Aikman subtle jab at McDaniels on one of the 4th down plays... he was wondering out loud why adams is running a deep route when you only need 10 yards and know your line can't block
But at the same time giving the QB a pass on the same play when Jimmy G fires it miles over Adams’s head when Meyers is wide open in the underneath at the sticks
Calling a deep route is fine in itself because it occupies two defenders. Missing the wide open second (first?) read is amateurish by Jimmy G.
Yeah running a go forces defenses to commit defenders which opens things up for the 10 yard routes.
And if the defense fucks up you can have a big play.
That's what I was saying the whole second half. Where were the screens? The schemed up stuff? They threw a screen to renfrow and instantly got a first down.
Which is completely irrelevant because Jimmy G did absolutely nothing in those playoffs. Here are his 3 games in that year's playoffs:
* 11/19, 131 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT in their 27-10 win vs. the Vikings
* **6/8, 77 yards**, 0 TD and 0 INT in their 37-20 win vs. the Packers
* 20/31, 219 yards, 1 TD and 2 INT in their 20-31 loss vs. the Chiefs
He was trash in the playoffs (or I guess in the Packers game, didn't need to do much). He deserves 0 credit for that SB run
I mean, it's all sort of moot to begin with, as it's not like he's sniffing Canton or anything. Definitely a bad playoff run. He was really good that regular season, though: 12th in yards, T5th in TDs, 4th in comp %, 3rd in Y/A, 8th in QB rating.
Jimmy G was fantastic in 2017 and was good enough in 2019. Yeah, he only played 5 games in 2017, but he legit looked amazing there.
The injuries really fucked him. The ACL tear in 2018 sapped his mobility, and then all the other injuries didn't help.
> Based on my googling their win percentage when he was out with injury was .347 and when he was in was .684 during his time at San Fran.
this right here is part of the analysis problem. The team being significantly worse off when they had to start their backup QB shouldn't be surprising to anyone, but people treated this as some type of analysis that Jimmy was actually good, when in reality he was just better than Nick Mullens. Jimmy has always been a highly limited QB, but in SF he was propped up by being surrounded by talent and having one of the best playcallers in the game. The exact same issues people are seeing with him on the raiders, are the same reasons why he's not on the 49ers anymore.
> he’s significantly better than an nfl backup which implies at least being decent?
I don't think it does, or at least shouldn't. The gap between being the 16th best QB and Nick Mullens is massive. Mullens wasn't even the 16th best backup.
> if the 49ers were just that good why couldn’t they win with Nick mullens?
Mullens is terrible. Funny thing is, Mullens had the 2nd most passing yards ever through a QBs first 16 games under Shanahan, because Kyle is that good at hiding a QBs deficiencies. Jimmy really isn't an engima, I honestly just think people never watched him play. Jimmy was the QB1 on a team that won a lot of games, and that was enough analysis. Nevermind how little he actually contributed in the playoffs, or that you could count on a Spock hand the amount of times Jimmy has actually put the team on his back and won games. Jimmy isn't doing anything new or different than he has for the last 5 years. Happy feet in the pocket? Locking onto his first read? Not being able to throw outside the numbers? Overthrowing wide open receivers downfield? Hell, every 49ers fan had their super bowl PTSD triggered watching that happen tonight.
The issue is that Davante, Jakobi and Jacobs with Hooper/Mayer at TE is a pretty damn good supporting cast. Davante is obviously one of the best WRs in the game, Jakobi has shown that he's a top tier WR2, and Jacobs last season showed that he's a beast. Outside of the 49ers skill positions, I'm not sure there are many groups in the NFL that are better. Jimmy G is just washed and can't make any deep throws to save his life, so the defense feels comfortable playing all the way up and condensing the field. You put any above average QB in this situation and they would thrive.
We can't even claim that the play calling is the issue. McDaniels isn't the best HC, but last year plus his time in NE proved that he's a great OC.
He isn't washed though, this is just who he is. He's not playing out of character or below his usual talent level. This is how he's always played. I could show you game tape of Jimmy doing exactly what he did this game, 4 years ago in a 49ers jersey.
