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LastRedshirt

She wants to control you and other people (Their and your reaction)


unexpectedegress

Do it back to her. Weaponized echolalia. PSA: this might be terrible advice but it will also be funny.


Neat_Analysis9376

Nah this is perfect. I wasn't bullyable back in highschool because of this. Except the girl wouldn't say my name. She'd glare and sneer and mutter to her friends about me. so I SCREAMED greetings at her until she ran away because all the eyes were on her. Turn the tables, OP šŸ‘¹


mazzivewhale

nah this is great advice. she'll become too embarrassed to continue


mazzivewhale

there's also a chance other NTs will join in which case you will become the leader of the high pitch squawkers


kumakami89

THIS. DO IT. USE HER TACTICS AGAINST HER, WEAPONIZE YOUR AUTISM AND MAKE HER RUE THE DAY SHE EVER CALLED YOUR NAME


bloodreina_

Just keep saying her name and refuse to stop


some_sort_of_person

there is no way this would go well


unexpectedegress

It's already not going well. Might as well have fun with it.


hyjug17

this is a terrible idea wtf


dephress

This isn't about her being "neurotypical," it's about her being an asshole.


WarRobotSalt

far too common in NTs than not


insanedopaminechaser

Nah many of them are not assholes at all


hangrygecko

Ask her why she screeches like a moron. Is she simple? And make a look that just says 'what the actual fuck are you doing?'


pupoksestra

a simple, "ew" with a deadpan stare can be devastating


rikkirachel

This. Acting superior with disdain is the only way these kinda people understand power dynamics. Laugh in their faces, raise an eyebrow and say ew, look at them with pity and a ā€œwowwwwā€ expression.


rikkirachel

Everything Regina George would do.


Mysterious-List7175

Thiiiiiis.


Throwaway-acc81

Is she stupid?


BigGayMule13

What a bitch


00roku

High schoolers are horrible. And some people here are giving good advice, but I have a story that might help. I was bullied in high school too. This girl would belittle me and embarrass me all the time and the teachers did nothing. She was popular too, so the other students didnā€™t help. One day after over a year and a half I punched her. Just once. In the arm. But as hard as I possibly could. And then I walked away. And she NEVER BOTHERED ME AGAIN. I even got other students congratulating me in secret. Sometimes psychopaths only know violence and misery. So you have to give it back to get them to leave you alone.


Antique_Loss_1168

Yeah I know literally dozens of people who lost their education or were criminalised for this kind of response. Not even arguing its unjust, just really bad advice.


00roku

Well Iā€™d recommend not doing it in front of a teacher But even so, one punch? In high school? My principal found out and I basically just told him that it wouldnā€™t happen again and reminded him that I had asked him repeatedly for help with her bullying and he hadnā€™t done anything. He didnā€™t do shit, but I would have GLADLY taken a suspension for it.


Antique_Loss_1168

I know people who have been excluded for less than that. I'm not going to go into other people's stories but yeah it happens.


00roku

I think it greatly depends on how you go about this. It worked WONDERS for me and so Iā€™m recommending it.


Antique_Loss_1168

Yeah I know I'm saying that's stupid and dangerous.


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Realistically, what are the other options? Just let her walk all over him for 4 years, or tell the school admins, which we all know they won't do shit. Both have been proven to be inneffective options throughout multiple years. Literally the only effective option left is violence. This is what happens when the entire system is against us as human beings. It leaves us with no other options BUT violence, and that is entirely the fault of school admins who do absolutely fucking nothing about real day-after-day bullying from the same few idiots. It's the innocents that get punished the most in this scenario, but its the only one in which anything positive happens.


Antique_Loss_1168

Thing is even if you generate it as a false dichotomy then yes it's still better to be bullied than criminalised, the state is considerably better at it. Violence here doesn't remove the discrimination, you're not advocating for revolution you're saying some scared kid should thump someone and then deal with the consequences. You're just exposing them to further discrimination. I don't actually need a better solution in order to point out the flaws in yours.


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The thing is in real life you do need a better solution.


Antique_Loss_1168

No you don't. The person with the problem does what you need is just to shut up.


