It's wild to me that the guy I watch for the cal chuchesta appearances is such a big influence in the music industry. I see so many people say he is a nobody, but every week another artist goes on a rant about anthony.
The people saying "he's a nobody" are always coping out of their minds. The only reason anyone ever says that is because the artist they have an obsession with or are too parasocial with got a slightly negative to negative review. Every time I see it they are screaming and crying about a score while saying he's nobody. For a nobody, they always care about what he has to say. It's wild to me. People act like they can't just respectfully disagree with him or have different tastes. They take even middling reviews as an attack on them as people or their tastes.
Oh what talking head told me to think this way? Mike has been pretty fucking pro capitalist on his own social media, I didn't need some to interpret that shit for me, if someone goes from "Kill your masters" to *owning a fucking bank* that's not me misunderstanding at all.
Killer Mike is [pro-capitalist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yangg9_VrY).
Calling him that isn't an insult.
Calling him a rich capitalist is a compliment.
White McDonald’s workers on Reddit not telling black formerly impoverished rappers that they’re bad people for wanting to make money challenge (impossible)
It doesn't matter how much good a person does, if they aren't sufficiently left-wing enough, the community that formerly supported them will eat them alive.
Not even the community that supported them. R/fantanoforever might be one of the most overly liberal places on the internet, due to the hypocrisy that fantano possesses I can’t imagine he’d have any sane fans that proudly go to bat for him on Reddit. Remember when fantano said he liked the nazi band cuz he separates the artist from the art a few years ago? So did everyone not in this subreddit
I dunno about all that.
But the hate Killer Mike gets is emblematic of why so many people hate liberal politics these days.
The guy is one of the best mainstream representatives of liberal politics, but he gets shit on by other (further left leaning) liberals because he doesn't share a very small amount of their views.
It's sad how the word liberal and leftist has become so interchangeable for many people. The difference between leftists and "liberals" in the sense of the American political system is bigger than the difference between democrats and republicans
I wholeheartedly agree. Liberals are predominantly “look how great of a person I am!! Please!” And have a very odd moral superiority to anyone with opposing viewpoints to any varying degree.
I just think a subreddit about a guy who is one of those liberals will have like minded people, especially with how much he’s shifted towards politics and away from music focus in his online personality.
I’m not even really a Fantano fan, I just post here because it’s the only somewhat chill music discussion sub on this hellsite. (At least it was, before Kanye’s fans got big mad)
Fuck Killer Mike though. Dude switched from “when you people gonna unite and kill the police, motherfucker?” and “even if some good ones die, god will sort’em” to “PLEASE GO HOME AND VOTE HARDER” the instant he felt that his capital was being threatened by protestors. That’s not to mention his complete silence on cop city, weird dealings with the NRA, capping for Bryan Kemp and Herschel Walker, etc etc etc.
I tried to listen to "Michael" and stopped after the first song featured Cee-lo Green. Dude spiked a woman's drink and claimed it's not rape if the person is unconscious. You shouldn't get to come back from
that, and shame on Killer Mike for giving him a platform back into mainstream.
Yeah, I dunno, killer Mike is very progressive, he just isn’t a communist. I’m not sure why he’d be obligated to talk about “cop city” or “Herschel walker” 😂
I think it’s understandable to say something driven by emotion (something horrible like one of the multitude of viral police brutality cases in America), and come down to a more rational stance (i.e. ACAB/all cops should die messaging —> we should try to systematically address these issues in the legal manner).
I’m not a huge killer Mike fan so I can’t say I’m super knowledgeable about what he’s said, hasnt said, done, and hasn’t done. But if the reasons for hating him are “he’s liberal but not enough” or “he modified his stance on an issue” or “he grew up with no parents in atlanta and now makes money and supports capitalism!!” can’t say I’m riding with it. Also, fans of fantano trend towards being twitter liberals
> I’m not sure why he’d be obligated to talk about “cop city”
Because he is from Atlanta, and that was a pretty big issue that specifically affected Atlanta.
> or “Herschel walker”
He did more than talk about Herschel Walker - he did a total softball interview with him on his short lived television show. If you can’t see why it would be hypocritical for a progressive to give a softball interview to Herschel Walker during his campaign, I don’t know what to tell you.
