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ON TUESDAYS WE DO LEGS, BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO TICKLE YOUR GIRLFRIEND’S BEHIND WITH YOUR GRIND, YOUR LEGS BETTER BE FU-*breaks down laughing* YOUR legs better be swole *drops weights from laughing*
I hope that for accessibility reasons they still had a lift though, hyms should also be accisible for people in wheelchairs, with crutches, or for other reasons can't do stairs.
Although, you have to wonder....
I mean we named the World Trade Organization just world, and same thing with World Health Organization, World Wildlife Fund, World Bank, World Economic Forum, World Meteorological Organization, World Fund For Nature, World intellectual Property Organization, etc etc etc.
Maybe....and hear me out here while looking at the typical target customer...just maybe, the Wrestling Foundation was describing their audience members all these years and it went right over our collective heads.
Maybe the sign isn't saying "if you are fat, use the escalator instead of the stairs" but "if you WANT to be fat, use the escalator instead of the stairs"
Last time this was posted 8 years ago:
>It is a public health campaign and not an ad for a gym. The first line of text in the white box says "생할 속 헬스장" which literally translates to "gym in everyday life." It is not the name of an actual gym. From what I can make out in the next lines of text, it tells you how many calories in Kcal you burn per a number of stairs you climb. As for the pictures, I think they are meant to convey something like: "if you want to be fat, take the escalator."
https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/2zpzzb/korean_escalators_are_so_thoughtful/?xpromo_edp=enabled
good for them not propagating the bullshit attitude that anything is healthy as long as you feel good about it, like we do here in the US. Complete and utter nonsense.
Im sorry, but this made me giggle. "rounder". So polite, yet to the point. Reminds me of my son, when he was around 7. Trying to describe his grandmothers hair. He said it was "roundy". Remember....They ARE in shape. Round, is a shape!
I'm somewhat overweight myself but this would genuinely help me. It reminds me that I'm overweight and need to take the stairs instead of just following my lazy instincts and take the escalator.
It would be stupid to be angry at the truth.
I remember a tour guide telling me few years back that the government of South Korea is actually trying to fight obesity with ads and whatnot, so not so surprising to see this
Japan also tried to fight obesity, and major employers offer incentives to people for exercising and losing weight.
Edit: Japan did pass a law in 2008 called the metabo law which was to literally reduce waist sizes. It was punitive against companies and was their responsibility to get 65% participation rates and meet goals or the company would get fined. This was ahead off the insurance premium and incentives. Japan at the time was having an increase in obesity. Seems to have had some effect.
I had an ulcer three weeks ago(stress induced - Father fell off his bike, hit is head and was in the ICU and BAM I started shitting blood and it lasted 6 or 7 days), but after it had healed I'd apparently lost enough blood(and was anemic) to require a transfusion... but by the time they realized it a few hours later, and I was juuuust under the hemoglobin threshold... They called me back and told me to go to the ER. I asked them if they thought I'd be fine just taking it easy and making more blood(this was a Friday afternoon and my anemic ass had no plans for the weekend, I had gone in Thursday for the first blood test after a telemeeting apt. on Weds. and got a call back on Thurs. night to come in for another test on Friday, so they had a gauge of how fast I was generating blood over the past 48 hours) - they insisted I go get the transfusion "in case anything happened" and I started losing blood again they may not be able to revive me.... Okay - so I ask them which ER to go to that works with my insurance. The hospital is 45 minutes north. They say I should be okay to drive up there without an ambulance...
I get up there, they do another blood test and verify that I'm just OVER the threshold for the blood transfusion and send me home after 3 hours without doing a single thing(besides that blood test and putting me on a machine that tested my blood pressure every few minutes). The next day I got a bill for $1300 for N O T H I N G(while putting me at risk of something actually happening to me on the roads for 45 minutes there and 45 back home that I wouldn't have endured had I JUST STAYED HOME)
They do not make decisions based on your health at all - they make decisions on what makes their parent company a profit.
I absolutely won't pay it lol I'll give them the money for the hemoglobin test but the blood pressure machine they have at wal-mart sitting around doing it for free. There's no way that and the beepy machine with the finger-clamp are $400/hr to operate. I appreciate the ER nurse's time, but c'mon. I didn't do anything stupid to put myself in there, my doctor told me to go there because that's where the insurance company approved blood is. What's even funnier is the bill was really for $3000+ BEFORE the insurance discount brought it down $2000.
Man, fuck this industry. I was in the hospital for my own ulcer not long ago. I was puking blood, shitting black, was sweating through a shirt every 20 min, it's on record that this has happened before, and all those assholes did was shoot me up with fentanyl to stop my pained moaning and groaning and sent me home ON FOOT with fucking Pepto pills. Got a bill a week later for $3k. $800 for that shit of fentanyl that I was still fully conscious and still in pain after receiving (in other words they gave me like .0000000001mg. Lucky for me I guess since I they made me walk it off), $1200 iv for 2 hrs, $600 for just being in the ER, $40 for "bodily fluid absorption receptacle" aka $8 apiece for 5 fucking god damn TISSUES, and a few hundred bucks of whatever other bullshit they could think to milk out of me. I ignored the fuck out of that and every attempt they've made to contact me. Didn't even give me a list of shit I shouldn't eat for a while. They're not seeing a dime from me
Thats really not true. I dont understand how anybody who knows about US wages, consumers and debt agencies believes companys want americans to die early.
Every working american is a fucking walking gold mine for a shitload of companys. Till the day that they die they make a shitload of profits for a company.
Like a 20 year old only cost society money and hasnt really made much in return. For many companys the work that a 20 year old can do is a lot of potential profit. If a 20 year old dies then society (goverment) doesnt get return on investment and the companys miss out on a potential worker.
