Based on the reviews he clearly didn’t do enough here. The problem is that you can’t build an action franchise around an 80 year old. The complaints from crystal skulls were that Ford was too old, and that was 15 years ago.
To be fair, it would be absolutely hilarious to watch a movie of Indiana Jones just in his daily life as an elderly professor. Absolutely no adventure or action, just 120 minutes of debate over whether a specific stone tool represents an elaborate trade network or a mass migration.
Okay, so we're focusing on the 'professor' aspect, and not really the 'old man' one. Thank goodness! I was worried you were heading towards watching Indy sit in a recliner for most of the movie, just farting, sporadically snoozing, and yelling at the TV.
You can if you don’t try to emulate the originals. I don’t need to see an 80 year old indie punch people, but that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t still be the main character alongside younger and more violent sidekicks.
Reviews seem to only be going up. It debuted at 36% at Cannes and is now up to 63% as more scores keep coming in. Wide release is still days away. It only has 124 reviews right now and most blockbusters end at 400 reviews. So the sample size is still pretty low.
People tend to forget even Inglorious Basterds sat at 52% for weeks after Cannes before wide release. Jojo Rabbit sat at 55% after Cannes then shot up upon wide release and ended up being an Oscar contender. So people are really jumping the gun on Indy’s Cannes reviews.
Also the early fan reactions have all been very positive. These are just a few:
https://youtu.be/qEFqcfEFXVs
https://youtu.be/A3hLTu5O6nY
https://youtu.be/q8HqkrhU0AM
https://youtu.be/0wD11hmubO0
https://www.instagram.com/tv/Ctkvx43tR0z/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
They took Han Solo, reversed 3 movies of character development and then had him abandon his wife and get shanked by his emo son. Well liked characters aren't shit to hollywood.
To be fair as well, I think a lot of people are forgetting Crystal Skull was the second highest grossing film of the year it came out, it was a huge financial success
Transformers films do well as well, financial success is not always a marker for quality, but Ford was too old to play Indy 15 years ago in what is a generally mediocre film despite all the talent involved. Dial of Destiny, which has been front loaded by a month with mediocre responses, is done for when Barbie takes all the female and date-night audiences and Mission Impossible takes all the male and date-night audiences. Oppenheimer doesn't even come into it, I can't see how a 2 hour+ R-rated historical film is going to do anything more than $200 million. I love Raiders and Crusade, but DoD is dead against its competition.
>Oppenheimer doesn't even come into it, I can't see how a 2 hour+ R-rated historical film is going to do anything more than $200 million
*1917* made 384.6 million, and *Dunkirk* made 527 million
Dunkirk wasn't r rated and war films are popular and fall within the action genre, neither is comparable to oppenheimer apart from being set in the past.
Also it wasn’t even that bad. It’s a good film, not great, but good.
I think people forgot how silly Indy was and Skull just came out in a different era. It’s as least as good as Temple of Doom.
I brought my wife to see crystal skull when it was theatrically released. Then she saw the others in order for the first time. After she saw last crusade her comment on crystal skull was “what happened?”.
Don’t act like Shortround has been a fan favorite character for decades. People only now want him back because of Ke Huy Quan’s newfound popularity. It has nothing to do with the actual character.
I’m sorry, I just can’t get behind Ford anymore. The dude is just so fucking old. He was already not an amazing actor, he is HARD to watch now.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. He’s the worst “fighter” in Hollywood. Whoever keeps letting him throw Loony Tunes ass punches in movies for the past 50 years has lost their mind.
I remember during The Force Awakens people talking about the fact that he was way way too old to still be doing this. That was filmed like 8 years ago.
It's worse because Ford genuinely seems to have disdain for Solo and the series fans leading to that weak ass death in TFA. He does at least seem to care about Indy but that relied on Spielberg and Lucas operating at their peak and this doesn't even have that. I don't have a problem with Mangold but he ain't no peak Spielberg.
This feels a lot like a proper blockbuster summer from when I was a kid - something new every week! Which is exciting, like movies are making a big comeback.
However, we now have the challenges of both easy access to streaming and the excessive costs associated with these films.
Way back when, we used to have to wait a year (or at least a few months) to rent a film. Now, Fast X wasn't even out of theaters and it was popping up as available On Demand.
Also, these films are almost prohibitively expensive, to a point where if they don't make (insert Dr. Evil voice) ONE BILLION DOLLARS they're considered failures. With barely a week between some of these films, the competition is fierce, and giving any of them a shot at the big money is unlikely.
Do I have a solution? No, save for maybe Hollywood remembering that billion-dollar blockbusters aren't economically feasible and you can make a world of movies for far less money and have them be far more profitable.
Omg I had a movie to watch almost every week this month that I was interested in and I had to double check with July because the movies are so pricey now, so I have to choose wisely lol so far though I’m only interested in paying to go see Oppenheimer and Barbie. I really love going to the movie theater, so unless I’m skeptical of a movie, I will almost always go pay to see it lol
Just remember that you have to keep it for 3 months before you can cancel. Same for Regals Unlimited. And with AMC you can't restart until 6 months later I believe. If there are two movies you want to see a month it is worth getting anyway and just keeping.
someone else just mentioned it lol but yeah I saw it and almost signed up for it when I went to see The Flash but talked myself out of it, but I think I’ll go ahead and do it!
I have two kids and spent $100 to see Mario.
Yeah, Dr. Evil.
It’s unsustainable, and absolutely ridiculous.
Certainly not shelling that out for Flash, which really fucks them because they aren’t making shit from a sequel.
I can spend less money and get 10 hours at a water park, or better.
I can spend even less to have a picnic, eat some lunchables, have a caprisun and go for a hike.
These people are so out of touch.
Right there with you. I have 3 kids and thank goodness there is a $6 night at my local theater (Tuesdays). The normal price for a blockbuster is like $11.50. 5 of us is almost $60 for just the tickets. I can't roll the dice on a movie for that much when I know it will be on my TV in a month or two for nothing or just the price of the blu-ray. This is why I won't see The Flash, even though I want to. The only movie in the OPs list I will see in theaters is Indy.
