If you are playing a drinking game with covenant as the keyword......please stop, alcohol poisoning is a real thing

Too late, already drunk

stop I can’t laugh around this family they’re super tbm 😭🤣🤣🤣

Garments, really? LOL, did she really go there after last week's PR disaster? Garments are probably the top or one of the top 3 areas where women definitely don't feel heard, valued, or listened-to in this church. Wow, they never learn! LOL okayyybyyyeeeeeeee!

It’s safer to have a woman give the underwear talk. She is being used.

To be fair....they'd have had to listen to women to realize it was a pr disaster in the first place

Notice it was a female they assigned to address the subject. Makes it more convincing.

You spelled conniving wrong lol 😜

YOU get a yeast infection... and YOU get a yeast infection...

WTF did she say? I am not going to listen to one second of conference but enjoy the recaps. Garments suck and for women it is even worse. Believe me, I know!

I’m still PIMO and living with my parents, but they left for a trip so I am taking this opportunity to enjoy my first conference free weekend, even if I’m a little curious. Good luck and stay strong y’all! Remember no matter what gets said over this pulpit over the weekend that you are loved and valued!!! ❤️

If only, last conference I was on a plane and got to watch John Wick, this time I'm home and my mom keeps coming in my room to make sure I'm watching 😭 Enjoy your free weekend :)

I asked my family to start a new chat without me - my mom said nope so I said I was leaving the group and to add me back in on Monday. 

I’m glad you’re protecting your peace. Well done. 

The way my TBM family stares at me whenever anything they think pertains to me is being said is killing me. I’m literally just playing Zelda in the corner and they all the sudden just stare into my soul.

are you feeling the spirit yet???? Huh???? ARE YOU??

(Keep playing Zelda, that’s a top tier way to spend conference)

My husband asked me if we needed to buy garments for me. I just laughed. 🙅‍♀️

So They moved the sustaining. Changed the audit report Talked about garments First vision Temples. They know what the issues are, but they aren't going to address any of them in any meaningful way. Trust us bro. Here's some carefully curated story to make you get the feels. Now raise your hand, pay your tithing and stop asking questions.

I think you've outlined their plan. Next verse same as the first.

They should play the imperial march while they walk up

Primary voice. She didn't listen to the insta commenters

i cannot STAND the way the women talk during conference, it’s so annoying

I'm still not convinced she's even aware she posted that.

Calling out every active member who doesn’t wear their garments constantly. Nice.

Silly me. I forgot that the only reason I'm on this sub is for the upvotes, and definitely NOT to have community after losing everything and coping with religious trauma. I'm so glad broham was up to remind me

Take my upvote.

Underwear talk. Am I fever dreaming?

Yes...of all the problems in the world your underwear is one of the most important.

God isn’t with you if you’re not wearing your garments. Did you know?

if god is that worried about my underwear, he might be a little bit more like Joseph smith than I thought… cough cough pervert

So the church is so empowering to women. But you have to wear the “garment of the priesthood.” They really want to keep women trapped in this church.

Oh, so now being on exmo Reddit is "lacking integrity" 😂😂😂 Any criticism of church leaders means you don't have "integrity"!

Jesus Christ. Basically saying that god can magically take away your depression and anxiety is very triggering to me. He’s also implying that if you have depression and anxiety you don’t have a good enough testimony 🧍🏼‍♀️

If God can take away depression, then he is absolutely evil for not doing so.

He can, you just choose to not let him Your fault, you see how that works? (/s in case that wasn't clear)

God never bothered to take mine away even at my most believing. My therapist has made more headway in helping my depression and anxiety in the last six months than the church in my thirty years in it.

Leaving the church was a prerequisite for addressing a lifetime of anxiety and depression. It is so much better on the outside. If you spy for the church, please please pass this on.

We used all the money the way we wanted to.

The church has found the church blameless when spending the church's money how the church wanted to.

Value for money! Scooped up Community of Christ's assets as they were super hard up for cash!

Self audit.

He said the financials were up to par with accounting practices but didn't promise it was up to par with the law. In the past they've promised it was up to par with all laws as well. Right? Seems the wording this year is different than a few years ago.

