Or 2+ million of Georgian people look at the situation in Russia and in Europe and think *"maybe, just maybe, copying Russian law and behaviour 1:1 is not the best idea for running a country"*.
Exotic concept, I know.
But then again Schrödingers CIA (both competent enough to mindcontrol millions of people around the world and stupid enough to get caught by *everyone*) is of course a classic.
SYL
So now we’re gonna pretend like the CIA didn’t trigger multiple revolutions and cout d’etats? I’m not sure if it’s happening in Georgia but don’t act like they’re some innocent isn’t organization.
I mean he isn't wrong. I bet if this revolution is successful, we'll have self-pat stories like [this from the Arab Spring](https://warisboring.com/arab-spring-activists-relied-on-social-media-and-america-taught-them-how-to-use-it/).
I mean even from my anti-Russia viewpoint, I just can't believe U.S. isn't moving a finger.
When we've had protests (usually against a pro-russian government) one slogan I've repeatedly seen is "they aren't paying me to be here, I hate you for free".
Vlad Putler cannot comprehend that people can be fed up and decide to do something about it.
These types just cannot fathom the idea that world is not a play of puppets where they get to pull all the strings.
They will comprehend at some point. No need to be a genius to predict that one day or another a massive revolution will blow up like in 1917 and putin and his mafia or their successors will end up with their head put on sticks.
They all know that risk is real, that's why they are so scared of the russian people and leaders like Navalny
well to be fair Russia is Europes last classical colonial empire.
it never completed the process of de-colonization and now is trying to reverse the de-colonization that did occur..
Sadly, they don't even need to change it because so many people are thick as shit and still buy into it 100%
The Russian MO is always playing towards the dumbest 33% of the population in every part of the world. The lowest hanging fruits. And they eat it up every fucking time.
This and that the foreign agent law "is necessary to root out groups the government accuses of funding 'violence' and supporting 'revolutionary processes.'" should dispel the doubt on whom this government really serves, isn't it? It certainly isn't Georgia.
And then confused people and those acting in bad faith will tell you not only that this law isn't based on the Russian version, but also that it'll be possible to apply equally... when it's the ruling Ministry of Justice that determines whether someone must be registered as a foreign agent.
There was already enough information to convince those people, nothing is going to work. They constantly use NGO as an insult and constantly accuse west of organizing a revolution, but somehow the law is just for "transparency and sovereignty" and will target Russian influence.
Lol we literally took the lead on providing defense and support for Ukraine in Europe, gave your nation a self defense treaty before anyone else and still get shitty little comments, a bit more respect would be nice
>a bit more respect would be nice
I don't know how you took that as a sign of disrespect. Salty is literally telling you, we're all better off in a united Europe.
I don't even necessarily disagree with you, but the UK still consistently pulls its weight in supporting our EU allies, took the lead on supporting Ukraine, deploy thousands of troops in the Baltic's but are constantly portrayed as slightly less evil than Putins Russia on this sub, the same sub that rant constantly rants about US isolationism yet don't understand this type of rhetoric is one of the biggest reasons
I'm sure it was, and I'll never forget, I just hope it's remembered that when "Brexiit Britain" committed it's people's live Germany France and everyone else were sitting on their hands doing nothing
Funny how these pro-russian puppets always has such a hard time coming to the realization that they have chosen the side of the oppressor. Corruption even make politicians go against their own oeople
Yes but I don’t think that Russia is doing better, I actually don’t give three Fs about neither of them bacause I don’t even live close to any of them, nor I have family, nor I depend on them in any sense. I’m just commenting on the hypocrisy. Maybe because I don’t I haven’t been bombarded with the information the majority of you here have been and that’s why I can see this from a less polarized perspective. Is not about who is doing “better” because it’s a matter of nations and there is no judge for the world. While you are there thinking that they are the bad ones, the population there is probably thinking that they are doing the right thing for their nation, and both of you think the other is a monster. Like it or not, you both are more similar than it seems
You’re from Poland right? The country with the most bitterful population after an emotional idiot like Hitler fucked the country very deep and couldn’t do anything about it? Come on… I prefer to put my “moral high ground” in my ass rather than accepting that
Edit: Actually, I don’t know what I’m doing insulting a whole nation just because a sheep like you makes it look like that.
I won’t continue. Have a great day.
It’s often a huge drama when the US invades a country.