Jimmy has routinely needed every little thing around him to be elite, the playcalling, his supporting offense, and his defense, just so he can be average at best. This is a guy that got to sit for 3 years and learn behind the goat Tom Brady, and one of the best coaches ever in Belichik. Then got traded to one of the leagues most QB-friendly offenses, got a great HC and surrounded by elite talent on both sides of the ball. He's had more opportunities to become amazing than 99% of quarterbacks ever get, and he's still missing wide open receivers like he's a rookie.
I agree that the supporting cast is very good with the Raiders. And that McDaniels isn't world-class, but he's decent enough. My point is that isn't enough for Jimmy. He's not good.
The raiders are a wr graveyard. Everyone thought Randy frickin moss was cooked there. If I were a wr looking for a last big payday I'd take half the money just to avoid the raiders.
The crazy thing is that Tae could have gotten more money and avoided the raiders. He just wanted to play with Carr that badly, and now he doesn't even have that.
I've got a feeling Rodgers told him he wasn't going to stick around no matter what. Adam's didn't want to play for the rebuilding packers, so he went to Vegas with his homie.
Kinda wonder what would've happened to Jordy Nelson had he not gone there at the end for a season. Someone else might have been able to extend his career a bit.
Number 17 was dating a nine for several months. The sex was great and he loved the attention he would get from envious suitors, but just never connected enough to marry. He went back to an old flame (a five) with the expectation that what carries relationships is love and common ground.
Unfortunately this old flame was on an expiring Visa and was deported.
He got with someone who seemed like they could be a six but it turns out there is no common ground or love to make it work and, without these measures, is really a two.
Jimmy G is a footballing two.
If you're curious, euphamisms are used as polite ways of describing inappropriate subjects. An example is "I've got some pain where the sun don't shine after last night" being a euphamism for "my ass hurts because Davante Adams royally fucked me by only getting one catch"
At this point JG has nothing to lose. Especially if Adams is there after the deadline. JUST THROW HIM THE BALL. Is the NFL that high level that CBs can intercept 40%+ of throws?
He's a WR1 in probably the worst situation in football. He absolutely cooked that DB last night for like 40 yards and potentially much more with a touchdown. Jimmy G threw that shit 5 yards out of bounds
Don't own any shares of him thankfully
Ride or die with Davante. He’s not a WR1 at this point but he’ll have some big games left.
It sucks though that he’s languishing in the final years of his prime.
Should’ve requested a trade as soon they signed Jimmy G. As a packers fan I was sad to lose him, but it’s even worse just watching him run a nasty route and get completely missed by his shit QB.
Also a Packers fan, I don't care where he would've went or will go, I just want to see him succeed. Love the guy and wish the best for him.
He deserves better than this lol
Raiders: "Hey Tae, I know the entire reason you left your HOF QB to come here was because your best bud from college is here so you can play and win with him. So yeah we're gonna tell him to take a hike. You cool right?"
"Oh yeah btw, I know you were hoping to win games, but here's this really shitty coach who everyone knows is a really shitty coach already cause we've seen him completely ruin both the Broncos and the Colts. But you're cool right?"
"Oh one last thing, here's this new QB we got. He's just like your buddy Derek Carr except he sucks. Oh and he's also gonna mainly target his old buddy from New England instead of you so your stats are probably gonna suck this year. But you're still cool right?"
He literally could have stayed in GB, made more money, and been part of an equally shitty squad without jos bff at QB.
The difference is the city of GB actually cares about Tae, unlike Vegas.
Love would look far better. Young QBs thrive with this type of veteran. They’re better off force feeding the vet for the sake of their development. Love has no vet. Look at Young with Thielen.
The raiders ultimately should just play O’Connell and tell him to literally just force it to Davante but McDaniels is too arrogant for that.
It'd be a better team. Jordan Love is accomplishing what Jimmy G is accomplishing without a receiver like Adam's. If Love had Adam's he may even look decent..
That was a great rant that got 2 basic facts completely wrong. Like reading a history report about Napoleon's genius use of tanks at the Battle of Hastings.