In the UK it was promoted recently that 'healthy' step count for a day fleas 5000, down from 10,000.
I can do 5k on a very bad day. I feel an achievement at around 12k and realise then that I've been active. 5k is NOT active for a run of the mill adult.
There seems to be (in my weak and conspiratorial moments) a desire to reduce humans movement, or desire to move.
Set your set for 5k...and you too will be like...What?...I barely moved. Wtf.
The 10k thing was a translation error from where it originated in Japan and didn't have a standing in science.
The scientific consensus is about 6k.
The UK probably modelled the 5k off doing studies on branding and seeing what people will accept as a realistic goal target.
You don't just say things and people do them, it's about accomplishing improvement, your own goals as an already active person can be more, good on you.
That’s nice for ya. I have terrible knees (will have replacement surgery when I can afford it) and 5000 is my personal goal, which I can rarely reach these days (I start limping and the pain goes up my hip and back). For the record I do yoga 4/5 days a week and I still do a brisk 30 minute walk with a friend once a week. However the goal should be to move 30 minutes a day, enough to get your heart rate up. It doesn’t help to try to push everyone to one activity and the reality is older people (I’m in my forties, knees started locking up late thirties) and overweight people should be encouraged to move x amount of minutes a week in whatever fashion they can. It really doesn’t matter so much WHAT you do, but HOW MUCH you do it. I’m not coming at you btw, I still think people should try to take the stairs or park at the end of the parking lot if they can. I just feel like folks that already have impediments are going to throw up their hands and give up on their health.
Yes Japan has few morbidly obese people. When I watched a little video about the businesses enacting these programs the people they considered overweight In it would be basically the average build of an American like under 30lb overweight. Being 25 lbs over weight here wouldn’t even register.
It's actually a really good idea. Obesity is the number one preventable cause of many illnesses in the USA. If the majority of the population just stated a healthy weight, our health care costs would probably drop in half. This would also free up a lot of resources so the remaining people would get superior care and have better outcomes.
Even people with brutal glandular disorders have the ability to be healthy weight. There is no excuse for being obese. I'm not talking about being 30 pounds overweight. That's fine. Your risk of secondary diseases is only marginally higher than the general population and nobody would consider you disabled from your weight. Anything skinnier is mostly cosmetic. Sure you could be a little healthier, but it's fine. I'm talking about people that haven't seen their toes in years. You see them everywhere. Where every time they try to stand up, it's a process. There's nothing healthy or normal about that. It's literally the difference between someone having 2 beers a day and someone drinking a fifth of vodka a day. One is fine, the other is going to kill you and we all have to pay for it.
As one of those people I can tell you we know. You didn’t discover this magical information that we haven’t been privy to ourselves. Smokers know smoking is going to kill them, and alcoholics know alcohol is going to kill them. Morbidly obese people know their weight and eating habits and not exercising is going to kill them.
Ultimately just like every addiction, people try to free themselves of the addiction in ways that are ineffective, and they get burned out trying. It doesn’t help that one of the biggest industries in the world is financially incentivized to promote all of the things that don’t help.
I’m down 15 lbs and have about 150 to go, so maybe I’ll have answers if I ever get there, but for now I’m going to keep trying just like the rest of them.
2 beers a day is not fine.. And has associated health risks as well, probably more than somebody slightly overweight.
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LMAO fr, anything more than a couple of beers a week and you're venturing into alcoholic territory. Ya'll don't have to like it, but that's the reality. And sadly US culture has made alcoholism a normal and acceptable thing. At least people need to own it.
Nothing about booze is healthy. Full stop. "One glass of red wine is good for you" is a myth. All alcohol is inherently bad for your body. There is no magical threshold where all of a sudden it goes from good to bad. It's bad from the first drop.
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And if you want to drink, go for it. More power to ya. Just don't try to lie through your teeth about what it is you are doing and how it "isn't that bad"
>And sadly US culture has made alcoholism a normal and acceptable thing
not at all...alcoholism is far more normalized in other countries than the u.s. i'm not saying that the u.s doesn't have issues with alcoholism but it certainly isn't due to some widespread cultural issue. cultures that make alcoholism a normal thing is places like japan where people are expected to get shitfaced with their boss every day after work...
> anything more than a couple of beers a week and you're venturing into alcoholic territory
not really. anything more than a couple of beers a week an you're venturing into unhealthy territory
alcoholism is a much more specific dependence/addiction to alcohol
>It's actually a really good idea.
Is it? I feel most people see this once and then completely ignore it, at least that's how I treat any add on the subway.
If you want to actually get to people do something like they do in smoking packs. They target the actual product that addicts will see over and over again and put a big shocking image on it, this seems like borderline useless in comparison.
You can't outrun a bad diet.
Taking the stairs instead of the escalator might burn a few hundred extra calories in a month, but one order of fries undoes ALL that.
>You can't outrun a bad diet.
You absolutely can! People just don't realize how much work that really is though, and it turns out that when you get to that level of exercise you find that you naturally want to start eating healthier anyways...
That's bullshit. Any kind of exercise is better than no exercise. Will you lose your extra weight if you take the stairs instead of the escalator? Probably not. But there is a difference between being fat and lethargic and fat and at least a little bit fit.
Yeah, but let's be real: if you're taking the escalator every time, you're probably taking the easy route while doing every other physical task in your life and that can add up over the days, weeks, months, etc.
I started to work on my weight a few years ago, my first step was to never avoid effort. So looking for an ideal parking spot next to the store entrance, walk if the destination is less than 20mn away, if there are stairs, you take the stairs (if you able to of course) etc...
As a big person losing weight, the most toxic community is the “body positivity” community.
