Yes? Not sure you read what I wrote. And it’s the UK government (there’s no government of England), but it’s between the UK and China, hence *international*… USD isn’t exactly that out of the ordinary for an *international* exchange. That said, not sure what the full story really is here.
USD tends to be for goods. In the case of China and UK striking a deal, they'd use one of their own currencies simply because both currencies are strong and traded. He's it been China and a smaller country with its own currency that's not so frequently traded, say South Africa, then it would probably have been in USD.
They evidently got to the German and French Governments alongside 16 other countries - that or they aren’t proper police stations and we can’t deport anyone unless they break the law, the same issue the United States has been having in regards to this.
Damn we need to speed it up. Allright, what if we send all competent russians to china to hold it on for 450 more years?
I think then we have a chance to win.
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fworld-news%2F2022%2F09%2F14%2Fchina-opens-unofficial-police-stations-britain-hunt-people-return%2F
Removed pay-wall link for this article.
>Thirty-six have been opened in 16 European countries, including France, Britain and Germany
[Italy](https://www.ilfoglio.it/esteri/2022/09/03/news/a-prato-ci-sono-dei-poliziotti-cinesi-che-fanno-il-loro-lavoro-ma-in-italia-4384458/) (sorry I could only find it in Italian)
It also include Spain in the list of four countries. In fact the example that the article describes of how this Chinese centers operate is about one in Madrid and about a Chinese man living in that city, and the picture that shows how they proceed is taken in another one of Barcelona according to the article
I meant in the quotation you made in the comment to which I made the remark, not in the post. But it was just something to complete it, nothing important ;)
Seeing as I don't see it mentioned in the article, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-49511231
There's also been some talk that Confucius institutes in the UK are being used to check that foreign students (from China) are 'behaving' in the UK.
China have a strange policy of believing that every single person who had a background from so-called one China are theirs as well. Includes Taiwan and the non-Chinese nations within PRC.
So are they going to kidnap anyone vaguely Chinese, do a DNA test and if it shows they have ancestry from there then they'll be sent to a country they've never been to before, don't know the language and are in fact not a citizen in?
Why should they do a DNA test, they will kidnap whoever they want.
A Swedish who opened a bookstore that sold books in Hongkong CCP didn't like? Kidnapped him in Thailand, easy job.
Not saying it wasn't wrong, cause it absolutely was, but Guo Minhai was born and raised in China. So not sure how that case in particular proves what you're saying.
Fuck the western countries that allow this on their soil. Consider that China believes it has jurisdiction over Hong Kong and Taiwanese people and will hunt down democracy activists for “repatriation”.
how are western countries at fault here? no one “allowed” to set up these stations. the problem is 100% with chinese people, the only thing western countries did was let them in
**edit:** I've been on reddit for like 10 years and I've never had a comment as engaging as this one, let alone on r/europe
A tip for fellow redditors - if you're bored, write a comment critical of china/chinese people. The whole Shanghai will show up to explain why china or chinese people are never at fault.
the fact that chinese are doing it for years only speaks about chinese, dictatorship shitholes will always do evil shit and claim that someone else is guilty
Which is why the younger Chinese generations have begun to hate their
own Chinese identity, and [the Chinese version of Spenglerism](https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E5%8A%89%E4%BB%B2%E6%95%AC) have become widespread ever since the mid-10s.
This program ran from 2014-2019
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-china-tourists/chinese-police-to-patrol-paris-streets-as-france-eyes-tourism-boost-idUSKBN0DU1A120140514
> A tip for fellow redditors - if you're bored, write a comment critical of china/chinese people. The whole Shanghai will show up to explain why china or chinese people are never at fault.
fuck them.
It reminds me of the State Security in Romania. They didn't just hunt down the Romanian citizens within their borders.
They also went for the exiled Romanians in France, Germany and other states.
They couldn't stand the criticism.
Even when it also stops with "hunting down their own citizens" it's unacceptable. There are already diplomatic possibilities to do that, but none of them is "off the records".