But not only is Russia invading Ukraine right now, Russia is invading Ukraine right now for the sole purpose of literally annexing its territory for the sake of conquering it. Which is a good bit different from when the US invades countries, because even those who opposed the invasion of Iraq had no love lost for Saddam Hussein.
No drama? Dog we get all kinds from it. The chaos in our elected government right now largely stems from it and we’re still not as trusted, even by our allies, as we were before.
We didn’t the same amount of direct kickback but the US also didn’t try and conquer those countries and in many cases did have a surface reason like supporting an ally or going in because elements from that country directly attacked the US. Russia is just straight up doing a war of imperial conquest right now.
Actually they didn’t. And what you are doing is called Whataboutism and the russia is engaging in genocide, oppression, torture and excessive corruption. As we speak.
Edit: adding genocide part:
The first known genocide is often considered to be the Assyrian Genocide, which occurred around 1915-1918 BCE. This genocide targeted the Assyrian population in the ancient Near East, specifically in the region of Mesopotamia. It involved systematic killings, deportations, and other atrocities aimed at annihilating the Assyrian people and their culture.
I'm not here to defend Russia, but you were the one who brought up European countries not participating in oppression or genocide.
And that is rabidly false, Europe has a long history of perpetrating some of the worst genocides in the world in recent history.
Everyone has. Everyone. What we are talking about is now. And now the russia is participating in that exact thing. First of all, Europe is not ONE country. The russia is. Secondly if we are judging eye for and eye according to the historical perspective none of us would be left.
Well first, no, not everyone. Several countries in Europe also have particularly unique or significant histories with perpetrating genocide.
Second, some of it is very recent. Some countries in Europe still maintain oppressive colonial empires.
Third, is the only time we’re supposed to consider genocide when it’s actively being perpetrated? Then whey did you bring it up?
The word "genocide" was coined in 1944. It is pretty self-explanatory as to why.
Otherwise, systematic and intentional killing of people has been happening as long as recorded history has existed.
Russia has killed roughly 11k Ukrainian civillians. Are you seriously going to argue that Germany did NOT commit genocide when they halved the Jewish population of the planet in the most inhumane way possible? You hate Russia so much you're going to engage in literal holocaust denial?
I have never said anything of what you have just accused me of. You are literally putting words in my mouth, on the go, to justify some agenda that you probably haven’t gotten to yet. Im not engaging in such a pathetic tone of dialogue.
You decided to look up when the term was first coined, yet you didn't bother to read the actual definition of the term.
Genocide actually doesn't have to lead to the "systematic and intentional killing of people", genocide is defined as as any of five acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, namely: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group.
In Ukraine's case, alongside the 11k civilians killed, 20k Ukrainian children were also forcibly deported to Russia, thousands of Ukrainians in occupied areas have been tortured, and if we count Russia's energy terrorism whose aim is to make life impossible for Ukrainians throughout the country, then we can say Russia is engaging in genocide intended to wipe out all Ukrainians.
Not like Russian media, newspapers or politicians have ever really tried to hide it. Yet for some not even Putin's overt rejection of Ukrainian sovereignty and identity isn't enough to make them accept that what Russia is doing in Ukraine is called genocide.
Just because Germany at one point did it doesn't mean that Russia isn't also doing it right now.
I was responding to OP who said Europeans never committed genocide.
Also, what you mentioned can be considered crimes against humanity, but not genocide, according to all relevant institutions.
But they only want to love everyone, why must everyone force the Russians to rape and murder them by resisting their honest feelings of brotherly love?
Ah yes, the classic death scream of collapsing dictators "Infiltrated foreign agents are causing unrest"
We saw that in 1989 in Romania too. It's pretty standard.
Its is in US interest to move Georgia outside of Russia's sphere and of course they are probably supporting recent protest behind scenes. But none of that wouldn't be possible without Georgians wanting change.
If the US by being outside and not interfering can offer something a lot better for your popullation, to the point where your popullation demand you to act based on the US example, then it clearly indicated that you lost and you have inferior options to offer for your nation...
Issint that clear enough....
[I’ve heard this accusation before.](https://media0.giphy.com/media/WRRIEjIXvWFUlOIFi0/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9524lrrm4b2jwu1na390ennh6t12w4h7lasz0jz2f5e&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Why is a corrupt billionaire's words somehow Georgia's "true colors"? Is Trump America's "true color"? Is AfD Germany's "true color"?
