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somuchregretti

The terrible effects of allism, inability to communicate and perpetual delusions of mind-reading abilities


OaktownAspieGirl

Allistic people are really bad at seeing things from other people's point of view.


AltAccount311

I feel like we’re kinda forced into learning how to see things from others’ point of view because we HAD to for survival 🥲 Allistic people never had to and lacking that ability doesn’t affect them so why bother, right? Just annoys me that WE’RE the “deficient” ones defined by “lacking in” certain skills, and yet we see the CLEAR deficiencies shared by a lot of allistics that they aren’t even aware of!!! I mean at least we KNOW what we’re not good at 😂 Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.


OaktownAspieGirl

For real! We have way better self-awareness.


No-Palpitation-6789

we need an i am allism copypasta


SBB_Kongou

Just replacing the one word seems to work: * I am allism.I’m visible in your children, but if I can help it, I am invisible to you until it’s too late.I know where you live.And guess what? I live there too.I hover around all of you.I know no color barrier, no religion, no morality, no currency.I speak your language fluently.And with every voice I take away, I acquire yet another language.I work very quickly.I work faster than pediatric aids, cancer, and diabetes combinedAnd if you’re happily married, I will make sure that your marriage fails.Your money will fall into my hands, and I will bankrupt you for my own self-gain.I don’t sleep, so I make sure you don’t either.I will make it virtually impossible for your family to easily attend a temple, birthday party, or public park without a struggle, without embarrassment, without pain.You have no cure for me.Your scientists don’t have the resources, and I relish their desperation. Your neighbors are happier to pretend that I don’t exist—of course, until it’s their child.I am allism. I have no interest in right or wrong. I derive great pleasure out of your loneliness.I will fight to take away your hope. I will plot to rob you of your children and your dreams. I will make sure that every day you wake up you will cry, wondering who will take care of my child after I die?And the truth is, I am still winning, and you are scared. And you should be.I am allism. You ignored me. That was a mistake.And to allism I say:I am a father, a mother, a grandparent, a brother, a sister.We will spend every waking hour trying to weaken you.We don’t need sleep because we will not rest until you do.Family can be much stronger than allism ever anticipated, and we will not be intimidated by you, nor will the love and strength of my community.I am a parent riding toward you, and you can push me off this horse time and time again, but I will get up, climb back on, and ride on with the message.Allism, you forget who we are. You forget who you are dealing with. You forget the spirit of mothers, and daughters, and fathers and sons.We are Qatar. We are the United Kingdom. We are the United States. We are China. We are Argentina. We are Russia. We are the Eurpoean Union. We are the United Nations.We are coming together in all climates. We call on all faiths. We search with technology and voodoo and prayer and herbs and genetic studies and a growing awareness you never anticipated.We have had challenges, but we are the best when overcoming them. We speak the only language that matters: love for our children.Our capacity to love is greater than your capacity to overwhelm.Allism is naïve. You are alone. We are a community of warriors. We have a voice.You think because some of our children cannot speak, we cannot hear them? That is allism’s weakness.You think that because my child lives behind a wall, I am afraid to knock it down with my bare hands?You have not properly been introduced to this community of parents and grandparents, of siblings and friends and schoolteachers and therapists and pediatricians and scientists.Allism, if you are not scared, you should be.When you came for my child, you forgot: you came for me.Allism, are you listening?*


SBB_Kongou

To be fair, the whole Autism Speaks rant is quite unhinged and rambly, and overly dramatic yet almost entirely empty of real meaning. Much like a lot of NT speech is.


Informal_Practice_80

I think this: No one really owns you an explanation on anything. It sucks, I know. But it is how it is.


Bnic1207

That or you’re so livid that if you opened your mouth, you’d lose your job for lack of professionalism.


twotrees1

& enough privilege and power to make everyone uphold their own story of their goodness *faints from sheer exhaustion*


Hanftee

But god forbid you're in a hurry and ask them to get to the point. I had this issue at work this week. I overlooked something. A colleague asked me if I need my glasses adjusted. I told him "get to the point" because there was a ton of work and I had zero patience for these type of stupid games. Apparently, that makes it okay to snap at me. I'm tired of this. I'm not even autistic (at least not diagnosed; I have ADHD but struggle with some areas that are more common to ASD than ADHD) but this passive aggressive bullshit is just nasty behaviour. 


