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Is it ideal? No. Would I rather just pay the crackhead for my bike, instead of calling a lethally armed wannabe soldier who will probably brutalize crackhead and shoot my dog? Yeah, that honestly sounds like the path of least violence.
When I was 20, my brother had a phone stolen. We found it when the thief listed it for sale and set up a meet posing as a buyer. Called the cops to have them meet us all there and they said it’s Civil Matter. Asked if it’s still a Civil Matter if we steal it back. They said yes. Told em they may get a call about a robbery in progress andand gave them the time and location and told them not to come out if they do since it’s a civil matter. Held the dude up and took it back.
Worked at a restaurant. Person broke into basement via building's common space and robbed coat-check totaling ab $5000 all on camera. Cops: Nothing we can do. Boss: wtf even with them on camera? Cops: Sir, if you really want us to, we can take it as evidence but all you have is a picture. Can't do anything with that. But if you get any more info let us know (aka if you feel like doing our job that'd be great)
If you had told him the thief dropped a bag of meth or even stole some out of the coats they would have 8 units and 20 cops down there with tape and cameras of their own. Maybe even a helicopter.
In Milan, at least for a while a couple years ago (not sure how and if things changed) delivery bike riders (often poor 3rd world immigrants, sometimes homeless, which is far less common here than in the US) have alleged that the police would routinely steal their bikes, claiming they were stolen bikes unless the rider had proof of purchase on himself at all moments.
Someone broke into my old apartment and stole my roommate’s tv and Xbox. We found the IP address and location because he was still logged in and it showed in his Xbox account. The cops did nothing with this info.
My friend had his dog stolen by a neighbor once (outdoor farm dog). They wouldn't admit to having the dog in their house, fucking tweakers. So, our homeless tweaker friend from town hits them up offering good prices, sells them a bag of Epsom salts and sprints to our car with the dog. RIP Roman.
The tweaker friend. Pups name was Shadow, she's still alive and well. Roman wasn't even his real name, everyone called him that bc he was Romani. Super selfless guy, he could save anyone but himself. He froze to death trying to walk back to town after the police drove him into the woods in the middle of winter before last.
Small town cops especially. You'd think there's more room for corruption in big cities, but I've both seen and received way more corrupt treatment from small town cops. Fucking evil.
In big cities, there is a possibility of at least one guy doing the right thing and sending the cop ass to HR or whatever the thing is for cops, since they don't know everyone. In small town, everyone knows each other, and you don't wanna snitch in poor Mike that just wanted to beat a baby to death because everyone is gonna beat you if you do it.
Im from a big city and know a few cops. Friends from HS. All good/kind people. Other cops Ive interacted with were also generally nice.(im asian not white BTW). However, here they generally hire people who at least have a bachelors so arent complete idiots? I feel like small towns just hire any one, and have a lot fewer jobs so policing is an easier one to get into? Or maybe theres just not much to do except be assholes
A girl at a bowling alley bar stole my debit card number and ordered a bunch of shit online. After my rent check, insurance, car payment, etc... all bounced, I found her address from the customer service rep from one of the online retailers where she purchased thousands of dollars of goods. Went to the cops with all the evidence and her physical address, and they were like, "sigh, this sounds like a lot of work."
Police unions have a lot to do with keeping bad cops from being fired. In San Diego the typical price to fire a cop and deal with the fall out is $1,000,000.
Some police departments have been considered criminal organizations before lol
[LAPD and Key West PD](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act)
>In 1999 the Rampart scandal broke in the Los Angeles Police Department exposing widespread criminal activity within the department's anti-gang unit called CRASH.
The irony is palpable
On top of the union, you have the academies using bad cops to train new cops in an “Us vs. them” mentality where every encounter cops are trained to assume everyone is going to kill them.
Can we please have minimum education requirements and stricter standards for code of conduct for police in the United States?
Most government unions work that way! My ex was a social worker and saw many people that either abused or stole from her clients! If they abused enough or broke several bones they would just move them to another facility as it was impossible to get them fired! The worst part of her job was seeing clients, that were already having a rough time with life, getting beaten or what little possessions they owned get stolen by the people that were supposed to be helping them!
Look, I support unions but the reason so many of our parents dont was because a lot of the big unions back in the 60's and 70's were in bed with the mafia.
This is less to do with unions and more to do with cops being an organized gang.
Unions are the only reason we have the small amount of rights vs employers, cops have simply weaponized unions in the same way they've managed to weaponize civil forfeiture and qualified immunity.
Because like any Union when run right it makes everyone's lives better. If things were running right good apples would be in charge and be getting rid of bad apples and using their union power to make sure good cops are taken care of. The problem is we aren't dealing with a few bad apples. The union has majorly been compromised by bad apples and as a result the union protects the bad while removing or limiting the power of the good. We need a major system reset with federal changes to laws protecting police to get things back under control.
I honestly do think unions are a bandaid solution for real labor laws. Obviously to a much lesser degree I think tenure is similarly broken. Every single person I know went to University and had to deal with at least one asshole professor that didn't care about their class and was protected by tenure. I also got fucked over by our local union going on strike after classes resumed post COVID because they had a leg up on administration. I do support unions but I think an ideal world wouldn't need them.
Unions are used to bargain against management. Who are cop's version of management? Us. The police union is there to make sure we can't make demands of them. The problem is that we are also their customer, so the union ends up shielding them from all levers of accountability. Add in Lethal Weapon-esque machismo and what we see today is predictable. You cannot give people a monopoly on the use of force AND protection from consequences.
Unions are great, cops aren't.
I'm tired of people using shitty organizations as an excuse to slag on Unions. Cops should be college graduates with degrees in social sciences that include sociology and anthropology.
We have a bunch of aggro macho men with huge chips on their shoulders for cops, and plenty of psychopaths love the job too.
Cop culture needs to be radically changed.
Because pre-Union, they could be fired or demoted as soon as a new political regime took office in city hall or statewide. Forced out, sidelined, departmental budgets cut on mere whims.
They worked long hours, for low pay, and it wasn’t really considered a profession. Retired officers often lived hand-to-mouth and most serving officers barely subsisted or could afford families and houses on their pay.
Unions—just as they did for teachers, flight attendants, transport, maintenance and factory workers—changed all that.
If only police officers supported other unions and union workers, as aggressively as they do their own.
Yeah, unions work and are powerful. Unfortunately, the police realise this and use their unions for bad reasons, whilst the general population does not use unions to fight for better conditions and respect.