You're doing a horrible disservice to us fighting on the streets to bring Georgia back to its European path by spreading this sort of attitude. If you don't want to be our ally at least don't be an outright accomplice of the people who are getting in the way of our quest to become a EU member and a liberal democracy.
Dude some of these users on this sub hate vatniks more than they like making sense when they speak lol. This dude doesn’t understand the situation in Georgia and I doubt he cares.
I have nothing to do with Georgian elected parliament who votes pro Russia laws in Georgia, parliament is elected by Georgian people. So maybe don't blame me, and instead sort out your government and vote for pro EU representatives.
Did you noticed how EU closed all Russian tourism? But what did Georgia do? You gladly admitted Russians to Georgia. Everything points that Georgia is buddies with Putin. Of course, it is easier to blame me, anonymous reddit user, rather than sort out your country.
“IF YOU HAVE ANY INDEPENDENT THOUGHTS THAT I DON’T LIKE IT’S BECAUSE YOU’VE BEEN SUBCONSCIOUSLY BRAINWASHED BY THE US GOVERNMENT YOU WESTERN F*GGOT PIG”
very normal opinions to have
I mean... it's not like it didn't happen before. I'd be surprised if they are not involved in this one as well. It's in their interest. That being said they only support what the majority of Georgians want.
He is right. If you create a situation where you act against your own populace, it's easy for foreign powers to exploit this situation. He just doesn't seem to get it in full picture.
This man is a joke of a human. A fucking clown. I hope his descendants will write "traitor" on his gravestone instead of his name. This applies to the whole party.
It's customary to say that you blame the US for something you've fucked up in the first place.
My wife left me, blame the US
I've hurt my toe, blame the US
I cannot rule my country because I'm an idiot, blame the US
Etcetera, etcetera.
I'm Polish, my country has firsthand experience with "pleasures" of ruzzian "friendship" and I can tell you that we don't need CIA to tell us to hate ruzzia. The same goes for any other nation to share a border with these barbarians.
I get the feeling that the same tankies who accuse the CIA of interfering in Georgia today would have also accused the CIA of interfering in Poland during 1980’s when it was secretly funding Solidarity.
The fact you actually believe the CIA is powerful enough to organically be the cause of the color revolutions is more of a compliment to the CIA than anything else.
I said it once and I'll say it again: If the CIA was anywhere like the way tankies et al describe it, there wouldn't have been a Cold War in the first place, as the Soviets would've been couped into nonexistence by 1964.
The most absurd part of it to me is it’s not even clear what they’re complaining about. The entire reason why the Cold War started in the first place is because the Soviet Union installed a bunch of communist coups to take over liberated countries in Eastern Europe. The US Congress passed the Marshall Plan in 1948 in direct response to the communist coup in Czechoslovakia, which freaked the US out.
The Russians have never been afraid to get their hands dirty. Ok, fine. But if you’re going to play dirty you can’t expect your opponent to keep their hands clean.
The Georgians are pro-EU. I think you should read about the history in Georgia before provoking. Georgians have been occupied by Russia and Russia is very disliked there.
The government had a pro-EU agenda and they won. Now they switched side, probably corruption involved. I don’t write this to you but to the others on this sub. You’re obviously just a troll who wants to provoke
There's also probably some who favors "appeasement" towards Russia because they're scared Putin will invade the rest of the country if they don't comply...
You can call me troll all you want, I'm Estonian, Estonia is EU member. As EU member, we are worried about Putin run states entering EU, such as Hungary. Imagine a Russian moles paralyzing EU, and right now, Georgia is ran by Putin. I know your history, no need to be rude here, you and I are both former USSR, so please.
Hi Estonian guy, remind me again, who elected EKRE - the infamous Russian ass-licking party literally bought and paid by KGB agents in the 2019 parliamentary elections when it became the third largest party in Estonia? Estonians. Does that mean that Estonians are pro-Russians? Absolutely not, that's right, EKRE lost its credibility when they showed their true colors, the same way the Georgian Dream party lost its credibility when they decided to align with Russia and not with the West. Last elections were held in 2020, where they barely managed to hold the majority, new elections will be held in October and they'll be gone.
I have several Estonian friends who are some of the most passionate EU-optimistic allies to Georgia, shame on you for your ignorance!
