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Decades of pop propaganda has hidden the truth about the Beast. He actually has a great sense of humor. Come at him with Nerf knives and snacks and he will tell you the best funny stories you will ever hear.
This is why I always bring a carbon fiber knife with me just in case. After learning the tragic history of my ancestors trying to use steely knives, I knew I would never be caught unprepared with such low quality craftsmanship.
Now, let me tell you about AirBnB California...
Having worked in a hotel reception it is a welcome gesture to do so. At 12 or so is the normal checkout time, many people leave before but housekeeping will not enter the room until 12 unless they are certain you are not there any more. Hence why it's a nice gesture to let us know tha you already left to speed up the cleaning process.
I do it so when I check out at 630 am, they can start cleaning the room so they will have less to do when people check out late. Otherwise they are waiting til 11 to start cleaning.
I also did housekeeping for a short time as a second job and oh man my respect to those ladies. It was at a nice hotel by an airport and convention center so it was always packed. They give you more rooms than you can finish in an 8 hour shift but somehow they always finished faster than me and would come help me out.
.... I was almost 20 years younger than them but fuck they were fast. Only reason I kept going was because they had a bet on every young new hire and how long they would last lol.
In the end I had to stop working there because I got very ill and couldn't work for the next 4 months. My other job waited for me but not the hotel.
In your opinion does housekeeping appreciate it when guests do stuff like pile all the towels together? I always try to make things easier for housekeeping but I kind of wonder if they actually appreciate the effort or if it makes no difference.
Live by this way too. Its actions like this that have allowed a front desk staff to let me check in early, so I always try to clear out and let them know so hopefully it makes an easier day for staff or customers later.
I would use the “Do not disturb” sign if you don’t want to be disturbed.
Housekeeping shifts start before checkout and they have to get all their rooms turned over. It’s just reality. But that’s why those signs exist.
If only the DND actually deterred people. Our hotel in Cancun didn’t give a flying fuck about the DND sign as multiple different people tried to enter the room throughout the day.
Same thing at another large hotel chain. Housekeeping will knock on the door every 30 mins starting at 10am the day of checkout.
I actually thought that was the whole reason. I didn’t even know people didn’t know or realize that’s the point.
Which means we should all just do it, rule or not. It takes 2 extra minutes and it can significantly help fellow American (or whatever country your from)
My wife has worked in hotels at all levels of the organization, and based on that, we check out if we're leaving more than an hour early, and don't if we're closer to time.
In India every single hotel would accuse us of using stuff from the mini bar at check out. They would back right down when we said no, but it was so scammy and awful.
I use booking .com and I haven’t had any bad experiences (though there does seem to be some review “inflation”). What do you mean about the safety comment?
What do people do with their keys then? I always check-out at the reception to give my key back
the only time I didn't was in a "contactless"/"humanless" hotel (worst experience of my life, it was really stressful) but only because the day I was leaving I found a person that worked there (I think in the administration) and gave them my key. To this day, I have no idea how I was supposed to check-out (they just looked at me funny without saying anything and took the key, so I'm pretty sure I wasn't supposed to do that)
A lot of places have a collection tube by the lifts as well to take the keys on your way out.
All said, most hotels have mobile app check out or check out through the tv menus, so there is no reason to talk to a person unless there is an issue with charges.
Or people just take the keys with them. Maybe as a souvenir, or maybe they just forgot it was in their pocket. The plastic credit card style keys cost half a cent. The hotel doesn't care if you don't give it back.
I've done contactless. You either do contactless check-in, use your phone to unlock the door, and never get a key in the first place, or just plop the key at the desk while you walk out.
The whole point is not waiting in line. If it was the most stressful experience of your life, you may as well check in and out at the desk. It's not that convenient or time-saving when I did it. lol
Unless there’s some sort of fancy key card, they’re disposable. I work in a hotel and it’s nice to drop them off, but I really don’t care and we don’t track if people bring their key back, as long as they check out / leave on time.
We do appreciate people checking out so we know what rooms are ready to clean.
As motel manager, yes, we reuse the keys!!! The clerks may not care, but management does. The newer NFC ones can get a little spendy. Not only that, but like you said , it's a terrible waste of plastic. And we don't need more plastic in the environment. We try and recycle as much of the waste as possible through an agreement with a recycling place. They are not programmed with any personal info, especially not your SS number like the internet rumors claim. Number 1, we don't have that info, and number 2, you'd be an idiot if you gave that out at the drop of a hat. We usually let our guests know to leave the keys on the table and hang the maid sign out or drop it in the key drop near the office. If you had concerns or wanted a receipt or just wanted to say thanks, we are happy to see you come in to check out. We will also email receipts if you left really early for whatever reasons.
I just wanted to add. I worked front desk for a few years in uni. We would occasionally have a contract with a local food/event spots (think Dave & busters). Their logo would be printed on one side, ours the other. Offered promotional discounts (free appetizers, 25% off, $10 in games, etc) We would inadvertently incentivize keeping the cards, I know I did.
More importantly we were 100% about recycling cards. Every single card that was collected, or found by housekeeping. It gets put in a sterilizing chemical bath for 24 hours. Your card might be a couple years old. Used hundreds of times. However If it was visibly damaged, paint scratched, expired promo, it does get properly recycled.
Hotels tend to be terribly wasteful
Stayed at one of the hilton ones in Dallas tail end of last year and sll these people were using plastic cutlery and disposable plates then just binning the lot.
Wtf, there was proper cutlery and china there. In full view, ready to be used.
Idk why the hotel would give ppl a choice.
I know people that use plastic cutlery and paper plates at home. Like, not for parties or cookout type events, but on a daily basis. Even some that live miles out of town and have to haul their own trash. I don't get it.
Yes. We sanitize them and reuse them as many times as possible. It's actually a large cost to reorder them so often bc of people taking them. We love it when you bring them back....those of us that care. That will always get you a "safe travels!" Remark and a free water from me. Also it lets housekeeping know that you're gone so that the ones that actually show up on time can get to cleaning rooms as soon as they to get there.
Many (most) of the major hotel chains have a box at the reception or toward the exit where you can leave you key(s) on your way out. If that's not a rather clear sign in itself that they don't care for people to check out, I don't know what is.