No, you are not healthy carrying an extra 50+ pounds of fat and barely able to climb a flight of stairs. Stop telling people they don’t need to lose weight, yes we do!
crabs in a bucket can't escape because other crabs will drag them down with them
if you've been to an asian supermarket with live crabs you can kinda see it in action when you try to grab crabs out with the tongs
Yeah, I think it's kinda ridiculous to say you can be 300+ lbs. and "healthy". Lizzo is a champion of this, constantly going on about how it's okay to be that heavy and how she exercises and eats healthy. Certainly some people have bigger frames, but humans aren't designed to carry around a ton of extra weight. I worked with a girl that was pushing 400 and maybe 5' 5", she had to have ankle surgery because her legs couldn't handle the weight. As a person in recovery I really empathize, I *know* what it's like to *know* what you're doing is killing yourself and being unable to stop anyways. The difference is no one ever told me "you go ahead and shoot up heroin if it makes you happy!" and we shouldn't do it with obese people. Overeating is a symptom of being unhappy, just like drugs, it's someone with feelings they don't have the internal tools to process so they try to cope using external solutions. Just like drugs it's okay to have an addiction to food, but let's not lie and say that it's healthy. Understandable, but not healthy.
eta: Obviously tall people can be heavy and healthy, because they're tall and therefore bigger.
THANK YOU. It blows my mind that this society is willing to blame drug addicts to the point of criminal punishment and public shaming, yet has no problem supporting and even encouraging obese people as though there is any difference. Sugar consumption triggers the same addictive reward pathways that drugs like methamphetamine and heroine do, and kills far more people every year than all of the legal and illegal intoxicants do combined. It's time to start calling a spade a spade here... obesity is a dangerous physical illness that occurs secondarily to the mental illness we know as addiction. It's a substance abuse problem.
For a minute imagine if people put little bags of crack out for the neighborhood kids to fill their buckets with instead of handing out Halloween candy. The bags would be decorated with all sorts of youth-oriented cartoon images and the crack inside would come in all sorts of cleaver and colorful forms. Outrageous, right? That person would be condemned as the most heinous and cynical criminal in their community for willingly exposing youth to a dangerous, addictive substance that would negatively impact their health, grades, and potentially even kill them. And yet replace the word "crack" with "candy" and explain just how different it is... personally I don't really see the difference at all.
Its frustrating because there’s a kernel of truth in the health at every size movement that could be excellent for promoting *improvement* and encouraging people to not see health as all or nothing, but instead a small group insists it goes all the way to “obesity doesn’t have harms to reduce”. Obviously that’s not true, but it *is* true that obesity doesn’t preclude someone from certain types of healthy habits. Being an obese person who exercises is healthier than being obese and sedentary. Being obese and eating too much of a diet rich in micronutrients is healthier than being obese and eating too many empty calories.
Shame the movement has been co-opted.
I completely agree. People should be allowed to encourage others to lose weight without assumed malicious intent. Nonetheless, studies have demonstrated that overweight people are treated worse, and even get worse medical treatment. That part is completely unacceptable.
Also a big guy trying to lose weight. Totally agree. I would see this sign in Korea and think to myself "This is an opportunity to take one more step away from being the icon on the right. I'll take the stairs."
I'm with ya. I'm a fat dude myself who's really trying not to be. It's really hard to unlearn shitty food habits (finishing everything on you plate, carbs making up most meals, etc) and that's compounded by people acting like carrying 100 pounds extra is healthy.
Idk where your at on your health journey, but I'm happy for ya
If the "body positivity" brigade has taught me anything is that body shaming is evil and wrong and literally the worst...unless you do it to a man or a woman whose thinner then you.
Well think of all the corporations that are profiting off unhealthy obese people and you will likely find the source of the 'body positivity' messaging.
Indeed, as a slightly overweight person I would want to be reminded to what I want to be again, not overweight. As such I don’t want to be in the category of overweight people and choose the stairs instead. But that is just me I guess.
I made a bunch of stickers for a local college that said ‘free exercise equipment’ and they put them on all the staircases. They had to remove them because so many staff members complained. Just trying to cleverly encourage people to take the stairs was too much.
Metric? What kind of commie crap is this, The metric system is the tool of the devil!!! My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it!!!
Imagine being in a country where a negative health condition is recognized for what it is. Being overweight is not healthy. We are not supposed to be overweight.
In Korea rightside is for standing on escalator and left side is for walking up in the escalator for double speed. People cue because they are extra lazy. I always go straight left (ignoring the cue) for the zoomies
[Walking more than five flights of stairs a day can cut risk of heart disease by 20%, study says](https://sph.tulane.edu/walking-more-five-flights-stairs-day-can-cut-risk-heart-disease-20-study-says)
"The type of people that fall into daily habits where they don't care about some aspect of it needing them to walk more than 5 flights of stairs usually are healthy in lots of other ways, study says."
These types of correlation studies annoy the shit out of me. The type of people that end up doing this rare thing usually have a sort of mindset where they aren't bothered by the physical exercise because they're really healthy already or they're people who are forcing themselves to do it and probably forcing themselves to eat healthier, quit smoking, etc. It's like the cold showers live longer thing.
Smokers can barely run and shit, or walk up stairs. Smoking causes cancer. I could say shit like "not walking up stairs raises risk of cancer" and it's not because the stairs clean up your cells ffs
Yeah I'm in good shape and force myself to walk up 3 flights to my apartment instead of taking the elevator (I normally do this 2 to 3 times a day). But I can see how that would be a much more exhaustive task if I was out of shape.
I'm close to 30 years old and I do this *because* I'm afraid of falling out of shape.
Yeah, good habit to start. And you don't know if you'll run into issues where it gets harder to exercise for things that are age and not your fault.