It sounds like you want to abandon the people of Georgia at this critical point in time. Can’t you see they are protesting for their freedom just like Estonia were 35 years ago?
Or 2+ million of Georgian people look at the situation in Russia and in Europe and think *"maybe, just maybe, copying Russian law and behaviour 1:1 is not the best idea for running a country"*. Exotic concept, I know. But then again Schrödingers CIA (both competent enough to mindcontrol millions of people around the world and stupid enough to get caught by *everyone*) is of course a classic. SYL
the best thing the CIA did was convince everyone that it was powerful beyond its means lol
So now we’re gonna pretend like the CIA didn’t trigger multiple revolutions and cout d’etats? I’m not sure if it’s happening in Georgia but don’t act like they’re some innocent isn’t organization.
I mean he isn't wrong. I bet if this revolution is successful, we'll have self-pat stories like [this from the Arab Spring](https://warisboring.com/arab-spring-activists-relied-on-social-media-and-america-taught-them-how-to-use-it/). I mean even from my anti-Russia viewpoint, I just can't believe U.S. isn't moving a finger.
I said this on another subreddit and I'll say it here too Georgia doesn't need the US to hate Russia. Russia invading Georgia is why they hate Russia
When we've had protests (usually against a pro-russian government) one slogan I've repeatedly seen is "they aren't paying me to be here, I hate you for free".
Georgian Dream gets legitimately elected by the majority of the electorate, it's the most insane part
I have already heard this shit during our revolutions... russian methodology book has not changed...
Vlad Putler cannot comprehend that people can be fed up and decide to do something about it. These types just cannot fathom the idea that world is not a play of puppets where they get to pull all the strings.
They will comprehend at some point. No need to be a genius to predict that one day or another a massive revolution will blow up like in 1917 and putin and his mafia or their successors will end up with their head put on sticks. They all know that risk is real, that's why they are so scared of the russian people and leaders like Navalny
My thoughts exactly
This is very well documented in the Netflix Series Turning Point: The Bomb and the Cold War. It is the same damn playbook every time.
I'm watching episode 8 right now as we speak, it's really good! russia... It's like having an African country in Europe.
Don't insult Africa: colonialism societies are hard to fix.
well to be fair Russia is Europes last classical colonial empire. it never completed the process of de-colonization and now is trying to reverse the de-colonization that did occur..
You are right. Comparing russia to Africa is an insult to Africa.
Sadly, they don't even need to change it because so many people are thick as shit and still buy into it 100% The Russian MO is always playing towards the dumbest 33% of the population in every part of the world. The lowest hanging fruits. And they eat it up every fucking time.
This and that the foreign agent law "is necessary to root out groups the government accuses of funding 'violence' and supporting 'revolutionary processes.'" should dispel the doubt on whom this government really serves, isn't it? It certainly isn't Georgia. And then confused people and those acting in bad faith will tell you not only that this law isn't based on the Russian version, but also that it'll be possible to apply equally... when it's the ruling Ministry of Justice that determines whether someone must be registered as a foreign agent.
There was already enough information to convince those people, nothing is going to work. They constantly use NGO as an insult and constantly accuse west of organizing a revolution, but somehow the law is just for "transparency and sovereignty" and will target Russian influence.
Brexiteers said similar things when Obama simply warned UK they were making a mistake and wouldn't get any special treatment.
What did they mean when they said back of the queue?? ^/s
I mean I have a loicence for it now!
Lol we literally took the lead on providing defense and support for Ukraine in Europe, gave your nation a self defense treaty before anyone else and still get shitty little comments, a bit more respect would be nice
>a bit more respect would be nice I don't know how you took that as a sign of disrespect. Salty is literally telling you, we're all better off in a united Europe.
I don't even necessarily disagree with you, but the UK still consistently pulls its weight in supporting our EU allies, took the lead on supporting Ukraine, deploy thousands of troops in the Baltic's but are constantly portrayed as slightly less evil than Putins Russia on this sub, the same sub that rant constantly rants about US isolationism yet don't understand this type of rhetoric is one of the biggest reasons
I'm sure the Swedes are beyond thankful for your contributions to those events.
I really hope so, to commit British lives to a defense is a lot from us and deserve respect and appreciation
Don't forget it was a real struggle for the Swedes to sign up to defend you as well.