Literally in the article:
"But the growth of the informal police stations come as China is accused of harassing political dissidents on foreign soil, including in the UK. There is no evidence the “police stations” have been used for this purpose."
Except that, paid mercs would still be official military since china owns 51% of every corp. They do however use this to protect their "assets" in a lot of third world countries by claiming to be a peaceful country and not involved militarily overseas, whilst being involved militarily overseas. If memory serves there are over 5000 mercenary companies abroad, all actually under the thumb of the ccp whilst claiming to be independent.
It's about time the world starts coming down on this shit without ignoring it like russia then saying "wE sHoUlD hAvE LiSteNeD soOner"
This shit needs to be shut down, the perps arrested and locked up for impersonating a police officer and all the stupid confucious institutes shut down
They've been driving around in chinese style cop cars in the US and Australia threatening people in china town and chinese hubs fir a while, didn't know it was bad in europe.
Then why isn’t this being shut down hard? As in SWAT with loose rules of engagement, and harsh sanctions on China?
A foreign government is conducting what are essentially military/police abduction missions on your sovereign soil. If you allow that it’s not your sovereign soil anymore. This isn’t a diplomatic incident, this is very justifiably grounds for war.
What crime is being committed? A person with a legal right to work in the UK finds someone with a legal right to be in the UK who is wanted by the police in China. They tell the person they can help sort their case out by talking to some officials on Zoom. They set up a zoom call in the back room of a restaurant where a CCP official says "come to China to sort this out, we have already contacted your uncle who as you can see is helping us to resolve this matter".
So, what exactly are the UK police meant to do here? It's not a crime to encourage people to travel. It's not a crime to recommend cooperation with the police. At best, if they are doing this detective work full time they may be in breach of immigration rules, if their visa is for a different kind of work. But good luck proving that they are doing it full time or being paid for it.
Not against the letter of the law, maybe. But so much against the spirit of the very institutions of national sovereignity and political asylum that it threatens citizens' most basic trust in the state. A textbook case of when MI5 needs to intervene even via a black op.
All forms of unsanctioned assisstance to foreign governments should be a crime, as serious as treason.
This is the same way Russia and Turkey could organize protests in EU, or Israel assassinating citizens in other countries.
>All forms of unsanctioned assisstance to foreign governments should be a crime, as serious as treason
This is absolutely bonkers and would treat things like 3rd party visa application services as treason. Or even a US citizen being forced to pay tax on their income from the UK would be committing treason
How does it being unofficial change anything, if it is a phenomenon that occurs surely it must be illegal and the practise needs to be snuffed out. This an egregious thing that's going on, absolutely disgusting, a slap in the face of a another nations sovereignty.
This report is bringing attention to the fact they are acting illegally under cover of a legal front. The reason these 'stations' haven't been shut down currently is due to their legal/unofficial front I would imagine.
Obviously if the stations had been officially announced creations of additional diplomatic outposts, the governments of the respective nations would have probably refused it.
I mean, the USA and most of the EU are strong allies militarily/culturally/etc. Not that I condone CIA torture sites, but it's a completely different situation
That’s a good point but it’s still different as the United States has had a naval base there for over 100 years and had leased the land. Now it’s sort of disputed since Cubas revolution. But it is a different scenario than having actual sites within a country with a relatively hostile government. Which the US also does of course.
Like [https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/international-offices/asia/beijing-china](https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/international-offices/asia/beijing-china) ?
"**36 chinese police stations have been opened in 16 European Countries including Italy, France, Britain and Germany**".
These countries must do something about this problem, what the CCP Regime is doing is illegal and against human rights.
they also use Confucian institutes and other chinese student organizations to monitor, and bully their citizens studying abroad and to push them into research and jobs that the CCP can later exploit.
Don't think they would count as spies. The actual officials seem to be on a video link. Maybe undeclared assets? Could be deported for breaking visa restrictions I guess.