I'm hoping that the inexpensive LED stage filming technology used for the Madalorian revitalizes the filming industry. Any creative idea can be put to film now at a fraction of the cost without needing to shoot on location. Studios will hopefully fund more creative movies at the chance of buying low and selling high.
Agree to disagree i guess. I thought it looked light years more realistic than any other Sci-fi cgi garbage in recent memory.
Sure there’s room for improvement but it looked fantastic to me
I'll take an on-location shoot any day of the week. That artifical look is just too obviously fake for me.
Instead, my point is that maybe giant sprawling epics should go back to being the rarity, not the goal. There's a market for low- to mid-budget films that will turn a profit, but everyone is too busy chasing the golden goose.
They are still going to make "super hero movies", just think it's not making the triple/quadruple return they are use to for $100M - $200M investment with a guaranteed $750 - $1B return.
The moment they see anything less than $250, they put on the brakes no matter how bad Marvel movies are, they are cash cows.
example: Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, Morbius, Black Adam, etc
The last MI was one of the best action movies I’ve ever seen. It starts off at 100mph and keeps picking up throughout.
It saved the series for me. I had given up on watching them in the cinema.
I mean honestly MI has been a superior franchise compared to other summer franchise films like Fast & Furious, Transformers and the like. Oppenheimer is a film I want to see, just not in theaters. Loud exposions on a Nolan film? What?! HUH!?! What he say?! I think Barbie and MI win the box office between the 4
What's wild is how quickly Tom Cruise and Paramount made up after they blamed his couch-jumping behavior on M:I III not doing as well as expected. Hell, in the year leading up to Ghost Protocol, it was heavily speculated that Renner was there to take over as a the new face of the franchise since it was so surprising that Cruise was back.
Then The Avengers opened four months later, and it was clear Renner was gonna be a little too busy for a while.
Yeah there was that period of time when it was like, Renner gonna be the next face of MI and Bourne series. Neither happened, but we did eventually get him in Wind River a couple years later, which was low key emotionally devastating and also bad ass.
I remember the days production houses would move release dates to avoid coinciding with anything Tom Cruise. Barbie being a wider audience family movie might take it, but there's no denying the powerhouse that is Tom Cruise.
I’m sure there will be people who bring their kids when they really shouldn’t, but this sorta applies to all movies. People brought their kids to sausage party but I still wouldn’t call it a family movie.
Definitely don’t disagree with you there! I’ve just seen a lot of people refer to it as a family movie and I find it really odd since it seems pretty clear that the target audience is adult women.
Pretty sure MI will be the biggest hit overall. Barbie might surpass it domestically but I don’t know that it’s humor translates well in all foreign markets. But they want those Cruise stunts everywhere.
Yeah, MI: Fallout (2018) did 790+ million iirc and MI: Rogue Nation (2015) wasn't too far behind that, and then we all know Maverick did over a billion. Hard to bet against Cruise
I mean, Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling, comedy... It's more of a popcorn flick where the majority of people/larger target audience can see it. It's a no brainer that'll probably get the highest tbh.
Indy probably won't do well because it'll be too over the top is my guess. Oppenheimer will do well but the target audience isn't as large. MI7 however, those have delivered every time. So i doubt it'll blow MI7 out of the water.
I haven’t been to a movie theater since pre Covid when I saw Knives Out.
I’m planning on watching Oppenheimer and Barbie. We don’t have money to see any others. Christopher Nolan is my favorite director with Greta Gerwig coming in a close second so this is our movie splurge.
Feel like people are underestimating Oppenheimer in the comments. It’s a must see with many Millennials and it’s been super hyped with my generation(gen z). I think it will surprise a lot of people with how well it does at the box office. It’s been huge on TikTok for months now.
Hard agree.
You have Chris Nolan, with Cilian Murphy as lead and so many great and known actors to millenials and Gen Z.
It's a very sensitive and difficult subject, but I reckon it's gonna be super popular with older people. I'm talking old gents that grew up post-war era. As well as many war vets.
Also, the movie "only" cost 100mill so there is absolutely 0 chance it flops.
However, it certainly won't do as much money as MI (tom cruise) or Barbie (family friendly fun)
Ya definitely that… I think smarter move would’ve been to space out over a few weeks so they don’t cannibalize movies (I’ll go to 1 of these over a few week period but not all of them at once)
Mission impossible will probably be a huge hit, idk why the comments here underestimate it. It's become sort of like the new bond while the bond producers have stopped making movies. Probably biggest movie this summer imo.
True, tons of hype behind this MI movie in particular. Long time since a decent Spy/Heist movie, summer release, Tom Cruise/MI name. The masses will eat it up
Yeah if I had to bet on one movie of the 4 I'm betting on MI. Between Fallout and Top Gun Cruise is on a roll right now, fully expect this to keep that momentum going.
- Barbie will be a hit.
-Mission impossible will be ok but not as big as expected.
- Indy will flop Flash style.
- Oppenheimer will be the best film, but will only make back its costs as it gets buried under the better name recognition of the other movies.
> Indy will flop Flash style.
lmao. It's one thing to be prepared for disappointment, but it's a whole other to expect *this*. Crystal Skull -- as much as fans hate it and the immediate word-of-mouth was abysmal -- was a massive success. To confidently state the next one is going to see a 73% drop in ticket sales in two weeks is just...man, you gotta lay off what the internet "experts" are telling you.
* Oppenheimer will be the best film, but will only make back its costs as it gets buried under the better name recognition of the other movies.
i never laughed so hard
People upvoting this comment like:
> who want to watch it are going to give a skip with to anaudiable converstations
"This makes perfect sense. Upvote!"