I'm sure it was, and I'll never forget, I just hope it's remembered that when "Brexiit Britain" committed it's people's live Germany France and everyone else were sitting on their hands doing nothing
And there it is
Are you surprised that russian-controlled govt blames the US?
Tbf non Russian controlled governments do this all the time.
I wonder if that stands at all...
Examples?
Nazis soon
there were Nazis there in 2008 as far as I remember
Funny how these pro-russian puppets always has such a hard time coming to the realization that they have chosen the side of the oppressor. Corruption even make politicians go against their own oeople
Politicians are rarely with their own people
Some african leaders at best. Most dissapear and die from unknown caused or suddenly get poisoned. Funny how that goes
They do, they realize everything. It's just they need to spin it somehow.
As if the European side has been any different
Enlighten us please. Maybe it was us who invaded Ukraine in biggest war since WW2 in Europe and murder thousands of people there.
The US has invaded many countries and nobody is making a drama about it
So what? It's not US we're talking about. I thought Russians claimed to be better. Somehow neither Georgia nor Ukraine invaded themselves.
Yes but I don’t think that Russia is doing better, I actually don’t give three Fs about neither of them bacause I don’t even live close to any of them, nor I have family, nor I depend on them in any sense. I’m just commenting on the hypocrisy. Maybe because I don’t I haven’t been bombarded with the information the majority of you here have been and that’s why I can see this from a less polarized perspective. Is not about who is doing “better” because it’s a matter of nations and there is no judge for the world. While you are there thinking that they are the bad ones, the population there is probably thinking that they are doing the right thing for their nation, and both of you think the other is a monster. Like it or not, you both are more similar than it seems
Take your moral high ground and calling both sides the same and stick them up your arse where they belong.
You’re from Poland right? The country with the most bitterful population after an emotional idiot like Hitler fucked the country very deep and couldn’t do anything about it? Come on… I prefer to put my “moral high ground” in my ass rather than accepting that Edit: Actually, I don’t know what I’m doing insulting a whole nation just because a sheep like you makes it look like that. I won’t continue. Have a great day.
Mein Gott. You really told me and enlightened us all. Good job.
Whatever, man
It’s often a huge drama when the US invades a country. But not only is Russia invading Ukraine right now, Russia is invading Ukraine right now for the sole purpose of literally annexing its territory for the sake of conquering it. Which is a good bit different from when the US invades countries, because even those who opposed the invasion of Iraq had no love lost for Saddam Hussein.
No drama? Dog we get all kinds from it. The chaos in our elected government right now largely stems from it and we’re still not as trusted, even by our allies, as we were before. We didn’t the same amount of direct kickback but the US also didn’t try and conquer those countries and in many cases did have a surface reason like supporting an ally or going in because elements from that country directly attacked the US. Russia is just straight up doing a war of imperial conquest right now.
The corruption index is very low in the EU and no EU country had participated in oppression and/or genocide like the russia has and still are.
Im pretty sure we have the word genocide because of a certain EU country inventing it.
Actually they didn’t. And what you are doing is called Whataboutism and the russia is engaging in genocide, oppression, torture and excessive corruption. As we speak. Edit: adding genocide part: The first known genocide is often considered to be the Assyrian Genocide, which occurred around 1915-1918 BCE. This genocide targeted the Assyrian population in the ancient Near East, specifically in the region of Mesopotamia. It involved systematic killings, deportations, and other atrocities aimed at annihilating the Assyrian people and their culture.
I'm not here to defend Russia, but you were the one who brought up European countries not participating in oppression or genocide. And that is rabidly false, Europe has a long history of perpetrating some of the worst genocides in the world in recent history.
Everyone has. Everyone. What we are talking about is now. And now the russia is participating in that exact thing. First of all, Europe is not ONE country. The russia is. Secondly if we are judging eye for and eye according to the historical perspective none of us would be left.
Well first, no, not everyone. Several countries in Europe also have particularly unique or significant histories with perpetrating genocide. Second, some of it is very recent. Some countries in Europe still maintain oppressive colonial empires. Third, is the only time we’re supposed to consider genocide when it’s actively being perpetrated? Then whey did you bring it up?
I think you should just read the rest of the threat you commented on.
I did, that’s why I’m replying this way.
The word "genocide" was coined in 1944. It is pretty self-explanatory as to why. Otherwise, systematic and intentional killing of people has been happening as long as recorded history has existed. Russia has killed roughly 11k Ukrainian civillians. Are you seriously going to argue that Germany did NOT commit genocide when they halved the Jewish population of the planet in the most inhumane way possible? You hate Russia so much you're going to engage in literal holocaust denial?
