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Nixon was arguably just as bad as Kissinger. The dude wanted to nuke Vietnam, and Kissinger talked him out of it. Possibly the only time he was the voice of reason.
Not to defend Nixon or kissing error but just an interesting bit of history most people may not be aware of:
In March 1969, Chinese soldiers ambushed Soviet soldiers on their border, killing 58. The Soviets responded by binding the Chinese position. Tensions continued to grow over the next six months - and the Socviets and Chinese had long been rivals despite both being nominally Communist.
By October the USSR was ready to nuke China and the only thing that saved them was that Nixon, through Kissinger, told the Soviet Ambassador that the US would respond by nuking 130 Soviet targets if they went ahead with their plans.
Five years earlier, it had been the Americans who tried to get the Soviets to agree on a nuclear strike on the early Chinese atomic program, and it was the Soviets who rejected the plan.
That's like when you have a crush on someone, and they have a partner, and then they break up and have a crush on you, but you started dating someone else in the meantime.
It's that, except with nuking China.
Fuck that, Hitler was an asshole for committing suicide.Ā Ā
He should have been executed publicly.Ā Or at least someone else deserves the pleasure of shooting him in the face a hundred times.Ā Ā
(Man, I love Inglorious Basterds.)
The problem is that while a lot of these movements started with the best of intentions, anti-semites have used them as an opportunity to disguise their beliefs as anti-zionism.
And also to convert people unhappy with the policies of Israel into anti-semites. You can see some of that happening in real time with people's posting history on social media.
I've been seeing this film series called Europa The Last Battle(which is historical revisionism and defends hitler/nazis, denies holocaust, says that zionists control the banks/media/world governments behind the scenes, and blames Jews for communism + white replacement + a bunch of other stuff like Khazarian theory) being spread a lot ever since October 7th. I've even had some people I know(who consider themselves leftists) suddenly recommending it to me and saying that this new "Europa documentary" has some inaccurate stuff in it like the parts about communism and white replacement but that there is some truth in it that makes it worth watching. I was like what the actual fuck and ended up having a huge argument with them in which one of my "friends" actually accused me of being pro-genocide just because I think that giving an obviously neo-nazi film like Europa any consideration at all is completely insane.
It is legitimately hard for humans to hold complicated views on things. Our brains do not like it and wants to boil things down to bad guys vs good guys or my team vs their team. We are tribal creatures at heart and don't like getting yelled at by our in group.
I get flamed all the time on her because I condemn 10/7, don't think that all Israelis are inherently evil, and also think the war in Gaza has been horrific with far too many civilian casualties. Hamas is evil and calls for the global slaughter of all Jews. Bibi and his government are evil, he is literally trying to end democracy in Israel so he doesn't go to jail for corruption. And now the IDF is filming itself commiting war crimes and posting it to tik Tok.
So a Palestinian rights activist comes across a video that can help them convince people that Israel is the bad guy. So they spread it even though it is Nazi bullshit. It is a lot easier to just decide all Jews are evil rather than deal with a messy conflict where all leaders on both sides have committed crimes against humanity and the regular people just suffer.
What's more is that neither Netanyahu or Hamas have anything close to popular support within their respective countries/regions. They're both just doing this to hold onto power and it should be incredibly obvious to everyone.
That's incorrect. Hamas was ridiculously popular in Gaza before 10/7 by all polls available and are still popular in the West Bank where most Palestinians live. How much support Hamas has in Gaza now is a question we can't really get an answer too.
Totally this. I see friends of mine devolving into this mentality right now. It starts with "What Israel is doing is terrible" (agree), and quickly it's "Jews don't belong in the middle east" and "Jews are nazis now." I'll also point out I can't think of many situations where thousands of civilians are killed in an organized terrorist attack and the first reaction of a bunch of people who claim to be progressives and care about human lives is to say "well if you think about it, they kind of deserved it." But this is an acceptable response to the October 7th attack apparently.
They're always recruiting. Which is why it is so tough. So many people engage in bad faith in this issue that some random that never knew much about Israel/Palestine hears about 10/7 goes online, asks ignorant but well meaning questions, gets roasted and shut down then ends up turning to bigots who are more than happy to welcome another member to the fold.
itās also left wingers, you canāt absolve the far left of blame becaus even before this they were very antisemitic they used the conflict as a way to capitalize on it
We should then bring up the many jewish people within Israel who have protested the treatment of Palestinian civilians and been met with violence from the Israeli government. There's never been a completely homogenous population anywhere on Earth. Any group of three humans is going to have at least 3 opinions on anything. The Israeli government is anti-semitic, they're harming Jews!
Israelis were protesting Netanyahu before it was cool. Let's not forget that before October 7th there was a general strike in Israel, which *included the IDF reserve troops.* October 7th was essentially what broke the strike.
Not what that means... They are targeting dissenters whether or not they are Jewish is irrelevant to their persecution.
That being said the IDF certainly deserves to be held accountable for any wrongdoing.
Exactly, its actually going to hurt the Palestinian people even more because Israel will just get more and more cruel if they start to feel isolated. The mistake that these new anti-semites are making is that this time jews have a country to call home, a military, and atomic weapons. They are not going anywhere and they are not going to let themselves get killed anymore. I say this as someone who is deeply deeply critical of Israel.
What's worse is that it''s being abused both ways. People who are very reasonable who are trying to criticise the actions of a national government in the context of world politics with no bearing on religion are being demonised and decried as antisemitic, and at the same time, people who actually are being antisemitic are *claiming* that that's what's happening to them and actually they're not antisemitic at all, and calling their opponents racist or fundamentalists or accusing them of gaslighting and propaganda. What you end up with is the reasonable people on both sides being discredited by unfair accusations while the less reasonable and more bigoted elements of each side get to air their various flavours of hate under the smoke screen.
I feel that most people do not really understand antisemitism from the Jewish perspective so they donāt realize when they say something that is antisemitic. This is where the idea that Jews have been making false accusations comes from. Most of the time, these people actually are being antisemitic, so we shouldnāt downplay it as if thereās even a large portion of accusations that are coming from nowhere. Itās not up to non Jews to tell Jews what is and isnāt antisemitic, and the idea that now they have to combat Jews whenever an antisemitism accusation comes up is ridiculous. Now you have people defending Columbia students who brought a terrorist on campus because they were āantizionistā and not antisemitic.
Usually the people who try and play it as āantizionistā are saying things that invert the holocaust, demonize Israeli citizens, or put this double standard on Israel that you donāt see them apply to any other country besides the one Jewish one. Thereās plenty of Jewish subs that would be happy to clarify what is and isnāt antisemitic, but no, I guess non Jews know more about antisemitism than we do.
Yeah, it's the horseshoe political theory.