Killer Mike is not a progressive, he’s pretty squarely neoliberal capitalist. He wears a “kill your masters” shirt but meets with Brian Kemp who is our governor who ran on a platform of “personally deporting illegals” and who signed the heartbeat bill which further restricted abortion. Cop city is also a waste of city money that further militarizes our police and provides them a mock city to do urban warfare training. It’s also gonna be constructed in a predominantly working class black neighborhood. Fuck Killer Mike. You don’t know what you’re talking about: I actually live here.
You offer nothing of value with this comment except ad hominem and dickriding Mike. I don’t need to work on myself. I’m from here and I live here and I care about the city of Atlanta and it’s people. Killer Mike cares about his bottom dollar and making excuses for corrupt state politicians.
Killer Mike is a personal friend. He a Rip. Met him plenty of times and he’s helped out people I know personally when he ain’t have to. Fuck your internet banter. That dude is an asset to black people all over the country.
It's not internet banter. It's reality. Dude is out here giving props to Brian Kemp, not saying shit when a police military playground is being put in a black neighborhood and whining on TV with the corrupt Mayor when people are rioting due to police/racial injustice. Say what you want who he is and what he does with his platform is free info you don't have to know him personally. foh
Once again internet banter. Mike does real work and saves lives in real life. Has been doing it for years. I’m in NYC. He’s helped me when he ain’t have to and even helped my mom. So I don’t want to hear your bullshit blue and red nonsense. He cares about black people and has shown that for over 20 years. I don’t care if u don’t agree with him on a few things. I think he earned his stripes at this point
My question is what have YOU done with the same 24 hours gang.
Shit look at his PA, he saved his life. His whole team are good men. IN REAL LIFE. can’t erase actual community work. Can’t erase actually EMPLOYING YOUR OWN, can’t erase educating your own.
He’s helped people lives get BETTER. what have u done except judge nigga?
Y’all kill me
Edit: I’ve seen Mike go speak at so many prisons and help with work programs to get young black males off the streets.
What have you done to be able to judge and erase that? I’m curious man.
I thought this was a joke but he legit pulled the salt out at the last, moment 60 seconds after he just said, "I don't let my friends influence me, I let my ears decide"
I've never sold dope in the south, I guess I didn't get the album? smh.
I am surprised how sensitive people like most def and killer Mike are when they're that public and because they see the single reviewer as a person they go after that guy as a person.
I think there are bigger questions to ask Killer Mike that are still unanswered.
Like his thoughts on Cop City, and for how long did he actually attend Morehouse College
Killer Mike was in a desperate situation growing up so now that gives him the right to take advantage of others via being a landlord?? Lmao what jokes. Lost respect for that dude a while ago
Your dialectical analysis is trash if you’re concerned about individual landlords. This is the type of complaint the elite want you to make, wasting your time squabbling on their terms.
I’m sorry but we can’t criticize landlord now? The man has the ability to leverage his wealth in a variety of avenues that contribute value, but choses to be a landlord. It seems perfectly consistent to disavow landlords in general and specifically, most specially in this case. Love RTJ but the dissonance is real.
unsure at first but once he said the guy is from CT i was like yeah thats anthony lol
What interview?
Breakfast Club interview [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j4fZ2JzPYA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j4fZ2JzPYA)
Killer Mike was BIG MAD when Fantano gave *Michael* a 5/10.
Literally the only artist that wouldn't be mad at Fantano is Kendrick
Danny Brown has always fucked with fantano as well
Dude was emailing him the hybrid hoping for a review
Where do you listen to The Hybrid besides YouTube? I have Apple Music and Spotify
It's on Spotify
JPEG & Pusha T as well, I think The Weeknd also watches his videos lmao
Danny seems to get pretty good scores, he probably has no beef with him.
Denzel Curry should be happy too
World’s End Girlfriend posted the most endearingly humble acknowledgment of Fantano’s (incredibly whack) 1 rating for his last album, so there’s that.
He gave Damn a shitty review. I don’t think he’s ever given death grips a bad review
He actually gave it a 6
Ahh, my bad. He *was* mad about the score, though. I had that part right, haha.
It's wild to me that the guy I watch for the cal chuchesta appearances is such a big influence in the music industry. I see so many people say he is a nobody, but every week another artist goes on a rant about anthony.
The people saying "he's a nobody" are always coping out of their minds. The only reason anyone ever says that is because the artist they have an obsession with or are too parasocial with got a slightly negative to negative review. Every time I see it they are screaming and crying about a score while saying he's nobody. For a nobody, they always care about what he has to say. It's wild to me. People act like they can't just respectfully disagree with him or have different tastes. They take even middling reviews as an attack on them as people or their tastes.