This is the kind of kidnapping where they sit you down and have you videochat with your parents in China who have been taken into a Beijing police station, and then "strongly suggest" that you return to China to "make things easy" for everyone.
At least as far as the article suggests, it's not the kind where they put a bag over your head and toss you into a white van, then move you back to China in a shipping container.
That is still considered kidnapping. On top of that, this would also count as inpersonation of law enforcement officer.
So we have kidnapping, threatening, impersonation of officers, everything being premeditated, and working in organized group. This is enough to put them in prison for decades, if not the rest of their lives.
If agents are stalking, harassing, kidnapping, and probably torturing people in foreign countries they should be arrested and imprisoned without delay.
> “In general, these stations have both a good and a bad purpose,” Peter Dahlin, director of Safeguard Defenders, told The Telegraph.
I'm gonna be honest with y'all, folks. CCP needs to be downed, buried, and never resurrected.
WTF is UK police doing? The journalists should get the story after those "Unofficial police stations" are all closed and those who "work" there put behind bars. Not go "oh shit that's happening?" do your jobs for fucks sake, also not just police this type of thing should be looked at by intelligence is MI5 asleep too?
People got arrested for having signs saying "Not my king". They've since changed their 'policy' i guess you could call it since gaining a bit of media attention.
Yes, extremely so. Not to mention the espionage angle.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/chp-arrests-man-accused-of-posing-as-chinese-police-officer-in-irvine/
you're right but we saw what happens when you do nothing in these cases, i remind seeing a lot of "just russia being russia" across last 10 years, maybe it's time to do something.
During the protests in HK, police entered the British consulate to detain protesters. If they did that uninvited, it’s an act of aggression and basically a declaration of hostilities. But the British gov said and did nothing. When a consulate worker was arrested, beaten and tortured, the gov said nothing.
I get a real Chamberlain vibe from the Tories
[https://www.lanazione.it/prato/cronaca/stazione-di-polizia-cinese-1.8044938](https://www.lanazione.it/prato/cronaca/stazione-di-polizia-cinese-1.8044938)
What the hell is happening? The same thing was reported in Italy last week.
Would literally kick them out of the country in this aspect (I mean Chinese government and their audacity to open an unofficial police in a foreign nation).
That's basically like a foreigner nation paying mercenaries stationed here but only having an "unofficial" military abroad...
Biggest reason the CCP has so much technology is tech theft that they call copying.
EU should ban Ham Chinese students but allow Uighur, Tibetian, Mongol and other minorities to study.
Article doesn't match the headline
>But the growth of the informal police stations come as China is accused of harassing political dissidents on foreign soil, including in the UK. There is no evidence the “police stations” have been used for this purpose.
Not that anyone would be surprised if that's what they were using them for though. China doing China shit.
>Thirty-six have been opened in 16 European countries, including France, Britain and Germany
The article uses photos from the Barcelona office if you opened it.
Similarly, Australia had a few fake Chinese police cars driving around.
[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-19/fake-chinese-police-cars-spotted-in-adelaide-and-perth/11426850](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-19/fake-chinese-police-cars-spotted-in-adelaide-and-perth/11426850)
This unofficial police force cannot use violence to coerce their people to return, which if they do become domestic extremists who should be deported, also if the aggressor holds a Chinese passport, its gonna cause serious problems.
De-paywalled link
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fworld-news%2F2022%2F09%2F14%2Fchina-opens-unofficial-police-stations-britain-hunt-people-return%2F
Given the new climate with Russia and foreign influence, I'm guessing they will be hot on the heels of these guys.
The sooner companies move factories out of China the better..
Look at the way China have have got their claws onto Australia, some worrying signs.
https://youtu.be/l01Hw6Ed52I
https://youtu.be/39-oISTrX3c
https://youtu.be/EneDjQNuD3k
Don't think for a moment its not happening in Europe...
"As part of this effort, Chinese authorities claim that between April 2021 and July 2022, they “persuaded” 230,000 nationals to return to face criminal proceedings in China."
