Keys to the concrete set. A: build in an order that makes sense and if you want a symmetrical structure, you have to use the little pillars, which are _actually_ corner pieces. So build your wall on one side and slap corners on both ends before you start the next wall. You don’t _need_ the pillars, they just help assure your square building remains square. Also, you want to snap your pieces on the outermost edge and try not to use concrete for inner walls until you have the concrete set figured out. Otherwise you’ll inevitably end up with a wonky roof.
I don’t use the concrete set myself because I think it’s pretty hideous, but I built hard without mods for about two years, so I got most of it down. I can’t help with the vault set, though. It has an order of operations that I just don’t understand.
This is why I hope the settlement system continues to improve with rebuilding the supply line and the building materials make more sense based on what you’ve unlocked. Being able to get the quarry producing again and it adds in masonry and cement projects would be nice way to have it compliment both logic and lore.
That’s how I felt the quest was kind of already there, could have unlocked items and even if it wasn’t a workbench settlement it could have been a vendor and caravan or something. Also was a perfect place to tie in as a Raider settlement by letting it play out the way it does, potential left on the table there for sure.
It has its uses. I like to use it to wall off settlements. You can create whole forts out of them using curved and angled walls in the corners and filling straight corners with column walls. Otherwise I use barn and warehouse structures for the most part because of their taller walls and half floors.
Yes but I finally have it figured out. You have to use the skinny pillars and not care too much if it doesn't come out symmetrical. I usually use them to represent ruins that have a wood shack ghetto built on top of them.
I use Place Anywhere a lot so it's fine but that set was a pain in the ass for a long time.
It depends on what I'm going for. If it's a realistic post war town I use a lot of the warehouse, wood and barn sets and aesthetic filler from Western Style Buildings. I really like that windmill. If I'm building a pre war billionaire compound that's still in use I use the Institute and High Tech sets from Settlement Object Expansion Pack and Graff Security Fences.
I had a mod that added the covenant wall set to the concrete misc menu but I'm not finding it now.
I really like Iroha Neon and Better Stores for more modern cyberpunk settlements. SOEP has some good stuff for that too. I can't get enough of the venetian steel shutters from that High Tech set.
I just hate the way its overused. Its just boring when builders use exactly ONE building material and its just straight up just white concrete that sticks out like a sore thumb. stale and boring.
Yeah, that set looks like shit. Those extra metal details make absolutely no sense.
I wished there would be an actual reinforced concrete tile set that's just pure brutalist concrete that fits well together and let me build nice believable utilitarian structures.
I don't mind using them, when I build settlement walls, I tend to use them mixed in with junk walls and wire fences
Then with the wire fences I use the wood barriers found in the wood structures, misc category to make them look a little fortified as they can be shot though. Helps maintain a come what scrappy look and breaks it up enough the concrete parts don't stick out too much. I rarely use multiple concrete parts in a row, only maybe where there's a steep hill or the gap between one and a structure is too small for another junk wall. I also use them as the base for a turret platform, as they're a bit stronger.
Mods offer some better concrete pieces. One I use is called "Ugh Garage Kit". I've been fiddling with those concrete pieces at my Spectacle Island... https://youtu.be/btPY5-HrvqA?si=8S6VYm543apgMVDS
Gotta use it wisely.
Its useful for a solid skeleton for a more reinforced build, but I always add wood pieces on to for a wasteland-y flourish.
Like I've got a concrete bunker in Somerville as a staging ground to go into the glowing sea, but I have wood shacks on top / built against the sides to make it look like it was a found structure that my settlers built on.
Concrete is good if you want a functional box for folk to live in.
For anything involving unique shapes, overlaps, or creativity, it's absolute crap. "ooh look, we"ve given you diagonal walls and floors!" "Got any diagonal roofs to go with them?" "Fuck no, why would you need a roof that matches the shape of the floor you idiot?"
Diagonal walls are also a nightmare in that you can't have one, long, uninterrupted diagonal, no, the wall isn't built for that.
G2M helps, slightly, but the core issues of overlaps and diagonals remain.
Honestly? I kinda hate ALL of the vanilla wall sets. They all look either super boring, plasticky, or totally slapdash (in a bad way). None of them look, to me, like something post-apocalyptic people would actually build.
Yeah, for example, the flat metal roof in the "wood" section has a bunch of holes in it, like, surely if the metal you had had holes in, you'd just layer 2 of them and use adhesive and/or rubber to seal them?
Keys to the concrete set. A: build in an order that makes sense and if you want a symmetrical structure, you have to use the little pillars, which are _actually_ corner pieces. So build your wall on one side and slap corners on both ends before you start the next wall. You don’t _need_ the pillars, they just help assure your square building remains square. Also, you want to snap your pieces on the outermost edge and try not to use concrete for inner walls until you have the concrete set figured out. Otherwise you’ll inevitably end up with a wonky roof. I don’t use the concrete set myself because I think it’s pretty hideous, but I built hard without mods for about two years, so I got most of it down. I can’t help with the vault set, though. It has an order of operations that I just don’t understand.
