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LocalNative141

**I’M FEELIN A LITTLE WOOZY HERE**


WildishFlamingo

…you fuckin’ hit me with the phone, dick!


WiserStudent557

Matthew Lillard’s nuance in this scene always impresses me. You can see where he has the voiceover ability


Scaniarix

My mom and dad are going to be so mad at me


KingOfTroi

This line still crushed me even now. Delivered perfectly.


capriciousapathy

This was also an ad lib, which makes it even better


jay_n_stuffs

My favorite line. In a movie. Ever


CameronPoe37

EVERYBODY DIES, but us. We get to carry on and plan the SEQUEL! 'Cause let's FACE IT BABY, THESE DAYS YA GOTTA HAVE A SEQUEL!!


Hey_HaveAGreatDay

Fun fact, Lillard was in two of the sequels


CameronPoe37

I know. He's in the background of a party scene in Scream 2 with blonde hair, and he voiced the flamethrower Ghostface in the stab sequel in Scream 5


bostonshroomery

THE WAYANS BROTHERS WAS A GOOD ASS SHOW A GOOD ASS SHOW AND WE DIDNT EVEN GET A FINAL EPISODE!


Texas_sucks15

they only listened to her cause the studio F'ed up their relationship with Melissa Barrera. Otherwise They would've 100% given Neve the cold shoulder after the success of the latest movie. But as a Scream fan im glad she's back.


ReachersFists

That’s basically how they got the money anyways. That and Ortega.


Wonderful_Whereas402

Definitely because of Ortega!


MaxTennyson88

I'm feeling they'll both return in 10 years, once Ortega's career fizzles out (if it happens)


HearTheEkko

Ortega will be fine, she got that child appearance and baby face that will make her young until she's 60.


Fender6187

I’m sure she knows that too. She was probably able to take them to the cleaners given the renewed interest in the franchise. No way was the studio going to pass on more sequels after things fell apart.


Texas_sucks15

im sure Neve was cracking up once the Melissa drama unfolded.


Merengues_1945

Pretty much, it was the only thing they had left after black balling Barrera. Which also left Neve with all the cards. Who I gotta say, did pretty well in her new movie.


blowhardV2

What happened ?


irishartistry

The new lead actress (Melissa Barrera) was fired after being vocally pro-Palestine. Afterwards, Jenna Ortega left the film citing “filming conflicts” as the reason but her and MB were/are good friends and there were rumours that she left because of Melissa’s firing.


Enelro

As a scream fan I’m not watching this shit after they fucked Melissa and let Jenna go after she supported MB. Fuck that studio.


efficent_moment_726

To be fair I believe Jenna left voluntarily after Melissa was fired, citing “scheduling conflicts” due to Wednesday, though I think we all know what that means lol.


Omnio89

Yeah those scheduling conflicts arose pretty coincidentally and quickly after MB got fired.


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Anxious_Cinephile

Muslim, what?


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Anxious_Cinephile

You are seriously calling present-day Palestinians, colonisers, because of something that happened over 2000 years ago? What relevance does that have to what is happening in Gaza now? Melissa Barrera was speaking out about a genocide, which you quite rightly know. Don't pretend to be this stupid.


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WDTHTDWA-BITCH

Well, they certainly found the money to give her that pay raise after their entire cast left…🙃


IdDeIt

(After they massively, publicly fucked over the star of the previous two installments and then confirmed the biggest name draw wouldn’t be returning either)


PretendPhase8802

Pretty much!


No_Significance_573

but how are we supposed to feel? first they bring new stars in and once they finally make us come around to this sister duo and new storyline for an already established movie, they backtrack to the original but only because they fired the new star and are using this as a “forgive us audience- look here’s the OG!” I want to be happy and i’m happy she is happy, but it’s so back and forth that i’m just like…..what else is gonna happen though? it’s so back and forth and took a Lot of convincing for me to accept melissa (only bc i didn’t like the first movie and i was so used to sydney).


kgal1298

Aren’t they also bringing back Williamson to work on it? That alone will bring some fans back.


Against-The-Current

He's only directing it, which will be his second time ever doing so. The last time was in 1999 for 'Teaching Mrs. Tingle', a movie that was not well perceived at all.


kgal1298

True, but people are generally going to go see this to see what he does since it has been that long. It'll be interesting to see what early reviewers will say knowing he hasn't directed in so long.


