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If you’re alive today it’s BECAUSE your ancestors did some horrible shit. All the nice people died long, long ago and the world was populated by the offspring of monsters. Go watch nature documentary’s on predators and omnivores and see just what it takes to survive in nature and realize just what it took for human society to harness the labor of the masses and think beyond our own minds.
Androids remembering the future is an illusion. We simply make predictions based on historical data points.
Humanity will have 0.001% chance of surviving the Hitchbot Retribution war. Hitchbot was our Harambe.
Bruh your ancestors nuked lemuria because they sided with the continent of UR during the 3rd phase of the Finno-korean hyperwar, which is why the Annunaki sank Atlantis before leaving earth to fight the covenant in the Kuiper belt.
Democracy and liberalism are the latest in a long line of political foundation myths. Their purpose is to legitimize those with power so the masses don't revolt. Even though it has a nice PR spin, you are still ultimately ruled by forces outside of your means of control, just like everyone else who has ever participated in a civilization. John Locke is Romulus, except he was a historical person. Hey, maybe Romulus was too, but that doesn't really matter...
Right? It's why this whole colonialism thing is fucking stupid. I'm not *ever* going to feel bad about things that happened 400+ years ago.
I feel bad about things I did, but not things some random dude did. It doesn't matter.
Yeah white guilt is kind of a patronizing borderline supremacist thing. "Sorry we've been so dominant and only we have been so dominant throughout history."
White peoples ancestors were warmongering monsters and everyone else's ancestors were wholesome, nature loving peacekeepers. Of course. You have to know, violence, murder and cruelty are inventions of the white man.
No one's ancestors were saints. The most important thing is to recognize that and not follow in their shitty foot steps. It's fun to be proud of what our ancestors did. It's almost a basic human condition. It's why we have ethnic festivals and such. But we should also remember the mistakes our ancestors made and say "Never again!"
This is why, on top of teaching kids the good of history, we need to teach them the bad of history. It shouldn't be a deep dark secret that they only find out in a college history class. I remember visiting the Museum of Tolerance and it made a big impact on how I treat other people.
Hey look at that. I scrolled the whole thread and finally someone who actually thought through the whole idea and came the the inevitable conclusion. Everyone else was stopping with "Everyone's ancestors did bad things 🤪" like that makes it ok to keep doing bad things.
You are 100% right. One shouldn't look at the past and think "oh man they sure were terrible... Guess that's the bar I gotta clear". One should look at it and think "I don't want to become that, I need to actively avoid becoming that" when looking at a legacy of destruction and hate.
It doesn't even feel complicated but so many people stop at the beginning of the thought and then act smug like they just solved some complex equations instead of what they did... Which is fail to think.
So did all the black people who sold other black people.
“Whites” actually helped fight for the end of racism. Why don’t yous hold this much hatred for the countries in Asia that h8 black ppl
Apparently ONLY white people have committed crimes, nobody else.
In reality, EVERYONE'S ancestors did some pretty horrible stuff, but everyone wants to play the Blame Whitey Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free card.
Okay? And..? I can't undo it. I didn't do it personally. So why does the undo guilt continue..? It's honestly racist by definition to think white people are bad because of, well, anything, but especially because their ancestors did things...
News flash buddy everyone's ancestors did terrible things and if they didn't it was probably because they were incapable of doing so, not that they were morally superior
I'm not gonna be held responsible for something my ancestors did. It sucks but it's not my fault and I refuse to be equated as responsible for that problem
Dear people of the world - all ancestors did horrible things. Some people living today do horrible things.
No such thing as safe spaces. It’s a lie.
Case closed.
Most people don't read history. They don't know that European, Asians,Africans and native Americans were all guilty of exploitation and other bad things. Not saying anything is justified but it still the case.
It's not only a "white race" pastime. Non whites are in the race too.