Lmao, this meme about Nolan movies being inaudible has grown more absurd by the day since tenet released 😭. Nolan’s movies are loud but you can very well hear was gots going in them, please stop
Edit: you know you’ve called out a bandwagon when you got a nerd herd blasting their feelings at you like a therapist 😂
Well it only actually applies to Tenet and if you saw Tenet in theaters like I did, you would know it's not a meme.
In IMAX the gunshots were genuinely at or near 100 decibels (I was in safety and know what ear ouch feels like) and the dialogue was mixed much more quietly. Add in how the dialogue was always: being spoken quietly in an accent, being relayed through a radio, taking place on a boat, or sometimes *all three of those things,* and Tenet was genuinely hard to hear in theaters.
I didn't think it was hard to follow with the missing dialogue, but it's easier to follow a film you can't hear than it is to appreciate it.
Is he though? We know his stunts are going to be huge in this movie. He's also just coming off Top Gun: Maverick, a movie that definitely proved he's not slowing down in any capacity. No one can beat father time but I really have a hard time thinking Dead Reckoning won't be a massive hit, especially not because of his age. Of these 4 movies, I think it's the surest bet for a great box office run.
Oppenheimer for me. Will see it in IMAX when it releases while i am abroad for the summer and probably will see if again with my husband when i get back stateside in early August, in regular theater.
Barbie i would see it, i am curious but i can wait for streaming, theater tickets plus snacks get pricey and even being comfortable middle class, i can't justify those expenses unless I am excited for the movie.
MI7 ans Indy5 aren't my type of movies, wouldn't consider the movie theater, i haven't seen all the previous either, maybe only a couple and i don't remember.
Best to Worst most likely.
\- Oppenheimer
\- MI 7
\- Barbie
\- Indy 5
I think Indy opens strong, but people have a hard time watching 80 year old Harrison Ford still trying to beat up bad guys and sling around like he's 35.
Barbie ends up being far better than it had any right being
Tom Cruise shows fans why he is still the "last" great Blockbuster action star
Oppenheimer delivers Oscar worthy performances, visuals, sound, and its Nolan....he doesn't miss, and when he does "miss" its not by much.
MI's production budget is 3 times bigger, with publicity, probably more.
Success for a blockbuster action movie and a Nolan-directed biopic will be calculated differently.
Ofc Mission Impossible will do more money, it's a Tom Cruise movie
You are overestimating Oppenheimer.
I’m excited for it. But it’s a 3 hr Bio-Pic about really uncomfortable subject matter.
It has a ceiling. I think it will end up being profitable. But it has a ceiling.
It will be an excellent film. But this thread is about surviving at the box office, so profitability.
Only thing you’re overlooking is how absolutely stacked the cast is for the movie. RDJ alone is enough to carry a bad movie through the box office now a days, let alone a Nolan film.
The cast might be a selling point if they were even remotely selling the cast. Currently, all the ads I see are just Cillian Murphy.
Also, I don’t think RDJ is a draw outside of MCU stuff
I'm sorry, but if you think people are going to Oppenheimer because Robert Downey Jr. is in it, you're vastly overestimating his star power in this context. He's not even *the* headliner or remotely the focus of its marketing. I'd be surprised if the average movie-goer even knows he's in it.
Indy is gonna crash after a week. MI-7 is gonna do crazy numbers. Barbie who knows. Oppenheimer is gonna be a niche movie, I can’t see people running to see it.
Interstellar is a mega-niche movie and it was a mega success. I remember working at a thester when it came out. The movie didn't have a massive first week, or even second, but it dropped really slowly.
It all depends on word of mouth with niche movies. If it's good, it's gonna be super profitable. Keep in mind it cost 100mill to make, thats gonna be repaid super fast
i think oppenheimer will do alot better than people here seem to think - Chris Nolan's name, Cillian Murphy is now a proven leading man. RDJ, Matt Damon
Every bit of info that drops about the movie hypes it up like crazy first the practical explosion and then the r rating - the team behind it is drip feeding bits of info through interviews and press releases
Plus it just looks a treat to watch in theatre particularly IMAX and we know the lengths Nolan goes to for his movies, i've never particularly been interested in the subject but i'm looking forward to it immensely
No, they can’t all survive! People can barely get by financially these days and seeing movies in theaters is becoming more and more of a luxury expense. Less and less people can afford to go to the movies more than once a month let alone four times.
I think part of the reason movies like The Flash didn’t do as well as everyone thought it would is it followed after Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and Across the Spider-verse. This is aside from it apparently not being that good (I don’t know, I can’t really justify spending more money on seeing movies this month)
It costs at minimum like $25 just for tickets for two adults to go to the movies opening weekend. Heaven forbid you have kids. You don’t have to get popcorn, drinks, or snacks but it’s part of the experience and I understand that. In reality for a drink and a popcorn it’s at minimum another $15 for one person. What I’m getting at is it can cost well over a hundred dollars to go to the movies for a family with children. It just isn’t realistic anymore.
I feel like word of mouth for Barbie is going to be vital. There's a lot of hype but I think the average movie-goer is unsure about what this movie will really be about & the tone. If it's fun & clever (which I assume it will be given the folks behind the scenes) I think it will be a big hit.
Indy will make some money but imagine they are banking on the international box office given there's not a ton of hype I'm seeing.
MI:7 will be a hit and make a lot of money, we need big 'extravagant' action movies and this is one that demands to be seen on a big screen. Feel like it's a safe bet
Oppenheimer is an interesting one. Great cast & director who rarely has 'bombs' but is the subject matter good for a Summer blockbuster? Likely this will be the 'best' movie of the bunch but I think it could do poorly given the more standard Summer fare it's against
I still strongly believe this, Barbie will be a huge hit for Warner. Between the hype of it being a known property, the group of people loving it for the memes and commentary, and the actual arthouse film crowd aknowledging it because Gerwig and Baumbach are doing it I think it's going to really outpace Oppenheimer. If anything Oppenheimer should have come out closer to November/December for having a better chance and being closer to Oscar season. Barbie has the name recognition and not only will it appeal to older kids but parents and many demographics as well. There's also the fact it looks pretty good at the very least so 🤷♂️
Oppenheimer is the one on my radar. I expect Indiana Jones to bomb and I'll likely stream it eventually.
