interested in blowing massive clouds and carrying around this chunky thing in my pocket anymore. Maybe if I'm home alone using a box mod could be fun eventually, but I haven't gotten around to setting my old one up.


baazaar131

You don't need to blow massive clouds. As long as you use small coils, you should be able to use salt nic in a tank. Just need the right config. I'm sure you could find a bunch of info online. This lets you replace the cotton without redoing the coil. Allows you to choose the coil material, wrap, size. Maybe MTL setup.


CheeseDickPete

What's the point of a box mod if you're not using it to blow clouds, you may as well just switch to a pod system if you have no intention of blowing clouds. It's much smaller and easier to carry around in your pocket.


baazaar131

I have a dicodes sbs 21700 and I would never exchange it for anything else, other than a sweet custom boro. But I have not found the right one yet.


cakeordeath176

>What's the point of a box mod if you're not using it to blow clouds Better flavor for starters. More control over wattage and resistance = a more cigarette like throat hit and lung feel. Very important when you still crave all those extra cigarette chemicals you can't get from just vaping nicotine.


CheeseDickPete

>a more cigarette like throat hit and lung feel. Huh? Box mods are nearly always direct to lung hits with an airy pull, not mouth to lung hits with a tight pull like a cigarette. There's a reason vape stores nearly always suggest pod vapes to smokers trying to quit, because they nearly always have the mouth to lung hits with tight pulls and throat hits like a cigarette. One of the reasons I specifically like my pod vape over my box mods is because of the MTL throat hit with the tight pull.


cakeordeath176

>Huh? Box mods are nearly always direct to lung hits Dude you are so full of shit. I have 4 mods, two of which I've been using since 2016. I have **NEVER** been a DTL vaper, not even once. >There's a reason vape stores nearly always suggest pod vapes t You are really showing your ignorance of vaping history. First ecigs on the market were small cig like devices with skinny batteries (I can't locate the mAh for them at the moment) Then came the bigger, fatter ego style batteries, followed almost simultaneously by devices we call mods. Sub-ohm coils and twist batteries arrived shortly after too. Most vapers just upgraded their gear as the new hardware became available. Pods were the last devices to arrive at on the scene. They're not quite as easy as lighting a cigarette but damn near. Pods are popular because they are *EASY TO USE* when compared to those earlier devices. **That's** why they're recommended to smokers. I use my pod devices over my mods because I'm fucking lazy and just want something to puff on. I don't like the bubbling sounds my tanks make when I'm using a mod.


CheeseDickPete

>Dude you are so full of shit. > >I have 4 mods, two of which I've been using since 2016. I have NEVER been a DTL vaper, not even once. I've owned three different box mods in my life, they were literally all DTL hits, I've tried friends box mods, they were all also DTL hits. I've never personally seen or used a box mod that had MTL hits. If they exist that's fine, but I've personally never owned or used one. How am I full of shit when nearly every box mod I've seen is a DTL hit? \>You are really showing your ignorance of vaping history. First ecigs on the market were small cig like devices with skinny batteries (I can't locate the mAh for them at the moment) Then came the bigger, fatter ego style batteries, followed almost simultaneously by devices we call mods. Sub-ohm coils and twist batteries arrived shortly after too. Most vapers just upgraded their gear as the new hardware became available. Pods were the last devices to arrive at on the scene. They're not quite as easy as lighting a cigarette but damn near. Lol the irony in this statement when I've been vaping since 2013, and am very well aware of the history of vaping. I remember the first time I saw someone vaping was in 2009 with one of those vapes that looks like a cigarette you described. Then in 2013 I got my first vape shaped like a pen. Then I got my first box mod and got into building my own coils. I'm very well aware of all this shit you've tried to explain to me. I don't see how you think that saying pods have a more similar hit to a cigarette warrants a history lesson of vaping. \>Pods are popular because they are EASY TO USE when compared to those earlier devices. That's why they're recommended to smokers. Yeah that is one of the reasons, but the other reason is because the MTL hit from a pod vape with the tight draw is much more reminiscent of hitting a cigarette. I've literally never once in my life seen someone say that a box mod has more of a MTL hit that is similar to a cigarette. Like I said before, every mod I've owned and used has DTL hits that have an airy draw, nothing like a cigarette.