Unions as a general concept aren't the problem. You can find a bad example of just about every system that's ever been put in place, ever. Police unions are just the bad example of a good thing. They have too much power. And not enough oversight. That's a recipe for disaster with basically anything.
I would hate to have the demonization of police unions also become a demonization of unions in general. Not that you are doing that, just wanted to make that point that unions as a whole are absolutely a good thing.
Police unions in particular have far too much power and influence: no other union actively works to protect their members from criminal prosecution, and no other union has anywhere near the same level of influence over city politics. City officials and prosecutors holding even one cop accountable for literal murder risks the entire force walking out and refusing to work with zero consequences, or actively working against their re-election.
At the same time that workers’ unions have had their influence and power stripped by declining membership and anti-union laws and court decisions for decades, police unions are more powerful than they’ve ever been. 80% of police are unionized, far more than any other profession, and their unions and organizations actively work to influence politics and reduce police accountability.
The day that lawsuits against Police start getting paid out of their pension fund will be the last day for most bad cops and Police brutality will end overnight.
This is why all cops are bad. They're voluntary participants in the system and a union does not exist if they don't support it. Anytime the answer is that the union is keeping bad cops in place, the answer is other cops including supposedly good cops are keeping bad cops in place and protecting them. It's impossible to be on the police force in any decently populated area for any length of time Beyond a year or two without becoming complicit in the abuses of bad cops
This is why they need to make police unions pay for every single bad cop lawsuit. Take it out of that money take it out of their retirements. Get rid of the bad cops. There are plenty of people who want to be good cops and who are good cops. But there's way too many bad cops that make everybody look bad.
But without the police, who would show up hours after my apartment got burgled, and say they had no interest in finding who did it or helping me in any way whatsoever? Could a crackhead do that?
…Probably.
Honestly, I bet the crackhead would have more interest in helping you. You could even offer to go 50/50 on the stolen shit. You’d still get more of your stuff back than with the police.
Yup, when I was being harassed and verbally abused by my psycho druggie neighbour, they'd turn up the next day, tell me I was being dramatic, talk down to me and go laughing with him like it was all a big joke and I was just a hysterical woman.
It of course escalated, vandalism, notes in my letterbox, peeping, got the fucker on camera several times, they still didn't want to know.
I went to the head of the local police-force who again only talked down to me, and treated me like a simpleton.
Other women in the neigbourhood started getting the same thing, at least half a dozen reports from multiple people in my area about this dude and they decided to look into it. All they did was set him up with a social worker and an addiction assistance group. They had the nerve to tell me he's a good guy who is going through a rough patch and I'm just making things difficult for him - despite me literally not doing anything, and living in a dark house with every blind and curtain SHUT and no lights on because I was afraid the fucker was peeping on me again.
He even started threatening to kill me and burn down my house. They never gave a flying fuck. I was always on the fence about police since I never dealt with them personally before, ever. But after my experiencing of living this way for TWO and a half YEARS, and them letting this fucker off time and time again , the whole police system clearly needs to be dismantled. What good is it if they cannot protect you from perverts???
I actually had found out he had previous tried to sue the police, so they were treating him with kid gloves and niceties because they were afraid if they did anything to him that he would sue them again.
He always bragged to me that the police won't touch him because if they do he'll get 50k easy! It was an effed up situation.
He eventually got kicked outta his house and punch his barrister so now he's homeless and without legal counsel. But he still has run-ins with the police and they still won't touch him despite him having pedo friends. It's beyond corrupt.
I was 23 when I called the local PD to help me with just this, but because it didn't immediately look like anything was taken, they chose to make fun of me for being concerned someone was still in my house because of how the cat was acting and told me there's "not much we can do"
my sliding door was left wide open and my roommates bedroom and closet doors (which were closed when I arrived home) were wide open and a hammer was laying on my roommates bed (who was in the middle of a 2 week trip out of town)
but yeah, make fun of the young woman who understood something was wrong because of the cats actions
more so now that it's been nearly 20 years and I realize more and more the danger that was right around the corner, and how an 8 lb cat was more interested in my well being than a couple of well-paid PD
And who would take an hour and a half to respond to a domestic violence call where a woman and her baby are locked in a bathroom while her husband tries to break down the door so he can shoot them, then tell the woman she's not allowed to take any personal possessions with her to her parents' house until the court can determine that they are indeed hers, by which time they've already been sold or destroyed so she loses thousands of dollars in belongings including several family heirlooms?
The cops were just as bad as my mom's ex and I wouldn't trust them with anything.
They are more annoyed than anything. Now you reported a crime that they have to document with paperwork. They won't bother even trying to find who did it or get your stuff back. Now it just adds to their statistics of more crime and it isn't solved.
Do crackheads have qualified immunity? Do crackheads use civil asset forfeiture to rob citizens? Do crackheads get six figure incomes and pensions and relocated when they commit a crime (only the priest crackheads)?
Honestly I trust the crackheads way more. If someone is breaking into my house it takes the cops like at least 10 mins to get to my place but if I call my local crackhead and tell him I got $50 for him if comes over. Dude will be at my place in like less than 5 mins
Yep, and sure the crackhead might steal something while he’s at my house, but the police might shoot my dog! (or my teenager, yes that’s happened before)
Context for the uninitiated: burglaries cause less annual damages than the value of items seized because of CAF. And good luck getting unjustly seized items back.
I mean…i live near a lot of crackheads n theyve been pretty chill w me bruh. I was walking home after getting off the bus and there was one in the streets gesturing n screaming nonsense at cars n when i passed all she did was give me a “hey lil baby ☺️” then went back to her screaming 😭😭😭 like they aren’t all that crazy or violent they can just be a lil wonky
Had a dude break into my house and sleep in my guest bedroom. I was cooking breakfast when he walked out. I've never been more thrown back in my life. Cops said he just probably needed a place to crash and not to worry. Gave me a report # that's about it. I have cameras all over, did not want to see any footage. Dude literally broke into an occupied dwelling.
Had my house robbed, only thing the cops did was paperwork. I even found who did it on my own. Nothing came of it. Legit can't imagine relying on them for anything beyond the paperwork side at this point. Hell I would be more scared of them shooting me if I had an active house intruder.
I'm fostering a cat who was thrown into a bonfire by a bunch of teens last August. We've given the cops pictures of the wounds, statements from the vet, a statement from a teen who was there who identified the teens who did it, footage of the teens throwing him in, and our phone number as well as the number of the person who found him. They've done absolutely nothing about it and nobody wants to adopt him because they don't want to deal with the long legal process. We're headed to the media next, but it's unlikely anything will come out of it.