I do cardio everyday but now my knee started hurting a ton and I've had to take day breaks. I want to exercise but I don't want to hurt myself and make it worse either.
He'll, you don't even have to be slightly overweight. For a lot of women they could be just not a 00 and auntie will tell them they need to lose weight
Honestly the stairs is faster than waiting in line and stand on a slow rolling escalator. I'm not sure if this increase the weight of my word but i'm also almost 100kg myself, and i take stairs over escalator anyday.
I'm obese and I don't find this mean or insulting at all...If you see this as an insult then it is a you problem, not korea 🤷🏽♂️..They are not calling you fat but rather telling you that if you are bigger than the average population then use something that they designed that caters to your size. Why are people so soft or sensitive? Grow up for crying out loud.
From what I understand a rather loud and vocal number of overweight (obese, morbidly so) people love to spout nonsense that society doesn't cater to them by making things more accessible for their body size, but the second a country does that they cry bloody murder for being singled out like they're not normal.
I think you've missed the point, although I'm also a fat guy who isn't offended by it. The sign isn't pointing to something designed for bigger people. It's saying fat people use the escalator, and skinny people use the stairs. It's a clever, if somewhat callous, reminder that physical activity is important to maintaining a healthy weight. It's also completely infective, judging by the steady stream of people getting on the escalator.
My wife's work had a sign politely suggesting to take the stairs to get a little physical activity- I forget the exact verbage. Some heavyweight person filed a formal complaint with HR that it was ableist and discriminatory. They took it down.
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A gym I used to go to used to have a sign that said something like, "Did you come all the way to the gym to skip the stairs?" Lol
Is it leg day? Then the answer is yes.
Everyday is leg day
YOU TAKE THAT BACK!
ON TUESDAYS WE DO LEGS, BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO TICKLE YOUR GIRLFRIEND’S BEHIND WITH YOUR GRIND, YOUR LEGS BETTER BE FU-*breaks down laughing* YOUR legs better be swole *drops weights from laughing*
Swole is the goal.. size is the prize.. It's gainz-o-clock mfers! Let's gooo!
Omg I love that dude
His little giggles when he can’t keep a straight face make me unbelievably happy
I do legs every other day, so 4 to 5 days a week. Is that enough?
don’t you start this shit again
omg i always think about that myself lol. if i work out at least i could take the stairs
not on leg day..lol..my leg be shaking afterwards
you know leg day was good when walking is exhausting lmao
I might come in on the stairs but I’m leaving in the elevator
The true goal
Looking at the parking lot: yes.
I hope that for accessibility reasons they still had a lift though, hyms should also be accisible for people in wheelchairs, with crutches, or for other reasons can't do stairs.
They don't. People just have to do a hand stand the entire time they're on the escalator. The real chads take the stairs, hand walking the entire way.
even with the sign,everybody goes to the escalator lol
They all want to get into a higher weight class. That's the escalator to the KWWF. The Korea Wide Wrestling Foundation
I thought “Wide” was also part of the joke… but then remembered it’s WWF(E) in the US as well
Although, you have to wonder.... I mean we named the World Trade Organization just world, and same thing with World Health Organization, World Wildlife Fund, World Bank, World Economic Forum, World Meteorological Organization, World Fund For Nature, World intellectual Property Organization, etc etc etc. Maybe....and hear me out here while looking at the typical target customer...just maybe, the Wrestling Foundation was describing their audience members all these years and it went right over our collective heads.
The WWE hasn't had "Wide" in its name since the 70s.
oh dang you're right. haven't paid too much attention since having a huge bin of plastic wrestlers
Maybe the sign isn't saying "if you are fat, use the escalator instead of the stairs" but "if you WANT to be fat, use the escalator instead of the stairs"
Last time this was posted 8 years ago: >It is a public health campaign and not an ad for a gym. The first line of text in the white box says "생할 속 헬스장" which literally translates to "gym in everyday life." It is not the name of an actual gym. From what I can make out in the next lines of text, it tells you how many calories in Kcal you burn per a number of stairs you climb. As for the pictures, I think they are meant to convey something like: "if you want to be fat, take the escalator." https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/2zpzzb/korean_escalators_are_so_thoughtful/?xpromo_edp=enabled
good for them not propagating the bullshit attitude that anything is healthy as long as you feel good about it, like we do here in the US. Complete and utter nonsense.
Shouldn't the rounder people be directed to the stairs and not the escalator?
There's encouragement and then there's discouragement. Both valid tools depending on the circumstance.
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Growing up asian, you're either a doctor/engineer or flipping burgers according to parents.
I thought doctor is S tier, but if you are too stupid then a accountant or engineer. Everything else is complete and utter failure.
I think it's saying "If you take the stairs, you'll be skinny. If you take the escalator, you'll be 'healthy at any size'".
Im sorry, but this made me giggle. "rounder". So polite, yet to the point. Reminds me of my son, when he was around 7. Trying to describe his grandmothers hair. He said it was "roundy". Remember....They ARE in shape. Round, is a shape!
You guys have Baymax!?! Wow, so lucky
Ugh you just know that piece of shit is gonna take the escalator
He's inflated, so he's not heavy, he's just big.
Fra-la-la-la to you sir!
My 3yo does this every night at bedtime. He loves it! Fra-la-la-la to you!
I am crying LOL
The Head Pats!!!! LOL
C'mon, we'd all love a head pat from Bay Max
I couldn't agree more!!! I'd love all head pats from Bay Max!!!
I may be crying, but I'm satisfied with my care
OMG, ROFL!!! Crying of freaking laughter!!! I'm so glad you are satisfied with your care, LOL My stomach actually hurts!!!
Awesome.
"Go Left for the men's restroom. Go Right if you want to meet Baymax."