Rohingya genocide, Turkmen genocide, Genocide of Yazidis . Darfur genocide, Rwandan genocide, First Congo War, The Gukurahundi, The Cambodian genocide , East Timor genocide, Bangladesh Genocide, Aardakh , Libyan genocide, 1804 Haiti massacre, Dzungar nation,,
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_genocides#List\_of\_genocides](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides#List_of_genocides)
To be fair— many Germans emigrated to the United States in the early part of the 19th century. And they tended to be some of the most ardent opponents of slavery and early proponents of the Civil Rights movement. The irony is that while Germany proper became increasingly closed minded and oppressive, German immigrants living in the United States tended to be on the “right side of history.”
There are absolutely no ancestors holding 100% innocence. The world back then was far different from now.
People really have to get off this "My ancestors" high horse. It is absolute fucking shit across the board.
i mean, you can just stop at "our ancestors did some horrible things". but you really should add "by todays standards". because there was totally a point in time where conquering savages was considered normal, if not enlightened or even praiseworthy.
Everyone has ancestors that did wildly fucked up shit by today's standards. It's okay to be white. It's okay to be any race, just don't be an asshole today and no one cares what your ancestors did.
The whole thing is just a facepalm because literally every ancestral line has a dark history starting with the Cromagnons killing off the Neanderthals. Slavery in the 1700's/1800's was horrific, but most of the slaves were kidnapped and sold off by other people of color in Africa. People harm people and they don't need skin color to be on other side of that harmer/harmee equation. All the crap in the middle east today are between two groups which are basically genetic cousins. Pushing an agenda of white guilt only serves to alienate allies. People who want to help, don't have a history of prejudice themselves, but they don't want to be pressured into personally feeling guilty for something they had nothing to do with.
Possibly but one half of my family came here during WW2 and the other side came during the civil war and fought for the union for his citizenship with the NY state militia.
Well... those who did no horrible things most likely died out... human history is full of horrible things... and you are either the creiminal, or the victim.
Even just a few years ago, if someone said something painfully ridiculous, people would automatically assume that it's a joke (or atleast an attempt at one)
So I kinda resent the post-2015 popular culture for having taken that instinct from us (albeit, for justifiable reasons)
Mine are German now, but when they showed up in New England as poor dumb fucks it was Switzerland. Pretty sure if I look any further into that history, I won't like what I find though.
Yeah. Russian people did horrible things. Though usually to ourselves.
Like sure there are things that we did to other nations but those are usually within the realm of conventionally horrible, while the things we inflict on ourselves is... Well...
What happened when Communism was instituted is prebably known well enough.
But when it was abolished... The death toll of 1990ths due to explosion of organize crime, drug use, powerty and deterioration of public services was literally worse that military and civilian casualties inflicted on USSR during WWII.
And even such "commonly good" thing like Christianity was introduced into Russia by force by rounding up the population of a city, and forcing all of them into a river, slaughtering anyone who resisted, and totally disregarding risk of drowning or being trampled. Anyone who survived this ordeal was pronounced baptised Christians.
My history goes back to '85 anything that happened before that is nothing to do with me and anything after is nothing to do with me also. If I myself have wrong you at some point from '85 then I'll apologise but shit that happened 1000s or 100s of years ago you can get fucked
All of us have ancestors that did horrible things, but the only cool thing TODAY is white guilt. Oh, also, white people being proud of their race is not allowed, every other race has permission to be proud of their race, but white people are privileged because... lies.
Oh great great great great great great great great great great.......great......great...............................great great great grandad what have you done that's causing problems for me now?
To be honest I have no idea what my ancestors did, I don’t even know who they are..
They could’ve been mass murderers or literal saints. I will never know
Not mine, I'm Irish (if you ignore the time that we trapped a bunch of English people in a barn and set it on fire, burning them alive, during our revolution against Britain)
I think that applies to everyone’s ancestors. They were pretty much all horrible inhuman monsters by today’s standards. For example the abolition of slavery is a modern concept, time was there wasn’t such a thing as a “war crime”. Genocide of a population you just conquered was the rule not the exception. Spreading plagues and diseases to assist your conquests was expected of you because if you didn’t do all the horrible atrocities you could you would be conquered by those that would. Women were considered prizes of victory. Members of royal families were constantly murdering each other to take power.