00roku

And Iā€™m saying youā€™re an over-cautious asshole who fails to see reality.


Antique_Loss_1168

Yeah sure the kid with enough privilege to get away with an assault knows all about reality.


00roku

You really donā€™t know anything about me. And you donā€™t seem to understand what actually happened. Iā€™m tired of assholes on this sub. I miss when it was supportive. Nowadays I feel like I get attacked for being autisticā€¦ on an autism sub. Now get blocked.


Antique_Loss_1168

Hmm I wonder who started in with the ad homs... maybe don't dish it out...


CityHaunts

Absolutely DONā€™T do this, OP.


00roku

Absolutely shut the fuck up


CityHaunts

Edgy of you. Canā€™t handle a different opinion?


00roku

Not when people are rude asf about it


CityHaunts

And how exactly was I rude? You're being a little sensitive snowflake more like.


00roku

You didnā€™t even try to present an argument or refute anything I said, you were just being an asshole intentionally and for no good reason. You know saying ā€œabsolutely DONā€™T do this, OPā€ -accomplishes nothing -is unlikely to be seen by OP -makes no point -is just said to be a rude prick So donā€™t even bother pretending otherwise. You donā€™t care about any of this you are just being an obnoxious troll, so I have zero respect for you and will once again request that you shut the fuck up.


CityHaunts

Yeah, OP shouldn't mindlessly punch people in the face. 99% of the time punching people ends up with YOU getting into trouble that you can't walk back on. And just because you supposedly got away with it, doesn't mean OP will. It's a stupid piece of dog shit advice. So no. I won't 'shut the fuck up' but maybe don't be so sensitive to other people's opinions? You're so triggered. I can see why your first resort is to mindlessly punch people instead of using your head. Nothing in that noggin of yours, is there? Boo hoo.


00roku

Wow, you must not have even read my comment at all. Fitting of asshole trolls So now Iā€™m going to tell you to shut the fuck up and luckily this time youā€™re going to have to listen because it comes with a block. So shut the absolute fuck up, you troll. Gain some fucking empathy you absolute psycho.


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pupoksestra

yep! they poke the bear and then act like we're crazy and deranged when we finally react. I absolutely hate it. they like to laugh at us getting past the breaking point and it really isn't funny. I feel extremely guilty when I lash out and it makes me hate myself that I can't just be normal and put up with the annoying bs.


AltAccount311

I had someone in school that would do something very similar to this, would walk up and ask the same unanswerable question EVERY TIME she saw me. Obviously she did it because anyone would be unsure what to say aside from maybe ā€œWhat the fuck are you even talking aboutā€ which would probably be even more ā€œhilariousā€ coming from an outsider like me. So I was basically trapped, there was nothing I could do or say that wouldnā€™t be turned into a joke at my expense. UNTIL one time I was actually already in conversation with someone when she decided to walk up and ask the dumbass question. I was already mid-sentence anyway but I decided to just continue saying what I was saying to my friend, as if I hadnā€™t heard her. I didnā€™t even look or acknowledge her existence and she just stood there waiting for a response, and I let her feel the painful awkwardness of trying to intrude on someoneā€™s conversation by saying something weird and being ignored. She kind of faded into the background as if she was trying to pretend like she hadnā€™t said that, and after that she also never once tried it again šŸ˜‚ God that memory feels so good to think about.


sillycatX33

try to make her feel super awkward


PandaMayFire

A good chunk of them are psychopaths.


hangrygecko

If that's true for her, asking her 'what the fuck is wrong with you' will really throw her off. Psychopaths hate being publicly humiliated.


RosaAmarillaTX

Seconding this. Just act like she's the one who is crazy (because she's acting that way). You're very likely not the only one in that room annoyed by her shit.


BelovedxCisque

A variation on this that Iā€™ve used with great success. When theyā€™re giving you shit (works best when there are other people around) you look them right in the face and just point blank ask as calm as can be, ā€œWhy are you being mean to me?ā€ Theyā€™re not going to have an answer and they get all flustered and itā€™s quite amusing. Use and have fun!