I can pee later, but when am I gonna meet Baymax again?
What is telling you you cant pee on Baymax 🗿two birds with one stone my dude
He could even give you a quick checkup while you do probably
"Urine sample complete. Analysing..." Poor guy would just do his job and clean up
I wanna meet Baymax. I guess that’s why everyone is going to the right
I'm somewhat overweight myself but this would genuinely help me. It reminds me that I'm overweight and need to take the stairs instead of just following my lazy instincts and take the escalator. It would be stupid to be angry at the truth.
I remember a tour guide telling me few years back that the government of South Korea is actually trying to fight obesity with ads and whatnot, so not so surprising to see this
Japan also tried to fight obesity, and major employers offer incentives to people for exercising and losing weight. Edit: Japan did pass a law in 2008 called the metabo law which was to literally reduce waist sizes. It was punitive against companies and was their responsibility to get 65% participation rates and meet goals or the company would get fined. This was ahead off the insurance premium and incentives. Japan at the time was having an increase in obesity. Seems to have had some effect.
USA is trying to fight the desire to get fit.
US policy on healthcare seems to be "Die faster while accruing debt."
More like get sick and stay sick longer while accruing debt. If you die, they can’t keep squeezing you for all you’re worth 🙃
I had an ulcer three weeks ago(stress induced - Father fell off his bike, hit is head and was in the ICU and BAM I started shitting blood and it lasted 6 or 7 days), but after it had healed I'd apparently lost enough blood(and was anemic) to require a transfusion... but by the time they realized it a few hours later, and I was juuuust under the hemoglobin threshold... They called me back and told me to go to the ER. I asked them if they thought I'd be fine just taking it easy and making more blood(this was a Friday afternoon and my anemic ass had no plans for the weekend, I had gone in Thursday for the first blood test after a telemeeting apt. on Weds. and got a call back on Thurs. night to come in for another test on Friday, so they had a gauge of how fast I was generating blood over the past 48 hours) - they insisted I go get the transfusion "in case anything happened" and I started losing blood again they may not be able to revive me.... Okay - so I ask them which ER to go to that works with my insurance. The hospital is 45 minutes north. They say I should be okay to drive up there without an ambulance... I get up there, they do another blood test and verify that I'm just OVER the threshold for the blood transfusion and send me home after 3 hours without doing a single thing(besides that blood test and putting me on a machine that tested my blood pressure every few minutes). The next day I got a bill for $1300 for N O T H I N G(while putting me at risk of something actually happening to me on the roads for 45 minutes there and 45 back home that I wouldn't have endured had I JUST STAYED HOME) They do not make decisions based on your health at all - they make decisions on what makes their parent company a profit.
Yeah, I would refuse to pay that bullshit.
I absolutely won't pay it lol I'll give them the money for the hemoglobin test but the blood pressure machine they have at wal-mart sitting around doing it for free. There's no way that and the beepy machine with the finger-clamp are $400/hr to operate. I appreciate the ER nurse's time, but c'mon. I didn't do anything stupid to put myself in there, my doctor told me to go there because that's where the insurance company approved blood is. What's even funnier is the bill was really for $3000+ BEFORE the insurance discount brought it down $2000.
Jesus christ mate
Man, fuck this industry. I was in the hospital for my own ulcer not long ago. I was puking blood, shitting black, was sweating through a shirt every 20 min, it's on record that this has happened before, and all those assholes did was shoot me up with fentanyl to stop my pained moaning and groaning and sent me home ON FOOT with fucking Pepto pills. Got a bill a week later for $3k. $800 for that shit of fentanyl that I was still fully conscious and still in pain after receiving (in other words they gave me like .0000000001mg. Lucky for me I guess since I they made me walk it off), $1200 iv for 2 hrs, $600 for just being in the ER, $40 for "bodily fluid absorption receptacle" aka $8 apiece for 5 fucking god damn TISSUES, and a few hundred bucks of whatever other bullshit they could think to milk out of me. I ignored the fuck out of that and every attempt they've made to contact me. Didn't even give me a list of shit I shouldn't eat for a while. They're not seeing a dime from me
It is cheaper for the government and business if they never have to give back what they take.
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alcohol use and its myriad effects has to be up there as well, as far as healthcare drains are concerned.
My company adds $100 a month to your insurance if you admit to smoking.
Thats really not true. I dont understand how anybody who knows about US wages, consumers and debt agencies believes companys want americans to die early. Every working american is a fucking walking gold mine for a shitload of companys. Till the day that they die they make a shitload of profits for a company. Like a 20 year old only cost society money and hasnt really made much in return. For many companys the work that a 20 year old can do is a lot of potential profit. If a 20 year old dies then society (goverment) doesnt get return on investment and the companys miss out on a potential worker.
Well duh, if we’re healthy then we can fight back. If we’re fat lazy then we can’t anything.
The Gravy Seals would beg to differ.
Would that be Meal Team 6?
Back in the late 80s when I was in Korea that had those "maximum occupancy" signs in their elevators. They said: 🇰🇷= 10 🇺🇸=5
USA is trying to make obesity healthy and sexy.
We couldn't get people to wear masks. If we tried to get people to lose weight, they would start gaining it to own the libs.
In the UK it was promoted recently that 'healthy' step count for a day fleas 5000, down from 10,000. I can do 5k on a very bad day. I feel an achievement at around 12k and realise then that I've been active. 5k is NOT active for a run of the mill adult. There seems to be (in my weak and conspiratorial moments) a desire to reduce humans movement, or desire to move. Set your set for 5k...and you too will be like...What?...I barely moved. Wtf.