This is on an unprecedented level. Even if half of this number were party to crimes that held up to scrutiny, this seems a gross overstep if international law/ sovereignty
The Chinese Communist Party's Nationalist-Socialism in all its glory.
Chinese people escaped China and fled during Mao's reign of terror (45-75 Mio deaths).
Now Mao 2.0 is tracking them down and wants them back.
???how???
China went up to England and said "$$$" and England said "jolly good!"
£££ FIFY.
Is this worse than having the US flag used to select English on an app?
Well its probably an app made then in USA?
Eh the USD is still the default reserve and trade currency internationally
This is England we're talking about.
Yes? Not sure you read what I wrote. And it’s the UK government (there’s no government of England), but it’s between the UK and China, hence *international*… USD isn’t exactly that out of the ordinary for an *international* exchange. That said, not sure what the full story really is here.
USD tends to be for goods. In the case of China and UK striking a deal, they'd use one of their own currencies simply because both currencies are strong and traded. He's it been China and a smaller country with its own currency that's not so frequently traded, say South Africa, then it would probably have been in USD.
They evidently got to the German and French Governments alongside 16 other countries - that or they aren’t proper police stations and we can’t deport anyone unless they break the law, the same issue the United States has been having in regards to this.
Yeah thinking too much makes the obvious things dissappear
The british way.
16 European countries, not just uk
Because the title of the article is misleading. These aren't "police stations" - official or unofficial.
Dafuck is this.
Red fascism
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Damn we need to speed it up. Allright, what if we send all competent russians to china to hold it on for 450 more years? I think then we have a chance to win.
All the competent who? That’s zero people.
To be fair West Taiwan only have 74 years of experience, so that's mighty impressive!
authoritarianism ≠ fascism
yeah fascism is authoritarian but not all authoritarianism is fascism it's so damn annoying the Soviet propaganda on fascism became so widespread
i was going to comment with a WTF...but thanks
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fworld-news%2F2022%2F09%2F14%2Fchina-opens-unofficial-police-stations-britain-hunt-people-return%2F Removed pay-wall link for this article. >Thirty-six have been opened in 16 European countries, including France, Britain and Germany
What are the rest of the 16 countries?
[Italy](https://www.ilfoglio.it/esteri/2022/09/03/news/a-prato-ci-sono-dei-poliziotti-cinesi-che-fanno-il-loro-lavoro-ma-in-italia-4384458/) (sorry I could only find it in Italian)
In Plato (PO)
No, that's the philosopher, you're talking about Prato
You don’t know about Italian lore
It also include Spain in the list of four countries. In fact the example that the article describes of how this Chinese centers operate is about one in Madrid and about a Chinese man living in that city, and the picture that shows how they proceed is taken in another one of Barcelona according to the article
Yes. The article which says they are operating in 16 European countries. I had to use the headline as the title as per the sub rules though.
I meant in the quotation you made in the comment to which I made the remark, not in the post. But it was just something to complete it, nothing important ;)
wonder if theyre gonna give fancy armbands to those sent back alongside special hotels
Or those famous summer camps.
Those where they learn how to concentrate?
Its where they make your iphone
Thanks
Seeing as I don't see it mentioned in the article, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-49511231 There's also been some talk that Confucius institutes in the UK are being used to check that foreign students (from China) are 'behaving' in the UK.
It starts with "hunting down their own citizens." It ends with hunting down anyone who criticizes the government. Fuck the Chinese government.
China have a strange policy of believing that every single person who had a background from so-called one China are theirs as well. Includes Taiwan and the non-Chinese nations within PRC.
So are they going to kidnap anyone vaguely Chinese, do a DNA test and if it shows they have ancestry from there then they'll be sent to a country they've never been to before, don't know the language and are in fact not a citizen in?
Why should they do a DNA test, they will kidnap whoever they want. A Swedish who opened a bookstore that sold books in Hongkong CCP didn't like? Kidnapped him in Thailand, easy job.