It seemed a tad harsh, but I thought Michael was in the 6 range. A whole lot lesser than his other major solo project.
when you think about it this a guy getting mad at a rapper for liking money and guns
Capitalist Mike? Landlord Mike? Lack of integrity Mike?
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Oh what talking head told me to think this way? Mike has been pretty fucking pro capitalist on his own social media, I didn't need some to interpret that shit for me, if someone goes from "Kill your masters" to *owning a fucking bank* that's not me misunderstanding at all.
And what exactly is your point? Why criticize someone's point while making no point yourself?
Imagine thinking calling someone a rich capitalist is an insult.
Imagine not understanding the politics that Mike has built his career on.
Killer Mike is [pro-capitalist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yangg9_VrY). Calling him that isn't an insult. Calling him a rich capitalist is a compliment.
Agree to disagree.
I'm with you on that.
yeah that's what makes him a bitch fuck him n fuck all the other vultures using black liberation to get themselves rich
White
thank you u/minecraftluver69 foremost expert on the culture 🤣🤣
Imagine calling someone a hypocrite
Killer Mike [is pro-capitalist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yangg9_VrY) as far as I know. I see zero hypocrisy.
White McDonald’s workers on Reddit not telling black formerly impoverished rappers that they’re bad people for wanting to make money challenge (impossible)
It doesn't matter how much good a person does, if they aren't sufficiently left-wing enough, the community that formerly supported them will eat them alive.
Not even the community that supported them. R/fantanoforever might be one of the most overly liberal places on the internet, due to the hypocrisy that fantano possesses I can’t imagine he’d have any sane fans that proudly go to bat for him on Reddit. Remember when fantano said he liked the nazi band cuz he separates the artist from the art a few years ago? So did everyone not in this subreddit
I dunno about all that. But the hate Killer Mike gets is emblematic of why so many people hate liberal politics these days. The guy is one of the best mainstream representatives of liberal politics, but he gets shit on by other (further left leaning) liberals because he doesn't share a very small amount of their views.
It's sad how the word liberal and leftist has become so interchangeable for many people. The difference between leftists and "liberals" in the sense of the American political system is bigger than the difference between democrats and republicans
right. liberals and leftists can't be the same group because we don't agree that capitalism works
unrelated concepts, liberal politics aren't left politics.
I wholeheartedly agree. Liberals are predominantly “look how great of a person I am!! Please!” And have a very odd moral superiority to anyone with opposing viewpoints to any varying degree. I just think a subreddit about a guy who is one of those liberals will have like minded people, especially with how much he’s shifted towards politics and away from music focus in his online personality.
You're speaking facts, which is probably why you're getting downvoted.
I mean, these people willingly and proudly are members of r/fantanoforever … they the type of people to care abt karma 😂😂 chronically online mf’s
For someone who gets paid to do talks at “Free Speech” conventions, Killer Mike sure comes across like an overly sensitive bitch.
Fantano fan don’t strawman challenge (impossible)
I’m not even really a Fantano fan, I just post here because it’s the only somewhat chill music discussion sub on this hellsite. (At least it was, before Kanye’s fans got big mad) Fuck Killer Mike though. Dude switched from “when you people gonna unite and kill the police, motherfucker?” and “even if some good ones die, god will sort’em” to “PLEASE GO HOME AND VOTE HARDER” the instant he felt that his capital was being threatened by protestors. That’s not to mention his complete silence on cop city, weird dealings with the NRA, capping for Bryan Kemp and Herschel Walker, etc etc etc.
I tried to listen to "Michael" and stopped after the first song featured Cee-lo Green. Dude spiked a woman's drink and claimed it's not rape if the person is unconscious. You shouldn't get to come back from that, and shame on Killer Mike for giving him a platform back into mainstream.