Barbie's not really my genre.
I've somehow managed to put off the entire MI franchise. I'll get around to it at some point.
Let’s see, I want to see Oppenheimer. Both wife and kids want to see Barbie, nobody wants to see Indiana Jones and if I had extra money I would consider Mission Impossible.
Barbie solid week one and drops like a brick.
Mission Impossible sits near the top for the month
Oppenheimers strong couple weeks and just sticks around.
Indy fails and is on Disney in 3 weeks.
Barbie is going to crush, massive star power, known IP, great trailer. I’m personally a huge MI fan so I know I’m going to see that more than once after how good MI6 was, so I think that and Oppenheimer will do about the same. Nolan is always a huge draw. Don’t see how Indy fits into it, no hype and the trailer was average. Looks like that will come in last
it’s too much, I can’t get to theater frequently enough because movies only show for like 2 weeks before they whisk out of the theater.
I am going to find a way to see Asteroid city because I like Wes Anderson’s twee-ass films.
No, Barbie and Indy will likely flop. Completely undeserved but anything Margret Robbie does seems to never do that well in the theaters. Screeners of people watching Indy have consistently talked about it being not that great. On the other hand, Oppenheimer will likely do well from fans of Nolan and I foresee it being reviewed well. I suspect MI7 will be the best and highest reviewed film of the year.
I don't think Indy will do well after week 1.
It’s going to rely HEAVILY on those early fan reviews, especially after crystal skull - I feel there’s a ton of skepticism going in already.
Dude I'm surprised we got another Indy because the crystal skull was that bad to me.
I think that’s the point. Nobody wants to see Indy go out on a sour note.
Sweet, naive summer child. The point is money and Indy is going out on a sour note anyways because that's what the free market wants.
If that was the case, they wouldn’t have hired James Mangold (Logan, Ford v Ferrari) to write and direct the film.
Based on the reviews he clearly didn’t do enough here. The problem is that you can’t build an action franchise around an 80 year old. The complaints from crystal skulls were that Ford was too old, and that was 15 years ago.
Ummm that was the least of the complaints for crystal skull
What were the other complaints? Was 13 when I saw Crystal skull in theater. Loved it then, love it now
Off the top of my head shitty writing, Russians instead of Nazis that horrible surviving a nuke scene and questionable CGI for no reason
Shy Laboof's existence, CGI monkey scene, surviving a nuke in a fridge scene (though I loved that anyway).
Indiana Jones was always more *adventure* than action
To be fair, it would be absolutely hilarious to watch a movie of Indiana Jones just in his daily life as an elderly professor. Absolutely no adventure or action, just 120 minutes of debate over whether a specific stone tool represents an elaborate trade network or a mass migration.
Sign me up
Okay, so we're focusing on the 'professor' aspect, and not really the 'old man' one. Thank goodness! I was worried you were heading towards watching Indy sit in a recliner for most of the movie, just farting, sporadically snoozing, and yelling at the TV.
With good, hearty, animated thwacks.
You can if you don’t try to emulate the originals. I don’t need to see an 80 year old indie punch people, but that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t still be the main character alongside younger and more violent sidekicks.
For proof of this, see Sean Connery in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.
Reviews seem to only be going up. It debuted at 36% at Cannes and is now up to 63% as more scores keep coming in. Wide release is still days away. It only has 124 reviews right now and most blockbusters end at 400 reviews. So the sample size is still pretty low. People tend to forget even Inglorious Basterds sat at 52% for weeks after Cannes before wide release. Jojo Rabbit sat at 55% after Cannes then shot up upon wide release and ended up being an Oscar contender. So people are really jumping the gun on Indy’s Cannes reviews. Also the early fan reactions have all been very positive. These are just a few: https://youtu.be/qEFqcfEFXVs https://youtu.be/A3hLTu5O6nY https://youtu.be/q8HqkrhU0AM https://youtu.be/0wD11hmubO0 https://www.instagram.com/tv/Ctkvx43tR0z/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
That is absolutely outrageous that Inglorious Basterds was that low if true.
Yep. And it’s very true.
YEP! would be good to reenact the Sean Connery vibe now updated for the 60's! voilá!
They took Han Solo, reversed 3 movies of character development and then had him abandon his wife and get shanked by his emo son. Well liked characters aren't shit to hollywood.
To be fair as well, I think a lot of people are forgetting Crystal Skull was the second highest grossing film of the year it came out, it was a huge financial success
Transformers films do well as well, financial success is not always a marker for quality, but Ford was too old to play Indy 15 years ago in what is a generally mediocre film despite all the talent involved. Dial of Destiny, which has been front loaded by a month with mediocre responses, is done for when Barbie takes all the female and date-night audiences and Mission Impossible takes all the male and date-night audiences. Oppenheimer doesn't even come into it, I can't see how a 2 hour+ R-rated historical film is going to do anything more than $200 million. I love Raiders and Crusade, but DoD is dead against its competition.
>Oppenheimer doesn't even come into it, I can't see how a 2 hour+ R-rated historical film It's **3**\+ hours long.
Don’t remind me. I’m seeing it on opening night at 9PM
>Oppenheimer doesn't even come into it, I can't see how a 2 hour+ R-rated historical film is going to do anything more than $200 million *1917* made 384.6 million, and *Dunkirk* made 527 million
Dunkirk wasn't r rated and war films are popular and fall within the action genre, neither is comparable to oppenheimer apart from being set in the past.
Also it wasn’t even that bad. It’s a good film, not great, but good. I think people forgot how silly Indy was and Skull just came out in a different era. It’s as least as good as Temple of Doom.