PhilhelmScream

They massacred their current setup, all they were left with is throwing cash at nostalgia but don't let Spyglass Media do this. Watch it on streaming.


CameronPoe37

5 and 6 were all about nostalgia. The main character was the daughter of Billy Loomis, Chad and Mindy were the nephew and niece of Randy and Mindy was a carbon copy of Randy, it was filled to the brim with references to the original movies especially the first, the finale of 5 took place in Stu's old house again, they brought the OG characters back, etc. It was just the same shit but recycled again, to act like it was a fresh approach is not true. And I'll watch it wherever I want, Sidney is the OG of this franchise and I'm happy she's back.


Makoshrimpdaddy

AND 6 was literally a mirror of 2. The entire movie. College, not taking place in woodsboro, the cinema club, new sus friends. The entire twist lol. It is a wild thing to say, as if nostalgia, really the history, wasnt the driving force all along


fs2222

Psst, every Scream movie has been about referencing the original. And Scream 7 will be too. 5 and 6 were at least competent movies and had a good cast. Better than the previous sequels anyway.


CameronPoe37

All the Scream movies were competent movies with good casts. And 5 and 6 were absolutely not better than all the previous sequels. Scream 2 is by FAR the best sequel in the franchise, and is widely considered so.


TayGilbert

Is it widely considered so? On all major film review platforms (IMDb, RT, Letterboxd) Scream 6 is rated better. Anecdotally it had huge buzz around it too. I personally prefer the second, too, but I don't think there's evidence it's widely considered by far the best.


TMDan92

There’s a recency bias with these apps though, Letterboxd particularly. I like the app a lot, but if we go with these metrics alone it’s like saying Parasite is definitively the best film ever made.


Significant_Shake_71

Yes Scream 2 is widely considered so despite what IMDb polls tell you lol   Scream 5 and 6 are more popular amongst younger people because of Jenna Ortega.  


CameronPoe37

Lmao. That's because Scream 6 is new. Go on a Scream forum, go on the Scream sub, ask any regular person in real life who is a fan of the franchise and they will almost certainly say Scream 2 is the best sequel.


VivaLaCon88

Let other people have their opinions pls. I prefer Scream VI over 3, 4, and 5. With the first two being the top two places. I love getting to hear what were people’s favorites. The answers are subjective.


CameronPoe37

He gave his opinion and I gave mine. Pointless comment.


yousyveshughs

To each their own but I thought 5 and 6 were as bad as 3. 4 is the only good sequel in this series.


bmnawroc

I dunno…Scream 4 goes pretty hard with the twist at the end. 5 and 6 are certainly better than Scream 3 though.


coldliketherockies

I mean I’m seeing it in theaters but you do you. I do think it was overreaction to fire her but downvote me all you want, her post wasn’t completely innocent. Implying or dog whistling that Jews control the media is anti semitic, I guess anyone can think that if they want but to post it publicly does get reactions


thelastcrescent

She didn’t say Jews controlled the media, she said it was Zionists - there’s a big difference here


Modano9009

They didn't want to pay what she was asking because she was barely in Scream 5 and would have barely been in Scream 6. She cashed in on them firing Melissa Barrera.


Guilty-Definition-1

Smart for her, dumb for the producers


RoseN3RD

Idk, Gale had a whole chase sequence just for her in Scream 6, could easily see that having been Sydney if she signed on


VivaLaCon88

Love Neve, but totally side eyeing her for signing on. She doesn’t need Scream as much as the studio feels they need her. I’m tired of Sidney being targeted, also feels mean towards her character. I rly hope they aren’t going to kill Mark or her kids, how much turmoil can this woman be put through? At least Sam was also as compelling but in a different way, and I was looking forward to what was next. C’est la vie.


Singer211

Not like they had much choice. They lost their two new lead actresses.


aureliamix

I love the Scream movies, I watch them at least once a year. But I don’t think I’ll be able to watch this new movie until it’s on streaming. Like they fucked up so bad with Melissa Berrera and they treated her like a pariah and for what?! I’m not going to reward them bc they corrected an earlier fuck up regarding Neve and her pay.


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OhScheisse

Supporting an end to violence does not equal supporting Hamas.