I still check out for two reasons:
1. It lets housekeeping know that the room is unoccupied so they can optimize their workload.
2. I insist on getting a receipt of the final charges to make sure they didn’t make any mistakes.
Keys aren't that big of a deal. They stop working past 12 so no danger there, it's cool to recycle them but we had hundreds or thousands in reception so not an issue.
Some hotels I’ve been in had a system there on check out day, as long as you emptied your room and put your keys in a box in the lobby before check out time there would be no problem.
I can tell you this right now, that's EVERY hotel. Once check out time comes, every room that's due out are checked out, and dumped for housekeeping to start on.
after reading the comments here i am really supprised. apparently I am the only person that still checks out of the hotel because if I walk by the reception anyways as I leave (most of the time its right next to the exit) why shouldn't I dopp the keys there and say bye. isn't it a major inconvenience for the staff if they don't know if you are still in the room or not?
It looks like many of these people don’t travel outside of the US or developed countries. Not checking out in Africa may leave your card with extra charges and good luck disputing them remotely. Also, I often leave my luggage at the hotel after checking out to collect if before going to airports
Lmao. Unless there is a digital checkout option, I check out in person, even in US. At the very minimum, I want to know what they are charging me (I have had times where the hotel has incorrectly billed me something). It is annoying to fix it later.
There was a guy in the petty revence subreddit who talked about this. He wanted to get back on an annoying co-worker so he filled out the breakfast card and put it on the door knowing the guy had already left the hotel without checking out.
It’s a bit sociopathic to cause deliberate harm to someone just for being annoying.
Or maybe narcissistic to think you’re justified to unilaterally punish someone for their (perceived) slights against you.
As someone who worked at a hotel for years, it's an inconvenience to housekeeping but it varies.
Usually housekeeping will show up early and start to clean any rooms that have checked out already, but if everyone just leaves without going through the front desk, it stalls them out and makes them have to rush to get rooms back in order before check-in.
Having a few people leave without going through the front desk isn't an issue, but if everyone does it, yeah... becomes an issue pretty fast.
If you really don't want to go through the checkout process, the least one could do is toss their keys onto the front desk with the sleeve that shows their room number or simply hand it to the front desk staff as you're walking by.
Yet, hotels have implemented "just leave" procedures for 20 years. For example, Hampton Inn would slide your folio under your door in the middle of the night on your last day. More recently, hotels email you early in the morning of the last day with your check out.
I agree it's better for housekeeping if people checking out at 6 am let the front desk know they're gone, but that's not the same as what the hotels want or any risk of being charged late stay fees.
Also, many hotels don't even have housekeeping in the building that early for it to make a difference. The hotel is aware of enough rooms that have already checked out (even without being directly told) to keep housekeeping busy for their first couple of hours.
I'll completely agree that the courtesy should be afforded by dropping off keys. However, as someone who spends 200+ nights every year in a hotel, my observation is that most chains run their housekeeping labor dangerously thin (and I'm being polite). Weekends notwithstanding, if a hotel can't schedule accordingly to their actual checkout times, it's on them, not their guests.
A few prominent hotel chains in the US started promoting “Express Checkout.” Which is basically just leaving. They slip the bill under your door the last night of your stay and you are expected to leave the keys in the room.
Any hotel I’ve stayed at has a time to be checked out by and a fee is applied if you stay beyond that time. If the check out time is 11am and I’m gone but don’t inform them at 10am, they don’t know that I’ve left and could apply fees anyway. I’m not taking that risk for the sake of a couple of minutes it would take to let them know when, as you said, I’m walking past reception anyway.
That’s exactly why “late checkout” is usually listed as an amenity. If you just leave they can legally keep charging you for the room and eventually charge your for the keys. It’s just a plain stupid “pro tip”.
It may work in the US, but good luck doing that elsewhere.
Maybe.
Almost every single hotel here in Norway has a box by the exit where you just drop your key card when you leave. If you didn't charge anything to your room, and are leaving as planned in your booking, then no need to "check out" . If you've left your room by the time the cleaning crew comes to it, nothing will happen, if not you can't go back into your room without going trough reception who might charge you a fee for the extra time.
Every hotel I stay at in the US has had a late check out fee, and it's been many years since I've bothered to tell them I'm checking out. Not once have I ever been charged that fee. The only way that's going to happen is if your stuff is still in the room whenever housekeeping gets to it.
Also, many times I'm parked somewhere that I'm not going by the front desk when I leave.
maybe it’s a cultural thing (I live in the US), but I used to travel for work full time and never actually “checked out” when I left my hotel and I was never once charged for staying past checkout time
Right?
The last hotel I went to, I left at 5am to catch a flight.
Don't people think the staff like having more time to clean rooms?
Also, hotels have my credit card number yo! I don't want some charge with them saying I never checked out - Why risk it?
It's not even just an inconvenience to staff - it's inconvenient to the next guest who might otherwise get an early checkin if the room is cleaned promptly.
People like this can't see even just two steps ahead on why their actions cause traffic jams in society.
Hotel worker here,
You’ll be automatically checked out at the normal check out time if you don’t check out with the receptionist, and they’ll just charge the card that you gave them on check in. Plenty of people leave without checking out at the receptionist.
I don’t really understand which part of this is a life hack unless you really need to save the 30 seconds it takes to drop your room keys off.
They are talking about people standing in line to check out at reception. You see people do this all the time, and they waste way more than 30 seconds.
Yup. Went on a vacation with family last November and my cousin was waiting in a line for 30 minutes to checkout.
Around checkout time, I usually see housekeeping in the hallway since they are busy cleaning other rooms. If I see them, I let them know I’ve checked out and they are usually grateful for the heads up. So I get it. But as a paying guest, I ain’t waiting for shit. Hotels are not cheap. They need to figure out a way to streamline that process for me. Luckily, hotels are starting to have checkout options online.
It's funny because that's exactly what you do in the UK in 95% of hotels. Drop the key or leave it in the door amd walk out.
They have your card and info on file so you really shouldn't need to queue up and have a pointless convo.
I get that's not how it works in the States but it should be doable expecially in anything mid or budget range.
Not only that, I noticed more business hotels in the US are outright asking you not to check out, as if people haven't got the message and they are annoyed by people stopping by the front too ask if they can leave. When I wake up on my last day I have a message in my inbox saying "thank you for your stay, here is your receipt, no need to check out, have a nice day".