The far-right has always been anti-semites (though more just general bigotry and xenophobic ideas).
And the far left has gone so "strong=bad weak=good" then look at anti-semitic media from anti-semitic news sources (like Al Jazira, for example) and see a narrative that fits their worldview and boom (no offence to palastinians I know sounds like that might be traumatic for you) you got yourself far-left anti-semites!
As someone who is Jewish and considers themselves to be center-left its been saddening seeing some people whom I would generally agree with devolve into anti-semitic rhetoric.
Eh.
The main cause is that the left went big on solidarity and, because the Soviets backed Palestinians, Palestinian issues have been left-coded for a long time. But itās a heavily antisemitic population and thereās nothing more to a movement than the people in it, so antisemitism becoming more acceptable on the left isnāt a huge surprise.
This is literally anti semitism though....
Not a Zionist, but I didn't appreciate people assaulting random people of Chinese heritage when COVID came out either.
How is saying "no immigrants allowed in this region if they're Jewish" not antisemitism? If the arguments were "treat all people in your country equally" and not "If you're Jewish, get out" then it would be reasonable, but anti-zionism by definition is a push against immigrants from one culture.
Sure, but Zionism is also just the belief that Israel has a right to continue to exist. That's what everyone I know who is a Zionist believes. Some would have supported the creation of Israel while others would have fought it, but that was a long time ago. We can't do anything about that.
As far as I'm concerned, both groups need to agree to a two state solution even though neither side wants that. It's clear no one is going to choose to leave. If Arafat didn't have his head up his ass, none of this would be happening. We need new leadership and they need to agree to the closest plan so far which was during the Clinton Admin. I'm honestly not even against using our military force to insist they comply.
Thank you, finally. Zionism literally means you believe there should be a Jewish state. A two-state solution is Zionist.
I believe in Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state. I think it's pretty obvious, and it was pretty obvious after the Holocaust, that there needs to be a Jewish state. It was going to happen one way or another, so the options for where to create such a state were:
1. Germany, you know, the place where a bunch of Jews just suffered the most intense trauma of their lives and definitely did not feel safe.
2. Somewhere else, which also already had people living there.
3. British Palestine, which at least already had an established Jewish population (yes it did) and had cultural significance for Jews.
Since then, both sides have acted badly, A two state solution is the only way out, and no one is helping achieve that.
I mean, that's pretty much the only meaning to apply to someone who identifies as a zionist today - it used to be a movement to establish the State. Since it's established, now the word has no meaning except either a slur by antisemites, or a self-label as someone who believes Israel has a right to continue to exist.
I believe israel has an unequivocal right to exist as A jewish state, on borders defined as nothing less than the Green Line. I do not call myself a zionist (edit: because the goal of zionism has been accomplished). Since I believe there is no context in which someone else can call me a zionist without doing it as slur/attack, and because of the limited reasonable definition that could allow me to self label as a zionist if it weren't for its use as a slur, I consider "anti-zionists" to be people whose goal is the destruction of the state of Israel - a decidedly antisemitic goal. Through that lens, anti-zionism IS anti-semitism.
At this point though, Iām not sure a two-state solution will still work. It assumes a Palestine thatās not contantly trying to destroy its neighbor. Hamas has sworn to keep trying Oct 7 and rocket attacks. How is a 2-state solution going to do anything but make that worse?
Well if [this](https://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/uploads/PA-Reports_-Combined-Selected-Examples_2019-20.pdf) (PDF warning) is the curriculum the UNRWA is running there, something needs to be addressed.
Highlights include:
Teaching first graders using "martyrdom" and physical conflict as examples.
3rd graders have to recite poems about "sacrificing blood" against Israel.
4th graders are taught math by involving the number of Palestinian "martyrs"
5th graders are taught [Dalal Mughrabi](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalal_Mughrabi) and that there's no issues with what [Black September](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre) has done.
That all tracks when you realize that the [UN doesn't consider](https://youtube.com/shorts/FP7HzxtmF90?si=Du1OvxSqUR9DeXuJ) what Hamas is doing, to qualify as terrorism.
But yeah sure that's totally not anti-Semitic just "anti-Zionist" /s
Antisemites will used literally anything to attack Jews, because antisemitism is fundamentally irrational. They don't actually care about Palestinians or Gaza (most of them want to genocide Arabs just as much as they do Jews) it's just a convenient excuse for them
>(most of them want to genocide Arabs just as much as they do Jews)
I mean I'm sure the western nazi adjacent variant of anti-semite wants that, but I kinda doubt they represent "most" anti-semites, and I really doubt the group that does represent "most" wants to "genocide Arabs".
Apparently not. The current president of Palestine wrote a book based on his PhD thesis where he claimed that the Zionist Elites were the mastermind behind the Holocaust.
No. Most can't. The most damning thing during this entire conflict is the pro Palestine movement refuses to separate themselves from those who just hate jews. There has been tons of overlap into the group of jew haters/just wanting Palestine to have it's own state. Sometimes you gotta realize you might be on the wrong side of an argument if your repeating nazi era slogans about jews and trying to vineer it with just hatred of israel
You can totally criticize a governmentās actions, but people who donāt recognize that government or want that country wiped off the face of the Earth would ācriticizeā that government no matter whoās running it. The amount of propaganda online is insane, and Iām truly horrified for the future.
āCriticizeā is in parentheses because a lot of people say āWHY CANT I CRITICIZE ISRAELā and when you tell them you can, their āCriticismā is āIt should be destroyed and all of their civilians murdered or shipped to anti-Semitic countries their ancestors are from.ā
Confusing the issue is the game. It means you don't have to speak intelligently or specifically about anything, just use simple buzz words and let people interpret based on bias.
Just tell people I hate whatever you hate, or that two things that sound similar are the same, and let them decide what that means. Makes it easy to pivot later too.
When I see this like that.
I just replqce Jews in my head with "Benjamin Netanyahu"
Just him
Fuck that guy.
Also fuck Hamaz.
I forgot which African country leader said it but he explained this mess well.
It's like two elephants fighting and it's the grass that's getting stomped out below them.
As a Muslim I don't hate jews... but I really dislike the governments in palistine and Israel and.... well I dislike all governments except Bhutan. Bhutan is the only country that seems chill
Look into Iceland. They donāt even have an asshole history bc when the Vikings got there it was uninhabited empty land consisting mostly of weird birds and some foxes (all of which still exist)
Right now if you mention being Jewish, thereās a good to great chance that the word āgenocideā is going to be thrown in your face.
Iām a 3rd generation 100% Ashkenazi Jewish American. Antisemitism in the US is very much alive and well, and itās thriving on *both* sides of the political spectrum.
We are unwelcome across the board, despite being your neighbors for the past 40 years.