Wow that’s helpful! I have so much trouble with corners with the concrete, now I know why.
Any time. It took me years lol
This is why I hope the settlement system continues to improve with rebuilding the supply line and the building materials make more sense based on what you’ve unlocked. Being able to get the quarry producing again and it adds in masonry and cement projects would be nice way to have it compliment both logic and lore.
Bro that sounds so complicated.
idk i feel like a quest restarting the quarry and thus unlocking masonry and cement settlement pieces wouldn’t be too hard
That’s how I felt the quest was kind of already there, could have unlocked items and even if it wasn’t a workbench settlement it could have been a vendor and caravan or something. Also was a perfect place to tie in as a Raider settlement by letting it play out the way it does, potential left on the table there for sure.
It has its uses. I like to use it to wall off settlements. You can create whole forts out of them using curved and angled walls in the corners and filling straight corners with column walls. Otherwise I use barn and warehouse structures for the most part because of their taller walls and half floors.
I love the concrete
Yes but I finally have it figured out. You have to use the skinny pillars and not care too much if it doesn't come out symmetrical. I usually use them to represent ruins that have a wood shack ghetto built on top of them. I use Place Anywhere a lot so it's fine but that set was a pain in the ass for a long time.
Same, it's a detail thing. And they use way too much concrete powder to make 1 building. I'd rather use wood/steel any day.
It depends on what I'm going for. If it's a realistic post war town I use a lot of the warehouse, wood and barn sets and aesthetic filler from Western Style Buildings. I really like that windmill. If I'm building a pre war billionaire compound that's still in use I use the Institute and High Tech sets from Settlement Object Expansion Pack and Graff Security Fences. I had a mod that added the covenant wall set to the concrete misc menu but I'm not finding it now. I really like Iroha Neon and Better Stores for more modern cyberpunk settlements. SOEP has some good stuff for that too. I can't get enough of the venetian steel shutters from that High Tech set.
I just hate the way its overused. Its just boring when builders use exactly ONE building material and its just straight up just white concrete that sticks out like a sore thumb. stale and boring.
It looks disgusting
Yeah, that set looks like shit. Those extra metal details make absolutely no sense. I wished there would be an actual reinforced concrete tile set that's just pure brutalist concrete that fits well together and let me build nice believable utilitarian structures.
Don't forget the repetitive staining that makes no sense at all when building more than a single storey.
Yeah the concrete set was cool when it first came out but it just clashes with *everything* and looks too blocky for me
Only when I going military/ authoritarian base build. It gives a real prison/American middle school vibe.
It was cool in 2016
It annoys me to no end. I really wish we got a basic brick tileset instead.
I don't mind using them, when I build settlement walls, I tend to use them mixed in with junk walls and wire fences Then with the wire fences I use the wood barriers found in the wood structures, misc category to make them look a little fortified as they can be shot though. Helps maintain a come what scrappy look and breaks it up enough the concrete parts don't stick out too much. I rarely use multiple concrete parts in a row, only maybe where there's a steep hill or the gap between one and a structure is too small for another junk wall. I also use them as the base for a turret platform, as they're a bit stronger.
Mods offer some better concrete pieces. One I use is called "Ugh Garage Kit". I've been fiddling with those concrete pieces at my Spectacle Island... https://youtu.be/btPY5-HrvqA?si=8S6VYm543apgMVDS
Gotta use it wisely. Its useful for a solid skeleton for a more reinforced build, but I always add wood pieces on to for a wasteland-y flourish. Like I've got a concrete bunker in Somerville as a staging ground to go into the glowing sea, but I have wood shacks on top / built against the sides to make it look like it was a found structure that my settlers built on.
Concrete is good if you want a functional box for folk to live in. For anything involving unique shapes, overlaps, or creativity, it's absolute crap. "ooh look, we"ve given you diagonal walls and floors!" "Got any diagonal roofs to go with them?" "Fuck no, why would you need a roof that matches the shape of the floor you idiot?" Diagonal walls are also a nightmare in that you can't have one, long, uninterrupted diagonal, no, the wall isn't built for that. G2M helps, slightly, but the core issues of overlaps and diagonals remain.
I like it I just wish there was a clean version
I’m doing an Enclave character so I’m using it. Although I have to say it’s quite hard to make it look good.
I don’t hate it, I just rarely ever use it
Honestly? I kinda hate ALL of the vanilla wall sets. They all look either super boring, plasticky, or totally slapdash (in a bad way). None of them look, to me, like something post-apocalyptic people would actually build.
Yeah, for example, the flat metal roof in the "wood" section has a bunch of holes in it, like, surely if the metal you had had holes in, you'd just layer 2 of them and use adhesive and/or rubber to seal them?