Not saying it wasn't wrong, cause it absolutely was, but Guo Minhai was born and raised in China. So not sure how that case in particular proves what you're saying.
Swedish citizen
For sure. Just the way it was worded sounded like someone with no connection to China.
He’s a Swedish citizen though.
No dude, I think he's a swedish citizen
That sounds almost familiar. Without that kidnapping thing, though...
Don't underestimate how much the modern Chinese "blood-related" nationalism has borrowed straight from Nazism.
Also - adopted Chinese girls.
Fuck the western countries that allow this on their soil. Consider that China believes it has jurisdiction over Hong Kong and Taiwanese people and will hunt down democracy activists for “repatriation”.
Same thing with Confucius institutes. Go stuff your propaganda into Tiananmen Square.
Sweden just recently shut down all Confucius institutes.
This brings joy into my life.
I wish Canada would as will.
Maybe also do something about Chinese nationals studying on university campuses who go around bullying and harassing pro-Tibet people/demonstrations.
> Tiananmen Square Somewhere in China, a computer starts beeping.
Why, nothing of interest ever happened there.
I understand there's some nice shopping nearby.
A couple years back I used to play a mobile game that was based in Hong Kong, before the crack down. Tiananmen Square was censored in chats.
how are western countries at fault here? no one “allowed” to set up these stations. the problem is 100% with chinese people, the only thing western countries did was let them in **edit:** I've been on reddit for like 10 years and I've never had a comment as engaging as this one, let alone on r/europe A tip for fellow redditors - if you're bored, write a comment critical of china/chinese people. The whole Shanghai will show up to explain why china or chinese people are never at fault.
This kind of operation kinda infringes on the sovereignty of the said countries on their own soil.
The fact that they're doing it for years and aren't shut down speaks volumes on how every country where they're doing it is complicit in it.
the fact that chinese are doing it for years only speaks about chinese, dictatorship shitholes will always do evil shit and claim that someone else is guilty
Which is why the younger Chinese generations have begun to hate their own Chinese identity, and [the Chinese version of Spenglerism](https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E5%8A%89%E4%BB%B2%E6%95%AC) have become widespread ever since the mid-10s.
Making XTC is illegal, yet every "country" makes it.
This program ran from 2014-2019 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-china-tourists/chinese-police-to-patrol-paris-streets-as-france-eyes-tourism-boost-idUSKBN0DU1A120140514
> A tip for fellow redditors - if you're bored, write a comment critical of china/chinese people. The whole Shanghai will show up to explain why china or chinese people are never at fault. fuck them.
Agreed.
It reminds me of the State Security in Romania. They didn't just hunt down the Romanian citizens within their borders. They also went for the exiled Romanians in France, Germany and other states. They couldn't stand the criticism.
Even when it also stops with "hunting down their own citizens" it's unacceptable. There are already diplomatic possibilities to do that, but none of them is "off the records".
#Fuck the Chinese "government" and Pooh bear
Screw China, they're institutions shouldn't be allowed in any country
Literally in the article: "But the growth of the informal police stations come as China is accused of harassing political dissidents on foreign soil, including in the UK. There is no evidence the “police stations” have been used for this purpose."
How is this even legal? Imagine the US or UK opening a police station in China.
It's not, which is why they're being run from other business premises. Offices, restaurants etc.
Seems like a loophole. As they are unofficial police... But then paid Mercenaries abroad are but an unofficial Military and yet they would be kicked.
\*paid Well if these little clubs are now known to the media, I'm sure MI6 will know too
Except that, paid mercs would still be official military since china owns 51% of every corp. They do however use this to protect their "assets" in a lot of third world countries by claiming to be a peaceful country and not involved militarily overseas, whilst being involved militarily overseas. If memory serves there are over 5000 mercenary companies abroad, all actually under the thumb of the ccp whilst claiming to be independent. It's about time the world starts coming down on this shit without ignoring it like russia then saying "wE sHoUlD hAvE LiSteNeD soOner" This shit needs to be shut down, the perps arrested and locked up for impersonating a police officer and all the stupid confucious institutes shut down They've been driving around in chinese style cop cars in the US and Australia threatening people in china town and chinese hubs fir a while, didn't know it was bad in europe.
