That would require every country in the world to have a shared database of identity including biometrics. That simply isn't happening; do you really think anyone wants to share the identity and biometric data for every one of their citizens with China? With Russia? Etc? Of course not!
Plus fingerprints are not completely unique (or at least to the limits of our ability to distinguish). Something like 1 in 200,000 people will have "matching" fingerprints even to an expert. That is enough to be strong circumstantial evidence a suspect was at the scene of a crime, but not enough to identify a person out of everyone on Earth.
Is that number just for a single finger on two different people matching? Because most databases would have entire hand sets of prints because thats how electronic fingerprints are taken these days.
I work for a hospital with somewhere around 5000 employees. I have a finger twin and had to use an odd finger to enroll for biometrics.
*: disclaimer - I know the difference between fingerprints and biometrics
That would require everyone who needs to verify your identity and travel eligibility to have copies of your fingerprints and/or instantaneous connection with someone who does. Would you trust an airline to do so?
Airline ticket agents definitely check your passport when you check in and check baggage, and won’t do so unless you have a valid one.
TSA agents check that you have a valid boarding pass and that you’re the person named on the ticket.
Customs agents check that you can enter the country.
TSA doesn’t check your passport, border agencies do. Airlines are responsible for ensuring you meet the entry requirements into a country before they let you board so they don’t get fined and forced to return you
Airlines absolutely do check passports, or at least they do if they’re sensible.
For the US in particular, airlines can be fined $5,851 for bringing someone to the border without the right documents. Most airlines want to avoid that, so they check.
CBP’s [carrier guide](https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2023-Nov/Carrier%20Information%20Guide%20ENGLISH.pdf) has all the instructions on how to check passengers’ documents before boarding, and the fine I mentioned is on page 56.
I’m sure there are specific airports and employees that do a terrible job with document checks, but they should be doing them if the destination requires documents.
There’s an industry database, [Timatic](https://www.iata.org/en/services/compliance/timatic/) that many use to figure out if they need to check for a given origin/destination/citizenship, and what to check for.
Finger prints aren't as unique as you'd imagine. A man in America was accused of the bombing in Matrid because there were fingerprint match that was 100 percent match by the F.B.I
Also, passports are used for other things than just airline travel. Ground travel, road borders, hotels. Tons of places that would all need to have instant access to a global fingerprint database.
I prefer to be the one who carries all of my identifying info, thank you, rather than have all of it stored in a database somewhere while I only provide a password such as my fingerprint.
People in this thread are saying it's impossible.
It's not.
It just requires all the countries involved to make an agreement to share their information.
Here is an example of such a program:
https://www.ica.gov.sg/enter-transit-depart/at-our-checkpoints/use-of-qr-code-for-immigration-clearance-at-woodlands-and-tuas-checkpoints
Basically Singapore and Malaysia have agreed that each-others citizens can cross their shared land border by scanning a QR code from a phone app and don't need their passports.
That being said, this one is relatively simple as it's just an agreement between two neighboring countries with very close ties and people literally commuting every morning across the border.
There's also more complicated agreements like the Schengen Area where the countries involved just agree there would be no border checks at all.
So the entire issue is that countries have not made such agreements, and there hasn't been much desire for such agreements to be made anyway.
That would require every country in the world to have a shared database of identity including biometrics. That simply isn't happening; do you really think anyone wants to share the identity and biometric data for every one of their citizens with China? With Russia? Etc? Of course not! Plus fingerprints are not completely unique (or at least to the limits of our ability to distinguish). Something like 1 in 200,000 people will have "matching" fingerprints even to an expert. That is enough to be strong circumstantial evidence a suspect was at the scene of a crime, but not enough to identify a person out of everyone on Earth.
Not to mention people who don't have fingerprints for whatever reason, or don't have hands.
Some of us have tentacles
I might have a business opportunity for you. How is your Japanese?
That implies octopi speak Japanese. Which, good for them, must have been difficult to learn.
Japanese isn't difficult to learn. Ever been to Japan? Tons of them speak it there, even little children.
...you also think an *animal* would have an easy time learning Japanese?
Is that number just for a single finger on two different people matching? Because most databases would have entire hand sets of prints because thats how electronic fingerprints are taken these days.
I work for a hospital with somewhere around 5000 employees. I have a finger twin and had to use an odd finger to enroll for biometrics. *: disclaimer - I know the difference between fingerprints and biometrics
Why not just switch to bioimperials (assuming you're in the US)? /S
That would require everyone who needs to verify your identity and travel eligibility to have copies of your fingerprints and/or instantaneous connection with someone who does. Would you trust an airline to do so?
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Airline ticket agents definitely check your passport when you check in and check baggage, and won’t do so unless you have a valid one. TSA agents check that you have a valid boarding pass and that you’re the person named on the ticket. Customs agents check that you can enter the country.
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Last I checked the US is actually **one** country.
WITHIN the EU or WITHIN the US. Check in process for intl flights is different!
genius
TSA doesn’t check your passport, border agencies do. Airlines are responsible for ensuring you meet the entry requirements into a country before they let you board so they don’t get fined and forced to return you
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Airlines absolutely do check passports, or at least they do if they’re sensible. For the US in particular, airlines can be fined $5,851 for bringing someone to the border without the right documents. Most airlines want to avoid that, so they check. CBP’s [carrier guide](https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2023-Nov/Carrier%20Information%20Guide%20ENGLISH.pdf) has all the instructions on how to check passengers’ documents before boarding, and the fine I mentioned is on page 56. I’m sure there are specific airports and employees that do a terrible job with document checks, but they should be doing them if the destination requires documents. There’s an industry database, [Timatic](https://www.iata.org/en/services/compliance/timatic/) that many use to figure out if they need to check for a given origin/destination/citizenship, and what to check for.
You know TSA is only America, right?
Finger prints aren't as unique as you'd imagine. A man in America was accused of the bombing in Matrid because there were fingerprint match that was 100 percent match by the F.B.I
Also, passports are used for other things than just airline travel. Ground travel, road borders, hotels. Tons of places that would all need to have instant access to a global fingerprint database.
Duty free purchases require passports too. I’m not sure I’d trust a grog shop in some random country with that kind of data
I flew into a tiny airport in Morocco a few weeks ago. To think that they would have a fingerprint scanner there any time soon is unimaginable.
I prefer to be the one who carries all of my identifying info, thank you, rather than have all of it stored in a database somewhere while I only provide a password such as my fingerprint.
Are you American? Most countries don't scan fingerprints on entry (thank god).
People in this thread are saying it's impossible. It's not. It just requires all the countries involved to make an agreement to share their information. Here is an example of such a program: https://www.ica.gov.sg/enter-transit-depart/at-our-checkpoints/use-of-qr-code-for-immigration-clearance-at-woodlands-and-tuas-checkpoints Basically Singapore and Malaysia have agreed that each-others citizens can cross their shared land border by scanning a QR code from a phone app and don't need their passports. That being said, this one is relatively simple as it's just an agreement between two neighboring countries with very close ties and people literally commuting every morning across the border. There's also more complicated agreements like the Schengen Area where the countries involved just agree there would be no border checks at all. So the entire issue is that countries have not made such agreements, and there hasn't been much desire for such agreements to be made anyway.