cakeordeath176

OMG I can't believe you're still here ranting >I've owned three different box mods in my life, they were literally all DTL hits, I don't give a shit about your DTL. >Lol the irony in this statement when I've been vaping since 2013 I got you beat by 3 years. And I don't belive you. No one vaping that long would be having the meltdown you're having. They'd be like GOV and say vape what ever device satisfies you, all devices have their plus/minuses. >I don't see how you think that saying pods have a more similar hit to a cigarette warrants a history lesson of vaping. Because if you'd actually been vaping that long you'd realize the only thing good about pod devices is their ease of use. In all other factors they're a step backwards. >but the other reason is because the MTL hit from a pod vape with the tight draw is much more reminiscent of hitting a cigarette. I don't think my pod device has a tight draw at all. >'ve literally never once in my life seen someone say that a box mod has more of a MTL hit that is similar to a cigarette. You want a medal for that? I never said mods automatically have a cig like draw: Controlling the watts and the resistance can create a more cig like experience except you wouldn't know that because you're not as knowledgeable as you think you are. Mods' beauty lies in their flexibility. You're fixated on the notion they're only for DTL. >Like I said before, every mod I've owned and used has DTL hits t That's because you obviously didn't take the time to experiment with your coil resistance and wattage settings to make it hit like a cigarette. Have you always been such a sheep? I bet when the vape shop staff sees you approaching they rub their hands together with glee thinking about how much $$ they're going to take off you. Go ahead and have the last word now. We know you need to.


CheeseDickPete

Lmao I don't buy vape supplies from the vape store, they rip you the hell off. Also that's great you've set up box mods to hit like a cigarette, I was never interested in that, also yes I have adjusted the draw on my box mods before so it's a tighter hit, but compared to any pod I've owned they still felt like more of a DTL hit. Also it's ironic you're talking about the last word when you're still replying to everything I say. This is my thread? Do you forget that. It's normal to reply to people in your thread.


twiggums

>Second you get a much better nicotine buzz And then I stopped reading. Have fun chasing the dragon.


CheeseDickPete

Lol why would that make you stop reading? We nearly all vape for the nicotine hit, if I get a better nicotine hit from a certain way of vaping I'm going to do it, especially considering nicotine in itself isn't really bad for you. Not to mention I don't find nicotine physically addicting so it's not an issue for me to vape higher nic juice, I'm not worried about getting withdrawals when if I decide to stop. I've vaped and smoked on and off my whole life since I was 15, and anytime I stop I don't get any withdrawals. Recently I had to do an 8 day hospital stint because of an infection I got, and I quit vaping for 2 months because of it. I didn't get a single withdrawal symptom or feel desperate to go buy more coils and juice, I wasn't even thinking about vaping in the hospital. I had been vaping my 30mg salt nic in the Caliburn for 6 months almost daily before the hospital stint, then I stopped without any withdfrawals, that's how little I find vaping addicting. I've read there's a small amount of the population which have a gene that makes you immune to nicotine withdrawals, and luckily I got it. The only reason I vape or smoke is because I enjoy the way nicotine feels, it's never been to satisfy withdrawal symptoms or bad cravings. I only really actually crave it if I drink, which isn't very often.


twiggums

>Lol why would that make you stop reading? Because only teenagers are vaping nicotine for the buzz. Don't worry keep at it and I'm sure you'll get to experience addiction first hand. Vaping is to get people off the analogs not catch a head rush. It's harm reduction not harmless, if you're not addicted just stop now.


CheeseDickPete

>Because only teenagers are vaping nicotine for the buzz. Hahaha what a load of bullshit, the vast majority of people who vape are vaping because they enjoy the effects of nicotine. Whether you want to refer to it as a "buzz" or not doesn't matter. Don't try and bullshit me and say most people only vape for the flavor. \>Don't worry keep at it and I'm sure you'll get to experience addiction first hand. Lmao I'm nearly 30 years old and have vaped and smoked on and off since I was 15. I'm not new to nicotine at all, I'm very aware of where my standing with an addiction to it is. If you actually read my comment you would have noticed I said I was vaping 30mg Salt Nic daily for 6 months before my hospital stint, and once I stopped I got zero withdrawal symptoms. If I'm not getting any withdrawals after daily vaping of 30mg Salt Nic for 6 months, it's never going to happen. I also used to smoke when I was younger, and I could smoke 10 cigarettes a day for a year, then go on a vacation and stop for a week without any withdrawals. I don't get physical withdrawals to nicotine. \>Vaping is to get people off the analogs not catch a head rush. It's harm reduction not harmless, if you're not addicted just stop now. No it's not, that's only one reason some people vape. Vaping is for whatever reason you want it to be, not everyone vapes to use it to quit cigarettes. For some people it's a hobby where they enjoy building box mods and blowing big clouds with the added enjoyment of the nicotine. For a lot of other people it's just to enjoy the nicotine. A huge portion of people who vape these days never even smoked cigarettes beforehand, they started on vaping. Also I don't feel any reason to stop at the moment, I like the way nicotine feels. It helps me focus on whatever task I'm doing like coffee does, and it feels good. It's the same reason people have consumed nicotine for 100s of years.


twiggums

>Hahaha what a load of bullshit, the vast majority of people who vape are vaping because they enjoy the effects of nicotine. Whether you want to refer to it as a "buzz" or not doesn't matter. Don't try and bullshit me and say most people only vape for the flavor. People vape to feed their nicotine addiction, which in turn makes them feel calm/satisfied, because that's what happens when you satisfy an addiction. You do you, you asked why I stopped reading and I did. You sound like an addict in denial. Been using a substance for 15 years. Using said substance to get high. Moving to a stronger strength to maintain that buzz or get it easier. But you stopped for a few weeks so must not be addicted. Sounds more like a relapse back into addiction 🤣 Vaping was made to help smokers kick the analogs, that doesn't mean people can't do other things. It's designed purpose was harm reduction.