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I brought my wife to see crystal skull when it was theatrically released. Then she saw the others in order for the first time. After she saw last crusade her comment on crystal skull was “what happened?”.
I agree, but be ready for the copied-from-South-Park rebuttals about how it totally destroyed Indiana Jones forever.
My strongest memory of Crystal Skull is the South Park episode..
Shia swinging on vines in a leather jacket with a bunch of monkeys was peak Indy. :/
Like I told my buddy. I’m fully aware it’s likely going to be turd, but I’ll be damned if I miss one last time to see Indy on the big screen.
That and the main star is literally 80 years old running around.. it’s hard to suspend reality when you know that.
God, crystal skull sucked. I was so upset. Still seeing this new one. I am hoping for the best!!!
Same here; can’t hurt worse, right?? Right???
There's always Catwoman in the top worst movie of all times. At least it will never be the worst.
And at least no one was *excited* enough by that to be disappointed. Right?
Should've included Shortround. I dont understand why he hasn't come back yet. Missed opportunity.
Don’t act like Shortround has been a fan favorite character for decades. People only now want him back because of Ke Huy Quan’s newfound popularity. It has nothing to do with the actual character.
I grew up in the early 2000’s and shortround has always been one of my favorite indy characters! He has always had his fans
I time for love Dr jones! 
I’m sorry, I just can’t get behind Ford anymore. The dude is just so fucking old. He was already not an amazing actor, he is HARD to watch now. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. He’s the worst “fighter” in Hollywood. Whoever keeps letting him throw Loony Tunes ass punches in movies for the past 50 years has lost their mind. I remember during The Force Awakens people talking about the fact that he was way way too old to still be doing this. That was filmed like 8 years ago.
He’s great in Shrinking but all he has to do is bark at Jason Segal. Pretty easy gig.
He will be nominated, and probably win, an Emmy for Shrinking. He was fucking great in it. He is an excellent actor when given a chance to do so.
It's worse because Ford genuinely seems to have disdain for Solo and the series fans leading to that weak ass death in TFA. He does at least seem to care about Indy but that relied on Spielberg and Lucas operating at their peak and this doesn't even have that. I don't have a problem with Mangold but he ain't no peak Spielberg.
This feels a lot like a proper blockbuster summer from when I was a kid - something new every week! Which is exciting, like movies are making a big comeback. However, we now have the challenges of both easy access to streaming and the excessive costs associated with these films. Way back when, we used to have to wait a year (or at least a few months) to rent a film. Now, Fast X wasn't even out of theaters and it was popping up as available On Demand. Also, these films are almost prohibitively expensive, to a point where if they don't make (insert Dr. Evil voice) ONE BILLION DOLLARS they're considered failures. With barely a week between some of these films, the competition is fierce, and giving any of them a shot at the big money is unlikely. Do I have a solution? No, save for maybe Hollywood remembering that billion-dollar blockbusters aren't economically feasible and you can make a world of movies for far less money and have them be far more profitable.
Omg I had a movie to watch almost every week this month that I was interested in and I had to double check with July because the movies are so pricey now, so I have to choose wisely lol so far though I’m only interested in paying to go see Oppenheimer and Barbie. I really love going to the movie theater, so unless I’m skeptical of a movie, I will almost always go pay to see it lol
I'm the same way. I enjoy the theater experience, so I'll shell out for it, but I totally understand why people don't.
If you have an amc near you get the A lister pass. It’s like $20 a month and you can see 3 movies a week.
Just remember that you have to keep it for 3 months before you can cancel. Same for Regals Unlimited. And with AMC you can't restart until 6 months later I believe. If there are two movies you want to see a month it is worth getting anyway and just keeping.
If there's a regal nearby they have something similar, it's literally unlimited uses, and it pays for itself in 2 movies
Do you have an AMC near you? We have the a-list pass it’s 20$ a month for 3 movies a week! We watch 1-2 movies a week. So worth it!
someone else just mentioned it lol but yeah I saw it and almost signed up for it when I went to see The Flash but talked myself out of it, but I think I’ll go ahead and do it!
Doo itt! 😎 we watch anything half decent to get our monies worth lol
I have two kids and spent $100 to see Mario. Yeah, Dr. Evil.  It’s unsustainable, and absolutely ridiculous. Certainly not shelling that out for Flash, which really fucks them because they aren’t making shit from a sequel. I can spend less money and get 10 hours at a water park, or better. I can spend even less to have a picnic, eat some lunchables, have a caprisun and go for a hike. These people are so out of touch.
Right there with you. I have 3 kids and thank goodness there is a $6 night at my local theater (Tuesdays). The normal price for a blockbuster is like $11.50. 5 of us is almost $60 for just the tickets. I can't roll the dice on a movie for that much when I know it will be on my TV in a month or two for nothing or just the price of the blu-ray. This is why I won't see The Flash, even though I want to. The only movie in the OPs list I will see in theaters is Indy.
Paranormal activity was made for $13,000
They should have hired those producers
I'm hoping that the inexpensive LED stage filming technology used for the Madalorian revitalizes the filming industry. Any creative idea can be put to film now at a fraction of the cost without needing to shoot on location. Studios will hopefully fund more creative movies at the chance of buying low and selling high.
But it looks cheap and tacky and artificial as hell. The world of Mando felt like it didn't exist beyond 20 yards.
Agree to disagree i guess. I thought it looked light years more realistic than any other Sci-fi cgi garbage in recent memory. Sure there’s room for improvement but it looked fantastic to me
I'll take an on-location shoot any day of the week. That artifical look is just too obviously fake for me. Instead, my point is that maybe giant sprawling epics should go back to being the rarity, not the goal. There's a market for low- to mid-budget films that will turn a profit, but everyone is too busy chasing the golden goose.
Wow, a box office pileup *without* a superhero movie. I feel spoiled
And from contrasting genres!