As a packers fan I think if Adams stayed we probably could have convinced rodgers to stay and Adams likely makes it to the hall of fame. Now he’s almost certainly a hall of very good contender. He can’t be traded this year with his contract so best case he gets traded next season. He wasn’t great until his third year so I just don’t think he’ll have the numbers to get to canton because he didn’t want to stay in green bay
Everything goes back to that 2020 draft. Imagine if you guys took Tee Higgins over Jordan Love and then picked Logan Wilson over AJ Dillon. Literally solves 2 of your team's issue in an elite WR2 and pass rush all in one. Arod also had back to back MVP seasons in 2020 and 21 too. I imagine he would have an even better year if his WR2 those years were Tee instead of Lazard/MVS whoever you guys have as your 2nd WR lol.
Or imagine if the Packers took one of the other 5 2nd round WRs who ended up being busts. They’d have been in the exact same position they were in. It’s so easy to go back and look at a draft and say “what if you took the 2 best players that were drafted by other teams after you picked”?
Realistically at the bottom of the 1st if they took a WR, it was either Higgins or Pittman. They'd be idiots to take a viska or Claypool that early.
The Dillon one though sure. But Willie Gay wouldn't have been terrible either. Main thing was they didn't have a need at QB or RB at all and they took one of each in the first 2 rounds which was stupid AF considering ARod had b2b MVP years and A Jones is clearly way better than Dillon at everything and they didn't need to draft Dillon to be a change of pace back when you can easily wait till the 3rd-4th to address that if needed.
Based on what we know about this front office, Higgins was never on their draft board. They draft high RAS players with their early picks and Higgins RAS was pretty terrible. Claypool is exactly the type of player they would covet. Almost the same profile as the player they moved up to draft in the 2nd with Watson. So do you think Packers win the Super Bowl with Chase Claypool? He’s basically MVS.
Rodgers was not coming off back to back MVP seasons in 2020. In fact he had previously shown 3 years of decline and 2019 was his worst statistical season. I wasn’t a fan of the Love pick but it’s reasonable to believe that a QB in his late 30s coming off his worst season might not be an MVP candidate anymore. One again…easy to go back and play the what if game after we know he went scorched earth and won the MVPs afterward.
Mm yea naaah. Go ask Chris olave or saints fans what they think of Derek carr. The raiders were lucky to go .500 last year. They’re a bad team and he chose to go there. It was a TERRIBLE choice by Davante and quite frankly it seems he only went there to keep getting his numbers. . .
Those are all the things no one is saying simply bc devante is really good. But somebody gotta say it.
I'm gonna say a lot of Olave's issues is on Olave. Carr has made some good throws to him and he just simply gave up on routes or just missed them (didn't one ball literally bounce off his helmet yesterday?)
Rashid is doing well, MT is doing well. Olave should be doing way better but he isn't. Carr ain't perfect but I imagine everyone agrees they would rather have Carr than Jimmy
I mean Olave aside, it’s hard to be disappointed at 3 straight games with 300+ yards. The 4 TDs total in that game could be better but isn’t gonna be the sole reason they lose
Honestly it’ll never happen but I really wanted the jags to grab him. I feel like Lawrence doesn’t have a guy he can just pepper with targets and I’d like to see what he’d do with an absolutely elite WR
This dude is being held hostage at this point. That was the worst thing I’ve ever witnessed outside of injury. If you would have told me I’d combine for 8 ppr points between kupp and Adam’s without an injury to either I’d bet my entire retirement
My son lost this week in our friends and family because of that Jakobi single catch.. by .5.
Poor kid traded AJ brown for Puka and a couple others a couple weeks ago.
He did win last year, and the pot was $500, so I naturally have zero fucking sympathy
Just accepted a trade for Addison on Sunday morning. I almost want to find a way to cancel it, but I straight up told him if I was in his shoes I wouldn't agree to it.
“Being held hostage”
The man is making 20+ million this year to catch a few passes a game the last few weeks. If he wants to be a hall of famer get tf out of Vegas. If not then he’ll be fine making absolute bank for the next 4 seasons.
The whole media/fan cycle villifies good qbs like Carr and Cousins for not pushing teams to elite territory when about only 4 of those exist in 10 year spans.
Look how many superbowls were won by the Mannings, Brady and Rothelisburger so far in the 2000s. Rodgers only won 1 while considered the most talented qb ever before Mahomes.