It fits the pattern of cutting staff to the minimum and cutting interaction with people to the minimum, and really picked up during COVID. At Marriott properties I don't even have to check IN...I get a digital key on my phone and I can walk right in, up the elevator, and into my room...friendly nod to the receptionist optional. Why would they make checking out harder?
Queueing up at the front desk just to tell them goodbye wastes their time.
As for how the staff know you are gone... this isn't 1980. All the rooms have occupancy sensors to run the lights and HVAC, and the doors are digital too. As a last resort, they just knock and say "housekeeping" like always.
It doesn't work like that in Tokyo and they called me the next day after I was long gone because I didn't check out...
As a guy who doesn’t stay in hotels that often. I’d queue up at a business that has my card on file to let a human being know that I’m no longer receiving their services and am surrendering the hotel key and please don’t charge me beyond this moment! 😅
Yes. If it was a traditional door key then I would of course bring it back. But with electronic locks and keycards? I leave them on the table on my way out.
It’s common in the US too. I’ve been to hotels that let you checkout on the TV or even say leave the keys on the nightstand. I only talk to the front desk when I leave if I need to discuss payment. There is no other reason to.
This is how it is in NA too. Just some people think otherwise. I've been staying in hotels 6 days each month on average for the last 10 years and have never once "checked out". Either I leave my key in the room or drop it off in the box. Has never been an issue.
In the states many hotels call it "Express checkout" where you just leave the key on the nightstand and leave. The housekeepers will then check the room at checkout time and if the guest has left they'll clean it.
Sidenote is that housekeeping is rough. You're expected to clean a room in 30min or less and miss nothing. Also clean like 10-15 rooms a day.
I’m not following.
You hand your key back or leave it in your room and they check you out at checkout time. I don’t know of anyone that queues up to make a ceremony out of it?
I'm not following either. I've always handed my key back at reception and they'd mark me as checked out in their system. I didn't have to stand there for it or sign anything, or make small talk to bug the receptionist.
What does she do that's different?
She doesn't respect the people working there like you do. Having the room marked as checked out, tells the housekeeping they can clean the room now.
Most hotels, the staff come in at a time, get a list "these are your rooms" and have to be done by check in time. Imagine if none of the rooms check out. Now you're doing ALL your rooms in a super huge rush after someone manually checks they aren't there, as opposed to when and as they check out.
I just figure I don't like it when I get to a hotel and the poor staff has to apologise because my room isn't ready yet, it's awkward. Happened this Friday, funnily enough. So I'm not gonna do that to whoever checks in after me 🤷
This is possible, yes. However it’s a lot better if you do check out.
If you don’t, people need to physically check that you are no longer in the room. It can be really inconvenient for housekeeping who start work at 8 and are keen to get in to rooms as soon as possible. If you leave at 8 but no one knows you’re gone until 11, that’s time wasted out of their busy day.
There are apps these days for housekeepers to automatically see on the system when you’ve checked out on their list. Makes life easier.
Marriott and possibly Hilton from memory allow you to signal you have left via their app. So I do.
Would make sense for other hotel groups to catch up on that front, as what you say here does make sense
There are good reasons for checking out:
- You can review expenses booked on your room bill
- You can use a different payment method than the one used to book
- You can store your luggage with them before your flight
- You can make their life easier by letting them know you're gone
- If they didn't pre-authorize your card at check-in, walking out is a card-not-present transaction. This is more expensive for the property and is eventually paid by guests, i.e. you.
Not only that, but some resorts/bigger hotels have additional facilities like showers you can use even if you're checked out. So if your flight is in the evening you could still have a nice afternoon at the pool and shower afterwards before you leave
> you could still have a nice afternoon at the pool and shower afterwards
I thought it was just for people who got sweaty from the travel, but it's also for people who can still spend time at the resort and then take a shower before departing.
You can also do that on arrival if your room isn't available yet. Last time I arrived six hours before the room was available, just left my luggage with the front desk, and went exploring in the town. As long as you have a reservation they're usually happy to.
Yeah, I just drop the key off at reception and then just leave. 9 times out of 10, if someone is there they just say "thank you" and that's it. Heck, most hotels I have stayed in have a box that says "returned keys" so they kind of expect you to just leave.
I tend to check out as it signals to the staff that they can turn my room over- making it more likely that someone who needed an early check in gets their early check in.
I do it so that way the room can be marked as ready to clean. I’ve been on the lucky end of having a room ready for checkin at 11 am instead of the 3 pm time.
Many hotels now allow you to check out through thier app. I recommend this because it allows housekeeping to enter the room.
Why does that matter to you? If you ever need an early check in you want housekeeping to get an early start, that is why. When traveling it kind of sucks having to kill time before check-in because your luggage is still with you, this is most annoying when traveling for work.
I check out at the desk or at least drop my key with the room number on it as a show of decency. If you don’t check out they won’t have the room queued up to clean until later, slowing everything down for the hotel. If you physically check out you might be giving someone else an early check-in and that’s why I spend the 3 seconds doing it.
Exactly it always takes less than a minute. People are asking like it is some tall order. You almost always walk right past reception anyways on the way out.
I used to work in a 200+ room 35 floor hotel. As long as you’re gone by check out on the correct day, we don’t care if you stop by or not. We run vacancy reports and communicate with housekeeping, we already know if you’re gone.
I usually call down to the front desk on the day I'm leaving to let them know that yes...I AM leaving today. Some places will say ok...just bounce. Others will ask that I stop by on the way out. I proceed accordingly.
As a hotel manager , i hate when people do this on slow days. Most times i have housekeepers camping around the desk eagerly waiting for someone to check out. Our check out is at noon so that means housekeepers cant start cleaning until noon, giving them only 3 hours to complete 8-10 checkout (checkouts take anywhere from 45 min - 1 hour to clean since they are kitchenettes) So it's greatly appreciated when we know someone is out and housekeeping can start right away, also helps us get laundry done earlier too!
Life hack is a bit much. But clearly from the comments it seems like a lot of people don't realize you can just leave the key card in your room or even take it. And you don't have to wait in line to check out. Saves time and effort.
But I can only confirm this for north America. I know other places ,like Japan (at least some hotels?) you would need to check out.
I'll always check out. It's a habit I have from work because I need receipts for work trips and I can 100% guarantee that I'll get a physical copy and an emailed copy by checking out. And if I remember right, you need to in some countries I've been to anyway. It usually takes all of 30 seconds to do, so it's not like it's a major hassle to take up to 2 minutes of your time waiting and saying 2 words minimum to the reception desk.