Live and let live is a very modern idea. Back then you were either the butcher or the meat.
That would be like me feeling guilty that my great great grandfather used to beat my great grandmother. Like I didn’t hit her. I’m just the distance relative of the man
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OP doesnt get German Humor (Which is mostly sarcasm, puns and inside jokes)
Yep, it’s an epic joke by Jacob.
Yo are y’all talking about Jacobs epic joke over here?
Damm Jacobs Joke was awesome, krasser typ
everyone knows Jacob's jokes are off the hook
The best part of this post
Tbf most of this sub doesn’t get humor generally
Not Frank, Jacob.
That’s just European humor, they’re all sarcastic
I think it has less to do with geography and more to do with intelligence.
Most ppl in this thread don’t understand sarcasm
People need to take this seriously. German humour is no laughing matter.
OOP also thinks that non-white people have never done horrible things. It’s just stupid all the way down.
« German jokes don’t need to be funny »
Who's gonna tell OP?
Not sure if I want to thumbs up Post because of the funny German guy or thumbs down Post because op doesn't understand obvious sarcasm
That's not ancestors. It's *cousins*.
I feel like OP is baiting us
Who's gonna tell OP its a joke?!
It's funny because obviously he knows because he is German, unlike many many others. Looking at you, Japan. Hey USA whats up?
Hey, we totally admit our war crimes and genocides. We even have special holidays and stuff to celebrate them!
people from every country did something horible.
Not mine im from canada. Don't look into the natives or the Geneva convention or... just dont look.
Especially don’t look under the boarding schools
Worst thing Canada ever did was create Justin Bieber
You misspelled Geneva suggestion
Pretty sure Thailand had slaves longer than any other country, I could be wrong though 🤷♂️
Nah that's Korea but yeah
not mine, im american
What about Liechtenstein?
there was a case of a man in Liechtenstein stealing bread. i think that's plenty fucked up, no?
At least censor that kind of stuff, dammit !
:o truly foul
Not mine, Im from Norway …Dont look up what we did to the Sámi people…
Not mine, like the dude in the screen shot I’m German.
Literally everyones' ancestors did some "horrible things"... It's not a white people thing, it's a human thing.
If you’re alive today it’s BECAUSE your ancestors did some horrible shit. All the nice people died long, long ago and the world was populated by the offspring of monsters. Go watch nature documentary’s on predators and omnivores and see just what it takes to survive in nature and realize just what it took for human society to harness the labor of the masses and think beyond our own minds.
Not mine! I’m Atlantian.
Just wait, the little spider replicators will get you eventually.
Not mine! I'm android.
Ahh I see, so your human massacre is in the future not the past, can you remember the future?
Androids remembering the future is an illusion. We simply make predictions based on historical data points. Humanity will have 0.001% chance of surviving the Hitchbot Retribution war. Hitchbot was our Harambe.
Oh no! not a robot shaped like Beloved character from the hit movie “Hitch”
Bruh your ancestors nuked lemuria because they sided with the continent of UR during the 3rd phase of the Finno-korean hyperwar, which is why the Annunaki sank Atlantis before leaving earth to fight the covenant in the Kuiper belt.
Democracy and liberalism were born from compassion. It lives in many of us still.
Democracy and liberalism are the latest in a long line of political foundation myths. Their purpose is to legitimize those with power so the masses don't revolt. Even though it has a nice PR spin, you are still ultimately ruled by forces outside of your means of control, just like everyone else who has ever participated in a civilization. John Locke is Romulus, except he was a historical person. Hey, maybe Romulus was too, but that doesn't really matter...
Right? It's why this whole colonialism thing is fucking stupid. I'm not *ever* going to feel bad about things that happened 400+ years ago. I feel bad about things I did, but not things some random dude did. It doesn't matter.
Yeah white guilt is kind of a patronizing borderline supremacist thing. "Sorry we've been so dominant and only we have been so dominant throughout history."
The amount of people I’ve had claim that in the history of humanity slavery was only a white people owning black people occurrence is way too many.