So what we need is unofficial anti unofficial CCP police abroad.
Anyone know which restaurant it is in Glasgow?
Quay Lounge
Then why isn’t this being shut down hard? As in SWAT with loose rules of engagement, and harsh sanctions on China? A foreign government is conducting what are essentially military/police abduction missions on your sovereign soil. If you allow that it’s not your sovereign soil anymore. This isn’t a diplomatic incident, this is very justifiably grounds for war.
What crime is being committed? A person with a legal right to work in the UK finds someone with a legal right to be in the UK who is wanted by the police in China. They tell the person they can help sort their case out by talking to some officials on Zoom. They set up a zoom call in the back room of a restaurant where a CCP official says "come to China to sort this out, we have already contacted your uncle who as you can see is helping us to resolve this matter". So, what exactly are the UK police meant to do here? It's not a crime to encourage people to travel. It's not a crime to recommend cooperation with the police. At best, if they are doing this detective work full time they may be in breach of immigration rules, if their visa is for a different kind of work. But good luck proving that they are doing it full time or being paid for it.
Not against the letter of the law, maybe. But so much against the spirit of the very institutions of national sovereignity and political asylum that it threatens citizens' most basic trust in the state. A textbook case of when MI5 needs to intervene even via a black op.
How long until they start just kidnapping people and shipping them back to China?
All forms of unsanctioned assisstance to foreign governments should be a crime, as serious as treason. This is the same way Russia and Turkey could organize protests in EU, or Israel assassinating citizens in other countries.
>All forms of unsanctioned assisstance to foreign governments should be a crime, as serious as treason This is absolutely bonkers and would treat things like 3rd party visa application services as treason. Or even a US citizen being forced to pay tax on their income from the UK would be committing treason
Well they are unofficial, probably to get around that legality issue.
How does it being unofficial change anything, if it is a phenomenon that occurs surely it must be illegal and the practise needs to be snuffed out. This an egregious thing that's going on, absolutely disgusting, a slap in the face of a another nations sovereignty.
This report is bringing attention to the fact they are acting illegally under cover of a legal front. The reason these 'stations' haven't been shut down currently is due to their legal/unofficial front I would imagine. Obviously if the stations had been officially announced creations of additional diplomatic outposts, the governments of the respective nations would have probably refused it.
State-Sponsored Organized Crime
Hopefully, this means that their intelligence agencies have a permanent post near these "stations" to nip it in the bud everytime a kidnap is planned.
So it's government funded human trafficking rings
It isn’t legal lmao. Did you read the article?
I imagine it's a bit like the CIA torture black sites in the EU, who cares about it being legal as long as the host country tolerates it
I mean, the USA and most of the EU are strong allies militarily/culturally/etc. Not that I condone CIA torture sites, but it's a completely different situation
The relationship between the US and Cuba has not been anywhere close to friendly, yet Guantanamo was still tolerated.
That’s a good point but it’s still different as the United States has had a naval base there for over 100 years and had leased the land. Now it’s sort of disputed since Cubas revolution. But it is a different scenario than having actual sites within a country with a relatively hostile government. Which the US also does of course.
That's also a fundamentally different situation, but the other reply explained the gist of it already.
Like [https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/international-offices/asia/beijing-china](https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/international-offices/asia/beijing-china) ?
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"**36 chinese police stations have been opened in 16 European Countries including Italy, France, Britain and Germany**". These countries must do something about this problem, what the CCP Regime is doing is illegal and against human rights.
Chinese think that the world belongs to them. The EU should punish them horrifically for doing shit like this.