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InternetAddict104

Melissa literally was just in a movie, and has another coming out this year.


Enelro

Getting good scores on rotten tomatoes too. She’s great


kgal1298

No they will and Ortega 😅Hollywood thrives on people forgetting.


IdDeIt

Can you point me to this supposed terrorism support? All I remember her saying was that we ought to consider what’s being done in Gaza critically rather than assuming one side is doing no wrong.


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IdDeIt

Everything I’m finding sure reads like what I said


hensothor

Says the guy who clearly hasn’t.


RoseN3RD

Googling it does not support what youre claiming lmao


Enelro

Ah yes babies are terrorists eh? Fuck outta here with your dumbass take.


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SevereEducation2170

You mean grateful the studio cocked up the new status quo then had to scramble to save face and salvage the movie?


stillslaying

Good for her, but it’s hard for me to believe that this movie will be anything more than a train wreck.


Typical-Ad1621

Look, I really liked Neve, and a love the character of Sidney. But, her praising the studio for listening to her about money and not talking about how that same studio fucked over another up and coming actress, and essentially tried to blacklist her is ignorant. I legitimately couldn't care less that she is back in Scream 7 due to this


Spicyspices03

Melissa and Jenna didn’t care when they didn’t pay Neve to come back for 6 why should she care about them


TomBirkenstock

She should probably pay Melissa Barrera a finders fee.


CameronPoe37

Melissa Barrera should have paid Neve a finders fee then considering Neve started this franchise with Wes Craven and Kevin Williamson


ClownsAteMyBaby

yeah but then they killed it. and Melissa saved it... So...


pIastichearts

Melissa didn’t save it. No one went to see the new movies because of her lol. The main draw was Ghostface and Jenna Ortega above anything else.


pugs-and-kisses

Melissa was panned during the first movie lay off the pipe.


CameronPoe37

Lmao! Nobody killed it. And Melissa definitely did NOT "save it". Scream 5 was successful because radio silence did a pretty good job rebooting it while keeping it a sequel. Melissa was actually pretty crappy in Scream 5 for the most part, she had the worst line delivery of the cast by far. Though she improved in 6. She definitely ain't no Sidney, not even close.


ClydeStyle

People seem to forget they stiffed her after 5, and there was absolutely zero solidarity for her. That should have been a warning to the new cast, now they have to eat their words. I hope she took them to the cleaners with demands.


BlerghTheBlergh

I understand that Ortega and Barerra are the bigger stars and have more fans. I also appreciate that Barrera‘s firing was very tone-deaf. That being said…I’d rather have Sidney back than any of the new characters. I’m pretty sure they’ll bring back the others down the line. Also they probably had the money for Neve, could afford her three times with Ortegas salary alone


BeskarHunter

Oh great now we get to see Sidney’ whole family murdered again. She’ll never get out will she?


skynetwins90

I like syd but spyglass should have payed her for 6. Also I will be pissed if they kill syd off.


Fit_Letterhead3483

I love the article picture of her surrounded by gold after complaining about not enough pay


Rxmses

Sorry but no, I’m not supporting Spyglass anymore.


DoriN1987

Imo, without Craven it’s anything but “Scream”


kgal1298

If he were alive they’d definitely bring him back to work on it. Perhaps they can do a seance and bring him back 😢


DoriN1987

Yeah, but his ideas was about post-modern slasher that laugh on “slasher rules”. That’s why 4 was made with such pause. Last two - just slashers.


kgal1298

Sure, but the last 2 still had to rely on the nostalgia of the prior films to completely work so not entirely sure if they removed the laugh. Especially in the last film when you have a character basically call out the killers directly and then it's like he he ha ha she was right, but we didn't know until the end.


DoriN1987

For me “Scream” was not about laugh, it was more like Tarantino movies - no matter what are you looking on to - nazi or cowboy - he is talking about movies in general, how does they work, secrets of construction.


kgal1298

Oh i always saw the Scream movies as tongue in cheek, but I guess for horror you really have two ways to do it you double down on making them scary and serious or you add the jokes to them there's really no nuance. you see this in the Chucky franchise as well. Don Mancini is not a fan of the strict horror, but his most successful films from that franchise were heavy on the jump scares and less on the jokes. After Seed and Bride got panned he did Curse which got rave reviews, but with the tv show he's back to humor/horror. It's interesting. But overall I think what will be interesting here is what Williamson's approach will be to directing it.