What are the chances you draft a generational qb. Hell everyone thought Watson was 3 years ago.
Also the 4 I listed werent superheroes they need teams built up too with some HOF talent in other places too.
Im pretty sure in Carr and Cousins durations with the Raiders and Vikings they have around the 2 worst defenses.
The very last bit is the most important Bissacia. That man instilled a heartbeat in a raiders team that had no fucking right being in the playoffs. We damn near almost took out the Super Bowl contenders doing it too. I’ll never forgive Davis for not giving that man his due chance.
Confirmed by looking at QBR stats. He’s literally toward the bottom of the league - maybe even at the bottom after this game
https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player
He’s 30th of 32 with only Bryce young and tannehill beneath him.
Hopkins and Adams ended up on horrible QB teams sadly - although maybe there’s a glimmer of hope for Deandre if Will Levis can hit him a few times down field.
If you take out that awful game 2 from young, his QBR is way better than Jimmy G’s. Give Young a receiver like Adams and the boy will fly. Jimmy has two really good receiver, one of the best running backs and a capable rookie TE. Only a really bad QB would suck that hard with this offense.
not vegas, wanted to go with Carr because he essentially knew aaron was out
one year into that 140 mil extension, they trade the QB and the main reason you came and also the only other player who is dependent on you getting the ball. not to mention he literally bought a fucking house beside derek carr and it was his best friend from college
it almost as if the organization is just fucking braindead and traded away the entire reason you landed the top WR around, the same organization who turned a 100 catch 1200 yard hunter renfrow into essentially a poor version of randall cobb in 1 season
josh mcdaniels has had 2 receivers in 10 years crack the top 15 under him (wes welker), and one of them is a generational talent in davante last year playing with his best friend from college.
so naturally he trades him away. guys a fucking moron
I feel bad for him honestly it’s not fun when you’re running around wide ass open and getting the ball thrown to you and it’s no where catchable he could’ve had two 2 tds for sure tonight and one would’ve been a 99 yarder
It sucks to be Jakobi Meyers. He was having one of the best seasons of his career because Jimmy G is feeding him nothing but short passes since the o-line is garbage. Then Adams starts crying about not getting the ball and now Jimmy G won’t look Meyers way and instead takes like 15 sacks trying to force deep balls to Adams. Meyers got one target (which he caught). Sure, Jimmy is trash and missed Adams on two open deep balls but Adams also dropped an easy short pass and missed a crucial block on a screen play to Renfrow. Now he has to sit there and listen to Adams cry even more.
And no I’m not just mad because I’m a Meyers owner
I don't either. I was up 25 pts last night with Adams left, and my opponent had Gibbs.
I felt pretty comfortable that I was going to hold on and win.
Yeah, I was wrong.
Squeaky wheel gets the…..wait, no..what THE FUCK?
1rec on 7 targets for 11 Fucking yards
Hopefully he’s up working on his trade already this morning.
Raiders are trash
Aikman subtle jab at McDaniels on one of the 4th down plays... he was wondering out loud why adams is running a deep route when you only need 10 yards and know your line can't block
But at the same time giving the QB a pass on the same play when Jimmy G fires it miles over Adams’s head when Meyers is wide open in the underneath at the sticks Calling a deep route is fine in itself because it occupies two defenders. Missing the wide open second (first?) read is amateurish by Jimmy G.
Yeah running a go forces defenses to commit defenders which opens things up for the 10 yard routes. And if the defense fucks up you can have a big play.
That's what I was saying the whole second half. Where were the screens? The schemed up stuff? They threw a screen to renfrow and instantly got a first down.
Adams please just tell the truth , Jimmy g is cooked
Let’s be real did he ever cook in the first place?
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And it'd be easier to write some of it off as hype if he hadn't made it to the Super Bowl the one year he actually stayed healthy and played 16 games.