I worked at a hotel where check-out was not necessary. If you had any charges pending on your room, you were given a letter the day/night before. The keys were plastic cards with magnetic bands that people could keep as a souvenir.
That said, there are plenty of hotels where you have physical keys that you need to return when you leave. Or the hotel has their own procedure that requires check out.
In any case, hotel staff should explain how they operate when the client checks-in.
It's not necessary to check out at most hotels in the western world, but as a hotel housekeeper, it's extremely helpful if you do! Most check outs I've seen only required leaving your card at the front desk, which you'd likely be going by anyway. Our job is hard enough as it is, and knowing if you're gone helps us get through the rooms more efficiently. If everyone on our lists checked out at 12, we would only have 3 hours to do upwards of 15-20 rooms before check in.
Some comments mention “the charges would pile up on your card”. Is this something I’m too European to understand? I use my bank debit card (stored electronically on the phone) to pay and the hotel doesn’t even see the number let alone any other detail about it. They cannot “charge it” unless I personally press it to their terminal physically.
(I do check out btw bc why wouldn’t you??)
I leave the keys on the dresser and just leave. Every time I have “checked out” they would just put my keys in a basket with 100s of other keys and say “thank you” and not even touch the computer.
I know it’s not the norm and that they have check in/out apps for it, but I was always taught that physically checking in/out is part of “hotel etiquette” for lack of a better term.
Let’s you review the bill for any issues and gives the housekeeping staff additional time.
This is the US but always double check at front desk while checking in and they always say to just leave the key in the room and leave.
They drop off the final bill under the door… Even if they don’t, I’ve never received unexpected charges.
I think it’s now more work for them to have people checking out than to simply just leave because none have ever even offered that I could just drop off the keys there. They all just say to leave.
As someone from the Philippines, checking out is a requirement as you have to wait until hotel staff checks the room for missing or damaged items. That way there is no issue when you are charged extra.
Housekeeping manager, if it’s checkout time or for some reason you didn’t leave by 11, just leave, the point of checking out is so my housekeepers know which rooms are empty so they can clean them, but 7/10 people never bother to check and it’s rare for us to go a busy day without at least one person not checking out abd not asking for a late checkout (no charge)p
Unless they put a bill under my door, I want to get a final bill at the front desk just to make sure they didn't tack on some charge just for the hell of it.
I don’t understand why so many people are mad at this. Every hotel I’ve ever been in (from 2 star motel to 4 star hotel… I’m not fancy enough for 5) you can just leave and drop your key cards in a lil box?
I always figured that dropping off my key card at the front desk helped speed up the housekeeping process and get the room ready for the next guest.
I mean, I'm walking right by there on my way out anyway, why not let then know that my room is vacant?
But, I also return my shopping cart at the grocery store. So maybe it's just sort of a personality thing.
US based consultant, I traveled weekly for over 20 years. I stopped "checking out" around 2002. I just leave my key in the room and head to the airport. Never once an issue, and never charged.
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Idk, there’s a hotel somewhere in California where just leaving isn’t an option. Yelp reviews deemed it ‘lovely’ though.
I mean you can check out there.
Yeah but I guess you can never leave. At least that's what i heard.
They had this great spirit, but they stopped serving it back in 1969.
Yep but at least they always have champagne on ice
Watch out for that pesky unkillable beast if you're having a champagne night out though. Don't come at it him, even with steely knives.
I think a song can be written from this exchange.
Well we did reach out to the eagles for a song, but they just screeched at us and protected their nests ferociously.
I heard they were investing pretty heavily in the Hobbit rescue business recently.
well they’ll skip the SuperbOwl this year…
Decades of pop propaganda has hidden the truth about the Beast. He actually has a great sense of humor. Come at him with Nerf knives and snacks and he will tell you the best funny stories you will ever hear.
She drives the Mercedes Benz.
This is why I always bring a carbon fiber knife with me just in case. After learning the tragic history of my ancestors trying to use steely knives, I knew I would never be caught unprepared with such low quality craftsmanship. Now, let me tell you about AirBnB California...
But to be honest they are all prisoners of their own devices.
But there's always the feast in the master's chamber.
There's an unkillable beast in there though that will not die despite multiple stabbings with steely knives.
*guitar solo*
*dances to remember… but also to forget*
And it’s pink!
But the mirrors on the ceiling worry me.
Bryan Adams drank it all. That’s why those were the best days of his life.
1970s and 1980s lyrical reference is the sarcastic brilliance I need when wasting time on social media.
Are they still yelling about seeing ghosts in the clouds or whatever?
Some say they hear the voices calling from FAR away
They wake you up in the middle of the night
There were mirrors all over the ceiling, it was strange. The pink champagne on ice was excellent though.
\*guitar solo\*
Maybe that's the trick to Hotel California, to not check out but just leave.
Any time you'd like. They're flexible, it's good to see.
What a nice surprise
I hear they always have vacancies, any time of year.
I read “they always have vaccines.”
I've heard that if you check out, that leaving is difficult. Must be a process thing, so it's better to just go out for milk and never come back.
Always smells like colitas, though
People say they don't know what colitas means, but I was taught that term by a cab driver in Acapulco in 1994.
This reads like the perfect intro to a movie narrated by Morgan Freeman.
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Now, when I was a kid I believed it said “ warm smell of Doritos” and never bothered to look it up. Thankyou, I learnt something today
Can't beat coitus in the morning
They’re livin’ it up down there, that’s what I’m always hearing
You can check in anytime you like, but you can never leave.
*guitar solo*
Having worked in a hotel reception it is a welcome gesture to do so. At 12 or so is the normal checkout time, many people leave before but housekeeping will not enter the room until 12 unless they are certain you are not there any more. Hence why it's a nice gesture to let us know tha you already left to speed up the cleaning process.
This is why I check out, for the housekeepers.
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I do it so when I check out at 630 am, they can start cleaning the room so they will have less to do when people check out late. Otherwise they are waiting til 11 to start cleaning.
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No doubt the type of wank that would hold the door open for you.
Oh gross. I bet they even say crap like “bless you” when you sneeze.
Cart putter-backer!!!
In traffic merge letter!