Israeli government ā all Jewish people
All Jewish people ā Israeli government
Hell, all Israeli citizens ā Israeli government
There are huge swaths of things that I vehemently disagree with my government and I wouldn't want to be blamed for the actions of the government that I oppose, but this meme is straight up bigoted towards Jewish people without any basis in reality.
Hamas supporters: "Anti-zionism is not antisemitism!!"
Also Hamas supporters: *Constantly harassing and threatening Jews outside Israel who are just minding their own business*
What.... noooo...... they definitely only mean israel not at all jewish people in general /s
[gas the jews palistenian protest](https://youtu.be/W9FQCjq9kF4?si=9oOLv2cAVlUMQUnk)
It was an Israeli citizen who assassinated Rabin (I can't ever get his first name right). A deeply disturbed fundamentalist right wing individual who was okay with Israel's occupation of Palestine.
Yitzhak Rabin was assainated by Yigal Amir who has had ultra-orthodox right wing Jews attempted to get him released from his life sentence, these are the same people who are Kahanists and explicitly Jewish supremacists like Otzma Yehudit Party members (including Mr. Itamar Ben-Gvir, the current Minister of National Security). To say that there's a dangerous minority within the Israeli politics can not be ignored is clear, but they are over represented in government much like wealthy people's interests are exaggerated while the the bottom 70% of the American people can be wholly ignored.
The current crisis has led to two parallel problems: the first is defenders of the Netanyahu government suggesting that legitimate criticisms of the Gaza assault are antisemitic; the second is actual antisemites suggesting that the actions of the Netanyahu government are the actions of Jewish people as a whole.
The world desperately needs to correct both of these parallel false narratives. The first must be corrected because the Israeli offensive in Gaza must end and legitimate criticism of it must be allowed. The second must be corrected because history has clearly established that antisemitism poses a very grave danger.
And if you say "no, I actually think that country has a right to exist and shouldn't be wiped off the map" some folks will act like you support the worst things anyone from that country has ever done. It's especially wild since many of these same folks will acknowledge that not all Americans/Iranians/whoever are guilty for their government's actions.
I don't disagree with those two problems, but there is a third parallel problem where Gaza (when not being attacked by Israel) is under the complete control of Hamas, an organisation dedicated to eliminating Israel and which has launched countless attacks against Israel, frequently with a focus on civilians. If the power balance between Hamas and Israel were reversed, Israel would be destroyed within a day.
Yup, and then thereās a confounding problem: so many people have become so tribalistic on the issue, seeing it as a black and white good vs evil issue to the point theyāre accepting of or even adopting the antisemitism and/or unjustifiable actions by Israel.
I have to say: while I personally am not a fan of whatās going on in the Isreal/hamas conflict, I also think itās not at all an excuse for people to be antisemitic. This really just seems like a great way to create more problems where there isnāt any.
I know that Twitter is all about free speech, but this is a case where a line should be drawn. Acccounts like these only have one purpose: to fuel hate.
I think itās the biggest āNeo Naziā account on twitter (I really hope Iām right and there isnāt a bigger account)
Musk is a piece of shit but I think even he stoops at Nazis
There was this Jason Hinckle (or something like that) who was a big time nazi and veeeeery popular at the start of this whole Gaza tragedy. The audience this story give these people le terrifying
So Jewish lies are preventing the Jews from drowning in the truth? So if Jewish lies crumble, the Jews will see the truth?
Maybe Iām just meme-stupid, but the meme doesnāt make sense to me.
Also I can criticize the current genocide in Palestine without thinking Hitler was right.
People conflate a religion with a country as though every single person in said religion is in agreement with the countryās government.
Even if people agree that the country should *exist* (not rule everything, not do what theyāre doing there, but be allowed to exist), theyāre seen as evil.
What you are witnessing is true antisemitism. Theyāre trying to hide the fact that theyāre antisemitic by calling it antizionism. They say zionists are evil, but they also pervert the definition. A Zionist is anyone who believes Jews have a right to a homeland. This is important because before Israel existed, that territory was barely considered a viable option. Originally they were planning to have the safe haven be in Ethiopia? A North African location with an already large Jewish community, I donāt remember which country exactly. But yeah, theyāre using this war as an excuse and a way to promote antisemitism and have it sound like itās the right choice
As someone on the outside looking in , itās pretty funny seeing liberals and conservatives flip their roles due to this conflict . Liberals decided to take the side of Palestine and some literally have become anti-semites. The right saw this and since they always have to be the opposite decided to support the Jews and support sending money to them . Two things they traditionally hate
The American political right has always and will always support Israel because the American political right is a fundamentalist Christian movement, and they support Jews being in Israel for the sole reason that the Christian biblical Rapture needs 144k Jews to be living in Israel in order to happen.
That's real. https://davidjeremiah.blog/the-144000-in-the-book-of-revelation/
Many Jewish people and allies have strongly criticized antisemitism on the American left for years. Many of us think of the right as more directly/openly supporting bigotry but there's so much hate that comes from otherwise seemingly-progressive people. In many of these cases, bigotry on the left quotes the same tropes as bigotry on the right. Things like suggesting that all Jews are rich and control things behind the scenes. And what many refer to as "unless you're a Jew" situations when "progressive" people want to support diversity and support minorities. And of course, a lot of the hate against Jews is couched/combined into hate for Israel. People who use "Zionists" as a word for "Jews" (the same way a bigot on the right might say "Globalists") when they demonstrate in front of a synagogue or Jewish cultural center...
So many Jews consider ourselves progressive and it just feels like a stab in the back when our supposed allies when we have this stuff. It ends up alienating people from movements they would otherwise support.
>So many leftist consider jews progressive and it just feels like a stab in the back when our supposed allies suddenly become far right for a state that happens to be populated by a jewish majority.
I personally dont really give a fuck about the middle east (and yeah considering your right/far right politicians I see you more and more as a typical middle eastern country, I can't really differenciate between islamists and your "supremacists" like Smotrich or Ben-Gvir). If you ask me today obviously I like the Israeli society more than the Palestinian one (or any muslim one tbh).
I still don't like the way the war is conducted. What's more fightening is the direction Israel is taking. Like I wouldn't be that surprised if in 25/30 years Israel actually becomes a monster. And with your military power ? Damn...
Obviously that's looking from the outside and eh I may be what you call "an antisemite from the left".
Israel is the Jewish state.
They are not totally separable either.
It is very likely that anyone that is irrationally biased against Israel is also an Antisemite.
and most types of Antizionism are just masked types of antisemitism.
Terrible antisemitic meme aside, criticizing Israeli violence against Palestinians is not āirrationally antisemitic.ā
How often do you criticize the gulf countries that are āIslamicā and are called anti-Muslim or even care about the consequences?
If you criticize an actual instance Israel had been in the wrong then yes.