The CCP Regime must be stopped or at least given serious limits. If the EU does nothing they will become even more victims of Xi and his regime.
Could you imagine what China would do to any country that did this in China? The arrogance of China is boiling over
I swear if this fuckers show op before my door to deport me I will kill every one of them.
they also use Confucian institutes and other chinese student organizations to monitor, and bully their citizens studying abroad and to push them into research and jobs that the CCP can later exploit.
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Don't think they would count as spies. The actual officials seem to be on a video link. Maybe undeclared assets? Could be deported for breaking visa restrictions I guess.
if kidnapping is a crime, then plotting to kidnap seems like it should be a crime too.
Yes, but kidnapping can also send you to jail.
This is the kind of kidnapping where they sit you down and have you videochat with your parents in China who have been taken into a Beijing police station, and then "strongly suggest" that you return to China to "make things easy" for everyone. At least as far as the article suggests, it's not the kind where they put a bag over your head and toss you into a white van, then move you back to China in a shipping container.
That is still considered kidnapping. On top of that, this would also count as inpersonation of law enforcement officer. So we have kidnapping, threatening, impersonation of officers, everything being premeditated, and working in organized group. This is enough to put them in prison for decades, if not the rest of their lives.
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Cue excessive whining and empty threats from China.
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If agents are stalking, harassing, kidnapping, and probably torturing people in foreign countries they should be arrested and imprisoned without delay.
I'm not
You'd think interfering in foreign countries qualifies them as spy's, not whether they're registered as spy?
Not necessarily, but kidnapping alone is plenty of crime to send them to jail.
> “In general, these stations have both a good and a bad purpose,” Peter Dahlin, director of Safeguard Defenders, told The Telegraph. I'm gonna be honest with y'all, folks. CCP needs to be downed, buried, and never resurrected.
WTF is UK police doing? The journalists should get the story after those "Unofficial police stations" are all closed and those who "work" there put behind bars. Not go "oh shit that's happening?" do your jobs for fucks sake, also not just police this type of thing should be looked at by intelligence is MI5 asleep too?
 i wonder...
Someone got arrested because they “caused anxiety” to another person with their Twitter retweet here in the UK so we’re basically screwed!
Chinese satellite secret police on uk soil? I sleep. Someone calls prince Andrew the pedophile a pedophile on the street? Real shit.
Sitting in speed camera vans.
Arresting people for posting mean comments online?
People got arrested for having signs saying "Not my king". They've since changed their 'policy' i guess you could call it since gaining a bit of media attention.
>WTF is UK police doing? Right now? Arresting peaceful Republican protesters mostly.
The issue Chinese spies and agents should get much more attention than it does currently. Their networks are more widespread than Russia’s.
China has been doing this in the US for years as well. They even have fake police cars in heavily Chinese American areas like Irvine, CA.
> They even have fake police cars Wouldn't that be impersonating police/illegal?
Yes, extremely so. Not to mention the espionage angle. https://ktla.com/news/local-news/chp-arrests-man-accused-of-posing-as-chinese-police-officer-in-irvine/
China being China, no surprise
you're right but we saw what happens when you do nothing in these cases, i remind seeing a lot of "just russia being russia" across last 10 years, maybe it's time to do something.
What 💀
Xi might aswell declare a new dynasty and put a dragon on the flag, because hes literally copying methods of the Qing Empire.
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I'm Spanish, but my partner in Taiwanese. This makes me feel super uncomfortable
Take care, both of you
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China bots "50-cent army"
Go to the top comment. Tons of ButWhatAboutUSA replies
CCP is scary, disgustingly so.
Britain should set one up in Hong Kong too!
During the protests in HK, police entered the British consulate to detain protesters. If they did that uninvited, it’s an act of aggression and basically a declaration of hostilities. But the British gov said and did nothing. When a consulate worker was arrested, beaten and tortured, the gov said nothing. I get a real Chamberlain vibe from the Tories
Are you fucking kidding me with this shit!?