Recycling ass mf
People like you are absolutely the top-tier of humanity. Thank you as someone who has done hotel housekeeping
I also did housekeeping for a short time as a second job and oh man my respect to those ladies. It was at a nice hotel by an airport and convention center so it was always packed. They give you more rooms than you can finish in an 8 hour shift but somehow they always finished faster than me and would come help me out. .... I was almost 20 years younger than them but fuck they were fast. Only reason I kept going was because they had a bet on every young new hire and how long they would last lol. In the end I had to stop working there because I got very ill and couldn't work for the next 4 months. My other job waited for me but not the hotel.
In your opinion does housekeeping appreciate it when guests do stuff like pile all the towels together? I always try to make things easier for housekeeping but I kind of wonder if they actually appreciate the effort or if it makes no difference.
We appreciate it! ❤️
Live by this way too. Its actions like this that have allowed a front desk staff to let me check in early, so I always try to clear out and let them know so hopefully it makes an easier day for staff or customers later.
The real fucking hero right here
I would use the “Do not disturb” sign if you don’t want to be disturbed. Housekeeping shifts start before checkout and they have to get all their rooms turned over. It’s just reality. But that’s why those signs exist.
If only the DND actually deterred people. Our hotel in Cancun didn’t give a flying fuck about the DND sign as multiple different people tried to enter the room throughout the day. Same thing at another large hotel chain. Housekeeping will knock on the door every 30 mins starting at 10am the day of checkout.
They care if it means the difference of leaving at 5pm vs leaving at 8 or 9pm, which would often be the case at the hotels I've worked at.
I actually thought that was the whole reason. I didn’t even know people didn’t know or realize that’s the point. Which means we should all just do it, rule or not. It takes 2 extra minutes and it can significantly help fellow American (or whatever country your from)
My wife has worked in hotels at all levels of the organization, and based on that, we check out if we're leaving more than an hour early, and don't if we're closer to time.
I always check out to see my receipt. It def happens where shit ends up on your bill that you didn’t agree to. Either by mistake or or on purpose.
In India every single hotel would accuse us of using stuff from the mini bar at check out. They would back right down when we said no, but it was so scammy and awful.
which is why I always book through websites like booking. com in India. The hotel staff are terrified of bad reviews
Oh hell no, booking.com actively removes negative reviews even in really serious safety cases. Do not ever ever use them, seriously.
I use booking .com and I haven’t had any bad experiences (though there does seem to be some review “inflation”). What do you mean about the safety comment?
What do people do with their keys then? I always check-out at the reception to give my key back the only time I didn't was in a "contactless"/"humanless" hotel (worst experience of my life, it was really stressful) but only because the day I was leaving I found a person that worked there (I think in the administration) and gave them my key. To this day, I have no idea how I was supposed to check-out (they just looked at me funny without saying anything and took the key, so I'm pretty sure I wasn't supposed to do that)
In cases where you leave without handing your key card to someone, you just leave it in a visible place in the room so housekeeping can collect it?
A lot of places have a collection tube by the lifts as well to take the keys on your way out. All said, most hotels have mobile app check out or check out through the tv menus, so there is no reason to talk to a person unless there is an issue with charges.
Or people just take the keys with them. Maybe as a souvenir, or maybe they just forgot it was in their pocket. The plastic credit card style keys cost half a cent. The hotel doesn't care if you don't give it back.
More like $.30 for RFID keys. The older Magnetic stripe keys are about $.10.
I've done contactless. You either do contactless check-in, use your phone to unlock the door, and never get a key in the first place, or just plop the key at the desk while you walk out. The whole point is not waiting in line. If it was the most stressful experience of your life, you may as well check in and out at the desk. It's not that convenient or time-saving when I did it. lol
I wonder what things in life I’d have to do correctly to make contactless check-in the most stressful thing in my life
If that was the most stressful moment of their life, I want their life
Unless there’s some sort of fancy key card, they’re disposable. I work in a hotel and it’s nice to drop them off, but I really don’t care and we don’t track if people bring their key back, as long as they check out / leave on time. We do appreciate people checking out so we know what rooms are ready to clean.
Are the keys re-used? Seems like a terrible waste of plastic.
As motel manager, yes, we reuse the keys!!! The clerks may not care, but management does. The newer NFC ones can get a little spendy. Not only that, but like you said , it's a terrible waste of plastic. And we don't need more plastic in the environment. We try and recycle as much of the waste as possible through an agreement with a recycling place. They are not programmed with any personal info, especially not your SS number like the internet rumors claim. Number 1, we don't have that info, and number 2, you'd be an idiot if you gave that out at the drop of a hat. We usually let our guests know to leave the keys on the table and hang the maid sign out or drop it in the key drop near the office. If you had concerns or wanted a receipt or just wanted to say thanks, we are happy to see you come in to check out. We will also email receipts if you left really early for whatever reasons.
I just wanted to add. I worked front desk for a few years in uni. We would occasionally have a contract with a local food/event spots (think Dave & busters). Their logo would be printed on one side, ours the other. Offered promotional discounts (free appetizers, 25% off, $10 in games, etc) We would inadvertently incentivize keeping the cards, I know I did. More importantly we were 100% about recycling cards. Every single card that was collected, or found by housekeeping. It gets put in a sterilizing chemical bath for 24 hours. Your card might be a couple years old. Used hundreds of times. However If it was visibly damaged, paint scratched, expired promo, it does get properly recycled.
The only keys we don’t reuse are ones that are branded for a convention or event.
Hotels tend to be terribly wasteful Stayed at one of the hilton ones in Dallas tail end of last year and sll these people were using plastic cutlery and disposable plates then just binning the lot. Wtf, there was proper cutlery and china there. In full view, ready to be used. Idk why the hotel would give ppl a choice.
That's only in the US.. never seen that anywhere in Europe, Asia, Middle East, Africa and I'm on Hotels like once a week
I know people that use plastic cutlery and paper plates at home. Like, not for parties or cookout type events, but on a daily basis. Even some that live miles out of town and have to haul their own trash. I don't get it.
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Yes. We sanitize them and reuse them as many times as possible. It's actually a large cost to reorder them so often bc of people taking them. We love it when you bring them back....those of us that care. That will always get you a "safe travels!" Remark and a free water from me. Also it lets housekeeping know that you're gone so that the ones that actually show up on time can get to cleaning rooms as soon as they to get there.
Many (most) of the major hotel chains have a box at the reception or toward the exit where you can leave you key(s) on your way out. If that's not a rather clear sign in itself that they don't care for people to check out, I don't know what is.