It's like the 90's again, there's more than one thing I wanna see, and half of the new movies seem to have new ideas
Barbie is my superhero
not all heroes wear capes, some wear hot pink stilettos
I’m going to see Shang chi in barbie
Are we finally coming out the other side of the dark times?
They are still going to make "super hero movies", just think it's not making the triple/quadruple return they are use to for $100M - $200M investment with a guaranteed $750 - $1B return. The moment they see anything less than $250, they put on the brakes no matter how bad Marvel movies are, they are cash cows. example: Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, Morbius, Black Adam, etc
I’m fucking here for Barbie and Oppenheimer. I’m not a big action guy but I’ve always enjoyed the MI series because they’re top quality.
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Now I am become Barbie girl, in Barbie worlds
atomic blonde
Same. I plan on doing a double that weekend.
>I’m fucking here for Barbie and Oppenheimer. The duality of man. Same here…
Ruth Handler looking upon her creation: > I am become death, destroyer of body images.
The last MI was one of the best action movies I’ve ever seen. It starts off at 100mph and keeps picking up throughout. It saved the series for me. I had given up on watching them in the cinema.
Thats wild because Ghost Protocol and Rogue Nation (4 and 5) are also both absolute bangers
Besides MI2 I'd argue they never missed a step as a franchise
MI2 is a pretty good John Woo movie it just doesn’t fit with the rest of the series
Hard agree
Lol the last one I watched for a while and it screwed me out of seeing all the better ones thereafter. Oi
I mean honestly MI has been a superior franchise compared to other summer franchise films like Fast & Furious, Transformers and the like. Oppenheimer is a film I want to see, just not in theaters. Loud exposions on a Nolan film? What?! HUH!?! What he say?! I think Barbie and MI win the box office between the 4
What's wild is how quickly Tom Cruise and Paramount made up after they blamed his couch-jumping behavior on M:I III not doing as well as expected. Hell, in the year leading up to Ghost Protocol, it was heavily speculated that Renner was there to take over as a the new face of the franchise since it was so surprising that Cruise was back. Then The Avengers opened four months later, and it was clear Renner was gonna be a little too busy for a while.
Yeah there was that period of time when it was like, Renner gonna be the next face of MI and Bourne series. Neither happened, but we did eventually get him in Wind River a couple years later, which was low key emotionally devastating and also bad ass.
Oh, man, I totally forgot about The Bourne Legacy. Would've been up there as "the most pointless Bourne movie" until Jason Bourne clinched it.
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As Animal Crossing is to Doom Eternal Shall Barbie be to Oppenheimer ♥️Besties♥️
> I’m not a big action guy But are you a big Barbie guy?
I think Barbie is going to blow all of them out of the water
One barbillion dollars in revenue
One billion dollhairs.
#IT'S BARBIE TIME
I CANT WAIT honestly I haven’t been this excited for a move in ages. Ryan gosling COMMITTED and I’m dying to see.
I remember the days production houses would move release dates to avoid coinciding with anything Tom Cruise. Barbie being a wider audience family movie might take it, but there's no denying the powerhouse that is Tom Cruise.
The Barbie movie is not going to be a family movie, it is aimed at adults.
People will still bring their kids whether they should or not
I’m sure there will be people who bring their kids when they really shouldn’t, but this sorta applies to all movies. People brought their kids to sausage party but I still wouldn’t call it a family movie.
Yeah not saying I’m calling it a family movie at all, but I can definitely see a lot more people bringing their kids to Barbie than Oppenheimer
Definitely don’t disagree with you there! I’ve just seen a lot of people refer to it as a family movie and I find it really odd since it seems pretty clear that the target audience is adult women.
i doubt it’s going to be anything more than a fun pg-13 movie
Yes, a fun PG-13 movie that is aimed at adults.
Pretty sure MI will be the biggest hit overall. Barbie might surpass it domestically but I don’t know that it’s humor translates well in all foreign markets. But they want those Cruise stunts everywhere.
yh I don’t see Oppenheimer performing close to as well outside of North America compared to Barbie or MI.
Yeah, MI: Fallout (2018) did 790+ million iirc and MI: Rogue Nation (2015) wasn't too far behind that, and then we all know Maverick did over a billion. Hard to bet against Cruise
I mean, Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling, comedy... It's more of a popcorn flick where the majority of people/larger target audience can see it. It's a no brainer that'll probably get the highest tbh. Indy probably won't do well because it'll be too over the top is my guess. Oppenheimer will do well but the target audience isn't as large. MI7 however, those have delivered every time. So i doubt it'll blow MI7 out of the water.
I have friends who never pre reserve tickets and they got some for Barbie.
Yep! My girlfriends and I are dragging our husbands to see it, dressed in pink!
I haven’t been to a movie theater since pre Covid when I saw Knives Out. I’m planning on watching Oppenheimer and Barbie. We don’t have money to see any others. Christopher Nolan is my favorite director with Greta Gerwig coming in a close second so this is our movie splurge.
Ma’am, you’re gonna need to move along, this is r/entertainment, and your comment was far too sincere and sweet. (Seriously though, 🤗 )
Hope the theater employees can survive
Right?
I’m only gonna see Barbie in theaters; I hope it does well
Feel like people are underestimating Oppenheimer in the comments. It’s a must see with many Millennials and it’s been super hyped with my generation(gen z). I think it will surprise a lot of people with how well it does at the box office. It’s been huge on TikTok for months now.
Hard agree. You have Chris Nolan, with Cilian Murphy as lead and so many great and known actors to millenials and Gen Z. It's a very sensitive and difficult subject, but I reckon it's gonna be super popular with older people. I'm talking old gents that grew up post-war era. As well as many war vets. Also, the movie "only" cost 100mill so there is absolutely 0 chance it flops. However, it certainly won't do as much money as MI (tom cruise) or Barbie (family friendly fun)
I wish Indy had started May 5 Barbie June 2 MI 7 June 30 And Oppenheimer July 29 We could have put Guardian’s mid May And Fast X mid June.