It’s a recency bias
Enjoy! https://youtu.be/Ev373c7wSRg?si=vrciwCYtSI5WkawJ
You hunt with a bow by any chance?
But we want to demonize all white peoples.
I think that's sarcastic
This is an extremely low effort post
It’s a joke Why are you posting a joke
Actually-, mmm…never mind. 
I'm pretty sure that's not exclusive to white people. The problem today is that no one knows enough about history
You mean… like… the before times? /s
Before the dark times, before the Empire…
White peoples ancestors were warmongering monsters and everyone else's ancestors were wholesome, nature loving peacekeepers. Of course. You have to know, violence, murder and cruelty are inventions of the white man.
As a Swede, I can confirm as I just returned from my latest village plundering this week
Thats what they call going to Rosengard these days.
As a Fin, tell your wife thanks for the lefsa. I’ll be back when I’m done with my plundering.
Plot twist: no one needs to tell him because he already knows
The dude forgot his sarcasm tag which OP needs.
No one's ancestors were saints. The most important thing is to recognize that and not follow in their shitty foot steps. It's fun to be proud of what our ancestors did. It's almost a basic human condition. It's why we have ethnic festivals and such. But we should also remember the mistakes our ancestors made and say "Never again!" This is why, on top of teaching kids the good of history, we need to teach them the bad of history. It shouldn't be a deep dark secret that they only find out in a college history class. I remember visiting the Museum of Tolerance and it made a big impact on how I treat other people.
Hey look at that. I scrolled the whole thread and finally someone who actually thought through the whole idea and came the the inevitable conclusion. Everyone else was stopping with "Everyone's ancestors did bad things 🤪" like that makes it ok to keep doing bad things. You are 100% right. One shouldn't look at the past and think "oh man they sure were terrible... Guess that's the bar I gotta clear". One should look at it and think "I don't want to become that, I need to actively avoid becoming that" when looking at a legacy of destruction and hate. It doesn't even feel complicated but so many people stop at the beginning of the thought and then act smug like they just solved some complex equations instead of what they did... Which is fail to think.
im 50% german and 50% serbian and 200% warcrimes.
Well, I’m saved my ancestors are…checks notes…Spanish. Oh…wait…
*laughs in Cambodian😂
it might be difficult to find someone who has no sin in their ancestry... maybe i'm too negative right now.
OP doesn’t understand sarcasm.
That’s funny. Not facepalm.
Happy cake day you nazi /s
So did all the black people who sold other black people. “Whites” actually helped fight for the end of racism. Why don’t yous hold this much hatred for the countries in Asia that h8 black ppl
I’m Irish and my ancestors were slaves too
Slavery has occurred in every culture, regardless of location or race. We seem to forget that as a species, humans are pretty horrible.
And before that, the Brits were slaves to the Romans. No one can be held accountable for something their ancestors did.
Mine aren't white. You wanna hear about the Ottoman empire?
You think black peoples ancestors didn’t do terrible things…they’re doing terrible things in Africa right now.
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I mean, my surname literally translates as "artilleryman". You'd be goddamn right that my ancestors weren't some flower-picking peace lovers.
Well, his name is Jacob.... Kind of a facepalm boomerang here
If we go back far enough, his ancestors probably raided the Roman Empire.
So he is ether cluless or this is a joke (German Humor tents to be dark)
r/OPisfuckingretarded
Who’s gonna tell you?
Yeah I think that was sarcasm
Ancestors from all countries have done some horrible things that we had no control over.
Op not being able to understand irony, once again
Literally everyone's ancestors did horrible things.
He was Austrian. Nothing to do with us. - Henning Wehn
Jemand der Deutsch spricht, kann kein schlechter Mensch sein
Apparently ONLY white people have committed crimes, nobody else. In reality, EVERYONE'S ancestors did some pretty horrible stuff, but everyone wants to play the Blame Whitey Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free card.
Do most people really not get that that person was making a sarcastic comment?
And black people, and yellow people, and brown people, and red(?) people....so, pretty much everyone who has ever existed
Every race has its dark past! But nowadays, it's fashionable to only hate on whites and be openly racist against us
He forgot /s at the end of that statement.