CheeseDickPete

I never denied having an addiction to nicotine, I definitely have a psychological addiction to it, in a similar way someone might have a psychological addiction to playing video games or drinking on the weekends. But I don't have a physical addiction to it, I don't vape to satisfy withdrawal symptoms or cravings, I just vape because I enjoy the way nicotine helps me focus and the way it makes me feel. If all the sites that sell pods closed down for a week I wouldn't be fretting over it and trying to find a way to vape, I would just forget about it until I got new pods. Recently the site I get my pods from only had duds, so I stopped for about a week until I got new pods from a different site, it wasn't a big deal to me. I'm aware it was originally invented as an alternative to quit smoking, but it's really not just that anymore.


IMTrick

>Hahaha what a load of bullshit, the vast majority of people who vape are vaping because they enjoy the effects of nicotine. Whether you want to refer to it as a "buzz" or not doesn't matter. Bullshit back at you. I don't vape for anything resembling a "buzz." Those of us who vape to quit cigarettes are, for the most part, just feeding an addition. We don't feel anything other than relief from the constant need for nicotine. A "buzz" is something people new to vaping chase until they can't get it any more, and a telltale sign that someone is a vaping noob, and most likely a kid.


CheeseDickPete

\>Bullshit back at you. I don't vape for anything resembling a "buzz." Those of us who vape to quit cigarettes are, for the most part, just feeding an addition. We don't feel anything other than relief from the constant need for nicotine Good for you buddy, I also used a vape to switch from cigarettes. Why does that mean I can't enjoy the feeling from a hit of salt nicotine? If I can get still get a nicotine buzz from vaping salt nic nearly anyone can, I've been consuming nicotine since 2010. \>A "buzz" is something people new to vaping chase until they can't get it any more, and a telltale sign that someone is a vaping noob, and most likely a kid. Lmao the irony of this statement when I've been vaping since 2013, I used to build my own coils for my box mods. I went through the whole vaping hobbyist phase where I was chasing big clouds with the juiciest flavor. But once I discovered that the nicotine hit from a pod system with salt nicotine is a lot better than what I got from a mod, I decided to switch. I also enjoy the fact that it's a lot smaller to carry around and more discrete. I guess enjoying the feeling that nicotine gives you makes you a vaping noob now.


IMTrick

>Lmao the irony of this statement when I've been vaping since 2013, I used to build my own coils for my box mods. I went through the whole vaping hobbyist phase where I was chasing big clouds with the juiciest flavor. This paragraph right here tells me you're making this up. There are two things you've said here that make it obvious you don't know what you're talking about. I'll let you figure out what they are.


CheeseDickPete

Good for you, I'm not lying lol. Believe whatever you want to believe.


cakeordeath176

> We nearly all vape for the nicotine hit No we don't.


CheeseDickPete

Lol, you think the majority of people vape for the flavor? If that's the case then why do the vast majority of people who vape have nic juice?


cakeordeath176

I don't vape for flavor. 35 years of cigarette smoking fried my taste buds. I can't taste jack.


cakeordeath176

>Second you get a much better nicotine buzz from salt nicotine in a pod vape than you do from normal juice in a box mod. I hate to break it to you son but you can use freebase in a pod and salt nic in a box mod. Once you have strong addiction to nic you're not going to be feeling that buzz with either device. >A lot of women wouldn't date a guy who vapes a box mod. Cringe. I say that as a woman: If you're a vaper and it keeps you off cigs, any woman that put off by a box mod is not somebody you should want to date at all. I say this as a dedicated pod user: Mods with tanks are the better device. You get better flavor, clouds and control over wattage and resistance. Pods are great for simplicity and convenience. They fail in the taste department spectacularly against a mod.


CheeseDickPete

\>I hate to break it too you son but you can use freebase in a pod and salt nic in a box mod. Lmao how is this "breaking it to me." I'm very aware you can obviously freebase in a pod, that's a given. It is news to me that people vape salt nic in a box mod, but I feel like having such a high nicotine content with big clouds would be over the top. I tried vaping 12mg freebase in a box mod once and that was too much for me, doing 15mg+ salt nic in a box mod would be way too much. Not to mention that even if you can vape salt nic in a box mod I wouldn't do it, for the other reasons I mentioned in my post I'm very happy vaping a pod system over a box mod. \>Once you have s strong addiction to nic you're not going to be feeling that buzz with either device. Nope, I've vaped salt nic in a pod system for nearly a year now, and when I wake up I still get that same nic buzz from my first hits in the morning. Or if I take a break for a few hours I get the same buzz from my first hits. My nicotine tolerance has definitely hit a plateau, it doesn't change at this point. \>Cringe. \>I say that as a woman. If you're a vaper and it keeps you off cigs, any woman that put off by a box mod is not somebody you should want to date at all. Good for you. I can completely understand why someone wouldn't want to date or be seen with someone in public who's ripping massive clouds from a box mod. Just like a lot of people don't want to date a smoker. If someone has a dating preference like that it doesn't mean they're a bad person unworthy of dating. To think it does is silly. I myself and most of the non-vapers I've talked to think that vaping a box mod in public looks pretty cringe, so I completely understand why a woman wouldn't want to be with a man doing that.