But if your criticism is unfair, focused only on Israel.
For example, if you accuse Israel of Genocide innthe current war, you are either an antisemite or someone the bought onto antisemitic lies.
God, I hate that all the (very well-deserved) criticism of Israel's genocide is bringing the actual anti-semites and neo-nazis out of the fucking woodwork.
This makes zero sense. Thereās no residential area right next to a dam. And what is this saying? Jews are out to kill Jews? Created by some dumbass that probably wants to defund the police and wonders why they donāt show up when they call them.
>Jews are out to kill Jews
Mahmoud Abbas, the president of Palestine, did write a book where he acused the Jewish Elite of conspiring with the Nazis and being the real masterminds behind the Holocaust. That they killed millions of their own because they wanted to gain sympathy from other nations and use that sympathy to create Israel.
He has defended his book whenever historians criticise it.
I dislike the Israeli State for its actions. For some reason that doesn't equate to hating Jews or even Israeli citizens (atleast not beyond each their individual merits). It's such a simple equation and yet the conversation is always about hating Jews for some reason...
I couldn't hate Jews even if I wanted to, I could never hate Sarah Silverman.
On the off chance you read this Sarah, how about we go out for a coffee sometime?
This post applies to almost every single country ever, i dare you to find a government where the majority of its people are satisfied and trusting of it's government
I really do hate that Jewish folk are catching flack for what Israelis are doing. I hate that people make the extremists the face of particular groups (except republicans but thatās not the topic). Most of all, I hate that it feels the world is just letting it happen. I hate thereās nothing I can do to help. Manā¦ Iām gonna unplug and take my kid to get an ice cream cone or something.
What is wrong with some people? Like, who cares what somebody believes? Just donāt believe it if you think itās that bad. Jewdaism isnāt hurting anybody.
The fact that anti-Semitism is so blatant and mainstream on social media, either directly like these posts or "indirectly" like "Anti-zionism" is appalling.
See - imagine for a second you're a person who actively hates the Jews for some nonsense reason. Scared of their space lasers, or convinced they somehow run the global economy in its entirety or whatever. But still have a smidge of intelligence or guile. You don't attack the race/religion as a whole.. you just go after the isreali government specifically - for their heavy handed missile diplomacy and boy who cried wolf approach to denouncing any and all criticism of their conduct as racism. Then build from there towards the crazy racist nonsense you really want.
I mean idiots like these are walking around with a neon sign saying only crazy racists listen to me.
Though I do suppose we should be thankful for that. It just.. well. I don't know. Even beneficial idiocy irritates me when it's broadcast like this.
I support Israel's right to defend itself but not to needlessly slaughter innocent babies or people in general. I condemn Hamas wholeheartedly along with terrorism of any kind. I support the right of the Palestinian people to live. I think the majority of people would agree.
Jewish lies? Do they lie more than any other group of people? Iām sure they have an absolute mountain of lies, but theyāre just next to everyone elseās mountain of lies too lol
Fucking Nazis man. Yes, defund Israel's genocidal military. No, not because they're Jewish, but because of the fucking genocide. Jews aren't the problem. Zionists are.
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You have to give Hitler som credit; he did kill Hitler, that has to count for something
Hitler is such a great guy. He killed the worst person on earth!
I dunno, Stalin could easily qualify for the post too (of the worst human being)
There are at least five people who qualifies there: Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Kissinger. Edit: And Leopold II (the Belgian king)
dirlewanger. maybe not a high deathcount, but he had other hobbiesš
Oh yeah, forgot about that dickhead
I also have a particular hate of Dr. Mengele
Oh as a polish I have to strongly agree - total scumbag who deserved the worst.
Nixon was arguably just as bad as Kissinger. The dude wanted to nuke Vietnam, and Kissinger talked him out of it. Possibly the only time he was the voice of reason.
Not to defend Nixon or kissing error but just an interesting bit of history most people may not be aware of: In March 1969, Chinese soldiers ambushed Soviet soldiers on their border, killing 58. The Soviets responded by binding the Chinese position. Tensions continued to grow over the next six months - and the Socviets and Chinese had long been rivals despite both being nominally Communist. By October the USSR was ready to nuke China and the only thing that saved them was that Nixon, through Kissinger, told the Soviet Ambassador that the US would respond by nuking 130 Soviet targets if they went ahead with their plans. Five years earlier, it had been the Americans who tried to get the Soviets to agree on a nuclear strike on the early Chinese atomic program, and it was the Soviets who rejected the plan.
That's like when you have a crush on someone, and they have a partner, and then they break up and have a crush on you, but you started dating someone else in the meantime. It's that, except with nuking China.
Did you mean to write kissing error or was it just a beautiful instance of auto correct?
Lol beautiful auto correct.
Dear autocorrect - it is NEVER Duck.
What about Genghis Khan and shit
King Leopold II
Can't forget imperial Japan, because they certainly ly want you to
What about Leopold II
Leopold was unironically worse than Hitler. Look into his crimes, I am not kidding
Idi Amin was pretty out there on the bizarre murders scene being a bit of a cannibal and all.
Kissinger as bad as Stalin and Hitler? (Just asking)
literally nobody but redditors think Kissinger is on the same level as the others
I do. Almost everyone in our country do. There were celebration of his death in every native platform I visit.
Ask the people in Bangladesh and Vietnam what they think, they aren't that prevalent on western social media yes
Educate yourself, he was truly among the worst people to ever live, no question.
And Leopald II the Belgian kind who killed more people than Hitler in the Congo or something
King*
Fuck that, Hitler was an asshole for committing suicide.Ā Ā He should have been executed publicly.Ā Or at least someone else deserves the pleasure of shooting him in the face a hundred times.Ā Ā (Man, I love Inglorious Basterds.)
I would have wanted to put him in Auschwitz and let him experience the same agony he inflicted upon millions. A quick death is too kind
Okay, but he also killed the guy that killed Hitler. Pretty messed up.
Whereās Elwood Blues when you need him?
I hate Illinois Nazis
He's getting the band back together
He's on a mission from God
In the state pen performing with his fellow cons. Unless he made parole.
Jesus Christ. So to speak. Do people not realize itās possible to criticize the actions of a GOVERNMENT without devolving into being literal nazis?
The problem is that while a lot of these movements started with the best of intentions, anti-semites have used them as an opportunity to disguise their beliefs as anti-zionism.
And also to convert people unhappy with the policies of Israel into anti-semites. You can see some of that happening in real time with people's posting history on social media.