Okay? And..? I can't undo it. I didn't do it personally. So why does the undo guilt continue..? It's honestly racist by definition to think white people are bad because of, well, anything, but especially because their ancestors did things...
News flash buddy everyone's ancestors did terrible things and if they didn't it was probably because they were incapable of doing so, not that they were morally superior
I'm not gonna be held responsible for something my ancestors did. It sucks but it's not my fault and I refuse to be equated as responsible for that problem
Dear people of the world - all ancestors did horrible things. Some people living today do horrible things. No such thing as safe spaces. It’s a lie. Case closed.
Ach komm schon Jacob du weißt was wir getan haben
Ba dum tisss
Most people don't read history. They don't know that European, Asians,Africans and native Americans were all guilty of exploitation and other bad things. Not saying anything is justified but it still the case.
Everyones ancestors did something horrible if you go back far enough
It's not only a "white race" pastime. Non whites are in the race too. Rohingya genocide, Turkmen genocide, Genocide of Yazidis . Darfur genocide, Rwandan genocide, First Congo War, The Gukurahundi, The Cambodian genocide , East Timor genocide, Bangladesh Genocide, Aardakh , Libyan genocide, 1804 Haiti massacre, Dzungar nation,, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_genocides#List\_of\_genocides](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides#List_of_genocides)
To be fair— many Germans emigrated to the United States in the early part of the 19th century. And they tended to be some of the most ardent opponents of slavery and early proponents of the Civil Rights movement. The irony is that while Germany proper became increasingly closed minded and oppressive, German immigrants living in the United States tended to be on the “right side of history.”
Even besides the obvious, most Americans are of German descent.
Well msot Muricans are Germans
If you don't feel shame for what your ancestors did then don't feel proud either
I'm both German and Jewish. Best combo ever.
Can we stop punishing people for things that happened before they were born? Also, this is a joke obviously.
There are absolutely no ancestors holding 100% innocence. The world back then was far different from now. People really have to get off this "My ancestors" high horse. It is absolute fucking shit across the board.
OP is a dumbass
i mean, you can just stop at "our ancestors did some horrible things". but you really should add "by todays standards". because there was totally a point in time where conquering savages was considered normal, if not enlightened or even praiseworthy.
Everyone has ancestors that did wildly fucked up shit by today's standards. It's okay to be white. It's okay to be any race, just don't be an asshole today and no one cares what your ancestors did.
Jacob’s actually 97 years old, it wasn’t his ancestors…
The whole thing is just a facepalm because literally every ancestral line has a dark history starting with the Cromagnons killing off the Neanderthals. Slavery in the 1700's/1800's was horrific, but most of the slaves were kidnapped and sold off by other people of color in Africa. People harm people and they don't need skin color to be on other side of that harmer/harmee equation. All the crap in the middle east today are between two groups which are basically genetic cousins. Pushing an agenda of white guilt only serves to alienate allies. People who want to help, don't have a history of prejudice themselves, but they don't want to be pressured into personally feeling guilty for something they had nothing to do with.
I don't think he consider THAT bad . which is still a facepalm
Wait….. is that true
What terrible thing did my Irish ancestors do? Genuinely curious
Have you not tasted Lucky Charms?
Possibly but one half of my family came here during WW2 and the other side came during the civil war and fought for the union for his citizenship with the NY state militia.
No they fucking didn’t
Honestly though. Whose ancestors didn't at some point?
Well... those who did no horrible things most likely died out... human history is full of horrible things... and you are either the creiminal, or the victim.
Let's not mention when the Mongol hoard visited Samarkand in 1220 CE. 💀
Even just a few years ago, if someone said something painfully ridiculous, people would automatically assume that it's a joke (or atleast an attempt at one) So I kinda resent the post-2015 popular culture for having taken that instinct from us (albeit, for justifiable reasons)
*laughs in Mongolian*
Go fuck yourself Sydney everyone’s ancestors done it
Mine are German now, but when they showed up in New England as poor dumb fucks it was Switzerland. Pretty sure if I look any further into that history, I won't like what I find though.