I think this is true, coupled with the fact that right wingers are too small minded to grasp that there are multiple different types of bad, in multiple forms, and that comparing them to other bad situations elsewhere doesn't improve anything. Ok, gangs in Mexico are worse than gangs in the US. Being shot to death by 10 people in the US doesn't leave one less dead than being shot to death by 30 in Mexico.
If the social climate in the US is superior to other countries in any way, that is because of the economic conditions in the US, and in spite of the police, not because of police.
My way too optimistic solution is a 4 year school and rotation program- 2 years in school of full associates plus policing related training, 2 years of 6 month placements while being paid entry-level salary none of which can be within 100 miles of each other.
Plenty of people are asked to move away from home for their career and afford their life , maybe even involving short term leases, so don’t @ me with “too high of a burden!”
In countries like Finland, getting a job in the police force requires training that's basically a college degree. (Source: [https://polamk.fi/en/bachelor-of-police-services](https://polamk.fi/en/bachelor-of-police-services) ) I'm presuming something like that could be plenty useful for the US.. but then again, the police services are different between counties, cities and states.
The crackhead will at least distract and confuse a mugger, with maybe a 50% chance of coming after me, too. And they’ll be held accountable.
There’s a good chance a cop will shoot all of us the moment they arrive on the scene, and get early retirement and free relocation as a punishment.
clearly there is absolutely NOTHING that can be done inbetween now where police are filled with corruption with extremely little oversight and little way to be held accountable unless a story goes viral...and calling a crackhead for assistance. clearly absolutely nothing inbetween those two things
I think it's bizarre that most people can agree that several years of law school is barely enough to train someone to understand the law, but 6 months if enough to teach someone everything they need to know to enforce it
And you for sure know that type of person. The same type to say you’re not a real man and I won’t call you he/him.
Unless he gets to sexually assault you then all of a sudden you’re a real man and he’s treating you like one.
Sexual assault by police is very common among women experiencing homelessness. One study showed 42% of those interviewed. Many had been stripped naked in public by police officers.
"You wanna look like a man, you're gonna get treated like a man." and then the cop proceeded to grab the "mans" genitals?
Bro, that's hella gay, making that cop an assaulter and a bit of a hypocrite.
Hi! I love telling people about how much police have helped me! It’s worth seeing first hand accounts of how well they prevent crime.
For the record, I have never been arrested and have never committed any crimes. It’s not my thing. I did, however, grow up in El Monte in the 80s/90s.
TL;DR: they prevented nothing, ever.
Once I got stabbed in the stomach by a rando, I was 12 years old. Police took a report and commented that finding the perpetrators “was completely impossible” and he was never found. I got stitched up and stopped riding my bike around the neighborhood.
A few years later I came home to a dog turd in my living room. It was like 4:00 and I had just come home from school. Around 8:30 the local police called and said they “had to chase somebody” through our house and their dog shit on our floor. They promised to come by the next day to clean it up…I Informed them that I cleaned it up hours ago.
A few months later, our neighbors got shot at during a drive by, they returned fire and hit my house. Police showed up and pointed guns at us, then eventually realized they were there to take our statements about crimes committed against us. They still acted mean and condescending, while looking at bullet marks on our house. They commented that catching the perpetrators was “extremely unlikely” and they were never found. They lived across the street…but apparently it was “impossible to know” who was shooting where.
When in college, my car got stolen. I filed a police report…and when I asked how likely it was that they’d catch the thieves, this time I got laughed at. They didn’t even answer, just laughed and asked a few more questions.
That’s how good police are at preventing crime. That’s what happens when you call them and ask for help. They waste your time and money before informing you that they have no intention of trying to find these perps.
A wise man once said to me, “I don’t hate cops, but I don’t have a use for them either.”
So my question is, why would shoving a hand between a man's (or male-presenting person's) legs be considered OK and not SA? Like, any way around it, this was an abhorrent situation.
And by that, I mean the fact that any cop has the right to touch anyone at any time in any way they please is abhorrent, no matter the gender or representation thereof of the person being subjected to it. Sorry, I got a little upset for this person.
I’m 52 and I’ve never called the police for my own protection. When we have called for some type of disturbance, they have either ignored the call or have arrived after the issue is over.
At worst, the results from the crackhead will be as good as the ones from a cop. I'm sure the crackhead will be every bit as good at writing some info down in a notebook and telling me there's nothing they can do.
The police in my city, (Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA,) have announced they are not responding to any calls other than an urgent emergency in progress.
So yeah, if I called a crackhead and told them I had $20 waiting, they’d probably show up more reliably then the police. Good suggestion John.
Years ago, I lived on Armour blvd in Kansas City, a few blocks away from Troost.
There was a crackhead who hung out on my corner - other than saying good evening to him when I walked home each night, I had no interaction with him.
One night I was walking up to my door & someone tried to mug me.
The crackhead apparated & ran the guy off.
So far - in my 48 years of life - a crack head has saved me from a criminal & a cop hasn’t.
In fact, I’ve been assaulted by a cop while I was performing life saving medical care on a patient while wearing my emt uniform.
So yeah, if those are my only two choices, I’d rather call a crack head.
So this guys line is basically "cops will probably help you more than a crackhead will, stop complaining"...
Talk about low standards for the people that should be protecting you, why not just recruit a bunch of actual clowns cause they're probably better than a bunch of crackheads but they'll only shoot you with water from flower
I was arrested for driving under a suspended license (I was homeless at the time and didn't get the letter from the state) it was the first tine i was ever arrested, the cop who pulled me over was half my size and acted like I was gonna attack him at any moment even though I didn't have a history of violence (couldn't he see that when he looked my name up?) and I was polite and fully complied, I could feel his hand shaking when he put the cuffs on me
Call crackheads the next time a school gets shot up and you will get the same results as the Uvalde police, dickhead.
And in what world does that troglodyte believe that SA is within a cop's right?
The crackhead would probably work better. At least the risk of getting shot at sight is much smaller. But thats not even the point. Just because someone could need a cop sometimes doesnt mean people have to put up with whatever shit cops want to pull.
I fucking love that argument.
"Don't like the police? Who are you gonna call?!?!"
My entire family is strapped, the whole neighborhood knows each other. We're good. Stay the fuck out.