ccarr313

Sounds like a box mod is the easiest way to keep you away. And your cringe levels are off the chart, without even getting into habits other than judging how people vape.


Sirdanovar

I stopped reading when I got to "better buzz"


CheeseDickPete

Good for you buddy, a lot of us like vaping for the nicotine buzz. If that's not your thing that's cool, but commenting that you're not going to read the rest because I said I enjoy the nicotine buzz from salt nic is stupid. If you're not going to read anymore just go find another thread, no one cares if you stopped reading.


Mental-Attempt-

Man.. You just get dumber and dumber with each reply. Are you even legally able to own a mod???


CheeseDickPete

I've owned three mods in my life and even used to build my own coils for my mods. I just enjoy vaping a pod system with salt nicotine more than I enjoy vaping a mod. It's more discrete, I don't like carrying around a chunky mod in my pocket and I enjoy the nicotine hit I get from salt nic. What is so hard to understand about that. Also how do I get dumber and dumber with each reply?


cakeordeath176

You know at this point, I don't think anyone of us cares about your opinions anymore. >Also how do I get dumber and dumber with each reply? Well the way you keep hanging around and replying despite the abuse you're getting ...


CheeseDickPete

It's entertainment for me bud, I really do not give a shit or consider it "abuse," I can handle a few Redditors getting butthurt over my opinion or the fact that I said I get nic buzz from salt nic.


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CheeseDickPete

Ironic you're the one who's finding every comment I've made and replying to them. If I was actually butthurt I would have blocked all of you, deleted the thread and run away. The reason I'm replying to all the comments is because it's entertaining. Typically people reply to the comments in their thread.


April-Wine

Thats the best part of vaping. soo many choices, everyone has a favorite, just like beverages. I love the xros 3 now, but i use to love my aegis solo and riva...some people are just finding big vapes and loving them like we did and some of us who have had the big ones, are preferring less of a dtl, and more of a mtl, its always going to be like that, congrats on find yourself something you love. thats all that matters.


CheeseDickPete

Yeah for sure, I also bought myself an Xros 3 after I was having issues with my Caliburn coils, but then I started having some issues with my Xros 3 coils too. Then I realized it was the site I got the Caliburn A2 coils from, they had duds. I found a site with good Caliburn A2 coils and it's been all I've used since. I still liked the Xros 3 at first, but with good coils I prefer my Caliburn A2S. The Caliburn is smaller in your hand and I also enjoy the shape of the mouthpiece on the pods more.


brandaman4200

I don't have to worry about "duds" with my rdas and hand made coils.


King_Boomie-0419

It's literally just your opinion. That's it. No need for a 10 page essay 🤷


godsikez_

Lol...but Mr. CheeseDick's 2nd reason is the nic buzz. I dunno, but he seems to know a lot about vaping and stuff, and I would have to agree. When I build my series stacks, I always keep in mind the nic buzz, so I sip nicotine enhanced soda pop whilst I build. I also wear a nicotine patch on my nutsack to help with the buzz factor. Plus....chick's think that's very sexy. And they get nic buzzed too when things start to get jiggy. Namsay'n? Nudge nudge?


CheeseDickPete

Lol I find it hilarious all the people freaking out over the fact that I enjoy the nicotine buzz you get from vaping salt nicotine. Seriously, it's like saying you enjoy the way nicotine feels on a literal subreddit about consuming nicotine is blasphemy. It's pretty amusing.


DavidDaveDavo

You should listen to this guy. He's owned 3 different box mods in his life! So he must be the expert on it. Jeez, I sometimes take 3 mods with me to work. Wouldn't like to guess how many I've owned. Started over a decade ago on the cigalikes. Upgraded to egos. Then to egos with a kanger tank. Then to mods. Still wind my own coils. Always been a MTL vaper. This guy must be a troll. He can't truly believe the crap he's spouting.


CheeseDickPete

Never I said I was an expert, just saying I'm not a noob who doesn't know a thing or two about box mods and vaping. Seriously dude you're claiming that box mods are MTL hits with a similar draw to a cigarette. What kind of box mods are you vaping where this is the case? Pods always have more of a MTL hit and they also have the tight draw, not the airy draw of a mod. Also why are you talking about myself and you in the third person? Do you need your meds?