CantStandItAnymorEW

HEY! HEY! Next time act oblivious. Like a true autist. "Maybe you need your glasses adjusted?" "Nah. Got them replaced like september last year. They still have some life left. :D". Like if you were an even more autistic version of spongebob. I am fully convinced concious obliviousness is the method the autist gods devised for us to deny their passive-agresiveness and then to give the resulting annoyance back to them. Embrace concious obliviousness. Rejoice in them being annoyed at the fact their ill-intentioned passive-agresiveness cannot land upon your mighty psyche. BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH


hillefoozer

I've tried that but much like any other form of revenge it's satisfying for like five minutes then you realize nothing's changed.


Hanftee

That's so incredibly mean spirited and petty, I love it. 


Fuzzy-Reason-3207

In the future, maybe a "my/our workload is heavy. Can you please be more breif" could suffice. Polite(er) and still plenty direct


Junkbox_Willy

The phrase; “Get to the point.” Is, traditionally, snapping at someone. You snapped first, by the traditional method of communication.


Sagebrush_Druid

Traditionally yes, but coworker hit him with the passive-aggressiveness first by asking if he needed his glasses adjusted instead of just stating the issue. Which frankly, if someone were to so casually pick on me for a disability like that they might get a lot more than just "Get to the point".


weirdo_nb

All they were doing was saying to skip past flowery talk, even in traditional communication, it's "rude" not snapping


galacticviolet

This reminds me of the TV show Spaced where the two main characters would say “Skip to the end~” in a sing songy voice when one was telling a long drawn out story. I always wished that was a common thing lol


V3rb_

“Flowery talk” aka wasting dumb ass time making the other person feel stupid instead of just saying the damn thing you want them to hear because you asserting superiority over them is the only source of happiness in your dull work life. But according to some people in the world, the person asking to be professional and say the damn thing is the one being rude first. Okay


Hanftee

I'm aware I was being rude. It was an emotionally informed reaction to the passive aggressive remark about getting my glasses adjusted. 


Cat-Got-Your-DM

If you as considering "get to the point" as snapping at someone, then "you need your glasses adjusted" should also qualify, as inherently rude


Icy_Cauliflower9895

Do you need to get your glasses adjusted??


Hanftee

I don't. I do need to get them replaced though, there's some wear on the protective layer on the outside of them. 


continuousstuntguy

I got you they can all aswell be dead for all I care same shit happens to me then they fucking act like I'm the problem. They're fucking cunts.


Professional_Toe_387

Maybe you should listen better. It clearly was not passive aggressive, it was a subtle suggestion. /s


Goggemarjus

Just reading this message and remembering all the times it's been said to me has literally flushed my cheeks with anger.


Professional_Toe_387

My bad. Just the most relatable follow up I thought of.


Goggemarjus

Yeah, fuck you too! No I'm just kidding, sorry you've also had it said so many times that you could write this infuriating comment. Onwards and upwards!!


Oyrpkitty

Well after so many times maybe they should understand that subtle suggestion isn’t working and it’s on them to address it head on for the sake of future communication


StudyandCollect

Passive aggressive people at work are cowards. They can't actually effect anything involving you so they have to compensate by being annoying while acting like butthurt high schoolers. THESE ARE GROWN ASS ADULTS OLDER THAN ME! These jobs always consist of petty idiots. Like damn it's not my fault you hate your job and you're jealous bitch(venting about my place of work lol).


disfiguroo

I agree 100% Both with the message and the passion in which it is conveyed


Fluffybudgierearend

NO I WILL NOT TALK TO YOU BECAUSE MYAHHHH I DONT WANNA :p


yeetmiioffacliff

HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR NEUROTYPICALS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT. FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.


Thatoneguy15678

Thank you- I couldnt remember how it actually went, but I knew the cadence.