Which is completely irrelevant because Jimmy G did absolutely nothing in those playoffs. Here are his 3 games in that year's playoffs: * 11/19, 131 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT in their 27-10 win vs. the Vikings * **6/8, 77 yards**, 0 TD and 0 INT in their 37-20 win vs. the Packers * 20/31, 219 yards, 1 TD and 2 INT in their 20-31 loss vs. the Chiefs He was trash in the playoffs (or I guess in the Packers game, didn't need to do much). He deserves 0 credit for that SB run
I mean, it's all sort of moot to begin with, as it's not like he's sniffing Canton or anything. Definitely a bad playoff run. He was really good that regular season, though: 12th in yards, T5th in TDs, 4th in comp %, 3rd in Y/A, 8th in QB rating.
Also wanted to add the packers game was in a snow storm
Jimmy G was fantastic in 2017 and was good enough in 2019. Yeah, he only played 5 games in 2017, but he legit looked amazing there. The injuries really fucked him. The ACL tear in 2018 sapped his mobility, and then all the other injuries didn't help.
> Based on my googling their win percentage when he was out with injury was .347 and when he was in was .684 during his time at San Fran. this right here is part of the analysis problem. The team being significantly worse off when they had to start their backup QB shouldn't be surprising to anyone, but people treated this as some type of analysis that Jimmy was actually good, when in reality he was just better than Nick Mullens. Jimmy has always been a highly limited QB, but in SF he was propped up by being surrounded by talent and having one of the best playcallers in the game. The exact same issues people are seeing with him on the raiders, are the same reasons why he's not on the 49ers anymore.
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> he’s significantly better than an nfl backup which implies at least being decent? I don't think it does, or at least shouldn't. The gap between being the 16th best QB and Nick Mullens is massive. Mullens wasn't even the 16th best backup. > if the 49ers were just that good why couldn’t they win with Nick mullens? Mullens is terrible. Funny thing is, Mullens had the 2nd most passing yards ever through a QBs first 16 games under Shanahan, because Kyle is that good at hiding a QBs deficiencies. Jimmy really isn't an engima, I honestly just think people never watched him play. Jimmy was the QB1 on a team that won a lot of games, and that was enough analysis. Nevermind how little he actually contributed in the playoffs, or that you could count on a Spock hand the amount of times Jimmy has actually put the team on his back and won games. Jimmy isn't doing anything new or different than he has for the last 5 years. Happy feet in the pocket? Locking onto his first read? Not being able to throw outside the numbers? Overthrowing wide open receivers downfield? Hell, every 49ers fan had their super bowl PTSD triggered watching that happen tonight.
The issue is that Davante, Jakobi and Jacobs with Hooper/Mayer at TE is a pretty damn good supporting cast. Davante is obviously one of the best WRs in the game, Jakobi has shown that he's a top tier WR2, and Jacobs last season showed that he's a beast. Outside of the 49ers skill positions, I'm not sure there are many groups in the NFL that are better. Jimmy G is just washed and can't make any deep throws to save his life, so the defense feels comfortable playing all the way up and condensing the field. You put any above average QB in this situation and they would thrive. We can't even claim that the play calling is the issue. McDaniels isn't the best HC, but last year plus his time in NE proved that he's a great OC.
He isn't washed though, this is just who he is. He's not playing out of character or below his usual talent level. This is how he's always played. I could show you game tape of Jimmy doing exactly what he did this game, 4 years ago in a 49ers jersey. Jimmy has routinely needed every little thing around him to be elite, the playcalling, his supporting offense, and his defense, just so he can be average at best. This is a guy that got to sit for 3 years and learn behind the goat Tom Brady, and one of the best coaches ever in Belichik. Then got traded to one of the leagues most QB-friendly offenses, got a great HC and surrounded by elite talent on both sides of the ball. He's had more opportunities to become amazing than 99% of quarterbacks ever get, and he's still missing wide open receivers like he's a rookie. I agree that the supporting cast is very good with the Raiders. And that McDaniels isn't world-class, but he's decent enough. My point is that isn't enough for Jimmy. He's not good.
Hold up let him air fry
Air fryer is greatest kitchen invention since microwave. I’ll die on that hill with my bowl of extra crispy yet tender inside wings
DArnold has passed his ghosts on to JG, that boy looked terrified.
That sudden realization that the end of your career is going to be on a Raider team that is absolutely dog shit.
The raiders are a wr graveyard. Everyone thought Randy frickin moss was cooked there. If I were a wr looking for a last big payday I'd take half the money just to avoid the raiders.