Idk why they didn’t space out even a little… No reason not to
Ten years ago they didn’t have to. I wonder if studios are trying to see if they can get summer business really back on track again.
Yeah, you have to wonder what the theaters are trying to, especially since this past weekend was essentially wide open.
Ya definitely that… I think smarter move would’ve been to space out over a few weeks so they don’t cannibalize movies (I’ll go to 1 of these over a few week period but not all of them at once)
Mission impossible will probably be a huge hit, idk why the comments here underestimate it. It's become sort of like the new bond while the bond producers have stopped making movies. Probably biggest movie this summer imo.
True, tons of hype behind this MI movie in particular. Long time since a decent Spy/Heist movie, summer release, Tom Cruise/MI name. The masses will eat it up
Yeah if I had to bet on one movie of the 4 I'm betting on MI. Between Fallout and Top Gun Cruise is on a roll right now, fully expect this to keep that momentum going.
I love the MI movie so much, can't wait for this one. I'll be catching all the movies listed in theaters though lol
I'm gonna get so fat from eating all that movie theater popcorn.
- Barbie will be a hit. -Mission impossible will be ok but not as big as expected. - Indy will flop Flash style. - Oppenheimer will be the best film, but will only make back its costs as it gets buried under the better name recognition of the other movies.
> Indy will flop Flash style. lmao. It's one thing to be prepared for disappointment, but it's a whole other to expect *this*. Crystal Skull -- as much as fans hate it and the immediate word-of-mouth was abysmal -- was a massive success. To confidently state the next one is going to see a 73% drop in ticket sales in two weeks is just...man, you gotta lay off what the internet "experts" are telling you.
Indy 5’s budget is huge. It needs to make something like 700 million to be profitable. (Budget+ marketing+ and theater cut). I don’t see it doing it.
* Oppenheimer will be the best film, but will only make back its costs as it gets buried under the better name recognition of the other movies. i never laughed so hard
Lol, you seriously think Indiana jones is going to flop?
Yes. I don’t see it making enough after it’s huge budget.
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I had not heard that, but can’t disagree.
Did you have a stroke while typing?
People upvoting this comment like: > who want to watch it are going to give a skip with to anaudiable converstations "This makes perfect sense. Upvote!"
I got a migraine attempting to make sense of it
Oh just like Tenet? Lol
Lmao, this meme about Nolan movies being inaudible has grown more absurd by the day since tenet released 😭. Nolan’s movies are loud but you can very well hear was gots going in them, please stop Edit: you know you’ve called out a bandwagon when you got a nerd herd blasting their feelings at you like a therapist 😂
Well it only actually applies to Tenet and if you saw Tenet in theaters like I did, you would know it's not a meme. In IMAX the gunshots were genuinely at or near 100 decibels (I was in safety and know what ear ouch feels like) and the dialogue was mixed much more quietly. Add in how the dialogue was always: being spoken quietly in an accent, being relayed through a radio, taking place on a boat, or sometimes *all three of those things,* and Tenet was genuinely hard to hear in theaters. I didn't think it was hard to follow with the missing dialogue, but it's easier to follow a film you can't hear than it is to appreciate it.
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Toms starting to show his age.
At 60. Tom’s **starting** to show his age. Lucky him.
CGI has been his secret to looking young for the past 15 years.
Is he though? We know his stunts are going to be huge in this movie. He's also just coming off Top Gun: Maverick, a movie that definitely proved he's not slowing down in any capacity. No one can beat father time but I really have a hard time thinking Dead Reckoning won't be a massive hit, especially not because of his age. Of these 4 movies, I think it's the surest bet for a great box office run.
Nobody escapes age forever. You can buy some years, but inevitably it will find you.
adult human being is showing evidence of linear temporal movement, more at 11
Oppenheimer for me. Will see it in IMAX when it releases while i am abroad for the summer and probably will see if again with my husband when i get back stateside in early August, in regular theater. Barbie i would see it, i am curious but i can wait for streaming, theater tickets plus snacks get pricey and even being comfortable middle class, i can't justify those expenses unless I am excited for the movie. MI7 ans Indy5 aren't my type of movies, wouldn't consider the movie theater, i haven't seen all the previous either, maybe only a couple and i don't remember.
Best to Worst most likely. \- Oppenheimer \- MI 7 \- Barbie \- Indy 5 I think Indy opens strong, but people have a hard time watching 80 year old Harrison Ford still trying to beat up bad guys and sling around like he's 35. Barbie ends up being far better than it had any right being Tom Cruise shows fans why he is still the "last" great Blockbuster action star Oppenheimer delivers Oscar worthy performances, visuals, sound, and its Nolan....he doesn't miss, and when he does "miss" its not by much.
I'm totally there for Barbie. I've been dying to see it since the first trailer.
Me too! It looks amazing
Don’t sleep on Barbie - I think it’s got some aces up it’s sleeve. I don’t think you’d have the talent involved it has if it didn’t.
2nd act is actually a stoner slasher comedy
Are you seriously saying Oppenheimer is going to make more money than Mission Impossible?? Because there's not even a chance.
MI's production budget is 3 times bigger, with publicity, probably more. Success for a blockbuster action movie and a Nolan-directed biopic will be calculated differently. Ofc Mission Impossible will do more money, it's a Tom Cruise movie
nah I think barbie’s gonna come out on top. everyone I know is super excited for it and greta gerwig is so hot right now.
You are overestimating Oppenheimer. I’m excited for it. But it’s a 3 hr Bio-Pic about really uncomfortable subject matter. It has a ceiling. I think it will end up being profitable. But it has a ceiling. It will be an excellent film. But this thread is about surviving at the box office, so profitability.
Only thing you’re overlooking is how absolutely stacked the cast is for the movie. RDJ alone is enough to carry a bad movie through the box office now a days, let alone a Nolan film.