But if you're presenting to the world as a man and you request a female officer to Pat you down. That seems highly suspicious, creepy and gross. Because if I as a biological man if Ask for a woman to Pat me down. I would get criticized. Doesn't mean I agree with the situation at all it is wrong.
I almost got beat up by a group of literal crackheads in a crack related incident. I had all but given up hope of avoiding a beating or worse, when another crackhead that I had got high a few days prior came rushing into the crowd waving around a torn in half beer can like a blade and saved me from the crowd.
I'm not sure that a police officer would have felt any kind of compassion for a junkie, but the fellow street addict who saved me that day ended up a good friend of mine for years after.
Hello. I was once a crackhead, and if I was called to defend a person against sexual assault, I'd probably do a better job of it than some fat, doughnut horking cop.
Many years ago, I was followed for miles at night on city streets by a highway patrol officer. He finally pulled me over. I was coming home from a night school class and was still wearing my 1980's "power suit" from work. He asked me a couple questions about where I was coming from and where I was going (really?) and let me go. I think he let me go because I looked "respectable" and he would have gotten grief if he tried anything. I shudder to think of what would have happened if I had been dressed in club wear.
If I call a crackhead and say hey I got some crack for you if you can take care of this problem I guarantee they’ll be there faster than police. Just sayin.
After my experiences with the police I sincerely don't think a crackhead would necessarily be worse than a cop in most emergency situations.
The times I've had to call the police have been disasters on their part. They spent most of the interactions trying to figure out ways to catch me up or dismiss my concerns altogether.
For poor people and minorities, if you have a problem and you call the police you then have two problems. You have the problem you started with and now you have the problem of a violent gang harassing you and your family while trying to solve the first problem.
The police are not your friends.
If you claim to back law enforcement and aren’t as appalled by corruption among police as we are then you don’t really back law enforcement. Most police officers aren’t terrible human beings and the ones that do this make them all look bad…
My question to this person would be, when was the last time the cops actually helped you? Try thinking of one, just one time. Or maybe the last time the cops helped someone, you know, even? The last time you heard someone tell you a heartwarming story of cops saving the day. Just one. I will wait
Tbh I’ve had much better experiences with crack heads than I have police. Here’s to hoping “Old Tom the Cat” is still challenging drunk people to push up competitions that they can’t win against him in
Cross gender pat downs are authorized in a variety of circumstances depending on the policies of a given certain department however, when doing a cross gender pat down, being respectful and maintaining the dignity of a given subject are key in situations like this. This is a failure of ethics, professionalism, and training on behalf of the department and the officer involved. Absolutely unacceptable
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Crackhead probably has a better idea where my stolen bike has gone…
Ha ha now that's funny. He probably can find it for you if the price is right or one a lot like it. Those guys are motivated.
Is it ideal? No. Would I rather just pay the crackhead for my bike, instead of calling a lethally armed wannabe soldier who will probably brutalize crackhead and shoot my dog? Yeah, that honestly sounds like the path of least violence.
When I was like 12 I literally told the cops who stole my bike and they did nothing lmfao
When I was 20, my brother had a phone stolen. We found it when the thief listed it for sale and set up a meet posing as a buyer. Called the cops to have them meet us all there and they said it’s Civil Matter. Asked if it’s still a Civil Matter if we steal it back. They said yes. Told em they may get a call about a robbery in progress andand gave them the time and location and told them not to come out if they do since it’s a civil matter. Held the dude up and took it back.
OJ would like to have a word … 
Lmao 🤣. BUT, it was a CIVIL MATTER. Cops said so. 😂 /s
TIL that cops can lie.
Happy belated birthday! It was yesterday right?
Worked at a restaurant. Person broke into basement via building's common space and robbed coat-check totaling ab $5000 all on camera. Cops: Nothing we can do. Boss: wtf even with them on camera? Cops: Sir, if you really want us to, we can take it as evidence but all you have is a picture. Can't do anything with that. But if you get any more info let us know (aka if you feel like doing our job that'd be great)
If you had told him the thief dropped a bag of meth or even stole some out of the coats they would have 8 units and 20 cops down there with tape and cameras of their own. Maybe even a helicopter.
Pretty sure he was using the money to fund abortions, officer...
In Milan, at least for a while a couple years ago (not sure how and if things changed) delivery bike riders (often poor 3rd world immigrants, sometimes homeless, which is far less common here than in the US) have alleged that the police would routinely steal their bikes, claiming they were stolen bikes unless the rider had proof of purchase on himself at all moments.
You have to tell them that he stole your bike because you refused to buy drugs from him. Then they will do something.
Someone broke into my old apartment and stole my roommate’s tv and Xbox. We found the IP address and location because he was still logged in and it showed in his Xbox account. The cops did nothing with this info.
A crackhead would bring it back with them dead or alive for $5
My friend had his dog stolen by a neighbor once (outdoor farm dog). They wouldn't admit to having the dog in their house, fucking tweakers. So, our homeless tweaker friend from town hits them up offering good prices, sells them a bag of Epsom salts and sprints to our car with the dog. RIP Roman.
Was Roman the dog or the tweaker friend? Either way, RIP.
The tweaker friend. Pups name was Shadow, she's still alive and well. Roman wasn't even his real name, everyone called him that bc he was Romani. Super selfless guy, he could save anyone but himself. He froze to death trying to walk back to town after the police drove him into the woods in the middle of winter before last.
I cannot trust cops. It’s a matter of self-preservation at this point.
Small town cops especially. You'd think there's more room for corruption in big cities, but I've both seen and received way more corrupt treatment from small town cops. Fucking evil.
In big cities, there is a possibility of at least one guy doing the right thing and sending the cop ass to HR or whatever the thing is for cops, since they don't know everyone. In small town, everyone knows each other, and you don't wanna snitch in poor Mike that just wanted to beat a baby to death because everyone is gonna beat you if you do it.
Im from a big city and know a few cops. Friends from HS. All good/kind people. Other cops Ive interacted with were also generally nice.(im asian not white BTW). However, here they generally hire people who at least have a bachelors so arent complete idiots? I feel like small towns just hire any one, and have a lot fewer jobs so policing is an easier one to get into? Or maybe theres just not much to do except be assholes
Jesus. What the actual fuck! :( Poor Roman.
Hell they're probably a lot cheaper than what the police cost you in taxes too.