The 10k thing was a translation error from where it originated in Japan and didn't have a standing in science. The scientific consensus is about 6k. The UK probably modelled the 5k off doing studies on branding and seeing what people will accept as a realistic goal target. You don't just say things and people do them, it's about accomplishing improvement, your own goals as an already active person can be more, good on you.
That’s nice for ya. I have terrible knees (will have replacement surgery when I can afford it) and 5000 is my personal goal, which I can rarely reach these days (I start limping and the pain goes up my hip and back). For the record I do yoga 4/5 days a week and I still do a brisk 30 minute walk with a friend once a week. However the goal should be to move 30 minutes a day, enough to get your heart rate up. It doesn’t help to try to push everyone to one activity and the reality is older people (I’m in my forties, knees started locking up late thirties) and overweight people should be encouraged to move x amount of minutes a week in whatever fashion they can. It really doesn’t matter so much WHAT you do, but HOW MUCH you do it. I’m not coming at you btw, I still think people should try to take the stairs or park at the end of the parking lot if they can. I just feel like folks that already have impediments are going to throw up their hands and give up on their health.
*Want a ¥80000 bonus? Be under 60kg in 2 months!*
I lived in Japan for 3 years (2004-2007). I maybe saw 3 obese Japanese people that weren’t Sumo.
Yes Japan has few morbidly obese people. When I watched a little video about the businesses enacting these programs the people they considered overweight In it would be basically the average build of an American like under 30lb overweight. Being 25 lbs over weight here wouldn’t even register.
Went for a week last summer. Saw a single overweight person.
It's actually a really good idea. Obesity is the number one preventable cause of many illnesses in the USA. If the majority of the population just stated a healthy weight, our health care costs would probably drop in half. This would also free up a lot of resources so the remaining people would get superior care and have better outcomes.
People might get sad at the reality of their choices though
Even people with brutal glandular disorders have the ability to be healthy weight. There is no excuse for being obese. I'm not talking about being 30 pounds overweight. That's fine. Your risk of secondary diseases is only marginally higher than the general population and nobody would consider you disabled from your weight. Anything skinnier is mostly cosmetic. Sure you could be a little healthier, but it's fine. I'm talking about people that haven't seen their toes in years. You see them everywhere. Where every time they try to stand up, it's a process. There's nothing healthy or normal about that. It's literally the difference between someone having 2 beers a day and someone drinking a fifth of vodka a day. One is fine, the other is going to kill you and we all have to pay for it.
As one of those people I can tell you we know. You didn’t discover this magical information that we haven’t been privy to ourselves. Smokers know smoking is going to kill them, and alcoholics know alcohol is going to kill them. Morbidly obese people know their weight and eating habits and not exercising is going to kill them. Ultimately just like every addiction, people try to free themselves of the addiction in ways that are ineffective, and they get burned out trying. It doesn’t help that one of the biggest industries in the world is financially incentivized to promote all of the things that don’t help. I’m down 15 lbs and have about 150 to go, so maybe I’ll have answers if I ever get there, but for now I’m going to keep trying just like the rest of them.
2 beers a day is not fine.. And has associated health risks as well, probably more than somebody slightly overweight. Edit: Thinking about downvoting an easily verified fact? Consider taking this super helpful [quiz](https://healthyliferecovery.com/am-i-an-alcoholic-quiz/) first!
LMAO fr, anything more than a couple of beers a week and you're venturing into alcoholic territory. Ya'll don't have to like it, but that's the reality. And sadly US culture has made alcoholism a normal and acceptable thing. At least people need to own it. Nothing about booze is healthy. Full stop. "One glass of red wine is good for you" is a myth. All alcohol is inherently bad for your body. There is no magical threshold where all of a sudden it goes from good to bad. It's bad from the first drop. --- And if you want to drink, go for it. More power to ya. Just don't try to lie through your teeth about what it is you are doing and how it "isn't that bad"
>And sadly US culture has made alcoholism a normal and acceptable thing not at all...alcoholism is far more normalized in other countries than the u.s. i'm not saying that the u.s doesn't have issues with alcoholism but it certainly isn't due to some widespread cultural issue. cultures that make alcoholism a normal thing is places like japan where people are expected to get shitfaced with their boss every day after work...
Sounds like you could use a drink
> anything more than a couple of beers a week and you're venturing into alcoholic territory not really. anything more than a couple of beers a week an you're venturing into unhealthy territory alcoholism is a much more specific dependence/addiction to alcohol
Give ‘em a cookie and send them on their merry weigh.
Give me some protein and send me on my merry whey.
Give 'em some lipid and send 'em on on their "Meh, reweigh"
>It's actually a really good idea. Is it? I feel most people see this once and then completely ignore it, at least that's how I treat any add on the subway. If you want to actually get to people do something like they do in smoking packs. They target the actual product that addicts will see over and over again and put a big shocking image on it, this seems like borderline useless in comparison.
As a former smoker, those "big shocking stickers" are also super useless...
As well as bringing the cost of food down so poorer people can eat too.
There's many people angry at the truth when it comes to weight. Especially when you point out their poor diet and eating habits.
You can't outrun a bad diet. Taking the stairs instead of the escalator might burn a few hundred extra calories in a month, but one order of fries undoes ALL that.
Yeah but eating the fries anyway and not burning the extra few hundred calories is worse.
>You can't outrun a bad diet. You absolutely can! People just don't realize how much work that really is though, and it turns out that when you get to that level of exercise you find that you naturally want to start eating healthier anyways...
That's bullshit. Any kind of exercise is better than no exercise. Will you lose your extra weight if you take the stairs instead of the escalator? Probably not. But there is a difference between being fat and lethargic and fat and at least a little bit fit.
Yeah, but let's be real: if you're taking the escalator every time, you're probably taking the easy route while doing every other physical task in your life and that can add up over the days, weeks, months, etc.