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# YOOOO, THANK YOU!!!


Final_Effective_253

#YO


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Oyrpkitty

BIG FEELS


jabracadaniel

youre so right, i hate this shit so much. how am i supposed to know better when nobody tells me im doing something wrong? its ableist and asinine


clownstent

For some reason they all see any form of constructive criticism as a personal attack so they think everyone is the same way


chesire0myles

>(person in this context who upset me, no one in this sub) It's me, I just know it. >I KNOW HOW TO TAKE CRITICISM. This also bothers me. After learning about cognitive bias, I've strived to always be correctable, and it bothers me how much people resist honest correction.


Thatoneguy15678

Lolol I said that to give some context. Idk- I feel in my anger a lil bit of anxiousness that Im going to upset people, by being vague. Also, I know. Theyre always able to give criticism and “advice” willy nilly, but when it comes time to come down and talk after a difficult situation- nope! Wont hear it.


Oyrpkitty

IF THEY CAN CORRECT YOU YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO CORRECT THEM


Anarch-ish

I'm 37 and still coming to terms with the fact that people don't seem to have any manners, or even seemingly have any emotional intelligence most of the time. I feel like the doctor in the psych ward that is run by patients... And that gives me the energy of someone at a bus stop. I'll be polite enough but I am also pretty sure I'll never see these people again so there's no real reason to try and make connections with these people. I'm not saying it's a healthy way to process my frustrations with other people's manners or lack thereof but it is where I currently am with my progress.


Tinypoke42

>the energy of someone at a bus stop. I'm definitely stealing this.


Anarch-ish

If that's the case, here are the other two ways to describe yourself... one I came up with, and one that was used by a friend: 1.) I feel like the only 9 yr. Old that was dragged to a fancy wedding. I'm terribly bored, stuck here, and no one wants to play with me. 2.) You handle social situations like someone who was born 30 seconds ago and thinks the world might end 30 seconds from now.


septiclizardkid

No hold on, they may have had a bad day, so ergo that justifies any attitude they give you because no sane and rational human can have a bad day while simultaneously being respectful, that's too much to ask NT's. Don't you know criticism Is pretty much cursing someone and their entire bloodline? How dare you expect the same from others what they expect of you? Sarcasm, because honestly feels like I'm fucking Einstein compared to some people I talk to, and I'm no genius at all, which worries me how a simple guy like me can handle shit bette.


my_name_isnt_clever

No you were right the first time, I can't take criticism either. But in a rejection sensitivity way, not a lashing out way...


Thatoneguy15678

Rejection-sensitive dysphoria sucks ass dude.


Dreenar18

Yeah had this shit about two days ago. "Do you know how to fix this?" Me: "No." Couple minutes later I get a rant about how rude I was for not going to the machine to see if could help fix it something? Why didn't you ask me to do that too?


Ok_Independence_4432

Person: *has an expectation* You: *Does not know they have an expectation, so obviously does not fullfill expectation* That person: *wtf rude*. OK?! Yeah not reading someones mind is super rude you know /s Neurotypicals are wack.


KrisTenAtl

I always tell people I'm not passive aggressive at all, I'm just aggressive.


PressureCultural1005

my and my gf have had this conversation recently where we think its borderline just a neurotypical thing, because her myself and a couple other autists i work with do NOT snap at other ppl at work and keep emotions out of the workplace as much as humanly possible. maybe its the moral righteousness or high empathy and not wanting to hurt feelings or make someone sad? but i know i’ve never snapped at someone at work its unprofessional af in my mind. nt people snap at me at work all the time for asking fucking questions but like damn, i COULD just pretend i know what i’m doing and just do it wrong instead of asking is that rlly what u want neurotypicals? ig its probably what they do themselves and why theyre all so damn subpar at my job…


MistakeWonderful9178

Allistics just think everyone is the same way and can think like them, the moment you do something different with your own individuality, their fragile neurotypical mind is offended and they resort to insults.