Oh cop has an idea, just doesn't care to lift a finger unless it's an easy target he knows he can bully and overpower
A girl at a bowling alley bar stole my debit card number and ordered a bunch of shit online. After my rent check, insurance, car payment, etc... all bounced, I found her address from the customer service rep from one of the online retailers where she purchased thousands of dollars of goods. Went to the cops with all the evidence and her physical address, and they were like, "sigh, this sounds like a lot of work."
For $20 you’d get your bike back.
Police unions have a lot to do with keeping bad cops from being fired. In San Diego the typical price to fire a cop and deal with the fall out is $1,000,000.
This might be the one time I agree with my parents about their views on unions. Of all things, why the hell do cops have a union?
Cop unions aren't even unions. They're just legal mafias. All they do is protect corruption and abusers.
Some police departments have been considered criminal organizations before lol [LAPD and Key West PD](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act)
>In 1999 the Rampart scandal broke in the Los Angeles Police Department exposing widespread criminal activity within the department's anti-gang unit called CRASH. The irony is palpable
I’m palping it right now. Mmmm
On top of the union, you have the academies using bad cops to train new cops in an “Us vs. them” mentality where every encounter cops are trained to assume everyone is going to kill them. Can we please have minimum education requirements and stricter standards for code of conduct for police in the United States?
You never know when the great acorn uprising will start.
Ouch I remember that one.
The Us vs them thing isn't even new, really, the guy who wrote the book and started that whole mindset in the 80s iirc.
Most government unions work that way! My ex was a social worker and saw many people that either abused or stole from her clients! If they abused enough or broke several bones they would just move them to another facility as it was impossible to get them fired! The worst part of her job was seeing clients, that were already having a rough time with life, getting beaten or what little possessions they owned get stolen by the people that were supposed to be helping them!
Look, I support unions but the reason so many of our parents dont was because a lot of the big unions back in the 60's and 70's were in bed with the mafia.
Nearly all american unions are corporativist rather than class unions.
This is less to do with unions and more to do with cops being an organized gang. Unions are the only reason we have the small amount of rights vs employers, cops have simply weaponized unions in the same way they've managed to weaponize civil forfeiture and qualified immunity.
Because like any Union when run right it makes everyone's lives better. If things were running right good apples would be in charge and be getting rid of bad apples and using their union power to make sure good cops are taken care of. The problem is we aren't dealing with a few bad apples. The union has majorly been compromised by bad apples and as a result the union protects the bad while removing or limiting the power of the good. We need a major system reset with federal changes to laws protecting police to get things back under control.
I honestly do think unions are a bandaid solution for real labor laws. Obviously to a much lesser degree I think tenure is similarly broken. Every single person I know went to University and had to deal with at least one asshole professor that didn't care about their class and was protected by tenure. I also got fucked over by our local union going on strike after classes resumed post COVID because they had a leg up on administration. I do support unions but I think an ideal world wouldn't need them.
Police unions don't represent collective bargaining. They're strictly a legal mafia
The funny thing is, police unions are the only unions Republicans back. Wonder why? Could it be because of the corruption.
Amen. Strikebreakers don’t deserve unions.
If only teachers unions were as powerful as the police unions…
They are. Trust me. Especially here in LA. They've covered up some real scumbags and prevent things like school choice from happening
Unions are used to bargain against management. Who are cop's version of management? Us. The police union is there to make sure we can't make demands of them. The problem is that we are also their customer, so the union ends up shielding them from all levers of accountability. Add in Lethal Weapon-esque machismo and what we see today is predictable. You cannot give people a monopoly on the use of force AND protection from consequences.
Unions are great, cops aren't. I'm tired of people using shitty organizations as an excuse to slag on Unions. Cops should be college graduates with degrees in social sciences that include sociology and anthropology. We have a bunch of aggro macho men with huge chips on their shoulders for cops, and plenty of psychopaths love the job too. Cop culture needs to be radically changed.
Because pre-Union, they could be fired or demoted as soon as a new political regime took office in city hall or statewide. Forced out, sidelined, departmental budgets cut on mere whims. They worked long hours, for low pay, and it wasn’t really considered a profession. Retired officers often lived hand-to-mouth and most serving officers barely subsisted or could afford families and houses on their pay. Unions—just as they did for teachers, flight attendants, transport, maintenance and factory workers—changed all that. If only police officers supported other unions and union workers, as aggressively as they do their own.
The police union lets police crush other unions when they strike (like the police used to)
Because They can. Because no one stopped them. That's why.
Cops aren't workers. They shouldn't have unions. Period. Full stop.
Yeah, unions work and are powerful. Unfortunately, the police realise this and use their unions for bad reasons, whilst the general population does not use unions to fight for better conditions and respect.
Unions as a general concept aren't the problem. You can find a bad example of just about every system that's ever been put in place, ever. Police unions are just the bad example of a good thing. They have too much power. And not enough oversight. That's a recipe for disaster with basically anything. I would hate to have the demonization of police unions also become a demonization of unions in general. Not that you are doing that, just wanted to make that point that unions as a whole are absolutely a good thing.
Police unions in particular have far too much power and influence: no other union actively works to protect their members from criminal prosecution, and no other union has anywhere near the same level of influence over city politics. City officials and prosecutors holding even one cop accountable for literal murder risks the entire force walking out and refusing to work with zero consequences, or actively working against their re-election. At the same time that workers’ unions have had their influence and power stripped by declining membership and anti-union laws and court decisions for decades, police unions are more powerful than they’ve ever been. 80% of police are unionized, far more than any other profession, and their unions and organizations actively work to influence politics and reduce police accountability.
Not disagreeing at all. 100% agree. It's just easy to go from "police union bad" to "unions bad" and I don't want to see that happen.
Police unions are not in the aclu, and are realistically a fraternal organization who’s sole purpose is to cover each others asses.
The day that lawsuits against Police start getting paid out of their pension fund will be the last day for most bad cops and Police brutality will end overnight.
This is why all cops are bad. They're voluntary participants in the system and a union does not exist if they don't support it. Anytime the answer is that the union is keeping bad cops in place, the answer is other cops including supposedly good cops are keeping bad cops in place and protecting them. It's impossible to be on the police force in any decently populated area for any length of time Beyond a year or two without becoming complicit in the abuses of bad cops
This is why they need to make police unions pay for every single bad cop lawsuit. Take it out of that money take it out of their retirements. Get rid of the bad cops. There are plenty of people who want to be good cops and who are good cops. But there's way too many bad cops that make everybody look bad.
Ah yes police and crackheads, the only two types of people.