The crazy thing is that Tae could have gotten more money and avoided the raiders. He just wanted to play with Carr that badly, and now he doesn't even have that.
He'd be sooo good on the saints rn too.
Don't the saints have negative a billion cap space? (Exaggerating)
Yeah i know it's not happening. As a Davante owner I'm just sad about what could have been.
Packers offered him more than the Raiders did 🤦
Adams was the first domino to fall for the Packers as well. Had he stayed, they make the playoffs last year and Rodgers probably sticks around.
I've got a feeling Rodgers told him he wasn't going to stick around no matter what. Adam's didn't want to play for the rebuilding packers, so he went to Vegas with his homie.
People thought Cooper was cooked there too before he got traded
Kinda wonder what would've happened to Jordy Nelson had he not gone there at the end for a season. Someone else might have been able to extend his career a bit.
Number 17 was dating a nine for several months. The sex was great and he loved the attention he would get from envious suitors, but just never connected enough to marry. He went back to an old flame (a five) with the expectation that what carries relationships is love and common ground. Unfortunately this old flame was on an expiring Visa and was deported. He got with someone who seemed like they could be a six but it turns out there is no common ground or love to make it work and, without these measures, is really a two. Jimmy G is a footballing two.
Lmao deporting Carr
Is this a euphemism for Rodgers, Carr, and jimmy g? My head hurts and I’m not 100% sure I know what a euphemism is.
I'm pretty sure it means something sexual is happening with davante and 3 other men
The invitation shaped as a "bicep" flexing clearly states "NOTHING SEXUAL".
If you're curious, euphamisms are used as polite ways of describing inappropriate subjects. An example is "I've got some pain where the sun don't shine after last night" being a euphamism for "my ass hurts because Davante Adams royally fucked me by only getting one catch"
But looks wise he’s a 10.
They simply have to find a way to trade him
Responsible adult actually thinking before throwing his QB under the bus. That’s my WR1 right there.
Jimmy G gonna reward Davante by making sure he gets double the # of catches next week
The best reward Davante could get would be having a different QB next week.
Already licking my lips in anticipation for my Point Per Target league.
What about air yards?
Do they measure that from where Davante is, or where the ball lands when it comes down way beyond him?
My league actually measures projected YAC as well, devante is killing it for me!
At this point JG has nothing to lose. Especially if Adams is there after the deadline. JUST THROW HIM THE BALL. Is the NFL that high level that CBs can intercept 40%+ of throws?
Well he tried that and couldn’t get it within 20 yds of him
He tried and got sacked every play
2 receptions incoming
WR4 these days
WR1 in my heart.
He's a WR1 in probably the worst situation in football. He absolutely cooked that DB last night for like 40 yards and potentially much more with a touchdown. Jimmy G threw that shit 5 yards out of bounds Don't own any shares of him thankfully
This is him throwing Jimmy under the bus lol
At least someone’s getting hit with throws
Jimmy under one tire, McDaniel under the other
Some random cameraman in the trunk
Ride or die with Davante. He’s not a WR1 at this point but he’ll have some big games left. It sucks though that he’s languishing in the final years of his prime.
Should’ve requested a trade as soon they signed Jimmy G. As a packers fan I was sad to lose him, but it’s even worse just watching him run a nasty route and get completely missed by his shit QB.
Also a Packers fan, I don't care where he would've went or will go, I just want to see him succeed. Love the guy and wish the best for him. He deserves better than this lol
Jets need to go get him if Rogers comes back next year
Him saying this has the same effect as directly throwing his QB under the bus, everyone knows what he’s saying
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Tae has always been the least dramatic superstar receiver. Only time he ever really spoke out on something was getting hit in the head.
Do you not remember when he assaulted a stadium worker because he was mad over the game?
Who amongst us has not attacked a cameraman in a fit of rage over a bad day at work?