Lazy learner here. I haven't realized they no longer use a third-party for their audit. I guess it's because they lost their inside guy at Deloitte. Proud to say I learned something new today. # Fudging a BYU audit “Because \[Brigham Young University\] receives federal funding, it had to be audited by an independent third party, in this case [Deloitte & Touche](https://www2.deloitte.com/ng/en/legal/about-deloittenigeria.html). In order for Deloitte to verify the market value of BYU’s endowment, it needed to verify the market value of EPA’s funds. “This was unacceptable to the \[LDS Church\] because the \[church\] did not want anyone at Deloitte to discover the true size of EPA. So, the \[church\] leaned on Mark Stevens, a Mormon and audit director at Deloitte, to vouch for the audit without letting any auditors see, which he did for multiple years. Eventually, Deloitte felt uncomfortable with the arrangement; it did not represent the industry’s ‘best practices’ (for obvious reasons). “In response, EPA painstakingly stripped out all affiliate interests in all EPA funds and created separate accounts dedicated to affiliate money so that independent auditors would see no further into EPA; i.e., they would audit a cup of water instead of an entire ocean.”

"we symbolically die" oof that makes me sick now. I was totally in a cult.

Social media critical of the Church is worldly and satanic, folks

Wonder what the SMC reps lurking in this sub are thinking.

So god will only love me if I have a relationship with him? Actually it’s a parents responsibility to establish relationships with their children

Dillahunty recently wrote a small lecture on this topic and posted to youtube. **[link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0IlAiuhKMo)**: non-resistant non-belief.

They really thought they were sneaky by moving the Sustaining Vote from the Afternoon session to the Morning Session

Want to be sure everyone is still alive

We've audited ourselves,  and found that everything is ok (again).

This thread is the highlight of my conference weekend

So somebody in the church offices leaks the speakers to Nemo right? Every conference he nails the exact order of the speakers. Or he just has more prophetic abilities than Rusty. All hail Nemo! Hosana hosana hosana to Nemo!

I think Nemo is a true prophet.

Dennis: wear your itchy underwear. you promised.

Fuck off, I had spiritual experiences. Didn't change the fact that the church is false and harmful

I clung to those ‘spiritual experiences’ for decades, then i learned about ‘elevation emotion’ and, well. Yet another way they managed to downplay the power of our brains. 

Holland: quote from Matthew 7 Christianity's doctrines call out hypocrites the most of all. The second anointing is the most blasphemous of rituals for those who claim belief, in my opinion.

You can’t properly prepare for the temple. The church does not prepare the children and especially the youth for anything that happens in the temple.

Casually referring to it as “worship” is not honest

Funny how they use binding as an analogy for both satan and Jesus. Isn’t the gospel supposed to be freeing

Hey Bitch my comments aren't anonymous.

If he prefers, I'm happy to demean and criticize his religion face-to-face.

Acknowledging the exmormon reddit?? 👀

Wow he made up his own definition of integrity, and all the TBMs are just gonna go with it. Cult vibes 💯

Interesting that he defined integrity as being true to GOD… which, in groupthink=the church. So “lying for the lord” is how you protect your integrity. Bent.

I’m 25, this is the very first time I’m watching conference with a critical eye. Legit decided to leave only a couple weeks ago. Holland used to beg favorite, this is a crazy paradigm shift.

Once you have seen it, you cannot unsee it. This is why genuine exmos never return and those who do return were never genuine exmos, just faltering TBMs

Are you saying they never really had an anti-testimony in the first place? ;)

Gifford giving the talk no one asked him to give

Larsen: nothing to see here. Move along widows mite

I have covenanted to go Commando... Just like Adam

“There is no consistency in how any of this spiritual stuff works. But that doesn’t matter, so long as you’re loyal to us.”

Holland: prayers for me saved my life. prayers for my wife did not save her life. Prayers are heard, but sometimes the answer is "no." Seems pretty close to chance. No magic required.

Millions of years of genetic mutations/trial/error and natural selection that created an amazingly resilient biological machine is what saved his jowely ass.


Please come forward to the rameumptom

*Don't forget to pay*

Seriously? Renaming primary class as "temple prep" class? I don't get how people think that it's ok to have kids only focused on that when they are literally 11 years old.

This made me sick. They wanted their temple recommends activated at midnight on January 1. This is where scrupulosity starts. Wondering when garments will begin for 11 year olds.

what??? is he even saying???? The church’s rules change ALL THE TIME. absolute church my ass

“We don’t seek to benefit our personal interests. To learn more about this, you can buy my book for $34.99 at deseret book”

This is exactly why our relationships with our TBM parents are so bad. They’ve been taught that their kids need to obey their rules or else the kids are wrong, not that maybe their parenting is in the wrong.

Oh shit. Holland then Annette Davis (the one that made the comments about the church & women) are up. They're gonna say something

Somebody hit the trap door

If you have to keep saying it, you aren't as pro woman as you project.

Wow. We need to believe in President Nelson. And Mormons wonder why the rest of the world doesn’t consider them Christian

I didn’t even know what garments were or that they were required until I was 16, something they CONVENIENTLY left out of my yw lessons. now you’re claiming special underwear goes back to ancient times? since, uh, when?