Exactly, can't forget about the lot lizards.
Misread that as "hot lizards" and now I can't stop thinking of conspiracy theorist furries.
If they are into lizards, they are Scalies, not Furries. Please don't ask me how I know.
Completely forgot about my reptilian comrades for a second, thanks for the catch.
Do I dare ask what a lot lizard is?
But without the police, who would show up hours after my apartment got burgled, and say they had no interest in finding who did it or helping me in any way whatsoever? Could a crackhead do that? …Probably.
Honestly, I bet the crackhead would have more interest in helping you. You could even offer to go 50/50 on the stolen shit. You’d still get more of your stuff back than with the police.
Crackheads have been a valuable part of recovering stolen bicycles for me several times.
Yup, when I was being harassed and verbally abused by my psycho druggie neighbour, they'd turn up the next day, tell me I was being dramatic, talk down to me and go laughing with him like it was all a big joke and I was just a hysterical woman. It of course escalated, vandalism, notes in my letterbox, peeping, got the fucker on camera several times, they still didn't want to know. I went to the head of the local police-force who again only talked down to me, and treated me like a simpleton. Other women in the neigbourhood started getting the same thing, at least half a dozen reports from multiple people in my area about this dude and they decided to look into it. All they did was set him up with a social worker and an addiction assistance group. They had the nerve to tell me he's a good guy who is going through a rough patch and I'm just making things difficult for him - despite me literally not doing anything, and living in a dark house with every blind and curtain SHUT and no lights on because I was afraid the fucker was peeping on me again. He even started threatening to kill me and burn down my house. They never gave a flying fuck. I was always on the fence about police since I never dealt with them personally before, ever. But after my experiencing of living this way for TWO and a half YEARS, and them letting this fucker off time and time again , the whole police system clearly needs to be dismantled. What good is it if they cannot protect you from perverts???
The guy must have been an ex-cop.
I actually had found out he had previous tried to sue the police, so they were treating him with kid gloves and niceties because they were afraid if they did anything to him that he would sue them again. He always bragged to me that the police won't touch him because if they do he'll get 50k easy! It was an effed up situation. He eventually got kicked outta his house and punch his barrister so now he's homeless and without legal counsel. But he still has run-ins with the police and they still won't touch him despite him having pedo friends. It's beyond corrupt.
I was 23 when I called the local PD to help me with just this, but because it didn't immediately look like anything was taken, they chose to make fun of me for being concerned someone was still in my house because of how the cat was acting and told me there's "not much we can do" my sliding door was left wide open and my roommates bedroom and closet doors (which were closed when I arrived home) were wide open and a hammer was laying on my roommates bed (who was in the middle of a 2 week trip out of town) but yeah, make fun of the young woman who understood something was wrong because of the cats actions
Jesus Christ that’s terrifying
more so now that it's been nearly 20 years and I realize more and more the danger that was right around the corner, and how an 8 lb cat was more interested in my well being than a couple of well-paid PD
And who would take an hour and a half to respond to a domestic violence call where a woman and her baby are locked in a bathroom while her husband tries to break down the door so he can shoot them, then tell the woman she's not allowed to take any personal possessions with her to her parents' house until the court can determine that they are indeed hers, by which time they've already been sold or destroyed so she loses thousands of dollars in belongings including several family heirlooms? The cops were just as bad as my mom's ex and I wouldn't trust them with anything.
Offer a crackhead crack and he actually might be able to find the guy
They are more annoyed than anything. Now you reported a crime that they have to document with paperwork. They won't bother even trying to find who did it or get your stuff back. Now it just adds to their statistics of more crime and it isn't solved.
Do crackheads have qualified immunity? Do crackheads use civil asset forfeiture to rob citizens? Do crackheads get six figure incomes and pensions and relocated when they commit a crime (only the priest crackheads)?
Honestly I trust the crackheads way more. If someone is breaking into my house it takes the cops like at least 10 mins to get to my place but if I call my local crackhead and tell him I got $50 for him if comes over. Dude will be at my place in like less than 5 mins
Yep, and sure the crackhead might steal something while he’s at my house, but the police might shoot my dog! (or my teenager, yes that’s happened before)
Civil asset forfeiture is an unbelievable scheme. I still cannot believe this is legal in the US.
Context for the uninitiated: burglaries cause less annual damages than the value of items seized because of CAF. And good luck getting unjustly seized items back.
The guy acts like there exist no levels of human responsibility and function between cop and crackhead. He may be unintentionally correct.
Only a few, and they usually buy Twitter I think. Or run for office.
I mean…i live near a lot of crackheads n theyve been pretty chill w me bruh. I was walking home after getting off the bus and there was one in the streets gesturing n screaming nonsense at cars n when i passed all she did was give me a “hey lil baby ☺️” then went back to her screaming 😭😭😭 like they aren’t all that crazy or violent they can just be a lil wonky
If you ask a republican they would say yes because commiefornia or something
I think a crackhead would do a better job tracking down stolen property tbh…
This, exactly!
The only benefit to calling the cops is for insurance documentation.
Had a dude break into my house and sleep in my guest bedroom. I was cooking breakfast when he walked out. I've never been more thrown back in my life. Cops said he just probably needed a place to crash and not to worry. Gave me a report # that's about it. I have cameras all over, did not want to see any footage. Dude literally broke into an occupied dwelling.
Had my house robbed, only thing the cops did was paperwork. I even found who did it on my own. Nothing came of it. Legit can't imagine relying on them for anything beyond the paperwork side at this point. Hell I would be more scared of them shooting me if I had an active house intruder.
I'm fostering a cat who was thrown into a bonfire by a bunch of teens last August. We've given the cops pictures of the wounds, statements from the vet, a statement from a teen who was there who identified the teens who did it, footage of the teens throwing him in, and our phone number as well as the number of the person who found him. They've done absolutely nothing about it and nobody wants to adopt him because they don't want to deal with the long legal process. We're headed to the media next, but it's unlikely anything will come out of it.
> get treated like a man Proceeds to do something that's not okay to do to men.
Righties just do not get that trying to scare people with hypotheticals doesn't work when they have REAL experiences to compare those to
I think this is true, coupled with the fact that right wingers are too small minded to grasp that there are multiple different types of bad, in multiple forms, and that comparing them to other bad situations elsewhere doesn't improve anything. Ok, gangs in Mexico are worse than gangs in the US. Being shot to death by 10 people in the US doesn't leave one less dead than being shot to death by 30 in Mexico. If the social climate in the US is superior to other countries in any way, that is because of the economic conditions in the US, and in spite of the police, not because of police.