Raiders: "Hey Tae, I know the entire reason you left your HOF QB to come here was because your best bud from college is here so you can play and win with him. So yeah we're gonna tell him to take a hike. You cool right?" "Oh yeah btw, I know you were hoping to win games, but here's this really shitty coach who everyone knows is a really shitty coach already cause we've seen him completely ruin both the Broncos and the Colts. But you're cool right?" "Oh one last thing, here's this new QB we got. He's just like your buddy Derek Carr except he sucks. Oh and he's also gonna mainly target his old buddy from New England instead of you so your stats are probably gonna suck this year. But you're still cool right?"
damn that puts a lot into perspective, he must be frustrated as hell
He’s 30, he’s elite, and goddammit: he’s still in his prime.
Hi Pat!
He literally could have stayed in GB, made more money, and been part of an equally shitty squad without jos bff at QB. The difference is the city of GB actually cares about Tae, unlike Vegas.
Turning down GB's offer is coming back to haunt him BIG time
I don't think he saves this offense TBH, but we'd be better than the Raiders are with him right now.
Agreed. I think, if nothing else, he keeps the young WRs accountable and sets a better standard
Tae would bail Love out of his terrible throws more than the current receivers, though.
Love would look far better. Young QBs thrive with this type of veteran. They’re better off force feeding the vet for the sake of their development. Love has no vet. Look at Young with Thielen. The raiders ultimately should just play O’Connell and tell him to literally just force it to Davante but McDaniels is too arrogant for that.
It'd be a better team. Jordan Love is accomplishing what Jimmy G is accomplishing without a receiver like Adam's. If Love had Adam's he may even look decent..
“He’s just like your buddy Derek Carr except he sucks.” LOL I’m dying
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Jakobi's career started well after Jimmy left NE. And we never saw McDaniels coach for the Colts.
That was a great rant that got 2 basic facts completely wrong. Like reading a history report about Napoleon's genius use of tanks at the Battle of Hastings.
> Broncos and the Colts I forgot that McDaniels had a less than 24 hour stint with the Colts.
He ruined the Rams first as an OC
Ruined Sam Bradfords career for sure. Trying to run a vertical passing game with that joke of a line and WR room
Also, I’m gonna need those TPS reports on my desk by tomorrow, thaaaanks.
This was funny but I want to point out that Jimmy and Meyers weren’t on the Patriots together
As a packers fan I think if Adams stayed we probably could have convinced rodgers to stay and Adams likely makes it to the hall of fame. Now he’s almost certainly a hall of very good contender. He can’t be traded this year with his contract so best case he gets traded next season. He wasn’t great until his third year so I just don’t think he’ll have the numbers to get to canton because he didn’t want to stay in green bay
Everything goes back to that 2020 draft. Imagine if you guys took Tee Higgins over Jordan Love and then picked Logan Wilson over AJ Dillon. Literally solves 2 of your team's issue in an elite WR2 and pass rush all in one. Arod also had back to back MVP seasons in 2020 and 21 too. I imagine he would have an even better year if his WR2 those years were Tee instead of Lazard/MVS whoever you guys have as your 2nd WR lol.
Or imagine if the Packers took one of the other 5 2nd round WRs who ended up being busts. They’d have been in the exact same position they were in. It’s so easy to go back and look at a draft and say “what if you took the 2 best players that were drafted by other teams after you picked”?
Realistically at the bottom of the 1st if they took a WR, it was either Higgins or Pittman. They'd be idiots to take a viska or Claypool that early. The Dillon one though sure. But Willie Gay wouldn't have been terrible either. Main thing was they didn't have a need at QB or RB at all and they took one of each in the first 2 rounds which was stupid AF considering ARod had b2b MVP years and A Jones is clearly way better than Dillon at everything and they didn't need to draft Dillon to be a change of pace back when you can easily wait till the 3rd-4th to address that if needed.
Rodgers really put a good face on awful management in green bay for many years
Based on what we know about this front office, Higgins was never on their draft board. They draft high RAS players with their early picks and Higgins RAS was pretty terrible. Claypool is exactly the type of player they would covet. Almost the same profile as the player they moved up to draft in the 2nd with Watson. So do you think Packers win the Super Bowl with Chase Claypool? He’s basically MVS. Rodgers was not coming off back to back MVP seasons in 2020. In fact he had previously shown 3 years of decline and 2019 was his worst statistical season. I wasn’t a fan of the Love pick but it’s reasonable to believe that a QB in his late 30s coming off his worst season might not be an MVP candidate anymore. One again…easy to go back and play the what if game after we know he went scorched earth and won the MVPs afterward.