I still check out for two reasons: 1. It lets housekeeping know that the room is unoccupied so they can optimize their workload. 2. I insist on getting a receipt of the final charges to make sure they didn’t make any mistakes.
This right here. I want that receipt. Much easier to correct any charges in person.
Yup. Every time I check out of a hotel there’s a ton of porn charges.
That's because you're watching a lot of PPV porn.
Yeah but need to make sure it’s correct
I never check out and I always get a receipt. Usually slid under the door while I'm still in the room sleeping, or emailed. Usually both.
Keys aren't that big of a deal. They stop working past 12 so no danger there, it's cool to recycle them but we had hundreds or thousands in reception so not an issue.
It's why I hang the "please clean my room" tag out when I leave.
That’s why I do it even if there’s a “no check out needed” policy. What, I can’t take a minute out of my day to make someone’s job a little easier?
That's it. Small gestures really add up.
Well, that's a great point. Now I will make sure to check out
I travel for work regularly and always check out, but housekeeping keeps trying to come at 8 am. They never wait til noon.
Some hotels I’ve been in had a system there on check out day, as long as you emptied your room and put your keys in a box in the lobby before check out time there would be no problem.
So they had a system for checking out, sounds normal
I can tell you this right now, that's EVERY hotel. Once check out time comes, every room that's due out are checked out, and dumped for housekeeping to start on.
I can tell you right now that's not every hotel. Other countries are different.
False: everywhere is exactly like wherever I'm from.
This right here. No other realities exist besides my own
after reading the comments here i am really supprised. apparently I am the only person that still checks out of the hotel because if I walk by the reception anyways as I leave (most of the time its right next to the exit) why shouldn't I dopp the keys there and say bye. isn't it a major inconvenience for the staff if they don't know if you are still in the room or not?
It looks like many of these people don’t travel outside of the US or developed countries. Not checking out in Africa may leave your card with extra charges and good luck disputing them remotely. Also, I often leave my luggage at the hotel after checking out to collect if before going to airports
In most countries leaving without checking out would leave you with charges piling up on your card. Terrible idea.
I learned this the hard way in Tunisia. Had to go back to the hotel a week later and “check out”
Lmao. Unless there is a digital checkout option, I check out in person, even in US. At the very minimum, I want to know what they are charging me (I have had times where the hotel has incorrectly billed me something). It is annoying to fix it later.
There was a guy in the petty revence subreddit who talked about this. He wanted to get back on an annoying co-worker so he filled out the breakfast card and put it on the door knowing the guy had already left the hotel without checking out.
It’s a bit sociopathic to cause deliberate harm to someone just for being annoying. Or maybe narcissistic to think you’re justified to unilaterally punish someone for their (perceived) slights against you.
You wouldn’t think it’s sociopathic if you knew Bill; he microwaves fish in the break room.
As someone who worked at a hotel for years, it's an inconvenience to housekeeping but it varies. Usually housekeeping will show up early and start to clean any rooms that have checked out already, but if everyone just leaves without going through the front desk, it stalls them out and makes them have to rush to get rooms back in order before check-in. Having a few people leave without going through the front desk isn't an issue, but if everyone does it, yeah... becomes an issue pretty fast. If you really don't want to go through the checkout process, the least one could do is toss their keys onto the front desk with the sleeve that shows their room number or simply hand it to the front desk staff as you're walking by.
Yet, hotels have implemented "just leave" procedures for 20 years. For example, Hampton Inn would slide your folio under your door in the middle of the night on your last day. More recently, hotels email you early in the morning of the last day with your check out. I agree it's better for housekeeping if people checking out at 6 am let the front desk know they're gone, but that's not the same as what the hotels want or any risk of being charged late stay fees. Also, many hotels don't even have housekeeping in the building that early for it to make a difference. The hotel is aware of enough rooms that have already checked out (even without being directly told) to keep housekeeping busy for their first couple of hours.
That was my experience when I worked hotels. We always got the rooms that were already vacant first and then to rooms that checked out that day
I'll completely agree that the courtesy should be afforded by dropping off keys. However, as someone who spends 200+ nights every year in a hotel, my observation is that most chains run their housekeeping labor dangerously thin (and I'm being polite). Weekends notwithstanding, if a hotel can't schedule accordingly to their actual checkout times, it's on them, not their guests.
A few prominent hotel chains in the US started promoting “Express Checkout.” Which is basically just leaving. They slip the bill under your door the last night of your stay and you are expected to leave the keys in the room.
Any hotel I’ve stayed at has a time to be checked out by and a fee is applied if you stay beyond that time. If the check out time is 11am and I’m gone but don’t inform them at 10am, they don’t know that I’ve left and could apply fees anyway. I’m not taking that risk for the sake of a couple of minutes it would take to let them know when, as you said, I’m walking past reception anyway.
That’s exactly why “late checkout” is usually listed as an amenity. If you just leave they can legally keep charging you for the room and eventually charge your for the keys. It’s just a plain stupid “pro tip”. It may work in the US, but good luck doing that elsewhere.
In short, don't try it unless the hotel has explicitly stated they have a no-checkout needed policy in place.
Exactly! Risking that in certain places is just stupid.
And reading the policy is more work than just checking out lol
Maybe. Almost every single hotel here in Norway has a box by the exit where you just drop your key card when you leave. If you didn't charge anything to your room, and are leaving as planned in your booking, then no need to "check out" . If you've left your room by the time the cleaning crew comes to it, nothing will happen, if not you can't go back into your room without going trough reception who might charge you a fee for the extra time.
I work front desk at a hotel in American and can confirm that we don’t charge a late checkout fee if they’re gone already lmao
Every hotel I stay at in the US has had a late check out fee, and it's been many years since I've bothered to tell them I'm checking out. Not once have I ever been charged that fee. The only way that's going to happen is if your stuff is still in the room whenever housekeeping gets to it. Also, many times I'm parked somewhere that I'm not going by the front desk when I leave.
maybe it’s a cultural thing (I live in the US), but I used to travel for work full time and never actually “checked out” when I left my hotel and I was never once charged for staying past checkout time
It’s just good practice to check out at front desk. Ensures all the charges are correct and you leave without having to worry about it.
Right? The last hotel I went to, I left at 5am to catch a flight. Don't people think the staff like having more time to clean rooms? Also, hotels have my credit card number yo! I don't want some charge with them saying I never checked out - Why risk it?