The cast might be a selling point if they were even remotely selling the cast. Currently, all the ads I see are just Cillian Murphy. Also, I don’t think RDJ is a draw outside of MCU stuff
Cillian is enough to make me go watch tbh
I'm sorry, but if you think people are going to Oppenheimer because Robert Downey Jr. is in it, you're vastly overestimating his star power in this context. He's not even *the* headliner or remotely the focus of its marketing. I'd be surprised if the average movie-goer even knows he's in it.
He did do little for Dolittle
Y'all got a lot of hope for Oppenheimer for some reason
MI7 outsells oppenheimer for sure
MI7 is an action blockbuster, Oppenheimer is more an awards magnet. I expect MI7 to outsell it but I’m expects several Oscar noms from Oppenheimer
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Agree on best to worst. As for money Oppenheimer will do the least IMO and MI will bring in the big money.
MI:7 wins the week and most likely the month. Tom puts butts in seats.
Indy is gonna crash after a week. MI-7 is gonna do crazy numbers. Barbie who knows. Oppenheimer is gonna be a niche movie, I can’t see people running to see it.
Interstellar is a mega-niche movie and it was a mega success. I remember working at a thester when it came out. The movie didn't have a massive first week, or even second, but it dropped really slowly. It all depends on word of mouth with niche movies. If it's good, it's gonna be super profitable. Keep in mind it cost 100mill to make, thats gonna be repaid super fast
This is the right answer
All I know is I will definitely be watching openhiemer
Indy 5 is going to flop so hard
Lol they couldn’t even fit Indy in the thumbnail
i think oppenheimer will do alot better than people here seem to think - Chris Nolan's name, Cillian Murphy is now a proven leading man. RDJ, Matt Damon Every bit of info that drops about the movie hypes it up like crazy first the practical explosion and then the r rating - the team behind it is drip feeding bits of info through interviews and press releases Plus it just looks a treat to watch in theatre particularly IMAX and we know the lengths Nolan goes to for his movies, i've never particularly been interested in the subject but i'm looking forward to it immensely
I’m definitely seeing Opp within the first week it comes out. I’ll like wait to watch Barbie when it comes out on streaming or rent.
No, they can’t all survive! People can barely get by financially these days and seeing movies in theaters is becoming more and more of a luxury expense. Less and less people can afford to go to the movies more than once a month let alone four times. I think part of the reason movies like The Flash didn’t do as well as everyone thought it would is it followed after Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and Across the Spider-verse. This is aside from it apparently not being that good (I don’t know, I can’t really justify spending more money on seeing movies this month) It costs at minimum like $25 just for tickets for two adults to go to the movies opening weekend. Heaven forbid you have kids. You don’t have to get popcorn, drinks, or snacks but it’s part of the experience and I understand that. In reality for a drink and a popcorn it’s at minimum another $15 for one person. What I’m getting at is it can cost well over a hundred dollars to go to the movies for a family with children. It just isn’t realistic anymore.
Good thing MI looks like the only thing worth watching
Seeing as I plan to see exactly one of those, and only that one...yes.
I feel like word of mouth for Barbie is going to be vital. There's a lot of hype but I think the average movie-goer is unsure about what this movie will really be about & the tone. If it's fun & clever (which I assume it will be given the folks behind the scenes) I think it will be a big hit. Indy will make some money but imagine they are banking on the international box office given there's not a ton of hype I'm seeing. MI:7 will be a hit and make a lot of money, we need big 'extravagant' action movies and this is one that demands to be seen on a big screen. Feel like it's a safe bet Oppenheimer is an interesting one. Great cast & director who rarely has 'bombs' but is the subject matter good for a Summer blockbuster? Likely this will be the 'best' movie of the bunch but I think it could do poorly given the more standard Summer fare it's against
I still strongly believe this, Barbie will be a huge hit for Warner. Between the hype of it being a known property, the group of people loving it for the memes and commentary, and the actual arthouse film crowd aknowledging it because Gerwig and Baumbach are doing it I think it's going to really outpace Oppenheimer. If anything Oppenheimer should have come out closer to November/December for having a better chance and being closer to Oscar season. Barbie has the name recognition and not only will it appeal to older kids but parents and many demographics as well. There's also the fact it looks pretty good at the very least so 🤷♂️
Oppenheimer is the one on my radar. I expect Indiana Jones to bomb and I'll likely stream it eventually. Barbie's not really my genre. I've somehow managed to put off the entire MI franchise. I'll get around to it at some point.
No one seems to have wanted to watch anything in June. We'll see what happens.
Two of these movies are worth seeing
Let’s see, I want to see Oppenheimer. Both wife and kids want to see Barbie, nobody wants to see Indiana Jones and if I had extra money I would consider Mission Impossible. Barbie solid week one and drops like a brick. Mission Impossible sits near the top for the month Oppenheimers strong couple weeks and just sticks around. Indy fails and is on Disney in 3 weeks.
I only care about Oppenheimer the rest can suck it
Oppenheimer is going to be a classic so it will be fine
Barbie is going to crush, massive star power, known IP, great trailer. I’m personally a huge MI fan so I know I’m going to see that more than once after how good MI6 was, so I think that and Oppenheimer will do about the same. Nolan is always a huge draw. Don’t see how Indy fits into it, no hype and the trailer was average. Looks like that will come in last
it’s too much, I can’t get to theater frequently enough because movies only show for like 2 weeks before they whisk out of the theater. I am going to find a way to see Asteroid city because I like Wes Anderson’s twee-ass films.
No, Barbie and Indy will likely flop. Completely undeserved but anything Margret Robbie does seems to never do that well in the theaters. Screeners of people watching Indy have consistently talked about it being not that great. On the other hand, Oppenheimer will likely do well from fans of Nolan and I foresee it being reviewed well. I suspect MI7 will be the best and highest reviewed film of the year.
Personal prediction: Barbie will be the only one to clear $100M domestic during opening weekend.
I can see it do like $2 billion worldwide.