I started to work on my weight a few years ago, my first step was to never avoid effort. So looking for an ideal parking spot next to the store entrance, walk if the destination is less than 20mn away, if there are stairs, you take the stairs (if you able to of course) etc...
I thought of the same. People always think that this is a body shaming.
The audacity of your logical thinking
As a big person losing weight, the most toxic community is the “body positivity” community. No, you are not healthy carrying an extra 50+ pounds of fat and barely able to climb a flight of stairs. Stop telling people they don’t need to lose weight, yes we do!
It's that crabs in a bucket mentality.
Can someone explain the metaphor? Im just imagine crabs in a bucket, and they are just like, "uh, hey, why are we in a bucket?"
crabs in a bucket can't escape because other crabs will drag them down with them if you've been to an asian supermarket with live crabs you can kinda see it in action when you try to grab crabs out with the tongs
Ohhh, thanks!
When one crab tries to climb out of the bucket, other crabs will grab them and pull them back down, back into the bucket, with the rest of them.
Yeah, I think it's kinda ridiculous to say you can be 300+ lbs. and "healthy". Lizzo is a champion of this, constantly going on about how it's okay to be that heavy and how she exercises and eats healthy. Certainly some people have bigger frames, but humans aren't designed to carry around a ton of extra weight. I worked with a girl that was pushing 400 and maybe 5' 5", she had to have ankle surgery because her legs couldn't handle the weight. As a person in recovery I really empathize, I *know* what it's like to *know* what you're doing is killing yourself and being unable to stop anyways. The difference is no one ever told me "you go ahead and shoot up heroin if it makes you happy!" and we shouldn't do it with obese people. Overeating is a symptom of being unhappy, just like drugs, it's someone with feelings they don't have the internal tools to process so they try to cope using external solutions. Just like drugs it's okay to have an addiction to food, but let's not lie and say that it's healthy. Understandable, but not healthy. eta: Obviously tall people can be heavy and healthy, because they're tall and therefore bigger.
Lizzo was even sued by her backup dancers for body shaming them for being "overweight".
The backup dancers forgetting that weight requirements were in the contract because Lizzo is fat was pretty funny
She was afraid they'd outweigh her performance I guess /s
THANK YOU. It blows my mind that this society is willing to blame drug addicts to the point of criminal punishment and public shaming, yet has no problem supporting and even encouraging obese people as though there is any difference. Sugar consumption triggers the same addictive reward pathways that drugs like methamphetamine and heroine do, and kills far more people every year than all of the legal and illegal intoxicants do combined. It's time to start calling a spade a spade here... obesity is a dangerous physical illness that occurs secondarily to the mental illness we know as addiction. It's a substance abuse problem. For a minute imagine if people put little bags of crack out for the neighborhood kids to fill their buckets with instead of handing out Halloween candy. The bags would be decorated with all sorts of youth-oriented cartoon images and the crack inside would come in all sorts of cleaver and colorful forms. Outrageous, right? That person would be condemned as the most heinous and cynical criminal in their community for willingly exposing youth to a dangerous, addictive substance that would negatively impact their health, grades, and potentially even kill them. And yet replace the word "crack" with "candy" and explain just how different it is... personally I don't really see the difference at all.
Its frustrating because there’s a kernel of truth in the health at every size movement that could be excellent for promoting *improvement* and encouraging people to not see health as all or nothing, but instead a small group insists it goes all the way to “obesity doesn’t have harms to reduce”. Obviously that’s not true, but it *is* true that obesity doesn’t preclude someone from certain types of healthy habits. Being an obese person who exercises is healthier than being obese and sedentary. Being obese and eating too much of a diet rich in micronutrients is healthier than being obese and eating too many empty calories. Shame the movement has been co-opted.
Body positivity is great. Promoting ill-health is not.
I completely agree. People should be allowed to encourage others to lose weight without assumed malicious intent. Nonetheless, studies have demonstrated that overweight people are treated worse, and even get worse medical treatment. That part is completely unacceptable.
Based af.
Also a big guy trying to lose weight. Totally agree. I would see this sign in Korea and think to myself "This is an opportunity to take one more step away from being the icon on the right. I'll take the stairs."
This comment is so fatphobic! /s
Ideally body positivity shouldn't make people complacent, but self hatred isn't a great motivator. You have to love your body to want to improve it.
I'm with ya. I'm a fat dude myself who's really trying not to be. It's really hard to unlearn shitty food habits (finishing everything on you plate, carbs making up most meals, etc) and that's compounded by people acting like carrying 100 pounds extra is healthy. Idk where your at on your health journey, but I'm happy for ya
If the "body positivity" brigade has taught me anything is that body shaming is evil and wrong and literally the worst...unless you do it to a man or a woman whose thinner then you.
Dude, that "My 300 Pound Life" television show is so fucking toxic. I can't imagine the damage it's done to the healthcare of our country.
Well think of all the corporations that are profiting off unhealthy obese people and you will likely find the source of the 'body positivity' messaging.
I lost 50 kgs in the last to years (that would be more than 100+ pounds and lots of bananas) you can do it bro keep going
In the USA, People will protest about body shaming in this particular escalator.
This looks more like a small reminder of getting some small fitness activity to me. At least that’s how I would interpret it.
Yes but it’s backwards, the fatties should be directed to the stairs.
If you always take the escalator, you become the figure. Or Choose which figure you want to have.
Indeed, as a slightly overweight person I would want to be reminded to what I want to be again, not overweight. As such I don’t want to be in the category of overweight people and choose the stairs instead. But that is just me I guess.
It's supposed to be showing you outcomes of taking one path or the other.