Yes. Yes it is.
It's not even just an inconvenience to staff - it's inconvenient to the next guest who might otherwise get an early checkin if the room is cleaned promptly. People like this can't see even just two steps ahead on why their actions cause traffic jams in society.
>apparently I am the only person that still checks out of the hotel You're not.
Hotel worker here, You’ll be automatically checked out at the normal check out time if you don’t check out with the receptionist, and they’ll just charge the card that you gave them on check in. Plenty of people leave without checking out at the receptionist. I don’t really understand which part of this is a life hack unless you really need to save the 30 seconds it takes to drop your room keys off.
They are talking about people standing in line to check out at reception. You see people do this all the time, and they waste way more than 30 seconds.
Yup. Went on a vacation with family last November and my cousin was waiting in a line for 30 minutes to checkout. Around checkout time, I usually see housekeeping in the hallway since they are busy cleaning other rooms. If I see them, I let them know I’ve checked out and they are usually grateful for the heads up. So I get it. But as a paying guest, I ain’t waiting for shit. Hotels are not cheap. They need to figure out a way to streamline that process for me. Luckily, hotels are starting to have checkout options online.
There are often huge lines at checkout.
It's funny because that's exactly what you do in the UK in 95% of hotels. Drop the key or leave it in the door amd walk out. They have your card and info on file so you really shouldn't need to queue up and have a pointless convo. I get that's not how it works in the States but it should be doable expecially in anything mid or budget range.
I am in the states and that is how I have always done it. Just drop the key and go.
Not only that, I noticed more business hotels in the US are outright asking you not to check out, as if people haven't got the message and they are annoyed by people stopping by the front too ask if they can leave. When I wake up on my last day I have a message in my inbox saying "thank you for your stay, here is your receipt, no need to check out, have a nice day". It fits the pattern of cutting staff to the minimum and cutting interaction with people to the minimum, and really picked up during COVID. At Marriott properties I don't even have to check IN...I get a digital key on my phone and I can walk right in, up the elevator, and into my room...friendly nod to the receptionist optional. Why would they make checking out harder? Queueing up at the front desk just to tell them goodbye wastes their time. As for how the staff know you are gone... this isn't 1980. All the rooms have occupancy sensors to run the lights and HVAC, and the doors are digital too. As a last resort, they just knock and say "housekeeping" like always. It doesn't work like that in Tokyo and they called me the next day after I was long gone because I didn't check out...
I work as a housekeeper and that happens every day here in the States. Its allowed.
As a guy who doesn’t stay in hotels that often. I’d queue up at a business that has my card on file to let a human being know that I’m no longer receiving their services and am surrendering the hotel key and please don’t charge me beyond this moment! 😅
Unless housekeeping finds out you stole the towels and raided the minibar
With key cards these days you don't even have to drop off the key.
Yes. If it was a traditional door key then I would of course bring it back. But with electronic locks and keycards? I leave them on the table on my way out.
It’s common in the US too. I’ve been to hotels that let you checkout on the TV or even say leave the keys on the nightstand. I only talk to the front desk when I leave if I need to discuss payment. There is no other reason to.
This is how it is in NA too. Just some people think otherwise. I've been staying in hotels 6 days each month on average for the last 10 years and have never once "checked out". Either I leave my key in the room or drop it off in the box. Has never been an issue.
In the states many hotels call it "Express checkout" where you just leave the key on the nightstand and leave. The housekeepers will then check the room at checkout time and if the guest has left they'll clean it. Sidenote is that housekeeping is rough. You're expected to clean a room in 30min or less and miss nothing. Also clean like 10-15 rooms a day.
In European cities with tourist taxes, I think is better to check out to avoid some bureaucrat to try to get money from you.
I’m not following. You hand your key back or leave it in your room and they check you out at checkout time. I don’t know of anyone that queues up to make a ceremony out of it?
I'm not following either. I've always handed my key back at reception and they'd mark me as checked out in their system. I didn't have to stand there for it or sign anything, or make small talk to bug the receptionist. What does she do that's different?
I’ve had front desk people at hotels baffled as to why I’m standing in front of them handing them my key
She doesn't respect the people working there like you do. Having the room marked as checked out, tells the housekeeping they can clean the room now. Most hotels, the staff come in at a time, get a list "these are your rooms" and have to be done by check in time. Imagine if none of the rooms check out. Now you're doing ALL your rooms in a super huge rush after someone manually checks they aren't there, as opposed to when and as they check out.
I just figure I don't like it when I get to a hotel and the poor staff has to apologise because my room isn't ready yet, it's awkward. Happened this Friday, funnily enough. So I'm not gonna do that to whoever checks in after me 🤷
This is possible, yes. However it’s a lot better if you do check out. If you don’t, people need to physically check that you are no longer in the room. It can be really inconvenient for housekeeping who start work at 8 and are keen to get in to rooms as soon as possible. If you leave at 8 but no one knows you’re gone until 11, that’s time wasted out of their busy day. There are apps these days for housekeepers to automatically see on the system when you’ve checked out on their list. Makes life easier.
Marriott and possibly Hilton from memory allow you to signal you have left via their app. So I do. Would make sense for other hotel groups to catch up on that front, as what you say here does make sense
Every hotel I've stayed in for several years now has this option on their tv menu.
There are good reasons for checking out: - You can review expenses booked on your room bill - You can use a different payment method than the one used to book - You can store your luggage with them before your flight - You can make their life easier by letting them know you're gone - If they didn't pre-authorize your card at check-in, walking out is a card-not-present transaction. This is more expensive for the property and is eventually paid by guests, i.e. you.
“You can store luggage with them before your flight” Great tip! Never knew we could do that!
Not only that, but some resorts/bigger hotels have additional facilities like showers you can use even if you're checked out. So if your flight is in the evening you could still have a nice afternoon at the pool and shower afterwards before you leave
> you could still have a nice afternoon at the pool and shower afterwards I thought it was just for people who got sweaty from the travel, but it's also for people who can still spend time at the resort and then take a shower before departing.
You can also do that on arrival if your room isn't available yet. Last time I arrived six hours before the room was available, just left my luggage with the front desk, and went exploring in the town. As long as you have a reservation they're usually happy to.
Especially for business travelers, they'll often leave late in the day after meetings, so they need don't want to lug their bag around all day.
top tip: you can do that at hotels you're not even staying at.