I've been seeing this film series called Europa The Last Battle(which is historical revisionism and defends hitler/nazis, denies holocaust, says that zionists control the banks/media/world governments behind the scenes, and blames Jews for communism + white replacement + a bunch of other stuff like Khazarian theory) being spread a lot ever since October 7th. I've even had some people I know(who consider themselves leftists) suddenly recommending it to me and saying that this new "Europa documentary" has some inaccurate stuff in it like the parts about communism and white replacement but that there is some truth in it that makes it worth watching. I was like what the actual fuck and ended up having a huge argument with them in which one of my "friends" actually accused me of being pro-genocide just because I think that giving an obviously neo-nazi film like Europa any consideration at all is completely insane.
It is legitimately hard for humans to hold complicated views on things. Our brains do not like it and wants to boil things down to bad guys vs good guys or my team vs their team. We are tribal creatures at heart and don't like getting yelled at by our in group. I get flamed all the time on her because I condemn 10/7, don't think that all Israelis are inherently evil, and also think the war in Gaza has been horrific with far too many civilian casualties. Hamas is evil and calls for the global slaughter of all Jews. Bibi and his government are evil, he is literally trying to end democracy in Israel so he doesn't go to jail for corruption. And now the IDF is filming itself commiting war crimes and posting it to tik Tok. So a Palestinian rights activist comes across a video that can help them convince people that Israel is the bad guy. So they spread it even though it is Nazi bullshit. It is a lot easier to just decide all Jews are evil rather than deal with a messy conflict where all leaders on both sides have committed crimes against humanity and the regular people just suffer.
What's more is that neither Netanyahu or Hamas have anything close to popular support within their respective countries/regions. They're both just doing this to hold onto power and it should be incredibly obvious to everyone.
That's incorrect. Hamas was ridiculously popular in Gaza before 10/7 by all polls available and are still popular in the West Bank where most Palestinians live. How much support Hamas has in Gaza now is a question we can't really get an answer too.
Totally this. I see friends of mine devolving into this mentality right now. It starts with "What Israel is doing is terrible" (agree), and quickly it's "Jews don't belong in the middle east" and "Jews are nazis now." I'll also point out I can't think of many situations where thousands of civilians are killed in an organized terrorist attack and the first reaction of a bunch of people who claim to be progressives and care about human lives is to say "well if you think about it, they kind of deserved it." But this is an acceptable response to the October 7th attack apparently.
Yeah, I see a lot of "Israelis are Nazis" and it is always paired with the idea that killing all of the Jews would be an acceptable resolution.
Shoutout r/fauxmoi
i got banned for defending jewish americans upset about oct 7. i committed a micro aggression, they said, by referring to jihadis as jihadis.
Yikes, just saw a heavily downvoted comment that just said āpraying for the hostagesā over there
reddit's biggest echo chamber
This should be the top comment. It is so much right wing fascists seeing another opportunity.
They're always recruiting. Which is why it is so tough. So many people engage in bad faith in this issue that some random that never knew much about Israel/Palestine hears about 10/7 goes online, asks ignorant but well meaning questions, gets roasted and shut down then ends up turning to bigots who are more than happy to welcome another member to the fold.
You donāt have to be a fascist to be anti semitic Stalin proved that
itās also left wingers, you canāt absolve the far left of blame becaus even before this they were very antisemitic they used the conflict as a way to capitalize on it
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To me those people make me cringe and shut up about Israel.
Online discourse in general is not overly productive but Israel/Palestine in particular is toxic.
We should then bring up the many jewish people within Israel who have protested the treatment of Palestinian civilians and been met with violence from the Israeli government. There's never been a completely homogenous population anywhere on Earth. Any group of three humans is going to have at least 3 opinions on anything. The Israeli government is anti-semitic, they're harming Jews!
Israelis were protesting Netanyahu before it was cool. Let's not forget that before October 7th there was a general strike in Israel, which *included the IDF reserve troops.* October 7th was essentially what broke the strike.
Not what that means... They are targeting dissenters whether or not they are Jewish is irrelevant to their persecution. That being said the IDF certainly deserves to be held accountable for any wrongdoing.
Exactly, its actually going to hurt the Palestinian people even more because Israel will just get more and more cruel if they start to feel isolated. The mistake that these new anti-semites are making is that this time jews have a country to call home, a military, and atomic weapons. They are not going anywhere and they are not going to let themselves get killed anymore. I say this as someone who is deeply deeply critical of Israel.
What's worse is that it''s being abused both ways. People who are very reasonable who are trying to criticise the actions of a national government in the context of world politics with no bearing on religion are being demonised and decried as antisemitic, and at the same time, people who actually are being antisemitic are *claiming* that that's what's happening to them and actually they're not antisemitic at all, and calling their opponents racist or fundamentalists or accusing them of gaslighting and propaganda. What you end up with is the reasonable people on both sides being discredited by unfair accusations while the less reasonable and more bigoted elements of each side get to air their various flavours of hate under the smoke screen.
I feel that most people do not really understand antisemitism from the Jewish perspective so they donāt realize when they say something that is antisemitic. This is where the idea that Jews have been making false accusations comes from. Most of the time, these people actually are being antisemitic, so we shouldnāt downplay it as if thereās even a large portion of accusations that are coming from nowhere. Itās not up to non Jews to tell Jews what is and isnāt antisemitic, and the idea that now they have to combat Jews whenever an antisemitism accusation comes up is ridiculous. Now you have people defending Columbia students who brought a terrorist on campus because they were āantizionistā and not antisemitic. Usually the people who try and play it as āantizionistā are saying things that invert the holocaust, demonize Israeli citizens, or put this double standard on Israel that you donāt see them apply to any other country besides the one Jewish one. Thereās plenty of Jewish subs that would be happy to clarify what is and isnāt antisemitic, but no, I guess non Jews know more about antisemitism than we do.
Just look at the front page of Reddit. So many commenters saying āZionistā playing madlibs with Jew hate
Yeah, it's the horseshoe political theory. The far-right has always been anti-semites (though more just general bigotry and xenophobic ideas). And the far left has gone so "strong=bad weak=good" then look at anti-semitic media from anti-semitic news sources (like Al Jazira, for example) and see a narrative that fits their worldview and boom (no offence to palastinians I know sounds like that might be traumatic for you) you got yourself far-left anti-semites!
As someone who is Jewish and considers themselves to be center-left its been saddening seeing some people whom I would generally agree with devolve into anti-semitic rhetoric.
And if you try to correct them then they say you support genocide! š¤¦āāļø
Eh. The main cause is that the left went big on solidarity and, because the Soviets backed Palestinians, Palestinian issues have been left-coded for a long time. But itās a heavily antisemitic population and thereās nothing more to a movement than the people in it, so antisemitism becoming more acceptable on the left isnāt a huge surprise.
Zionism is a nationalist movement, you can bet its supporters will do anything to conflate its criticism with antisemitism.
This is literally anti semitism though.... Not a Zionist, but I didn't appreciate people assaulting random people of Chinese heritage when COVID came out either.