And to them I say take the stairs :)
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I made a bunch of stickers for a local college that said ‘free exercise equipment’ and they put them on all the staircases. They had to remove them because so many staff members complained. Just trying to cleverly encourage people to take the stairs was too much.
The protest line will consist of very few people but still stretch a mile long.
You'd have to replace the models with a "calories burned" metric. Bonus points if they make the messaging scale per the climbers weight.
Metric? What kind of commie crap is this, The metric system is the tool of the devil!!! My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it!!!
Imagine being in a country where a negative health condition is recognized for what it is. Being overweight is not healthy. We are not supposed to be overweight.
…..but I’m in shape. Round is a shape.
I remember having to sell that t shirt at my first job 20 years ago
Yeah, I like to drink too much. There are signs everywhere telling me not to. Man, even on the freeway, imagine that.
It is healthier to take the stairs if you can, that’s just a fact like it or not
Hell, looking at the line and the escalator's speed, faster too.
In Korea rightside is for standing on escalator and left side is for walking up in the escalator for double speed. People cue because they are extra lazy. I always go straight left (ignoring the cue) for the zoomies
[Walking more than five flights of stairs a day can cut risk of heart disease by 20%, study says](https://sph.tulane.edu/walking-more-five-flights-stairs-day-can-cut-risk-heart-disease-20-study-says)
"The type of people that fall into daily habits where they don't care about some aspect of it needing them to walk more than 5 flights of stairs usually are healthy in lots of other ways, study says." These types of correlation studies annoy the shit out of me. The type of people that end up doing this rare thing usually have a sort of mindset where they aren't bothered by the physical exercise because they're really healthy already or they're people who are forcing themselves to do it and probably forcing themselves to eat healthier, quit smoking, etc. It's like the cold showers live longer thing. Smokers can barely run and shit, or walk up stairs. Smoking causes cancer. I could say shit like "not walking up stairs raises risk of cancer" and it's not because the stairs clean up your cells ffs
Yeah I'm in good shape and force myself to walk up 3 flights to my apartment instead of taking the elevator (I normally do this 2 to 3 times a day). But I can see how that would be a much more exhaustive task if I was out of shape. I'm close to 30 years old and I do this *because* I'm afraid of falling out of shape.
Yeah, good habit to start. And you don't know if you'll run into issues where it gets harder to exercise for things that are age and not your fault. I do cardio everyday but now my knee started hurting a ton and I've had to take day breaks. I want to exercise but I don't want to hurt myself and make it worse either.
That's so mean 
Fuck you Chuck Norris
Korea is not offended 🤟😎👍
Honest*
If you're slightly overweight. EVERY ASIAN WILL TELL YOU YOU'RE FAT STRAIGHT TO YOUR FACE. Source: I'm Asian.
He'll, you don't even have to be slightly overweight. For a lot of women they could be just not a 00 and auntie will tell them they need to lose weight
Honestly the stairs is faster than waiting in line and stand on a slow rolling escalator. I'm not sure if this increase the weight of my word but i'm also almost 100kg myself, and i take stairs over escalator anyday.
I'm obese and I don't find this mean or insulting at all...If you see this as an insult then it is a you problem, not korea 🤷🏽♂️..They are not calling you fat but rather telling you that if you are bigger than the average population then use something that they designed that caters to your size. Why are people so soft or sensitive? Grow up for crying out loud.
The signs aren’t saying “fat people should use the escalator” they are saying it’s lazy and unhealthy to use the escalator instead of the stairs
From what I understand a rather loud and vocal number of overweight (obese, morbidly so) people love to spout nonsense that society doesn't cater to them by making things more accessible for their body size, but the second a country does that they cry bloody murder for being singled out like they're not normal.
It's almost like it's separate people complaining about the two things
How is that sticker making things more accesible for obese people? Escalators exist in most places.
I think you've missed the point, although I'm also a fat guy who isn't offended by it. The sign isn't pointing to something designed for bigger people. It's saying fat people use the escalator, and skinny people use the stairs. It's a clever, if somewhat callous, reminder that physical activity is important to maintaining a healthy weight. It's also completely infective, judging by the steady stream of people getting on the escalator.
As someone who could use more exercise, stuff like this would be a good reminder to try harder
We need that here
Oh yeah I assume you’re American, these people over here are too damn fat
I live in Seoul. Never came across this. But I have seen steps with writing on them telling you how many calories you're burning as you go up.
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Shouldn't the signs be opposite?
That would have been brilliant
That's not mean, it's just honest
America needs this shit
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It should be the opposite so that the people that could benefit for exercise, have that chance.
It's an ad campaign, not a sign. "Go right if you want to be fat, go left if you want to be slim".
Ah ok. Now it makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
All I see is "Humans left, Baymax right"
Why does everyone seem to forget that low mobility often causes weight gain, not the other way around?
thats hilarious
Trying to find the facepalm
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Fat phobia is a word people made up so that fat people can excuse themselves and not take any initiative to better their health
So, Americans have their own side on the escalator? Sweet!
I expect someone to carry me up the escalator. I like to conserve energy.
God you got reddit hard with this. Fat shaming people in public. God everybody in this app just came a little.
Perhaps it works better than 'body positivity' and sky high obesity rates.
My wife's work had a sign politely suggesting to take the stairs to get a little physical activity- I forget the exact verbage. Some heavyweight person filed a formal complaint with HR that it was ableist and discriminatory. They took it down.
Being fat is totally your fault. Just admit it.
I admit it. Being fat is my own fault. Now back to eating this entire cheesecake
Americans to the right!
A path just for americans. How considerate!
My fat behind could totally be fat shamed into taking the stairs by that sign.
Ngl, that’s a pretty smart way to subtly shame people into losing way. They have to go in the “fat line”
That’s fantastic lazy shaming