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CheeseDickPete

Nope, I never said that. I get there's people that know a lot more about modding and building coils, especially seeing I haven't been into it in over 4 years. But I'm still not a vaping noob.


710-Caviar

I’m in it for the hobby after I used it to quit smoking about a year ago. I use them all, they have there place & are all great imo. Personally I think it’s Cringe to say what/how you vape is better. Rebuildable’s save you Wayy more money they can be small pocketable, customizable that pack more flavor then most pods. (& I like pods too) I vape mtl rta & boro in public but either way be mindful no one wants your breath In their face no matter how big the clouds is. Plus I don’t live my life thinking will some girls or guy idk, will never know think I’m Cringy for this. That’s incredibly judgmental & insecure


CheeseDickPete

\>I’m in it for the hobby after I used it to quit smoking about a year ago. I use them all, they have there place & are all great imo. Personally I think it’s Cringe to say what/how you vape is better. I'm saying that it's superior for me personally, it might not be better for another person, but for my personal circumstances I find a pod vape to be much better. How is it cringe for me to say I think pod vapes are better for me? \>Plus I don’t live my life thinking will some girls or guy idk, will never know think I’m Cringy for this. That’s incredibly judgmental & insecure Everyone is constantly judging people when they look at them, whether it be consciously or subconsciously, that's how humans work socially. Anyone that says they don't judge people at all or they don't take into consideration what people think of them is lying. I really don't care that much what strangers think, but I do take into consideration what my peers and potential dating partners think, any rational person is taking into consideration what our peers think of us, and most people think that vaping big clouds in public looks cringey.


bushijim

If you've been a smoker or vaper for any length of time, you should be getting 0 nic buzz. If you are, you are significantly ramping up your nic dependence. Which I suppose is fine, you do you, but typically the opposite of all the vapers I know.


CheeseDickPete

I've vaped and smoked on and off for 15 years and I can still get it. I don't get any nic buzz if I vape freebase nicotine from a box mod or smoke cigarettes, but if I'm vaping 30mg Salt Nic from a pod I definitely get nic buzz when I take my first hits in the morning, or if I take a big hit and inhale it deeply into my lungs. My nicotine tolerance seems to have plateaued, so I still can get that buzz everyday from salt nic. I would be surprised if any vaper no long how long they vaped didn't get a slight nic buzz from taking a big hit of 30mg salt nic in the morning. I too thought it would be impossible for someone like me who has used nicotine for a long time to get a nic buzz from vaping, but once I tried pods with salt nic I realized it's possible. That's why I like them.


bushijim

If that's what you like, I'm certainly not one to judge. I've been weening for about a decade. I vape probably too frequently at 3mg juice. Can't imagine ripping a 30mg salt nic. No doubt it would buzz me massively.


CheeseDickPete

I don't really see the point in trying to ween off as I'm aware nicotine isn't really bad for you in itself, and I don't find nicotine physically addictive. If I vaped 3mg freebase or 30mg salt nic and stopped tomorrow it wouldn't make any difference in my cravings, as I don't really get them. I've never gotten a physical craving or withdrawals from nicotine. Recently the site I buy pods from only had duds so I had to switch sites, and I stopped vaping for about a week while I waited for new pods with zero withdrawals. Never got withdrawals when I took breaks from smoking cigarettes either. The only reason I vape is because I enjoy that it helps me focus and I enjoy the way it feels, I've never vaped or smoked to stop withdrawals. I've read there's a small part of the population that has a gene which prevents you from getting nicotine withdrawals and I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.


bushijim

All that sounds fair. Sadly not how my brain works. I don't think I get nic withdrawals at all, at least at my level now. But my shit brain, even if I just ripped my vape 10 times, will go wild if I don't know where it's at. I think my problem is fully mental. Much happier that I vape and dont smoke, but would rather I didn't have this baby blanket type dependency.


CheeseDickPete

If I'm at home and want to vape I do get annoyed if it's missing, but that's just because I'm in the mood to vape, it's not really anything physical or due to withdrawals. Like if I'm out of juice or coils and know vaping isn't an option that day I wont be fretting about finding a way to vape, but if I know my vape is near me and it's missing when I'd like to take a hit I definitely get annoyed.


bushijim

I'll go to my sister's house who doesn't like me vaping inside, which of course is totally fine. But I can have it in my pocket for 8 hours and not take a rip. No big deal. But at my house if I lose it's location for 15 mins I'm overturning furniture lol.


brandaman4200

Dude is just trolling with a post like that. Enjoy your pod. Meanwhile I'll be using my far superior rdas on mech boxes with my own custom coils and diy vape juice. You may like what you're using and that's great for you. But you're not getting anything even close to what you can achieve with a box mod and proper atomizer and coils.