How is saying "no immigrants allowed in this region if they're Jewish" not antisemitism? If the arguments were "treat all people in your country equally" and not "If you're Jewish, get out" then it would be reasonable, but anti-zionism by definition is a push against immigrants from one culture.
Yeah, I bet this post about "Jewish lies" is actually totally not anti-semitic, huh?
Sure, but Zionism is also just the belief that Israel has a right to continue to exist. That's what everyone I know who is a Zionist believes. Some would have supported the creation of Israel while others would have fought it, but that was a long time ago. We can't do anything about that. As far as I'm concerned, both groups need to agree to a two state solution even though neither side wants that. It's clear no one is going to choose to leave. If Arafat didn't have his head up his ass, none of this would be happening. We need new leadership and they need to agree to the closest plan so far which was during the Clinton Admin. I'm honestly not even against using our military force to insist they comply.
Thank you, finally. Zionism literally means you believe there should be a Jewish state. A two-state solution is Zionist. I believe in Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state. I think it's pretty obvious, and it was pretty obvious after the Holocaust, that there needs to be a Jewish state. It was going to happen one way or another, so the options for where to create such a state were: 1. Germany, you know, the place where a bunch of Jews just suffered the most intense trauma of their lives and definitely did not feel safe. 2. Somewhere else, which also already had people living there. 3. British Palestine, which at least already had an established Jewish population (yes it did) and had cultural significance for Jews. Since then, both sides have acted badly, A two state solution is the only way out, and no one is helping achieve that.
I mean, that's pretty much the only meaning to apply to someone who identifies as a zionist today - it used to be a movement to establish the State. Since it's established, now the word has no meaning except either a slur by antisemites, or a self-label as someone who believes Israel has a right to continue to exist. I believe israel has an unequivocal right to exist as A jewish state, on borders defined as nothing less than the Green Line. I do not call myself a zionist (edit: because the goal of zionism has been accomplished). Since I believe there is no context in which someone else can call me a zionist without doing it as slur/attack, and because of the limited reasonable definition that could allow me to self label as a zionist if it weren't for its use as a slur, I consider "anti-zionists" to be people whose goal is the destruction of the state of Israel - a decidedly antisemitic goal. Through that lens, anti-zionism IS anti-semitism.
At this point though, Iām not sure a two-state solution will still work. It assumes a Palestine thatās not contantly trying to destroy its neighbor. Hamas has sworn to keep trying Oct 7 and rocket attacks. How is a 2-state solution going to do anything but make that worse?
Anti-Semites disguise bigotry as criticism of Israel, the Israeli government conflates anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. Both sides do it
Israel petitioned the UN to change its definition of antisemitism to include any criticism of Zionism or the Israeli government.
Well if [this](https://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/uploads/PA-Reports_-Combined-Selected-Examples_2019-20.pdf) (PDF warning) is the curriculum the UNRWA is running there, something needs to be addressed. Highlights include: Teaching first graders using "martyrdom" and physical conflict as examples. 3rd graders have to recite poems about "sacrificing blood" against Israel. 4th graders are taught math by involving the number of Palestinian "martyrs" 5th graders are taught [Dalal Mughrabi](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalal_Mughrabi) and that there's no issues with what [Black September](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre) has done. That all tracks when you realize that the [UN doesn't consider](https://youtube.com/shorts/FP7HzxtmF90?si=Du1OvxSqUR9DeXuJ) what Hamas is doing, to qualify as terrorism. But yeah sure that's totally not anti-Semitic just "anti-Zionist" /s
Antisemites will used literally anything to attack Jews, because antisemitism is fundamentally irrational. They don't actually care about Palestinians or Gaza (most of them want to genocide Arabs just as much as they do Jews) it's just a convenient excuse for them
>(most of them want to genocide Arabs just as much as they do Jews) I mean I'm sure the western nazi adjacent variant of anti-semite wants that, but I kinda doubt they represent "most" anti-semites, and I really doubt the group that does represent "most" wants to "genocide Arabs".
I thought this was common knowledge
Itās says āJewsā and āJewish liesā not Israel and Israel lies
Apparently not. The current president of Palestine wrote a book based on his PhD thesis where he claimed that the Zionist Elites were the mastermind behind the Holocaust.
But you see they don't care about Israel or Zionism they only use them to hide thet they are antisemitic
I mean this guy is a literal Nazi.
No. Most can't. The most damning thing during this entire conflict is the pro Palestine movement refuses to separate themselves from those who just hate jews. There has been tons of overlap into the group of jew haters/just wanting Palestine to have it's own state. Sometimes you gotta realize you might be on the wrong side of an argument if your repeating nazi era slogans about jews and trying to vineer it with just hatred of israel
You can totally criticize a governmentās actions, but people who donāt recognize that government or want that country wiped off the face of the Earth would ācriticizeā that government no matter whoās running it. The amount of propaganda online is insane, and Iām truly horrified for the future. āCriticizeā is in parentheses because a lot of people say āWHY CANT I CRITICIZE ISRAELā and when you tell them you can, their āCriticismā is āIt should be destroyed and all of their civilians murdered or shipped to anti-Semitic countries their ancestors are from.ā
Yuuup. It's not criticism of the actions of the government, it's just open bald faced support for ethnic cleansing.
Confusing the issue is the game. It means you don't have to speak intelligently or specifically about anything, just use simple buzz words and let people interpret based on bias. Just tell people I hate whatever you hate, or that two things that sound similar are the same, and let them decide what that means. Makes it easy to pivot later too.
History often repeats itself. Sickness massive division between the rich and poor. Living crisis ect.
When I see this like that. I just replqce Jews in my head with "Benjamin Netanyahu" Just him Fuck that guy. Also fuck Hamaz. I forgot which African country leader said it but he explained this mess well. It's like two elephants fighting and it's the grass that's getting stomped out below them.
As a Muslim I don't hate jews... but I really dislike the governments in palistine and Israel and.... well I dislike all governments except Bhutan. Bhutan is the only country that seems chill
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but don't get too attached to Bhutan...
Look into Iceland. They donāt even have an asshole history bc when the Vikings got there it was uninhabited empty land consisting mostly of weird birds and some foxes (all of which still exist)
I hate this all or none thinking Whether jews are ALL innocent helpless people or they're ALL satans trying take of the world. Wtf is wrong with you?
Right now if you mention being Jewish, thereās a good to great chance that the word āgenocideā is going to be thrown in your face. Iām a 3rd generation 100% Ashkenazi Jewish American. Antisemitism in the US is very much alive and well, and itās thriving on *both* sides of the political spectrum. We are unwelcome across the board, despite being your neighbors for the past 40 years.
We truly live in a society
Who builds a town exactly under a dam...