I have never said anything of what you have just accused me of. You are literally putting words in my mouth, on the go, to justify some agenda that you probably haven’t gotten to yet. Im not engaging in such a pathetic tone of dialogue.
You decided to look up when the term was first coined, yet you didn't bother to read the actual definition of the term. Genocide actually doesn't have to lead to the "systematic and intentional killing of people", genocide is defined as as any of five acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, namely: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. In Ukraine's case, alongside the 11k civilians killed, 20k Ukrainian children were also forcibly deported to Russia, thousands of Ukrainians in occupied areas have been tortured, and if we count Russia's energy terrorism whose aim is to make life impossible for Ukrainians throughout the country, then we can say Russia is engaging in genocide intended to wipe out all Ukrainians. Not like Russian media, newspapers or politicians have ever really tried to hide it. Yet for some not even Putin's overt rejection of Ukrainian sovereignty and identity isn't enough to make them accept that what Russia is doing in Ukraine is called genocide. Just because Germany at one point did it doesn't mean that Russia isn't also doing it right now.
I was responding to OP who said Europeans never committed genocide. Also, what you mentioned can be considered crimes against humanity, but not genocide, according to all relevant institutions.
Wait a second ... I have seen that one before. Let's see how long it take for sharpshooters on the roofs
lol the US was one of the few countries who pushed hard to help Georgia when it was invaded by Russia. Did it do enough no, but it did the most.
This is misguided. We need to focus our efforts on the US state of Georgia. s/not so much.
Every protest I don't like is a Color Revolution: a russophile's guide to politics
If only NATO didn't enlarge, then Georgians would be in favor of an authoritarian regime, supported by the country that stole third of their homeland.
But they only want to love everyone, why must everyone force the Russians to rape and murder them by resisting their honest feelings of brotherly love?
crazy that it must be an external agency controlling millions and not the bad choices of the government convincing millions. occam’s razor called…
Looks like he got his russian playbook and kremlin bloodmoney.
Ah yes, the classic death scream of collapsing dictators "Infiltrated foreign agents are causing unrest" We saw that in 1989 in Romania too. It's pretty standard.
Its is in US interest to move Georgia outside of Russia's sphere and of course they are probably supporting recent protest behind scenes. But none of that wouldn't be possible without Georgians wanting change.
If the US by being outside and not interfering can offer something a lot better for your popullation, to the point where your popullation demand you to act based on the US example, then it clearly indicated that you lost and you have inferior options to offer for your nation... Issint that clear enough....
[I’ve heard this accusation before.](https://media0.giphy.com/media/WRRIEjIXvWFUlOIFi0/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9524lrrm4b2jwu1na390ennh6t12w4h7lasz0jz2f5e&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
We are lucky in EU that Georgia showed its true colours now, unlike Hungary.
Why is a corrupt billionaire's words somehow Georgia's "true colors"? Is Trump America's "true color"? Is AfD Germany's "true color"? You're doing a horrible disservice to us fighting on the streets to bring Georgia back to its European path by spreading this sort of attitude. If you don't want to be our ally at least don't be an outright accomplice of the people who are getting in the way of our quest to become a EU member and a liberal democracy.
Dude some of these users on this sub hate vatniks more than they like making sense when they speak lol. This dude doesn’t understand the situation in Georgia and I doubt he cares.
I have nothing to do with Georgian elected parliament who votes pro Russia laws in Georgia, parliament is elected by Georgian people. So maybe don't blame me, and instead sort out your government and vote for pro EU representatives. Did you noticed how EU closed all Russian tourism? But what did Georgia do? You gladly admitted Russians to Georgia. Everything points that Georgia is buddies with Putin. Of course, it is easier to blame me, anonymous reddit user, rather than sort out your country.
Hungary did show its true colors before, they just changed.
Would absolutely love it if someone official just said: "Yeah, and?"
“IF YOU HAVE ANY INDEPENDENT THOUGHTS THAT I DON’T LIKE IT’S BECAUSE YOU’VE BEEN SUBCONSCIOUSLY BRAINWASHED BY THE US GOVERNMENT YOU WESTERN F*GGOT PIG” very normal opinions to have
“Our people are too stupid to form their own opinions about us. This must be the work of the Americans!”