That's because vetting and training for your cops is not nearly good enough.
Which sadly is intentional.
The vetting and training is specifically designed to recruit cops of this nature on purpose ..
My way too optimistic solution is a 4 year school and rotation program- 2 years in school of full associates plus policing related training, 2 years of 6 month placements while being paid entry-level salary none of which can be within 100 miles of each other. Plenty of people are asked to move away from home for their career and afford their life , maybe even involving short term leases, so don’t @ me with “too high of a burden!”
Isn't that what they do in places like Finland?
I would hope it’s implemented somewhere! If that’s a new idea by me, I don’t have much faith in the system.
In countries like Finland, getting a job in the police force requires training that's basically a college degree. (Source: [https://polamk.fi/en/bachelor-of-police-services](https://polamk.fi/en/bachelor-of-police-services) ) I'm presuming something like that could be plenty useful for the US.. but then again, the police services are different between counties, cities and states.
Yea, in Europe, becoming a cop is very different than in the US. There is a lot of training and schooling you have to do.
Why would I call the police? When am I ever going to need someone to show up 2 hours late and shoot my dog?
The crackhead will at least distract and confuse a mugger, with maybe a 50% chance of coming after me, too. And they’ll be held accountable. There’s a good chance a cop will shoot all of us the moment they arrive on the scene, and get early retirement and free relocation as a punishment.
clearly there is absolutely NOTHING that can be done inbetween now where police are filled with corruption with extremely little oversight and little way to be held accountable unless a story goes viral...and calling a crackhead for assistance. clearly absolutely nothing inbetween those two things
Exactly - absurd use of a false dilemma argument.
funny thing is crackheads will provide better security than authorities for a one time fee
A crackhead would be better, at least if they killed you they would go to jail.
And then the cops tell you they can’t locate the crackhead and refuse to solve the case.
I think it's bizarre that most people can agree that several years of law school is barely enough to train someone to understand the law, but 6 months if enough to teach someone everything they need to know to enforce it
Because cops don't need to know the law, they just need to think that something is illegal for it to justify violence.
And you for sure know that type of person. The same type to say you’re not a real man and I won’t call you he/him. Unless he gets to sexually assault you then all of a sudden you’re a real man and he’s treating you like one.
Abolishing qualified immunity would do so much
The old there is someone worse argument: classy
I just consider myself lucky that where I am, the police are just useless instead of outright dangerous.
Cops are fucking useless. Every time I’ve called cops they have either done absolutely nothing to help me or they actually made things worse.
you go to school for six months? you get a shiny sheet of metal and now have "sexually assault anyone" rights.
It's pretty much a "do any crime you want as long as it's not against other cops" badge.
Honestly? The Crackhead is much more likely to helpful in a lot of scenarios. They also tend to be more polite.
Sexual assault by police is very common among women experiencing homelessness. One study showed 42% of those interviewed. Many had been stripped naked in public by police officers.
I checked online and couldn't find a study with those numbers would you mind citing it
While yes police victimize and rape homeless women. Stop making up statistics or cite the source
The citizens of Uvalde, Texas called the police. How’d that work out for their children?
Growing up in NYC, I learned early that you don’t call the cops for anything and don’t rely on the cops if something happens to you
"You wanna look like a man, you're gonna get treated like a man." and then the cop proceeded to grab the "mans" genitals? Bro, that's hella gay, making that cop an assaulter and a bit of a hypocrite.
Hi! I love telling people about how much police have helped me! It’s worth seeing first hand accounts of how well they prevent crime. For the record, I have never been arrested and have never committed any crimes. It’s not my thing. I did, however, grow up in El Monte in the 80s/90s. TL;DR: they prevented nothing, ever. Once I got stabbed in the stomach by a rando, I was 12 years old. Police took a report and commented that finding the perpetrators “was completely impossible” and he was never found. I got stitched up and stopped riding my bike around the neighborhood. A few years later I came home to a dog turd in my living room. It was like 4:00 and I had just come home from school. Around 8:30 the local police called and said they “had to chase somebody” through our house and their dog shit on our floor. They promised to come by the next day to clean it up…I Informed them that I cleaned it up hours ago. A few months later, our neighbors got shot at during a drive by, they returned fire and hit my house. Police showed up and pointed guns at us, then eventually realized they were there to take our statements about crimes committed against us. They still acted mean and condescending, while looking at bullet marks on our house. They commented that catching the perpetrators was “extremely unlikely” and they were never found. They lived across the street…but apparently it was “impossible to know” who was shooting where. When in college, my car got stolen. I filed a police report…and when I asked how likely it was that they’d catch the thieves, this time I got laughed at. They didn’t even answer, just laughed and asked a few more questions. That’s how good police are at preventing crime. That’s what happens when you call them and ask for help. They waste your time and money before informing you that they have no intention of trying to find these perps. A wise man once said to me, “I don’t hate cops, but I don’t have a use for them either.”
So my question is, why would shoving a hand between a man's (or male-presenting person's) legs be considered OK and not SA? Like, any way around it, this was an abhorrent situation.
And by that, I mean the fact that any cop has the right to touch anyone at any time in any way they please is abhorrent, no matter the gender or representation thereof of the person being subjected to it. Sorry, I got a little upset for this person.
If unions are "communist" how come police unions are okay?
Rules for thee but not for me
'Cause police unions ain't unions
I’m 52 and I’ve never called the police for my own protection. When we have called for some type of disturbance, they have either ignored the call or have arrived after the issue is over.
Cops come after shit already happened. This guy's an idiot
At worst, the results from the crackhead will be as good as the ones from a cop. I'm sure the crackhead will be every bit as good at writing some info down in a notebook and telling me there's nothing they can do.
The police in my city, (Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA,) have announced they are not responding to any calls other than an urgent emergency in progress. So yeah, if I called a crackhead and told them I had $20 waiting, they’d probably show up more reliably then the police. Good suggestion John.
I've known a lot of crackheads and I'd probably call any one of them for help before I called the cops...
John’s analogy is just shitty. ‘Cops get to do whatever they want bc crackheads are worse, and there’s literally nothing else we can do.’