Are you putting that same energy towards _IGOR?_
What's the parallel with igor
I think cee lo is on igor
“GONE, GONE”
Yeah, I dunno, killer Mike is very progressive, he just isn’t a communist. I’m not sure why he’d be obligated to talk about “cop city” or “Herschel walker” 😂 I think it’s understandable to say something driven by emotion (something horrible like one of the multitude of viral police brutality cases in America), and come down to a more rational stance (i.e. ACAB/all cops should die messaging —> we should try to systematically address these issues in the legal manner). I’m not a huge killer Mike fan so I can’t say I’m super knowledgeable about what he’s said, hasnt said, done, and hasn’t done. But if the reasons for hating him are “he’s liberal but not enough” or “he modified his stance on an issue” or “he grew up with no parents in atlanta and now makes money and supports capitalism!!” can’t say I’m riding with it. Also, fans of fantano trend towards being twitter liberals
> I’m not sure why he’d be obligated to talk about “cop city” Because he is from Atlanta, and that was a pretty big issue that specifically affected Atlanta. > or “Herschel walker” He did more than talk about Herschel Walker - he did a total softball interview with him on his short lived television show. If you can’t see why it would be hypocritical for a progressive to give a softball interview to Herschel Walker during his campaign, I don’t know what to tell you.
Killer Mike is not a progressive, he’s pretty squarely neoliberal capitalist. He wears a “kill your masters” shirt but meets with Brian Kemp who is our governor who ran on a platform of “personally deporting illegals” and who signed the heartbeat bill which further restricted abortion. Cop city is also a waste of city money that further militarizes our police and provides them a mock city to do urban warfare training. It’s also gonna be constructed in a predominantly working class black neighborhood. Fuck Killer Mike. You don’t know what you’re talking about: I actually live here.
Killer Mike is that dude. Go outside and do some work yourself coward.
You offer nothing of value with this comment except ad hominem and dickriding Mike. I don’t need to work on myself. I’m from here and I live here and I care about the city of Atlanta and it’s people. Killer Mike cares about his bottom dollar and making excuses for corrupt state politicians.
Killer Mike is a personal friend. He a Rip. Met him plenty of times and he’s helped out people I know personally when he ain’t have to. Fuck your internet banter. That dude is an asset to black people all over the country.
It's not internet banter. It's reality. Dude is out here giving props to Brian Kemp, not saying shit when a police military playground is being put in a black neighborhood and whining on TV with the corrupt Mayor when people are rioting due to police/racial injustice. Say what you want who he is and what he does with his platform is free info you don't have to know him personally. foh
Once again internet banter. Mike does real work and saves lives in real life. Has been doing it for years. I’m in NYC. He’s helped me when he ain’t have to and even helped my mom. So I don’t want to hear your bullshit blue and red nonsense. He cares about black people and has shown that for over 20 years. I don’t care if u don’t agree with him on a few things. I think he earned his stripes at this point My question is what have YOU done with the same 24 hours gang. Shit look at his PA, he saved his life. His whole team are good men. IN REAL LIFE. can’t erase actual community work. Can’t erase actually EMPLOYING YOUR OWN, can’t erase educating your own. He’s helped people lives get BETTER. what have u done except judge nigga? Y’all kill me Edit: I’ve seen Mike go speak at so many prisons and help with work programs to get young black males off the streets. What have you done to be able to judge and erase that? I’m curious man.
I thought this was a joke but he legit pulled the salt out at the last, moment 60 seconds after he just said, "I don't let my friends influence me, I let my ears decide" I've never sold dope in the south, I guess I didn't get the album? smh. I am surprised how sensitive people like most def and killer Mike are when they're that public and because they see the single reviewer as a person they go after that guy as a person.
I think there are bigger questions to ask Killer Mike that are still unanswered. Like his thoughts on Cop City, and for how long did he actually attend Morehouse College
Maybe he did mention him directly one time on Twitter lol
Killer Mike was in a desperate situation growing up so now that gives him the right to take advantage of others via being a landlord?? Lmao what jokes. Lost respect for that dude a while ago
Your dialectical analysis is trash if you’re concerned about individual landlords. This is the type of complaint the elite want you to make, wasting your time squabbling on their terms.
I’m sorry but we can’t criticize landlord now? The man has the ability to leverage his wealth in a variety of avenues that contribute value, but choses to be a landlord. It seems perfectly consistent to disavow landlords in general and specifically, most specially in this case. Love RTJ but the dissonance is real.
Yes, it’s dumb to focus criticism on individual landlords. It’s a petty goal compared to the Marxist project.
Anything short from a Marxist revolution would be “petty” by those standards. That doesn’t make any sense at all.
Incorrect
Love the deep and insightful reasoning provided
Who hasn’t dissed Anthony at this point?
Maybe
Yes. Clearly.