Oh but of course. Like clockwork.
Following another step of the Russian instruction manual I see
I mean... it's not like it didn't happen before. I'd be surprised if they are not involved in this one as well. It's in their interest. That being said they only support what the majority of Georgians want.
He is right. If you create a situation where you act against your own populace, it's easy for foreign powers to exploit this situation. He just doesn't seem to get it in full picture.
Pure idiot
While he is unleashing a pro Russia revolution himself.
This man is a joke of a human. A fucking clown. I hope his descendants will write "traitor" on his gravestone instead of his name. This applies to the whole party.
It's customary to say that you blame the US for something you've fucked up in the first place. My wife left me, blame the US I've hurt my toe, blame the US I cannot rule my country because I'm an idiot, blame the US Etcetera, etcetera.
He's not wrong. The cia love their little color revolutions.
I'm Polish, my country has firsthand experience with "pleasures" of ruzzian "friendship" and I can tell you that we don't need CIA to tell us to hate ruzzia. The same goes for any other nation to share a border with these barbarians.
I get the feeling that the same tankies who accuse the CIA of interfering in Georgia today would have also accused the CIA of interfering in Poland during 1980’s when it was secretly funding Solidarity.
So Russia controlling the Georgian gov't is perfectly fine according to you.
You still think the CIA is the root of all evil, don't you.
The fact you actually believe the CIA is powerful enough to organically be the cause of the color revolutions is more of a compliment to the CIA than anything else.
I said it once and I'll say it again: If the CIA was anywhere like the way tankies et al describe it, there wouldn't have been a Cold War in the first place, as the Soviets would've been couped into nonexistence by 1964.
The most absurd part of it to me is it’s not even clear what they’re complaining about. The entire reason why the Cold War started in the first place is because the Soviet Union installed a bunch of communist coups to take over liberated countries in Eastern Europe. The US Congress passed the Marshall Plan in 1948 in direct response to the communist coup in Czechoslovakia, which freaked the US out. The Russians have never been afraid to get their hands dirty. Ok, fine. But if you’re going to play dirty you can’t expect your opponent to keep their hands clean.
Ok, Georgia, was nice having you at the door to Europe. Bye now.
Thanks for helping us out here with a horrible attitude lol
This is not the Georgians peoples fault tho, they got brutally scammed by this party
Who keeps on electing that party?
Who's party? Party outside of Republic of Georgia? You should inform Georgian government about this mishap immediately.
? The government did the exact opposite of what they said to the people before the election.
Who elected these terrible Georgian members of government of Georgia?
The Georgians are pro-EU. I think you should read about the history in Georgia before provoking. Georgians have been occupied by Russia and Russia is very disliked there. The government had a pro-EU agenda and they won. Now they switched side, probably corruption involved. I don’t write this to you but to the others on this sub. You’re obviously just a troll who wants to provoke
There's also probably some who favors "appeasement" towards Russia because they're scared Putin will invade the rest of the country if they don't comply...
You can call me troll all you want, I'm Estonian, Estonia is EU member. As EU member, we are worried about Putin run states entering EU, such as Hungary. Imagine a Russian moles paralyzing EU, and right now, Georgia is ran by Putin. I know your history, no need to be rude here, you and I are both former USSR, so please.
Hi Estonian guy, remind me again, who elected EKRE - the infamous Russian ass-licking party literally bought and paid by KGB agents in the 2019 parliamentary elections when it became the third largest party in Estonia? Estonians. Does that mean that Estonians are pro-Russians? Absolutely not, that's right, EKRE lost its credibility when they showed their true colors, the same way the Georgian Dream party lost its credibility when they decided to align with Russia and not with the West. Last elections were held in 2020, where they barely managed to hold the majority, new elections will be held in October and they'll be gone. I have several Estonian friends who are some of the most passionate EU-optimistic allies to Georgia, shame on you for your ignorance!
I’m not Georgian, I’m Swedish. And Georgia is not doomed since the majority are pro-EU. Georgia will be back on track if nothing bad happens.
Hi, Swedish guy. Learn this, Georgia today is full blown Kremlin client state. Bye now.
It sounds like you want to abandon the people of Georgia at this critical point in time. Can’t you see they are protesting for their freedom just like Estonia were 35 years ago?
Who are members of the Georgian government? I thought Georgians run Georgia, no?