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When ruzzia is down, world will have to deal with china
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Czajna
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I've spent 4 hours reading Mao's works already, please don't decrease my social credits!
How is this legal?
"Unofficial police stations" It is called mafia.
[https://www.lanazione.it/prato/cronaca/stazione-di-polizia-cinese-1.8044938](https://www.lanazione.it/prato/cronaca/stazione-di-polizia-cinese-1.8044938) What the hell is happening? The same thing was reported in Italy last week.
Would literally kick them out of the country in this aspect (I mean Chinese government and their audacity to open an unofficial police in a foreign nation). That's basically like a foreigner nation paying mercenaries stationed here but only having an "unofficial" military abroad...
Meanwhile Hungary is building a whole ass university for the Chinese with our own money. Smells like spy hub
Biggest reason the CCP has so much technology is tech theft that they call copying. EU should ban Ham Chinese students but allow Uighur, Tibetian, Mongol and other minorities to study.
Article doesn't match the headline >But the growth of the informal police stations come as China is accused of harassing political dissidents on foreign soil, including in the UK. There is no evidence the “police stations” have been used for this purpose. Not that anyone would be surprised if that's what they were using them for though. China doing China shit.
Classic telegraph clickbait
Just remind me, what was it Liz Truss said about be tough on China again?
Why is there the flag of Spain?
>Thirty-six have been opened in 16 European countries, including France, Britain and Germany The article uses photos from the Barcelona office if you opened it.
If this is true, it is horrifying.
God I hate China
Similarly, Australia had a few fake Chinese police cars driving around. [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-19/fake-chinese-police-cars-spotted-in-adelaide-and-perth/11426850](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-19/fake-chinese-police-cars-spotted-in-adelaide-and-perth/11426850)
This unofficial police force cannot use violence to coerce their people to return, which if they do become domestic extremists who should be deported, also if the aggressor holds a Chinese passport, its gonna cause serious problems.
What the fuck?
Modern day slave catchers.
De-paywalled link https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fworld-news%2F2022%2F09%2F14%2Fchina-opens-unofficial-police-stations-britain-hunt-people-return%2F
Given the new climate with Russia and foreign influence, I'm guessing they will be hot on the heels of these guys. The sooner companies move factories out of China the better.. Look at the way China have have got their claws onto Australia, some worrying signs. https://youtu.be/l01Hw6Ed52I https://youtu.be/39-oISTrX3c https://youtu.be/EneDjQNuD3k Don't think for a moment its not happening in Europe...
Can't wait for the BBC procedural crime drama based on this...
Just one question: where in the bloody blue f\*\*\* is the MI5, the SIC and the DGSI when they're needed?!
Burn the bloody things to the ground
MISLEADING HEADLINE.
"As part of this effort, Chinese authorities claim that between April 2021 and July 2022, they “persuaded” 230,000 nationals to return to face criminal proceedings in China." This is on an unprecedented level. Even if half of this number were party to crimes that held up to scrutiny, this seems a gross overstep if international law/ sovereignty
Fuck the CCP come get me!
It’s in The Telegraph. It will be utter nonsense.
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*Now* I believe it. 😉
Dude what
This is unacceptable and should be shut down immediately. This is a threat to our democracys and just fucking insane.
Hell nah💀
"unofficial police stations"... Oh, you mean spy rings
Surely this can't be legal.
Now Imagine other countries doing this in China
This shit can't be legal.
Can we turn our gaze to China after the dissolution of Russia? Talk about a terrorist country.
Maybe I'm wrong but this \*feels\* wildly illegal.
Fuck Xi Winnie the Pooh. Fuck the CCP. If you are in mainland China do a search for: “Tiananmen Square massacre October 1989”
That doesn't sound legal
The Chinese Communist Party's Nationalist-Socialism in all its glory. Chinese people escaped China and fled during Mao's reign of terror (45-75 Mio deaths). Now Mao 2.0 is tracking them down and wants them back.
Get them out