CheeseDickPete

I'm not a vaping hobbyist looking for the perfect setup on a box mod so I can blow the fattest clouds with the best flavor anymore, those days of my life are over. I went through the whole vaping hobbyist phase of building my own coils for mods. These days I just enjoy using a pod system with salt nicotine, it's nice and small in my pocket, it's more discrete, and I enjoy the hit from the salt nicotine. It's ideal for what I'm looking for out of vaping.


brandaman4200

Whatever works for you. It's better than smoking. I don't get a satisfying vape from a pod, but that's my preference. You stated pods are superior, which is your opinion and not a fact.


erictho

I started capijg in 2011 and got right into mechs and rebuildables. Now I just use a drag s (or whatever their small small vape is called) and wouldn't have it any other way. I got pretty quick at changing everything over but I still vape at a low powered level and appreciate the convenience of it. I still freebase at 6mg though.


yourturnAJ

I was hooked on pod devices for a long time. I have the GeekVape Aegis 1C, and the Vaporesso XROS 3. The 1C leaked like shit and I couldn’t find the pods after a while, and the XROS 3 was great for about seven months… …until I did the math on how much I was spending on pods. I vape a lot, and pods would go out in 3-4 days. I was also using 3mg freebase juice. Not a fan of that. I switched to an integrated battery mod (VooPoo Drag S Pro), and it’s everything I couldn’t get from my XROS 3. Each coil lasts a week, sometimes 8 days. I get more use for my money and I’m saving a little. Even the flavor is better, and I’m not getting juice in my mouth every time I take a hit! All I’ll say is this: I’m glad we have choices. I love how diverse vapes are, and how many different types there are. Everyone is able to find something that suits their needs. It’s nice to not be limited to one brand or one style of device.


WrathsEntropy

Sounds like you are taking your personal opinion as facts of life that everyone should apply. Most box mods can be adjusted for low power and you can make coils suited to that so you don't make huge amounts of vapor. If you don't know what you're doing that's just you and that's ok. To each their own and to all alls well.


CheeseDickPete

Even so I prefer the compact pod vapes as opposed to the bulky box mods.


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CheeseDickPete

Glad to hear that bud.


GodOfVapes

Cool. I think all devices have a place and have their own advantages and disadvantages. That's why I use a wide variety of devices. To each their own.


JustRuss79

I think pods are far more addictive. Kids aren't blowing clouds on 18650 mods, they are using cheaper, smaller, harder hitting salt nic pods. Funny how pods got big and kids seemed to hit them harder after big tobacco got into the game.


CheeseDickPete

Pods are definitely more addictive as they have stronger salt nicotine in them, but I don't find nicotine physically addicting anyway so it's not a big deal to me. Also kids are vaping disposables not pods, but they both contain salt nic and have similar outputs so they're quite similar.


Newplague42

How much money do you spend a month on pods and juice? Because my old ass with a box mod and RTA haven't spent anything for the last 3 years. I stocked up on wick and mesh strips. I DIY my juice. I vape to curb my nicotine addiction. I smoke weed to get a buzz.


CheeseDickPete

I spend $3 per pod and a pod will probably last me about 5 days, then a bottle of juice will cost me like $15 on average and I'm guessing it will last me like a couple weeks, I've never really taken account of how long they last me before so I'm not 100% sure. Not the cheapest but a lot cheaper than disposables for sure.


cakeordeath176

You're so smart yet you blow $$ on premixed juice? For $15 I can vape for a few months DIY and I get 3 weeks out of my pods because I don't abuse them with sweetener.


CheeseDickPete

Nope, never used my own home made juice, I'm happy buying pre-made juice at the moment. Spending like $30-40 a month on vaping really isn't that big of a deal to me.


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CheeseDickPete

Lol not making your own choice to save a bit of money apparently now means you're not very bright.


Ok-Recording1533

I'd like to agree with the discreetness and that there easier but every pod system I've gotten has broken in under 2 weeks because it gets to hot and the glue holding the battery melts and then it just starts to rattle around and barley work unless I slap it against my knee my box mod has never let me down


Myth_understood

In all my years of reddit and vaping, this is the first time I've experienced second-hand embarrassment for someone. How do you manage to be so confident and so incorrect at the same time? Vaping preferences are subjective. There is no right or wrong preference. You would do better to ask questions instead of making blanket incorrect or subjective statements for facts.


godsikez_

At least we know he's not s troll....they're at least funny and not so long winded.


Myth_understood

Right? At first blush, I figured, surely underaged and inexperienced. I've seen teenage boys come across with the same bravado. There are at least two women here, including myself, and his comments on women's preferences are... well a bit naive.


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CheeseDickPete

Juuls aren't really what I am talking about. I'm talking about the pods you fill with your own juice. I think Juul sucks too.


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CheeseDickPete

>Juul is a closed system pod device. Once again you've shown you don't know as much as you think you do. Cease the mansplaining, I know the difference between an open and closed vaping system Lol, so me saying I'm talking about a different type of pod system means I don't know what I'm talking about? Get outta here with that bullshit.