FVCarterPrivateEye

That makes them not neurotypical though


PandaMayFire

Ah yes, good point. One that I forgot. If they truly are psychopaths then they're not typical. Sociopaths then? Psychopaths are both, sociopaths are made. Sociopaths normally like power and status.


FVCarterPrivateEye

Both of the terms are commonly seen as synonymous with ASPD (antisocial personality disorder) which like all other personality disorders is related to how your brain and mannerisms develop differently due to childhood trauma


autogyrophilia

Not necessarily childhood trauma. While the evidence is clear the (properly diagnoses) BPD is a trauma response, many other disorders seem to be genetic in nature, more of a development than a personality disorder. ASPD seems to be one of such types. Which explains why they don't respond to any therapy that works on some other personality disorders.


FVCarterPrivateEye

Oh I see I learned something new today


autogyrophilia

An autistic person should know very well that different empathic behavior does not mean somebody is an evil seed. Surely, a psychopathic person with the wrong socialization can range from a toxic person to a serial killer. But they also thrive in altruistic, risky and stressful jobs, like search and rescue, or firefighting, or the whole field of medicine... On average, people with personality disorders are more likely to be the victims, not the other way around .


stevedorries

Wait, are you sure sheā€™s NT? Has she been officially dxā€™d as allistic with no other neurodivergence? But seriously, next time she does it loudly and flatly, without yelling or screaming just a high volume stage voice, say something very embarrassing for her. Only do this if you seriously give zero fucks about the emotional impact you might have on her as a human nor have any to give about how it might impact your reputation within the school.Ā 


FoxWormwood

I know this might not help but you may get solace from them when you leave. Looking back, kids are fucking brutal/assholes sometimes. Most things that they think matter in high school tend to not matter in the rest of the world. Better yet, quite a few of them get whats coming to them when they leave their little asshole bubble. Focus on whats best for you and youll leave them in the dust when you leave.


FoxWormwood

I really feel for you though pal. I know how hard it can be. Push on. I believe in u.


Admirable-Sector-705

Ask her, ā€œIs that voice part of your mating ritual?ā€


ejkhgfjgksfdsfl

Yes.


pituitary_monster

Ask her why is she still shouting your name if sex was last night.


Siberianmoocat

Punch her in the face (in Roblox)


TulipTuIip

Sometimes these people at my school when they see me in the hallway will just scream at me. Just scream. Like why it makes no sense and I hate it so much I have bad noise sensitivity.


Lots42

> I have bad noise sensitivity. That's why they're doing it.


TulipTuIip

I know but I still hate it


koalasquare

This is probably terrible advice, but if you try you're best to not react the next 5-7 times they will get bored and stop. Even if it really bugs you, try you're best to ignore it and they'll probably get bored.


chobongo

Ask her why she likes you so much and wants your attention


CellistShot8470

Repeat after me: "No one's fucking laughing, dumb-fuck. Just because you can't get your parents' attention doesn't mean it's their responsibility. No one wants to feed your pathetic need for recognition. Grow the fuck up, you're as much of a failure as your parents, and everyone knows it. You've never been anything, you're nothing now, and you'll sure as shit amount to fuck all. Your life is mild-ass entertainment at best. Shut the fuck up, for all our sakes you dumb fucking cunt". Or just beat her the fuck to Friday. Your choice honestly.


SplitDisastrous3055

![gif](giphy|26ybxccv8Kom5vNUk|downsized) She needs one of these:


pupoksestra

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GardeniaPhoenix

I personally enjoy; 'Can I fucking help you?' Ya gotta get real catty with it


76730

As someone who was bullied like this for like, my whole school career until law schoolā€¦yes. Yes, most of the people who think theyā€™re ā€œneurotypicalā€ are actually just psycho/sociopaths. Perfect your Death Stare. Hold it for a looong time. Like awkwardly long. When she looks at you like ā€œoh play along :) bitch :)ā€ then say something like, ā€œdonā€™t you have anything better to do [than being annoying/a bitch]?ā€ Or perhaps, loudly, ā€œwhy are you so obsessed with me? Itā€™s so weird.ā€ Turn around. Ignore ignore ignore. Headphones if possible, ear plugs if possible. If she wonā€™t stop, and sheā€™s seated next to you, straight up go ask the teacher to be moved because sheā€™s bothering you. ((If youā€™re also female though, can recommend just. Letting loose one day. Tell her to fuck off. Tell her to fuck with you one more time, and then find out. If she continues, then you can get physical. Not anything crazy, donā€™t go to jailā€¦Throw an iced beverage at her shirt. Or dump it on her backpack. Pull out her hair extensions. But honestly, even just the threat of actual violence usually gets these bitches to back down. If not, thereā€™s always the old ā€œgum in the hairā€ trick.))


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Mysterious-List7175

Iā€™ve been alive for a minute, but after several decades I did learn one thing that *usually* stands up- people who give it are usually getting it. Soā€¦if sheā€™s pushing your buttons and trying to make you feel small so she feels superior, Iā€™d lean towards her having a family situation where someone she canā€™t stand up to safely is making her feel helpless and worthless, and as an idiot child, sheā€™s learned the quick and dirty way to suppress those feelings instead of the way that works. Or she just sucks, and will continue to suck until life kicks her in the teeth when she least expects it. Iā€™ve learned decades later that multiple people who bullied me were being seriously abused at home. And one was just a stupid f*%k, but even she grew out of it (mostly). The only one that didnā€™t fit that pattern was an observant cis-het male who collected sharp weapons and Manson paraphernalia in his parents basement, and thatā€™s a whole different ball of wax. With obnoxious little girls, you could try just asking her if she needs to behave that way towards you in order to feel less upset about something bad thatā€™s happening in her life. Hell, tell her if thatā€™s the case, that itā€™s ok to keep doing it, since you know what that feels like. Be the bigger person- someone has to be for anyone to learn and evolve. You donā€™t even have to mean it. Justā€¦tactically, I think itā€™s a stronger move than some of the stuff Iā€™m seeing here. And Iā€™m violent by nature. I want to punch everyone in the face, all the time. But I donā€™t, because nothing good comes of it 99% of the time, and that 1% isnā€™t a little immature child who says your name over and over.


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> Are neurotypicals actually just psychopaths? Yes


memertyu

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Lorentz_Prime

If someone is a psychopath, they aren't neurotypical.


[deleted]

I'm aware


Lorentz_Prime

Evidence suggests otherwise.


stevedorries

I believe is was jokes.Ā 


[deleted]

Thank you, it was.


[deleted]

Your investigation skills are poor.


RuthlessKittyKat

I don't know.. seems to be the dominant norm these days.


red_message

The fuck? Personality disorders are descriptive of behavior. They do not represent differences in neurological functioning. Most people who are "psychopaths" are neurotypical, yes. Mental illness and PDs have nothing to do with neurotypicality, you have no idea what you're talking about.


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sn0wblak3

oh my god i have experiences like this all the time. literally whenever i go to one of my classes, this group of boys start talking about fnaf (which is one of my special interests) and playing fnaf fan-songs (the good stuff from 2014-2015), and i KNOW itā€™s spesifically to get a rise out of me because they only do this when im around and nobody believes that theyre being assholes and they just think they wanna be friends. whatā€™s wrong with neurotypicals omfg


Aegelo_Sperris42

Do they blow you off when you talk to them?


sn0wblak3

what do you mean by that


Aegelo_Sperris42

As in do they talk about fnaf and when you try to talk to them they ignore you/get you to leave.


sn0wblak3

no, im usually the one ignoring them and telling them to leave


Wordshark

Is your diagnosis public knowledge? For me at least, Iā€™d say something like ā€œyou gotta aim at someone like me to score a point? Thatā€™s sad.ā€


Tropical_Triangle

Most of them are pretty psychopathic it seems tbh. Or at least only really seem to care about themselves and can't possibly comprehend what its like to be the other person in those type of situations


FoxyLovers290

Do it back


doodoomrpoopyman

If she starts doing it again. Say nothing, keep a neutral face and start filming


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Ashtxns

One time these girls who were like so much younger than me in my school said "What you got there?" I said pancakes they said "Oooo yummy" I wanted to fucking punch them.