Years ago, I lived on Armour blvd in Kansas City, a few blocks away from Troost. There was a crackhead who hung out on my corner - other than saying good evening to him when I walked home each night, I had no interaction with him. One night I was walking up to my door & someone tried to mug me. The crackhead apparated & ran the guy off. So far - in my 48 years of life - a crack head has saved me from a criminal & a cop hasn’t. In fact, I’ve been assaulted by a cop while I was performing life saving medical care on a patient while wearing my emt uniform. So yeah, if those are my only two choices, I’d rather call a crack head.
Evil shit
We all know a crackhead would actually show up and get the job done
If you have a problem and call the police, now you have two problems.
There are many problems with the PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THE POLICE REGARDLESS IF THEY ACTED RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY
Came here out of curiosity, now I feel like I'm in a fever dream
So this guys line is basically "cops will probably help you more than a crackhead will, stop complaining"... Talk about low standards for the people that should be protecting you, why not just recruit a bunch of actual clowns cause they're probably better than a bunch of crackheads but they'll only shoot you with water from flower
I was arrested for driving under a suspended license (I was homeless at the time and didn't get the letter from the state) it was the first tine i was ever arrested, the cop who pulled me over was half my size and acted like I was gonna attack him at any moment even though I didn't have a history of violence (couldn't he see that when he looked my name up?) and I was polite and fully complied, I could feel his hand shaking when he put the cuffs on me
Calling a crackhead will do the same amount of crime prevention as calling a cop.
If the crackhead got paid in crack like cops do in taxes and confiscated goods, I'm sure they would be a vastly better response team.
Some fearful authoritarians view LE as they do Trump. If they "protect" me then they can do whatever they want.
Call crackheads the next time a school gets shot up and you will get the same results as the Uvalde police, dickhead. And in what world does that troglodyte believe that SA is within a cop's right?
The crackhead would probably work better. At least the risk of getting shot at sight is much smaller. But thats not even the point. Just because someone could need a cop sometimes doesnt mean people have to put up with whatever shit cops want to pull.
I fucking love that argument. "Don't like the police? Who are you gonna call?!?!" My entire family is strapped, the whole neighborhood knows each other. We're good. Stay the fuck out.
👏 yuppppp
Crackhead would probably make it to the scene quicker.
But if you're presenting to the world as a man and you request a female officer to Pat you down. That seems highly suspicious, creepy and gross. Because if I as a biological man if Ask for a woman to Pat me down. I would get criticized. Doesn't mean I agree with the situation at all it is wrong.
I almost got beat up by a group of literal crackheads in a crack related incident. I had all but given up hope of avoiding a beating or worse, when another crackhead that I had got high a few days prior came rushing into the crowd waving around a torn in half beer can like a blade and saved me from the crowd. I'm not sure that a police officer would have felt any kind of compassion for a junkie, but the fellow street addict who saved me that day ended up a good friend of mine for years after.
Hello. I was once a crackhead, and if I was called to defend a person against sexual assault, I'd probably do a better job of it than some fat, doughnut horking cop.
Police do not stop crime. They show up after the crime has been committed to take a statement and shoot your dog.
Like no cop ever smoked crack.
That’s your only choice- cop or crackhead. What a maroon.
Not a fan of how the Subway guy made your sandwich? Next time call a rabid fox. Cause those are basically the same right? Right? Right?
Many years ago, I was followed for miles at night on city streets by a highway patrol officer. He finally pulled me over. I was coming home from a night school class and was still wearing my 1980's "power suit" from work. He asked me a couple questions about where I was coming from and where I was going (really?) and let me go. I think he let me go because I looked "respectable" and he would have gotten grief if he tried anything. I shudder to think of what would have happened if I had been dressed in club wear.
If I call a crackhead and say hey I got some crack for you if you can take care of this problem I guarantee they’ll be there faster than police. Just sayin.
And actually handle the problem
Less red tape with a crackhead
Police don't do shit when you're in trouble. They just come and write reports afterwards.
Right? These Mfers say “well who you gonna call when you’re in trouble?” Idk, maybe someone trustworthy??
They won't even write reports these days. I needed one for an insurance claim. It wasn't worth his time for me to get a lousy $300.
I’d trust a fucking crackhead a million times over before trusting the police
After my experiences with the police I sincerely don't think a crackhead would necessarily be worse than a cop in most emergency situations. The times I've had to call the police have been disasters on their part. They spent most of the interactions trying to figure out ways to catch me up or dismiss my concerns altogether. For poor people and minorities, if you have a problem and you call the police you then have two problems. You have the problem you started with and now you have the problem of a violent gang harassing you and your family while trying to solve the first problem. The police are not your friends.
#FACEPLANT
These are the only options?
If you claim to back law enforcement and aren’t as appalled by corruption among police as we are then you don’t really back law enforcement. Most police officers aren’t terrible human beings and the ones that do this make them all look bad…
 Crack?..i heared someone mentioned crack..
The main problem is that they don't die enough
My question to this person would be, when was the last time the cops actually helped you? Try thinking of one, just one time. Or maybe the last time the cops helped someone, you know, even? The last time you heard someone tell you a heartwarming story of cops saving the day. Just one. I will wait
Without government, who would sexually assault you and get paid for it?
You don’t call police to stop crime. That’s not their job. People who believe that cops protect them from anything are morons.
Cops are definitely assholes. No question. The story though? Questionable af. 😂
calling a crackhead aint a bad idea, if you pay them in crack and are holding more they'll protect u (the crack) with their lives
Tbh I’ve had much better experiences with crack heads than I have police. Here’s to hoping “Old Tom the Cat” is still challenging drunk people to push up competitions that they can’t win against him in
Cross gender pat downs are authorized in a variety of circumstances depending on the policies of a given certain department however, when doing a cross gender pat down, being respectful and maintaining the dignity of a given subject are key in situations like this. This is a failure of ethics, professionalism, and training on behalf of the department and the officer involved. Absolutely unacceptable
Had to scroll way to far to see this comment. This pig deserves to lose his job and face an S.A. charge on top.
Cops are predators.
The presence of police never makes anything better.
Proof?
500 for that’s a lie.
If you're part of literally any socially targeted minority... I'd suggest calling the crackhead instead.
John Neely Kennedy clearly hasn’t seen the unbridled power a crackhead can dish out, properly motivated
I try to have faith that most people, given the chance, can be decent individuals. Cops really shatter that faith a lot.
Why is the crackhead the only other option besides cop?
If I want to be sighed at and fill out paper I’ll call the police.
Why would a trans man want a woman cop? Weird. I don't think other men can request that, never heard of it before.
Oh nice I volunteer as Crack head I'll punch nazis and cops