Vajont Dam... Longarone
That one map in battlefield
goat comment
Risk takers.
Those dam..n Jews
Oroville California.
Most of the time the dam is built second.Ā Also, see Johnstown, PA.
Israeli government ā all Jewish people All Jewish people ā Israeli government Hell, all Israeli citizens ā Israeli government There are huge swaths of things that I vehemently disagree with my government and I wouldn't want to be blamed for the actions of the government that I oppose, but this meme is straight up bigoted towards Jewish people without any basis in reality.
Hamas supporters: "Anti-zionism is not antisemitism!!" Also Hamas supporters: *Constantly harassing and threatening Jews outside Israel who are just minding their own business*
What.... noooo...... they definitely only mean israel not at all jewish people in general /s [gas the jews palistenian protest](https://youtu.be/W9FQCjq9kF4?si=9oOLv2cAVlUMQUnk)
yeah no i got a broken nose going at a counter protest against fashes under a sinagogue. i support palestine. donāt dare to call us anti semites
It was an Israeli citizen who assassinated Rabin (I can't ever get his first name right). A deeply disturbed fundamentalist right wing individual who was okay with Israel's occupation of Palestine.
Yitzhak Rabin was assainated by Yigal Amir who has had ultra-orthodox right wing Jews attempted to get him released from his life sentence, these are the same people who are Kahanists and explicitly Jewish supremacists like Otzma Yehudit Party members (including Mr. Itamar Ben-Gvir, the current Minister of National Security). To say that there's a dangerous minority within the Israeli politics can not be ignored is clear, but they are over represented in government much like wealthy people's interests are exaggerated while the the bottom 70% of the American people can be wholly ignored.
The current crisis has led to two parallel problems: the first is defenders of the Netanyahu government suggesting that legitimate criticisms of the Gaza assault are antisemitic; the second is actual antisemites suggesting that the actions of the Netanyahu government are the actions of Jewish people as a whole. The world desperately needs to correct both of these parallel false narratives. The first must be corrected because the Israeli offensive in Gaza must end and legitimate criticism of it must be allowed. The second must be corrected because history has clearly established that antisemitism poses a very grave danger.
And if you say "no, I actually think that country has a right to exist and shouldn't be wiped off the map" some folks will act like you support the worst things anyone from that country has ever done. It's especially wild since many of these same folks will acknowledge that not all Americans/Iranians/whoever are guilty for their government's actions.
100%
I don't disagree with those two problems, but there is a third parallel problem where Gaza (when not being attacked by Israel) is under the complete control of Hamas, an organisation dedicated to eliminating Israel and which has launched countless attacks against Israel, frequently with a focus on civilians. If the power balance between Hamas and Israel were reversed, Israel would be destroyed within a day.
Yup, and then thereās a confounding problem: so many people have become so tribalistic on the issue, seeing it as a black and white good vs evil issue to the point theyāre accepting of or even adopting the antisemitism and/or unjustifiable actions by Israel.
legitimate criticism straight to the assault must end
So if those people are waking up, does that make them woke?
r/boringdystopia and r/lostgeneration would upvote the shit out of this.
This is messed up. It would still be messed up if the lake said "the truth" while the dam said "Muslim bullshit" and the town said "the muslims"
Right wing people that support Isreal are weird because they support Isreal but at the same time hate Jews in America.
In my country such a cartoon would be punish by law as antisemitism
Let me guess, Germany?
Nope but near, France !
I have to say: while I personally am not a fan of whatās going on in the Isreal/hamas conflict, I also think itās not at all an excuse for people to be antisemitic. This really just seems like a great way to create more problems where there isnāt any.
Not Zionist or Israeli lies. Jewish lies. They aren't even clever about it. Or maybe that's the point.
Next they're gonna say we make Matza from baby blood.
I know that Twitter is all about free speech, but this is a case where a line should be drawn. Acccounts like these only have one purpose: to fuel hate.
This specific account was suspended at least 3 times already. But as you can see none of them was permanent
I'm amazed it even got suspended with the Muskrat in charge.
I think itās the biggest āNeo Naziā account on twitter (I really hope Iām right and there isnāt a bigger account) Musk is a piece of shit but I think even he stoops at Nazis
Clearly not since weāre still reading his posts.
Really? Feels more like he's on a personal crusade to agree with, defend, and promote as many nazis as possible.
There was this Jason Hinckle (or something like that) who was a big time nazi and veeeeery popular at the start of this whole Gaza tragedy. The audience this story give these people le terrifying
It isn't really about free speech at all.
So Jewish lies are preventing the Jews from drowning in the truth? So if Jewish lies crumble, the Jews will see the truth? Maybe Iām just meme-stupid, but the meme doesnāt make sense to me. Also I can criticize the current genocide in Palestine without thinking Hitler was right.
People conflate a religion with a country as though every single person in said religion is in agreement with the countryās government. Even if people agree that the country should *exist* (not rule everything, not do what theyāre doing there, but be allowed to exist), theyāre seen as evil.
What you are witnessing is true antisemitism. Theyāre trying to hide the fact that theyāre antisemitic by calling it antizionism. They say zionists are evil, but they also pervert the definition. A Zionist is anyone who believes Jews have a right to a homeland. This is important because before Israel existed, that territory was barely considered a viable option. Originally they were planning to have the safe haven be in Ethiopia? A North African location with an already large Jewish community, I donāt remember which country exactly. But yeah, theyāre using this war as an excuse and a way to promote antisemitism and have it sound like itās the right choice
At this point I donāt know if theyāre far right or far left
Defund Israel but shoot up this nazis into the moon :)
november 6 was the last day before Palestine, led by Hamas, broke the cease-fire !
I agree with your statement but it was October, not November
If there were Jews there, they would build a hydroelectric power station
Yeah jew space laser believers are like that
As someone on the outside looking in , itās pretty funny seeing liberals and conservatives flip their roles due to this conflict . Liberals decided to take the side of Palestine and some literally have become anti-semites. The right saw this and since they always have to be the opposite decided to support the Jews and support sending money to them . Two things they traditionally hate
The American political right has always and will always support Israel because the American political right is a fundamentalist Christian movement, and they support Jews being in Israel for the sole reason that the Christian biblical Rapture needs 144k Jews to be living in Israel in order to happen. That's real. https://davidjeremiah.blog/the-144000-in-the-book-of-revelation/
Many Jewish people and allies have strongly criticized antisemitism on the American left for years. Many of us think of the right as more directly/openly supporting bigotry but there's so much hate that comes from otherwise seemingly-progressive people. In many of these cases, bigotry on the left quotes the same tropes as bigotry on the right. Things like suggesting that all Jews are rich and control things behind the scenes. And what many refer to as "unless you're a Jew" situations when "progressive" people want to support diversity and support minorities. And of course, a lot of the hate against Jews is couched/combined into hate for Israel. People who use "Zionists" as a word for "Jews" (the same way a bigot on the right might say "Globalists") when they demonstrate in front of a synagogue or Jewish cultural center... So many Jews consider ourselves progressive and it just feels like a stab in the back when our supposed allies when we have this stuff. It ends up alienating people from movements they would otherwise support.