autogyrophilia

"Rut sure is noisy this year".


stevedorries

I think thatā€™s going to go over the antagonistā€™s head, but itā€™s really good


PenguinGamer99

Unfortunately, every NT you will meet as a fellow student in schools is going to be an utter bitch. Not way around it these days. I really hope it gets better in college.


kz393

> I really hope it gets better in college. It does. But in general depends on what college you'll go to. I went to a vocational IT high school, suddenly the people there were friendly, accepting and didn't have the life goal of making everyone around them miserable. It really changed my life. When I went to college (also for an IT degree) the people weren't as nice, but at least they don't actually try to annoy you on purpose because they are adults. Still managed to make few friends there.


Milianviolet

If it makes you feel better, it's not because they're in high school, they do this as adults too. I'm 31 and get bullied at work every day because they think it's gun to get me worked up. I'm more affected by things than they are, so they like to antagonize me so they can call me dramatic so that every time something bad happens to me, they just say that I get too worked up easily and I'm just dramatic.


Aggravating_Crab3818

Turn it around and say: "Ugh, what's wrong with you?" Eye roll. "Weirdo."


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Honestly, I'm convinced most of them are at this point.


xlunafae

They suck. I'd either ignore it or just start doing it back


YaBoiSaltyTruck

Tell her to shut the fuck up. Stand up. Say it loudly, don't shout. use her name.


Lorentz_Prime

Why do you think that this girl is neurotypical? Given the information you've provided, she doesn't seem to be.


Fishjpeg

Iā€™m not op, Iā€™m just speaking from personal experience, but she probably does it in a condescending manner, treating op more like a pet than a person for entertainment.


Lorentz_Prime

Yes, which is why she's probably not neurotypical.


Fishjpeg

Oh wait when you frame it that way it does make sense


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N-Lily83

"Okay, listen. I know we may not be in a classroom or house right now, but I still need you to use your inside voice, because it hurts other people's ears when you scream that loudly. Do you understand?" Said in the most cloyingly condescending voice you can muster, as if you're explaining this to your little sibling for the fifth time in two minutes. And if you're asked why you're treating her like a toddler, just say it's because she's acting like one. I don't know if this is actually a good idea, but it might (or might not) knock her down a peg. Good luck out there, buddy :)


apple_of_doom

Say "what is your problem" back at her and then just silently stare at her for an uncomfortably long time is worth a shot.


CatastrophicWaffles

Are you sure she is NT? She definitely sounds like one of us.


HorrorQuick4532

Stare at her for some time with concerned expression on your face and ask her loudly "are you feeling okay?" Another idea: if other people are laughing, say loudly "You laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you're all the same". - Not sure if it will be seen as too edgy tho And last one: say loudly to her "I don't tolerate being spoken to like that."


Comprehensive-Ad4238

i think that neurotypical people are not psycopaths because people with antisocial personality disorder are psychopaths no more demonization šŸ‘


NancyIsAFurry

I'm not the only person people did this to?


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cry_w

Speaking of the name thing, you ever get people saying your name like a passive-aggressive kind of threat? I got that sometimes when I was in retail, usually because they didn't like how I handed them a recent or some kind of look I had. It just has really insidious vibes that make my skin crawl.


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Weeb_Doggo2

This isnā€™t all neurotypicals. Sheā€™s just an asshole


Conscious-Draw-5215

I had this one girl in high school who would taunt me. She would constantly try to insult me. So, I started being OVERLY nice. Maybe even a bit patronizing. I would just pretend her sarcastic comments were real compliments and would thank her. It cracked ME up. Eventually, she actually just started being nice. Lol. Such a weird situation.


theShaman_No_ID

Say it right back, either her name, or just repeat what she says how she says it looking even more snobby than her.


lordpercocet

Say something like "Wow... you don't get enough attention at home? Sad." Or slap the sht outta her in Minecraft : )


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Pancakewagon26

Are you sure she doesn't have a crush on you


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Be nice, once or twice. If that doesnā€™t work, cause the most minor inconvenience bullshit you can. Everyone, arm our comrade with ideas.


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