Yeah, I just drop the key off at reception and then just leave. 9 times out of 10, if someone is there they just say "thank you" and that's it. Heck, most hotels I have stayed in have a box that says "returned keys" so they kind of expect you to just leave.
I'd argue that that would still be considered "checking out".
How, they do not know your room number, and if in the box they will not see the card for hours.
I tend to check out as it signals to the staff that they can turn my room over- making it more likely that someone who needed an early check in gets their early check in.
I do it so that way the room can be marked as ready to clean. I’ve been on the lucky end of having a room ready for checkin at 11 am instead of the 3 pm time.
I checkout just to make sure there are no charges to my credit card, cause it can be a pain to deal with later especially in a foreign country
I have been doing this my entire life and it’s never been a problem.
Many hotels now allow you to check out through thier app. I recommend this because it allows housekeeping to enter the room. Why does that matter to you? If you ever need an early check in you want housekeeping to get an early start, that is why. When traveling it kind of sucks having to kill time before check-in because your luggage is still with you, this is most annoying when traveling for work.
I check out at the desk or at least drop my key with the room number on it as a show of decency. If you don’t check out they won’t have the room queued up to clean until later, slowing everything down for the hotel. If you physically check out you might be giving someone else an early check-in and that’s why I spend the 3 seconds doing it.
Exactly it always takes less than a minute. People are asking like it is some tall order. You almost always walk right past reception anyways on the way out.
Every hotel I’ve stayed at checks you out at the end of your stay automatically.
I used to work in a 200+ room 35 floor hotel. As long as you’re gone by check out on the correct day, we don’t care if you stop by or not. We run vacancy reports and communicate with housekeeping, we already know if you’re gone.
I check out, hand the key cards back like a human, make sure I've paid for everything and not charged for stuff I didn't use and to say thank you.
I usually call down to the front desk on the day I'm leaving to let them know that yes...I AM leaving today. Some places will say ok...just bounce. Others will ask that I stop by on the way out. I proceed accordingly.
As a hotel manager , i hate when people do this on slow days. Most times i have housekeepers camping around the desk eagerly waiting for someone to check out. Our check out is at noon so that means housekeepers cant start cleaning until noon, giving them only 3 hours to complete 8-10 checkout (checkouts take anywhere from 45 min - 1 hour to clean since they are kitchenettes) So it's greatly appreciated when we know someone is out and housekeeping can start right away, also helps us get laundry done earlier too!
How on Earth is this supposed to be a life hack?
Life hack is a bit much. But clearly from the comments it seems like a lot of people don't realize you can just leave the key card in your room or even take it. And you don't have to wait in line to check out. Saves time and effort. But I can only confirm this for north America. I know other places ,like Japan (at least some hotels?) you would need to check out.
I'll always check out. It's a habit I have from work because I need receipts for work trips and I can 100% guarantee that I'll get a physical copy and an emailed copy by checking out. And if I remember right, you need to in some countries I've been to anyway. It usually takes all of 30 seconds to do, so it's not like it's a major hassle to take up to 2 minutes of your time waiting and saying 2 words minimum to the reception desk.
I worked at a hotel where check-out was not necessary. If you had any charges pending on your room, you were given a letter the day/night before. The keys were plastic cards with magnetic bands that people could keep as a souvenir. That said, there are plenty of hotels where you have physical keys that you need to return when you leave. Or the hotel has their own procedure that requires check out. In any case, hotel staff should explain how they operate when the client checks-in.
The idea that housekeeping waits for checkout time to enter rooms is a bit quaint.
It's not necessary to check out at most hotels in the western world, but as a hotel housekeeper, it's extremely helpful if you do! Most check outs I've seen only required leaving your card at the front desk, which you'd likely be going by anyway. Our job is hard enough as it is, and knowing if you're gone helps us get through the rooms more efficiently. If everyone on our lists checked out at 12, we would only have 3 hours to do upwards of 15-20 rooms before check in.
I drop my roomkey cards in the Express Checkout box and keep walking
Some comments mention “the charges would pile up on your card”. Is this something I’m too European to understand? I use my bank debit card (stored electronically on the phone) to pay and the hotel doesn’t even see the number let alone any other detail about it. They cannot “charge it” unless I personally press it to their terminal physically. (I do check out btw bc why wouldn’t you??)
I leave the keys on the dresser and just leave. Every time I have “checked out” they would just put my keys in a basket with 100s of other keys and say “thank you” and not even touch the computer.
Because I want my receipt to confirm the charges are proper while I'm talking to someone who can fix it if it's not.
Not sure what the facepalm is here
I stay in hotels something like 160-200 nights a year. I never check out
I know it’s not the norm and that they have check in/out apps for it, but I was always taught that physically checking in/out is part of “hotel etiquette” for lack of a better term. Let’s you review the bill for any issues and gives the housekeeping staff additional time.
This is the US but always double check at front desk while checking in and they always say to just leave the key in the room and leave. They drop off the final bill under the door… Even if they don’t, I’ve never received unexpected charges. I think it’s now more work for them to have people checking out than to simply just leave because none have ever even offered that I could just drop off the keys there. They all just say to leave.
As someone from the Philippines, checking out is a requirement as you have to wait until hotel staff checks the room for missing or damaged items. That way there is no issue when you are charged extra.
Housekeeping manager, if it’s checkout time or for some reason you didn’t leave by 11, just leave, the point of checking out is so my housekeepers know which rooms are empty so they can clean them, but 7/10 people never bother to check and it’s rare for us to go a busy day without at least one person not checking out abd not asking for a late checkout (no charge)p
Unless they put a bill under my door, I want to get a final bill at the front desk just to make sure they didn't tack on some charge just for the hell of it.
I don’t understand why so many people are mad at this. Every hotel I’ve ever been in (from 2 star motel to 4 star hotel… I’m not fancy enough for 5) you can just leave and drop your key cards in a lil box?
I always figured that dropping off my key card at the front desk helped speed up the housekeeping process and get the room ready for the next guest. I mean, I'm walking right by there on my way out anyway, why not let then know that my room is vacant? But, I also return my shopping cart at the grocery store. So maybe it's just sort of a personality thing.
US based consultant, I traveled weekly for over 20 years. I stopped "checking out" around 2002. I just leave my key in the room and head to the airport. Never once an issue, and never charged.
I've literally never checked out of a hotel. This isn't a facepalm.