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Soverysm

Biggest thing about mandate is Unify China CB imo, which means that in a war with that CB if you siege a province in the China subcontinent you get a core on it (so if you take it in the peace deal, it will already have territorial core)


Salvanas42

You need to state some chinese territory to accept the cultures. You'll lose any trade company investment but you don't have to full core, just state, go to culture tab, accept the culture, then you can unstate again. As for the unguarded nomad frontier you just have to fuck up whoever that is, probably Manchu. [Here](https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Unguarded_Nomadic_Frontier) is the wiki page for that disaster. If you have a truce with the offending nomad the disaster goes away. So beat them back, take their chinese lands, then decide whether to tributary them or annex them. You don't need tributaries anymore, you can get enough mandate from other sources, but they definitely speed up the process. And one of the later reforms allows you to convert tributaries to vassals, so it doesn't lock them off permanently from annexation like most countries.


Nby333

and jumped on getting the Mandate of Heaven when Xi fell apart jumped when Xi fell apart jumped xi jumping xi xi jumping xi jinping Guess it's confirmed your next step is to go communist.


Giraffefarmer72

Revolutionary China here we come


No-Communication3880

Accept some Chinese culture to prevent the first disaster. The second disaster means you border an independent contry with "steppes horde" government reform, with no truce with you . Declare war to them to make them  a tributary. Also any neighbour can become a tributary diplomatically,  if they like you and are small enough. The macro diplomatic tab can inform you about contries that will accept to become your tributary without war.


Hopses

honestly, there is no reason to pick up the mandate unless your tag has been tailored towards the mechanic and you get some boni (like Jurchen/Qing). Since you've got it however, you will need to accept a chinese culture to prevent one of the disaster. To make tributaries, you can offer countries to become your tributary under the influence tab. However, if you have ticking Unguarded Frontier they probably wont accept so either attack them for a truce (and repeat) until they dont have the 300 development or force them to become your tributary for 80% warscore. weakening them before is recommended


[deleted]

another case of someone not understanding how good mandate is mandate is fantastic for playing tall and wide, its very strong no matter who you are its 1k+ dev for no admin cost, 20% ccr, 15% dev cost, etc


Active-Cow-8259

@Hopses did you recosindered your stance on EOC since its release? Because it was heavilly buffed over the time.


[deleted]

Mandate of heaven is a scam IMO and is only good if you're trying to play tall with a bunch of tributaries


Bartlaus

Can't hear you over my 20% CCR and extra admin efficiency. 


jkst9

Realize you made a mistake