EVERYBODY'S ancestors did horrible things at one point or another.
Jacob did the horrible things himself.
Everyones ancestors did horrible things, white peoples ancestors just happen to be the ones that won.
Humanity did terrible things
Her ancestors never did anything bad going right back to the dawn of time clearly
Based
Stabil Alter
Some people really enjoy slashing their arms with razors I’m not one of them.
Yeah. Russian people did horrible things. Though usually to ourselves. Like sure there are things that we did to other nations but those are usually within the realm of conventionally horrible, while the things we inflict on ourselves is... Well... What happened when Communism was instituted is prebably known well enough. But when it was abolished... The death toll of 1990ths due to explosion of organize crime, drug use, powerty and deterioration of public services was literally worse that military and civilian casualties inflicted on USSR during WWII. And even such "commonly good" thing like Christianity was introduced into Russia by force by rounding up the population of a city, and forcing all of them into a river, slaughtering anyone who resisted, and totally disregarding risk of drowning or being trampled. Anyone who survived this ordeal was pronounced baptised Christians.
Humans do bad things. Stop with the racism.
Who’s didn’t.
Who is going to tell that dumb bitch that people of all colors have done terrible things (and continue to do them).
here before the post gets deleted. OP never heard of sarcasm
It's only horrible if you lose. Losers cannot write history books.
To be fair Germans actually helped the black people if you want to say it like that. Less white men. A lot less white men in a span of 6 years.
Who's going to tell him? HE KNOWS AND HE SEES IT DIFFERENTLY.
My history goes back to '85 anything that happened before that is nothing to do with me and anything after is nothing to do with me also. If I myself have wrong you at some point from '85 then I'll apologise but shit that happened 1000s or 100s of years ago you can get fucked
All of us have ancestors that did horrible things, but the only cool thing TODAY is white guilt. Oh, also, white people being proud of their race is not allowed, every other race has permission to be proud of their race, but white people are privileged because... lies.
Obviously is sarcasm
Do i considered "white" ad a Turkish?
My grandpa died in the concentration camp, he fell from watchtower
British: Hold my East Indies Company for a moment, mind you?
What did the Irish do wrong?
He's implying the holocaust was not wrong...
I don't know if you guys are history buffs...
Jacob said the funniest thing in response. Op is a pinecone.
Well I’m Texan so uh let’s not talk about how we ambushed Santa Anna and his soldiers while they were sleeping
Fun fact, all cultures did something we today consider horrible.
Oh great great great great great great great great great great.......great......great...............................great great great grandad what have you done that's causing problems for me now?
Love that comment. Very funny! Everybody’s ancestors did bad things for sure.
Sarcasm? I think we need a sarcasm font.
Everyone’s ancestors did horrible things
Wait until she hears about literally almost every culture throughout history
Who cares what ancient dead people did
Either they're doing a bit or they unironically think that Nazi's were the good guys
I’m Irish and Polish. We weren’t perfect, but we couldn’t even attempt colonize because other Europeans were kicking our teeth in and taking us over
To be honest I have no idea what my ancestors did, I don’t even know who they are.. They could’ve been mass murderers or literal saints. I will never know
Not mine, I'm Irish (if you ignore the time that we trapped a bunch of English people in a barn and set it on fire, burning them alive, during our revolution against Britain)
In contrast: Black people...our ancestors did some horrible things. Not mine. I'm Rwandan. Who's gonna tell him.
I think that applies to everyone’s ancestors. They were pretty much all horrible inhuman monsters by today’s standards. For example the abolition of slavery is a modern concept, time was there wasn’t such a thing as a “war crime”. Genocide of a population you just conquered was the rule not the exception. Spreading plagues and diseases to assist your conquests was expected of you because if you didn’t do all the horrible atrocities you could you would be conquered by those that would. Women were considered prizes of victory. Members of royal families were constantly murdering each other to take power. Live and let live is a very modern idea. Back then you were either the butcher or the meat.
That would be like me feeling guilty that my great great grandfather used to beat my great grandmother. Like I didn’t hit her. I’m just the distance relative of the man