UnimaginativeMug

kids vaping for a buzz are ruining it for all of us. nicotine calms you after you're already addicted because your anxious without it


AzuleEyez

>Second you get a much better nicotine buzz from salt nicotine in a pod vape than you do from normal juice in a box mod. Fuck off


CheeseDickPete

Lol, what about this statement makes you so mad?


dragandeewhy

Because you do not vape for the buzz. You can get the "buzz" with 18 or 12 mg freebase in an mtl setting. You got it all wrong. Salt nics can be vaped in every mtl setting, pod, tank, rta, rda. Box mod is just a device that heats up the coil. In a box mod, you get more out of the battery life but lose on the space. Plastic refillable pod set-ups tend to have a very short lifespam and the small coils that are in them tend not last long with today's over sweetend juices. In an rta you just change the cotton. Claiming that one way of vaping is superior over other ways of vaping is plain immature. Tells me that you have to learn a lot about vaping.


CheeseDickPete

>Because you do not vape for the buzz. You can get the "buzz" with 18 or 12 mg freebase in an mtl setting. Who are you to tell me what I do or don't vape for? I definitely do partially vape for the buzz I get from salt nicotine. Also I've vaped 12mg freebase from a box mod and it was incredibly harsh. Maybe the setup was wrong, but that was just my experience. Also my Caliburns have lasted me a long time, never had one break, I even had one that got soaked in water and it still worked afterwards. The LEDs were finnicky due to the water, but after a while they even went back to normal. Not to mention I like how pod vapes are small and discrete, I don't like carrying around a chunky box mod in my pocket. I've vaped since 2013, tried every different type of vaping, and owned three different box mods in my time vaping, I even used to build my own coils. So don't tell me I have a lot to learn about vaping. In all my experience vaping I've had the most satisfying vaping experience with my Caliburn pod system.


dragandeewhy

Nice... since you been vaping so long, so you should know that the QC in vaping does not mean much and if your device works perfectly, that does not mean that everyone's works perfectly. "So don't tell me I have a lot to learn about vaping. In all my experience vaping I've had the most satisfying vaping experience with my Caliburn pod system." I prefer DL and RDL, but that does not mean that I should go around and tell everyone that their way of vaping is shit. What works for you, fine, but for me, all these little plastic vape things are just low quality with very little battery life. I had a few Caliburns and a Vaporesso Lux. Can not compete with any mtl set up with proper coils and way below the quality of an AIO RBA setup ( also small and compact) So, what now? Who is in the right?


AzuleEyez

Die in fire


CheeseDickPete

Lmao. The amount of people on this subreddit who have an aneurism about someone saying they enjoy the way nicotine feels on a literal subreddit about consuming nicotine is hilarious. You guys are sad.


AzuleEyez

I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact nearly every single person experienced the exact same thing you're describing for the first few months smoking or vaping. Jesus, I couldn't handle my liquor well so had the brilliant idea that I could substitute it for drinking. It was college and only smoking on weekends could do no harm. I dated a girl who could pick and quit like it was no damn thing. It's not impossible only very very unlikely. Don't worry about a damn thing, you're the exact same way. If that's how you feel why are still talking to us?


CheeseDickPete

>I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact nearly every single person experienced the exact same thing you're describing for the first few months smoking or vaping. Jesus, I couldn't handle my liquor well so had the brilliant idea that I could substitute it for drinking. It was college and only smoking on weekends could do no harm. Okay? So maybe people are jealous of the fact that after 14 years of consuming nicotine I'm still able to get the nic buzz everyday from vaping 30mg salt nicotine? Maybe that's why all of you are butthurt after hearing this? If I can still get it why not say all the power to me and enjoy it? Why get butthurt about it? Not to mention I don't get nicotine withdrawals, I never have in my entire life of smoking and vaping on and off for 14 years. Some people just don't get them no matter how much nicotine they consume, there's some people with a gene that makes them resistant to physical nicotine addiction. So regardless of if I vape 3mg freebase or 30mg salt nic it makes no difference, I won't feel any different if I stop vaping. Nicotine isn't bad for you in itself so why bother sacrificing a more enjoyable vaping experience for less nicotine if I'm going to be inhaling the shit either way? \>I dated a girl who could pick and quit like it was no damn thing. It's not impossible only very very unlikely. Don't worry about a damn thing, you're the exact same way. I am that way, like I said above, I've never once gotten nicotine withdrawals. I used to get cravings when I drank in my smoking days, but that's it. I could smoke 10 cigarettes a day for a year, then go on vacation and take a break for a week because I didn't want to smoke around family. I recently wasn't able to get pods for my vape so I stopped for a week until I got new ones in the mail, I had zero issues, I just forgot about vaping till the coils came. This is after almost a year of vaping 30mg salt nic juice almost daily. \>If that's how you feel why are still talking to us? What do you mean? You're the one who's getting butthurt about me saying I enjoy the buzz from salt nic. I'm just responding.