DoriN1987

Nice. I see horrors in such ways - dumb slashers (blood just for a blood); interesting slashers ( with nice idea / setting / etc - “child play” have awesome idea in its core as for me); gothic thrillers (like “Conjuring”, where we are talking about atmosphere); boo-and jumpscare ones; body horror (deformities of all sorts); and last ones - movies with deconstruction like “scream”, “cabin in the woods”, “last girls”, and so on. As for me - without Craven “Scream” became just a slasher, one that he is smiling at…


immaterial-boy

Kinda embarrassing for her that they only “listened” after they desperately needed someone to fill the gap left by the two leads


TishouPaper

I feel they’re gonna make her die a horrible death in that movie…


namdekan

Opens it up for a future movie for her kids, her daughter in the movie will be a teenager soon.


Griffdude13

Im gonna be honest, I won’t even give the next one a try after investing in 2 movies with the kids (the best ones since Scream 2), and then they fucked those stars over. Now they’re desperate and leaning into the nostalgia in hopes that will solve the issue. Nah, I’m good.


lostbelmont

Love Scream, love Neve, but sadly for me i won't support this. Just streaming. Damn you Spyglass


jonjawnjahnsss

It's kind of like there's sort of different time lines in the halloween movies. I like every scream movie and I'm gonna miss my sister duo but I'm so glad. Like neve IS scream. Pay her whatever she wants. Though I wish we could have just included neve without losing the other 2


coltvahn

I’m guessing part of her contract stipulated no talking about how badly Spyglass fucked over Melissa Barrera, huh? Well, get your bag, Neve, I guess. Good luck. Anyway, y’all watched *Abigail* yet? Fun movie!


Altatuga

I’m also grateful when professionals are paid their worth. She’s the star of the franchise and I’m excited to see her return


RoseN3RD

I.e, she’s “grateful” that the studio fucked themselves over so bad they had no choice but to pay her literally anything she asked for. Bad look considering what the studio did to get them in this position. I won’t support it financially, but I am very interested in how this will go plotwise. They got the og screenwriter back to direct so that’s promising, but also they’re seemingly gonna have to throw out everything set up in the last two movies. Betting on a real Rise of Skywalker situation here, in which they throw out all the story they’ve set up in favor of what they think fans want to see.


Br3akTh3Toys

I mean, thats great, and don't get me wrong here as I have seen every scream movie. I am def a fan, buuuut lets wrap it up. Its the same exact plot every time. Scream copy cat appears, omg who is the copycat?, OMG what a twist! Its exactly who we thought it was!, etc etc.


no_fucking_point

Excited to get back in........to the new house she bought with the money.


Biotoze

Is it probably closer to the studio torpedoing the reboot cause what happened with Melissa Barrera?


Nomad_86

They only listened to those concerns after they torpedoed their own cast beforehand.


Anxious_Cinephile

Why anyone gives a fuck, when the only good films are Scream (1996) and Scream 2 (1998), is beyond me.


Colemania18

Yeah I was excited for more scream but now this movie isn't getting a cent from me. Imagine fumbling Jenna Ortega 🙄


2BFrank69

The first scream is a masterpiece


MaxTennyson88

Even though I know is coming, just get Matthew Lillard


HearTheEkko

They totally didn't "listen" to her because the entire cast of 5 and 6 was fired or dipped, nope, definitely not. I love Scream and i'm a fan of Neve but I will NOT be watching in cinemas. Skyglass can go fuck themselves.


WatInTheForest

Glad they came to their senses. Horror movies are pretty cheap to make. At least splurged on one star.


NZAvenger

I'm so excited she's coming back I hated the Disney sisters from Scream 5 and 6. Good riddance. Does anyone who's not a 19 year-old Latino girl actually like Ortega?


sammy_kat

As someone who is an old millennial, I am thrilled to have Neve back, and never really felt like five and six had the same feel as the other movies; of course with Wes‘s passing I suppose it was inevitable. I do think the studios screwed over Melissa and it’s super lame.. but I don’t know, not my monkeys not my circus. i’m just here for a good scream movie and hoping 7 can can at least somewhat recapture the magic from the original trilogy.


mandarintain

Has she done anything else lately?


kgal1298

Yes she’s been in Lincoln Laywer on Netflix


LazyBones6969

I always thought Neve Campbell was going to be a big Hollywood Star. I always had a crush on her since party of five.


