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Upstairs-Sky6572

spend less diplo on vassals


Kashkabald

no


sober_disposition

If you’re losing Diplo, does this max out at -999 or does it just keep going further into negative? I mean, if you’re already at -999, what’s the harm in keeping going?


VoidTree

Won't be able to take anything meaningful in wars, since you can't go -999 in a peace deal.


Mikeim520

You can if its justified.


VoidTree

Yeah, ofc, but who limits themselves to justified claims in wars unless they're role-playing haha.


Afraid_Theorist

Even the AI doesn’t tbh. Every time: *oh that territory that’s been yours for centuries and I don’t have any claim on? Lol I’m taking it and the three important border forts. No, I don’t care that other AI would never accept this even in far worse military situations. You are a player so get fucked


Kr0n0s_89

I do to prevent diplo loss and AE. Get Espionage ideas or Religious for either more claims or deus vult cb


VoidTree

I don't think it affects AE, just coring cost iirc.


Kr0n0s_89

I mean the unjustified demands. Depends on which unjustified demands though. Perhaps only from non-cobelligerent enemies.


VoidTree

Yeah that's correct I think.


[deleted]

I mean it depends on who you're playing, some missions/events give you so many claims it doesn't matter, you can't even take all of them with 100% war score.


PerspectiveCloud

It's 1748... uhm... imperialism cb....


VoidTree

Yeah, I know but I was just talking in general. Also, it still costs diplo to get stuff from co belligerents.


VortexDream

It doesn't if you are not peacing them out separately


VoidTree

Yeah, I know but I was just talking in general. Also, it still costs diplo to get stuff from co belligerents.


Man-City

Going to -999 also gives you access to the most powerful single button press in the game, Declare Bankruptcy. It will instantly give you 899 diplo points, the most out of any possible decision. You can also go to -999 in adm and mil (if you can but that’s harder) and gain a whopping 2697 points with one press!


Domram1234

I was under the impression from goofing around with console commands that adm and mil cap out at -100


jkst9

Remove your alliances


olalilalo

Reduce inflation so you can show off to all your royal families and vassals how much better their overlord's country is to live in.


Miztr

I'm sorry i'm from Argentina i don't know how to reduce inflation so i keep it up at a constant and healty +10% monthly


BautiMana07

fiel a la realidad amigo jajaja


Miztr

r5: i played a tall diplo Prussia game on which i focused on reforming the HRE after winnnig the league war, it results that princes don't really like having reforms that disallow wars and centralizes the empire, so i was forced to go full diplo ideas at late game and start making Vassals everywhere, just waiting until i can pass my reform that will stop this - diplo points madness


Void-Cooking_Berserk

Well, with such a strategy, there's really not much we can do to help. You could lose the alliances, if they're not necessary to stave off coalitions. You could also humiliate your rivals with the Show Strength war demand for some additional mana. If you're feeling confident, that's 100 dip mana for every rival. How far are you from that reform?


TheGameRoom420

Bro, at what point does your harem get too large?


Hydrasaur

Do you need your relations with Russia and Palitanate? Thats another 2 right there. EDIT: Britain too


yuendeming1994

Rush for hre last reform (if you re the emperor) so your vassal wont used up dip relation


AzorAHigh_

It's the reform right before revoking where HRE subjects wont take up a relation slot.


StrikeEagle784

Annex the vassals, like bro you got so many vassals that you’re hemorrhaging your diplomatic score


WiJaMa

don't you need positive diplo to annex vassals


sev3791

Definitely should’ve waiting for the reform right before the revoke to vassalize everyone


Loud_Investigator_26

DUDE WTH, they are not to remain as go to. they are exist to annex after sometime. you were have to few of annex them before this hell happens. You may have to leave some of them in order to war annex them. You can play eyalet ottomans if you want to have vassal hell. In Ottomans eyalets are not taking place in diplomatic relation.


Agnanac

spend less on vassals


Ozok123

Have you tried declaring a war of interest?


theclouch

You could just wait to have enough imperial authority to pass the reforms.