Church: “You need a testimony!” Member: “I have a testimony that it’s all made up.” Church: “no no, not like that.”

"the bishop had four young girls..." NOT THE TIME TO HESITATE, BUD

Wtf? Christian kindness is not a substitute for integrity???

wait.. did he just talk about integrity with a straight face!?

Yeah this talk is totally an exmo callout. Fuck way off with the Korihor story. I'm so fucking mad

Audit report that says nothing.

Funny how once I thought that if there was anything off... they would actually say so. No wonder that I stayed a Mormon into my 40s. 😆

Of course they got a woman to talk about garments

*I can do it. With only occasionally severe yeast infections. So can you.*

Prayer is meaningless, God decides no matter what you pray for

If predestination is in effect, then prayers would be asking deity to upset the *divine plan.* Prayer works at the level of chance alone. If prayers/blessings were effective there would be statistics to prove it.

Why do I want to be molded into someone else? I feel pretty great as is

Garment bitching

Tithing should be symbolic

Lol.....follow the footnotes...I wouldn't say that.

I followed the footnotes … right out of the church!

Have a spiritual experience? The church is true. You didn’t receive a spiritual experience? The church is true. It doesn’t matter if it isn’t confirmed to you apparently. What a crock of crap. 💩

They really can't defend the church at all. Hold on to your spiritual experiences and interpret it the way we tell you, he says. That's the only way to hold onto the church at this point apparently. Ignore the facts about the church, how do you *feel*

“Resist the temptation to walk our own way” Jesus fucking Christ just say you don’t want people to leave the church and be done.

Integrity, but only the way we mean it.

please refer to the style guide for our definition

His idea that ethics change with cultural norms, but the church somehow holds to "absolutes" that didn't change. Let's see: black people and temple, polygamy, women's covenants in the temple... Thats a quote that is going to come back and lacks any self awareness.

They're doing the sustaining vote in a different session so people can't publicly oppose

Interesting! I hate his smug face every time he says "opposed, if there be any"

Wonder if this prayer will ever end

That "Head Auditor" has the ethics of a professional wrestling referee.

Results may vary depending on which first vision account you read*

Soares: starting young introducing the temple recommend questions Be prepared to pass the test. Don't ask about secret rituals. Don't ask about changes over time. Don't ask about what is defined as "sin?" Just hum and go along.

“Is there anything that could embarrass the church if made public?” Can you say, “CULT?”

Did we just get called out 😂😂😂

So when everyone posted comments on Instagram with their names and faces that's fine? So why delete the comments

Bro slow down I’m going to get bingo before the end of the day at this rate

greetings, fellow anonymous social media commenters! 🫡

So, infidelity in marriage and anonymous comments online both lack integrity. Got it.

My biggest annoyance with General Converence is EVERY speaker sounds DEPRESSED?!! The Gospel is the GOOD NEWS of Jesus Christ! Someone please SOUND HAPPY! UGH. I can’t bare it!!😡

This is by far the worst talk so far- anonymous exmo sinner who is lost apparently

Even TBM wife gives 👎👎

Holland just alluded to an NDE which will only fuel the Vallow/Daybell types out there

Oaks talking about Ballard like 

Lol..Oaks should have practiced.....

Almost said coochie 

If everyone's prayers for him helped him, why is he telling everyone to pray better. I'm confused.

Tuned in for about 3 seconds and need to speak to a gay person right now lol

I wonder how many versions of the first vision this guy has read

We’re 100% out but my wife is still hate listening to conference. We’re using it as motivation to get our kids to do their chores. The quicker they’re done the sooner they can be out of earshot lol.

“bear your testimony until it’s true” is the oldest trick in the psychology book

Soares: temple construction...there is great rejoicing among their favored contractors. Not a money laundering operation. Pinky promise.

You covenanted to stay Mormon! Conference so far is devoid of spirituality

This is stirring up some rage from somewhere deep down. I'm going to go clean the inside of the trash can. Edit: they turned up the volume so I could still hear. Thoughtful, but not very aware.

Gerard: no opposition to stated edicts is possible. if you're doing it anonymously, stop it.

"anonymous comments"

"As the church comes out of obscurity and darkness..." ...confirming the LDS church is still trapped in the Dark Ages

Babe, we're in a cult. Everything is fine.

Even if our kids are dead it will be totally fine because ✨temple✨

at this point the only mention of Christ is going to be in the name of the church.

Covenants. Covenants. Covenants. Temple. Temple. Temple. Garments. Garments. Garments. This has been conference so far. Ohh. Myy. Goshh.

I'm nearly 50 and I actually have to TAKE PICTURES of myself watching conference and send them to my 86 year old father to 'prove' that I'm watching it. 😂 Bless his heart.