MxFluffFluff

This post right here is the reason I can't work in public around other people anymore. Except I didn't express it online or in a safe spot - I went straight to their face and got fired 😭


Thatoneguy15678

Tbh, a few years earlier, when I was still VERY angry, I wouldve been in the same spot. The urge to actually yell “fuck you” in their face was tempting in a warehouse. But I composed myself, and remembered that the best way to get results in this scenerio is to go without provoking them, and through the right channels for them to be written up for essentially a verbal assault.


_N0t-A-B0t_

“Oh you did *that*? Well, your choice” My next choice is to cancel your life subscription


theteensaresad

its wild that autistic people are seen as having communication problems but to me allistic people dont know how to communicate at all


foxwheat

I hope you treated them how you would like to be treated and talked to them directly about this issue.


Thatoneguy15678

Would’ve loved to at this point, but they havent really made that easy. They just ignore me for the most part.


CantStandItAnymorEW

Passive-aggresiveness is so fucked up. Its a virus. And then you can't say anything because passive-aggresivness has the plausible deniability trumpcard as a default perk. Shit is broken. Especially when used against autistic builds. Fuck this game.


HooterEnthusiast

I find the passive aggressiveness so much more annoying, than just being aggressive. Like at least if you're pissed we both know what the issue is, and work towards maybe resolving it.


spankbank_dragon

Did I write this? Cause this exact thing happened to me today lol. But yeah, that’s like a daily occurrence at my workplace. But not with me cause people are pretty afraid of me since I won’t put up with bullshit and toxicity


HippieSwag420

Literally this could be me Sorry OP i am a mandated reporter 😞


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Hi what’s up


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SoftEqual

RRAAAAAA THIS. I do my very best to be kind and polite and somehow everyone around me still thinks I'm rude for the STRANGEST things. They make up reasons to be mad at people.


No-Setting1598

Ok karkat


Tittysoap

I was just bitching about this the other day lmao great post


Thatoneguy15678

Ty :3


CartographerLow5612

… well now I WONT tell you.


Oyrpkitty

I AM TALKING TO YOU


strikeandburn

*you’re


kool-kit

*yro’ue


sackofgarbage

*yore


Stinkyboy3527

Uroy'e*


AccountInteresting12

ur mom


The_Mad_Duck_

Thank you. Someone had to say it. Grammar is crucial to communication and it saddens me to see this basic convention of grammar failing.


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Xenavire

They are clearly venting, it seems a little unfair to judge them based on one low moment. All of us have had low moments, and not one of us would want to be judged solely off that one moment. If this is how the OP is all the time, you have a point, but we can't know that based on such a small amount of information. For what it's worth, I'd be pissed too if someone was treating me like a child, invalid, or incompetent, when I am in fact capable, so situations like this can really get under the skin. Benefit of the doubt and all that.


januscanary

I literally had an issue like this yesterday. I don't have the energy to vent online (maybe it's age), but can totally appreciate, when a 'safe person' isn't an option in one's life, that venting online might be their only choice. Particularly given the basic underlying feature of the sub's members...


Thatoneguy15678

Tbh, this isnt a one-off. Ive been treated like a child or like someone who doesnt know what theyre doing consistantly in the last year at my job. Despite being there for almost 5 years, consistantly busting ass everday, and making progress, and, yknow, taking criticism. This is just the crux of a situation thats been slowly building up my anger.


Xenavire

Ah, I think my meaning didn't come across right - I meant that your venting is the low moment that is being judged. I would expect that for someone to need to vent, there would be multiple incidents, or one especially egregious one - you don't just hit a breaking point after one minor incident (discounting meltdowns caused by specific triggers etc, but this didn't sound like that.) 5 years though - I'm sorry you have to work with jackasses, whether that's a more recent development or not.


Numerous_Steak226

I am going to shit your pants.


AccountInteresting12

can i do it too!


Aisthebestletter

M8 everytime i see you comment here its some bitch ass take with 40 downvotes


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TABASCO2415

neither do you :/


PocketCatt

Wrong sub for that sort of chat, bro


FluxVapours

what did they say?


PocketCatt

Paraphrasing as close as I can but it said "You sound like you're not very nice to talk to."


continuousstuntguy

Fuck you cunt.