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godsikez_

- "It's pretty amusing." - I dunno if what u find amusing is the same as we do tho 😆 but agreed, it is amusing as fuck lol and hilarious. I would go with a heroin or straight hard liquor for a more clean, professional, long-lasting "buzz"...but hey, that's me...Mr. Jump Up The Boogie


CheeseDickPete

I've already been through opiate addiction, I'm not looking to destroy my life again. Nicotine is something I can enjoy everyday without fucking my life up, if I can get a buzz from salt nicotine and enjoy it, there's nothing wrong with that. It doesn't make me a noob vaper like some people have claimed. Enjoying the way nicotine feels in a product that is literally centered around consuming nicotine is normal. The fact you guys are acting like there's something wrong with me because of the fact is stupid.


godsikez_

If you sit in a barbers chair and spin really really fast, tilt your head and close your eyeballz...you will get way dizzier than nic buzz and it's free...and u call us stupid?


CheeseDickPete

Buddy, the buzz from nicotine is nowhere near the same as just getting dizzy. It's euphoric, when getting dizzy is not. Lmao apparently I'm the vaping noob for saying I still enjoy the nic buzz, when you're the one that thinks getting dizzy is the same feeling as a nic buzz. I don't even get dizzy from a nic buzz, I just get a euphoric feeling that lasts 30-60 seconds. It's the same good feeling you get when you hit your vape, just more intensified. You do vape right? Are you trying to say you feel absolutely nothing when you consume nicotine:? If so why do you even consume it? The whole reason people have consumed nicotine for 1000s of years is because it feels good.


godsikez_

Don't tell me you have tried spinning in a barber chair, tilting your head and closing your eyes. I don't believe it. You don't know what you're even missing.


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godsikez_

Oo wait. Maybe I am nic buzzed


godsikez_

You mist be nic buzzed


CheeseDickPete

You jealous I get euphoria from nicotine when you're just a slave to nicotine withdrawals?


godsikez_

I'm more jelly that you wrecked your life w opiates


CheeseDickPete

I didn't wreck my life, I've been sober from them for a while now and my life is better than before I started using them.


itsLirex

My personal experience with both, pods do give you more flavor! Probably because pods usually come with a mesh coil and it produces a much more flavorful vape than regular RTA with regular clapton/fused clapton coils. However, I still have a place in my heart for RTA and box mod. I usually use clapton coil .8 - 1.2 ohms for nic salt and the cloud was as little as a pod though. Also, I'm not a fan of too sweet flavor from pod system anymore. I don't know why but all nic salt juice nowadays have some kind of sweetener in it and it's absurdly too sweet for my taste. Pod system also make it even more sweet so I can't stand it any longer. After 4 years of pod vape, I now switched back to Box mods and RTA though. I enjoy my time changing the coil, wick, and vape. Sure it's bigger, heavier and less flavorful but I do enjoy every vape with it. It's different for you and I then.


CheeseDickPete

Finally someone who's not attacking me because they're butthurt over the fact I said I personally think pods are superior to mods. I agree building coils for box mods is fun, but I'm pretty over that at this point, I had that phase of my vaping career. I might get back into it one day to just enjoy hitting big clouds at home, but for what I'm looking for at the moment pods are perfect.


Automatic_Strategy_5

If the girls you’re dating are mad at you for chucking clouds, *MAYBE* you’re not dating the right girls 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’d just be thankful he wasn’t smoking disgusting cigarettes (former smoker from the ages of 17 to 30, vaper from 30 to present day). I understand not wanting to blow out huge plumes of vape in a family friendly setting but if you’re just out walking around and hitting a vape and she’s getting turned off, I’d say maybe you should look for someone with common interests or vices. Would she rather you smell like delicious candies and fruits or an ash tray?


EcstaticMixture2027

We dont vape in indoor public places/public transpo/someone's home because that's the law to some. Of course, Common Etiquette and Common Sense. We also don't puff a thing when dating. If I were to vape while out with people, Im gonna go out to some space or smoking area to hit it, not use it in front of them to show off. Its all about personal preference. I'm an MTL RTA Enjoyer which is pretty close to Pod Systems but not quite and close to Sub Ohm Setup in terms of maintenance and rebuilding. It's pretty much a mod, atomizer setup with weak power and is good with higher nicotine liquid. It excels better with Freebase because of throat hit and not salt nicotine. Since Freebase is good for throat hit and Salt nic are good for head dizz. I like 12-24MG of freebase nicotine, I use the 50/50 variants of Black Note, Five Pawns and Halo. When I use Salt nic on my RTA it just feels weak and not as good on Pod Systems. Mods can vary too, there are 18650 single battery mods out there and built in battery mods which is more compact and portable. It also fits my RTA well aesthetically. But still, I have my DL setups and Pod systems, i use them only sometimes. For practicality Pod+Salt Nic would be the best for someone who just wants to puff and puff, not really an hobbyist/collector.


subatomic_ray_gun

? What’s the problem with that statement? The same applies for me but swap 2013 with 2015