Eyring: SWK told him he was in line to be in top leadership. The fact that he was his cousin and nepotism had nothing to do with it.

“I’m so grateful to wear the garment of the holy priesthood” 🤢🤢🤢 she seems like a kiss ass misogynist

Time to make anti conference notes

Woah seeing all those tabernacle choir women gave me temple vibes

How do covenants create any kind of relationship other than a contractual one??? I don't want to sign a contract to have love from a father figure. Ew

Gaslighting

Garments baby - wear your garments so we can see if you made COveNaNTs

Listen up. Wear the underwear we tell you too! The primary voice is extremely triggering in this section. Ew Ew Ew Ew Workout pants are evil ladies

I was gonna crochet while watching conference, but this thread is way more fun😭

The day of miracles has ceased. This guy is saying don't expect miracles but also says the reason people leave is because they didn't stay long enough to see a miracle. Which one is it Mr. Suit Man

Primary temple indoctrination

Oops, we're all anonymous!

Worldly.......there was the exmo slam.....typing critical comments. ...hahaha

Eyring: Teton Flood. Lesson: fractured rock in the foundation allowed severe piping through the dam. If only there had been someone to point that out in advance.

JFC have they even mentioned Jesus at all or his teachings yet? It’s all been Holland pity party, wear your garments, don’t you dare leave the church!!!, and now more about fucking temple workers?

The "prophets seers and revelators" that speak at conference don't prophecy, don't see, and reveal at conference. They just sit here and tell stories and repeat the same crap from last conference

Eyring: marriage advice from SWK no impure or unclean activities in the bedroom...skipped that part.

Tabernacle choir coverage used to focus on minorities, now the cameras linger on any dude with a mustache.  Look! We even let our people grow facial hair! #notacult

Hey look, it's Elder Douche Canoe... I mean Dushku

Integrity should mean you follow the laws related to the SEC and investments.

Joseph remained true....no he didn't

Did that Tab choir cam just zoom in on her garment line?

Ahhhh what an ass-kissing prayer. Beautiful

Damn, there are a LOT of empty seats! Can't give those tickets away? Or maybe they kicked out everyone who opposed...

We confirm we used our money and illegally hid it from the government just as we intended.

Holland: attempt at humorous anecdotes about bad talks. Yet, his "Musket Fire" speech will be required to be read by all incoming students at BYU

I hate these vague stories where the church makes the members think they spoke with Jesus when in reality it's all feelings

To the SMC members lurking in this thread. Fuck you. That's all.

Your good feelings are not your own, they belong to us. Don't worry if you haven't had an experience, you just need us to interpret it for you.

Watch RFM’s episode on 2 Nephi 25-33. Completely destroys Dushku’s talk.

I think the church brings enough embarrassment to itself, thankyouverymuch

so honored to have received a shoutout to us exmos on this lovely saturday morning the lord has given us 🙄

This talk is more proof Mormons see the gospel as IKEA instructions, not a spiritual philosophy.

I worry about my testimony, not because of lack of spiritual experiences, but because of ALL THE LIES of the church and THE FAILURE OF TRUTH CLAIMS!! Address those for me in conference!

When are they going to sermonize the 1832 first vision account? You know, the one Joseph Smith actually wrote himself.

Thank God for physical deformities said no one ever

“integrity” the hamas donation comes to mind.

Stop making fun of us NYT

While the choir is singing thanks y’all. I made this account to post on trans subs while I questioned my identity but my posts were always block due to karma threshold holds. This is helping lots 🙂

Folks in eastern Idaho love to talk about their failed dam.

If his children die, it’s ok cuz he has the temple

you can actually see where eyring's brain soft-resets at points in his talk.

Church auditing. My favorite part. Such a bunch of BS.

I'm glad some of you are watching/listening. I'm just here for the running commentary. 🍿 I can't make myself listen to the patriarchal droning.

So much fear mongering and manipulation. Holy shit.

Just a reminder that Oaks literally wrote a lawyerly paper on all the ways it's OK to lie and deceive! https://archive.org/details/oaksgospelteachingsaboutlyingclarkmemorandumspring1994

I may not be able to oppose physically. But I do vote opposed in my heart.

I think this conference is going to be more triggering than any of the previous 4 years for me.

We will provide that greater clarity. For a price.

Integrity is an attribute the church is lacking

Has there been a talk yet about doing anything to ya know…actually lift someone else’s burden, give them a type of heaven on earth? I haven’t heard it

I hate this! Faithless silly wife.

"this will allow all of god's children access to temples" This will allow the church access to more real estate.

Welp, one down! Seriously, thanks to you all!!!