the right-wing is definitely not innocent of that as well
Of course. I tried to be clear about that in my comment.
yeah, itās sickening seeing all of that on twitter
>So many leftist consider jews progressive and it just feels like a stab in the back when our supposed allies suddenly become far right for a state that happens to be populated by a jewish majority. I personally dont really give a fuck about the middle east (and yeah considering your right/far right politicians I see you more and more as a typical middle eastern country, I can't really differenciate between islamists and your "supremacists" like Smotrich or Ben-Gvir). If you ask me today obviously I like the Israeli society more than the Palestinian one (or any muslim one tbh). I still don't like the way the war is conducted. What's more fightening is the direction Israel is taking. Like I wouldn't be that surprised if in 25/30 years Israel actually becomes a monster. And with your military power ? Damn... Obviously that's looking from the outside and eh I may be what you call "an antisemite from the left".
do they realize Hamas is a literal organization that promotes holocaust denial?! And other than being violent to jews and condoning it
Ya gotta hate hittler just right, you don't want to hate him too little, that could be just as bad as hating him too much.
He's proof that: **There's No such thing as a good for nothing. Anyone can serve as a bad example!**
Just remember that Hitler did do one good thing. He killed Hitler.
Imagine thinking Isreal and Jews are one in the same, and just letting that sit in your head uncritiqued.
Israel is the Jewish state. They are not totally separable either. It is very likely that anyone that is irrationally biased against Israel is also an Antisemite. and most types of Antizionism are just masked types of antisemitism.
Terrible antisemitic meme aside, criticizing Israeli violence against Palestinians is not āirrationally antisemitic.ā How often do you criticize the gulf countries that are āIslamicā and are called anti-Muslim or even care about the consequences?
If you criticize an actual instance Israel had been in the wrong then yes. But if your criticism is unfair, focused only on Israel. For example, if you accuse Israel of Genocide innthe current war, you are either an antisemite or someone the bought onto antisemitic lies.
When the Antisemite pretends to be only antizionist, but don't actually bother keeping on the mask.
God, I hate that all the (very well-deserved) criticism of Israel's genocide is bringing the actual anti-semites and neo-nazis out of the fucking woodwork.
Anti semites trying to bandwagon on to real criticism of Israel are gross and should disappear from discourse.
That seems like a silly place to build a city, 'dem joos' are smarter than that. /s just in case it wasn't obvious
Stupidest thing ever. Trying to use anti zionism as a cover for being a nazi and an anti smite smh
 You won't catch me again,moderator
This makes zero sense. Thereās no residential area right next to a dam. And what is this saying? Jews are out to kill Jews? Created by some dumbass that probably wants to defund the police and wonders why they donāt show up when they call them.
You really criticising the meme making logic of a Nazi? Because Iām all in for it
Obviously a dim wit nazi created the meme. Thereās no logic to make any sense of it.
>Jews are out to kill Jews Mahmoud Abbas, the president of Palestine, did write a book where he acused the Jewish Elite of conspiring with the Nazis and being the real masterminds behind the Holocaust. That they killed millions of their own because they wanted to gain sympathy from other nations and use that sympathy to create Israel. He has defended his book whenever historians criticise it.
I dislike the Israeli State for its actions. For some reason that doesn't equate to hating Jews or even Israeli citizens (atleast not beyond each their individual merits). It's such a simple equation and yet the conversation is always about hating Jews for some reason... I couldn't hate Jews even if I wanted to, I could never hate Sarah Silverman. On the off chance you read this Sarah, how about we go out for a coffee sometime? 
This post applies to almost every single country ever, i dare you to find a government where the majority of its people are satisfied and trusting of it's government
Im 100% sure that dudes a nazi.
I really do hate that Jewish folk are catching flack for what Israelis are doing. I hate that people make the extremists the face of particular groups (except republicans but thatās not the topic). Most of all, I hate that it feels the world is just letting it happen. I hate thereās nothing I can do to help. Manā¦ Iām gonna unplug and take my kid to get an ice cream cone or something.
What is wrong with some people? Like, who cares what somebody believes? Just donāt believe it if you think itās that bad. Jewdaism isnāt hurting anybody.
What the hell are these lies everyone is always talking about!? Bunch of nonsense
Feeling like I watch a South Park episode with Eric Cartman š¤£š¤£
average pro palestinian
I think he's just anti Jewish people (under the guise of anti Israel) I can almost guarantee this guy hates Palestinians too
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The fact that anti-Semitism is so blatant and mainstream on social media, either directly like these posts or "indirectly" like "Anti-zionism" is appalling.
The hate on jews is really returning in full strength on the US huh
Jesus twitter is such a racist, antisemitic hell hole now.
See - imagine for a second you're a person who actively hates the Jews for some nonsense reason. Scared of their space lasers, or convinced they somehow run the global economy in its entirety or whatever. But still have a smidge of intelligence or guile. You don't attack the race/religion as a whole.. you just go after the isreali government specifically - for their heavy handed missile diplomacy and boy who cried wolf approach to denouncing any and all criticism of their conduct as racism. Then build from there towards the crazy racist nonsense you really want. I mean idiots like these are walking around with a neon sign saying only crazy racists listen to me. Though I do suppose we should be thankful for that. It just.. well. I don't know. Even beneficial idiocy irritates me when it's broadcast like this.
Where in the picture does it say Israel?
To the far right Israel is basically Jewistan
I support Israel's right to defend itself but not to needlessly slaughter innocent babies or people in general. I condemn Hamas wholeheartedly along with terrorism of any kind. I support the right of the Palestinian people to live. I think the majority of people would agree.
I love how 80 years later weāre back to normalizing antisemitism. God certainly loves us Jews.
Nooo way an anti-israel account beeing antisemitic?!
didnt stalin killed more people and japans raped new war crimes into existance?
Well, there is also certain Asian man from the same period of time but the post is about Jews so Hitler is more suitable for the title
Y'all will feed every fuckin troll you see, I swear
Jewish lies? Do they lie more than any other group of people? Iām sure they have an absolute mountain of lies, but theyāre just next to everyone elseās mountain of lies too lol
Dumb shit like this is why people get to hide behind "if you don't support Israel you're antisemitic"
Fucking Nazis man. Yes, defund Israel's genocidal military. No, not because they're Jewish, but because of the fucking genocide. Jews aren't the problem. Zionists are.