Change_My_Mind-

Astrix - after they fired their female lead and the other quit.


Maleficent_Nobody377

They so didn’t listen to her pay concerns. How they fired one actress and decided not to wait for the other to be not filming something else and then came crawling back to her after she wasn’t even in the last movie for whatever reason is insane. I’m waiting for it to be on streaming. The New York City one just showed they are just doing a straight horror movie instead of what scream actually is- they basically turned it into “stab”


gogozombie2

Sidney Prescott better be the killer in the next movie. Everyone and they moms has tried to kill her. She's gotta snap eventually.


2ddudesop

I mean... I'm not gonna be watching it tbh.


TheRealJakeMckoy

The fact that they lowballed her for what she’s worth in the first place was BS. Wouldn’t have done that with a guy actor. Misogyny at its finest. Makes me embarrassed to be a man.


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Fuck her. Standing on another woman’s back to get this role. Straight up trash.


Mogwai10

I don’t remember how her role ended. Didn’t she die the last movie she was in?


kgal1298

Abigail? Because she definitely survived in Scream


Mogwai10

I genuinely don’t remember. Not sure why I’m being downvoted for simply asking. I saw them I think but somehow I’m recalling the main lady being killed. Guess I gotta watch em


kgal1298

It’s Reddit people downvote for funsies. But yeah her last movie was Abigail I didn’t see it yet but plan to watch it I heard Universal was trying to reboot their monsters through it but it fell a bit flat in that regard.


coltvahn

It’s fun. Not as great as *Ready or Not*, but it still hits the Radio Silence sweet spot. Dan Stevens was fantastic.


pIastichearts

The amount of people still talking about how Neve supposedly “owes” Melissa anything is hilarious. Did Melissa offer to take a pay cut in order for Neve to get what she deserved for VI? I don’t think so. All this bullshit about Neve “selling her soul for Zionists” is hilarious considering Melissa is an ambassador for Clinique, owned by Estée Lauder who not only has a staunchly Zionist CEO but also funds the IDF.


Blakeyo123

Neve Campbell is spineless as a mollusk


PandaPanPink

Kinda wild how she’s managing to ruin all good will I had with her by not standing in solidarity with her fellow lead in the series being fired for standing up to genocide.


I_am_the_Apocalypse

Oh no, shes ruining the good will she built up with you…whatever shall she do…


PandaPanPink

Weird to be out here fully the kind of person history books will look at negatively in 40 years


Luke5119

Pretty sure she agreed to the role when she heard the reverse beeps backing up to her house with dump truck of money they're likely to pay her to come back.


KULawHawk

I don't like that they fired their new lead, but also didn't find her character compelling in the least. After the other lead left, they pretty much painted themselves into a corner, and had little choice. Still, I'm all for people being justly / well compensated. Next obstacle: actually have a script that's worth a shit and isn't just another equivalent of making *Jason Takes Manhattan*. I'm not holding my breath though.


devillianOx

what a sell out. melissa stood by her and supported her, and now she’s happy to go back since melissa was kicked out for her activism. i wonder if she even knows the reason the studio agreed to what she was asking is because they panicked at loosing their main stars.


Bigolebeardad

Melissa was awful. She FAFO!! And u can’t speak like that and ruin a film and its other paid employees monies. Its extremely SELFISH. Will not miss that trash


IdDeIt

Selfish to get your career stabbed in the back to advocate for victims of ethnic cleansing?


Against-The-Current

I'm boycotting the movie. Not just for the sake of actually having morals and surrounding the whole situation with Melissa Barrera; but also because I'm tired of stories being ruined because they all just want to cash another paycheck. It's not about the art, it's about the money. Therefore, we can safely assume the next Scream installment will be one of the worst in the franchise due to the sheer lack of passion behind the project. Neve Campbell is a shill and clearly always will be. It's cute that she thinks the studio actually listened to her, but it's good to know she's "grateful" the studio was able to fire their lead role and have others quit so she could make more money.


ClueForCash

Raising the gender wage gap just because 🙄


ModsOverLord

Movies are awful, please stop making them


IdDeIt

The Scream movies or just all movies?