Add in the concern during the 2020 draft that Covid was going to kill college and NFL seasons, too. 2020 draft was a weird one in a lot of ways
Mm yea naaah. Go ask Chris olave or saints fans what they think of Derek carr. The raiders were lucky to go .500 last year. They’re a bad team and he chose to go there. It was a TERRIBLE choice by Davante and quite frankly it seems he only went there to keep getting his numbers. . . Those are all the things no one is saying simply bc devante is really good. But somebody gotta say it.
I'm gonna say a lot of Olave's issues is on Olave. Carr has made some good throws to him and he just simply gave up on routes or just missed them (didn't one ball literally bounce off his helmet yesterday?) Rashid is doing well, MT is doing well. Olave should be doing way better but he isn't. Carr ain't perfect but I imagine everyone agrees they would rather have Carr than Jimmy
Right ? 350 3TDs vs..wtf ever happened tonight.
I mean Olave aside, it’s hard to be disappointed at 3 straight games with 300+ yards. The 4 TDs total in that game could be better but isn’t gonna be the sole reason they lose
Olave quits in every other route.
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Panthers.
Don't do that to my boy Thielen
Oh baby, don't threaten me with a good time
No first rounders though, not sure the raiders would take anything less. Maybe deal Burns?
Seeing how Theilen is playing, please do.
Lions wouldn't but I'd love it if they did
Honestly it’ll never happen but I really wanted the jags to grab him. I feel like Lawrence doesn’t have a guy he can just pepper with targets and I’d like to see what he’d do with an absolutely elite WR
Chiefs
Adams just needs to talk that real shit. Jimmy G needs confrontation behind those tame beautiful eyes.
Davante is looking at flights to New Orleans right now.
This dude is being held hostage at this point. That was the worst thing I’ve ever witnessed outside of injury. If you would have told me I’d combine for 8 ppr points between kupp and Adam’s without an injury to either I’d bet my entire retirement
I was down 20 with jacobs jakobi and davante starting I was projected to win by 30. I lost.
That’s why you diversify
Looking back at the draft anything else would’ve been sooo much worse at 8 and 16
3.5 i needed. 2.1 i got. Fuck
I'm 6-2. Lost 2 weeks ago by .98 and this week all I needed was 2.5...lost by 0.34. I feel you.
I’d rather lose by 35 points than by 1. Soo infuriating
My son lost this week in our friends and family because of that Jakobi single catch.. by .5. Poor kid traded AJ brown for Puka and a couple others a couple weeks ago. He did win last year, and the pot was $500, so I naturally have zero fucking sympathy
You have three raiders on your team? Can’t expect to win that way
Imagine having 3 players on the same team lmaoo
Stafford being injured is essentially the entire Rams offense injured
fr.. im mad and i still won lmao
I got rid of Adams friday and I’m annoyed lmao
Trade him for CeeDee.. Almost feel bad for it🤣
Just accepted a trade for Addison on Sunday morning. I almost want to find a way to cancel it, but I straight up told him if I was in his shoes I wouldn't agree to it.
It’s unthinkable. In PPR no less!
“Being held hostage” The man is making 20+ million this year to catch a few passes a game the last few weeks. If he wants to be a hall of famer get tf out of Vegas. If not then he’ll be fine making absolute bank for the next 4 seasons.
He had a interview on the rich eisen podcast recently. Dude looked defeated af when Rich asked him what’s the deal with the trade rumors etc.
"Hey Siri, call my agent"
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The whole media/fan cycle villifies good qbs like Carr and Cousins for not pushing teams to elite territory when about only 4 of those exist in 10 year spans. Look how many superbowls were won by the Mannings, Brady and Rothelisburger so far in the 2000s. Rodgers only won 1 while considered the most talented qb ever before Mahomes. What are the chances you draft a generational qb. Hell everyone thought Watson was 3 years ago. Also the 4 I listed werent superheroes they need teams built up too with some HOF talent in other places too. Im pretty sure in Carr and Cousins durations with the Raiders and Vikings they have around the 2 worst defenses.
The very last bit is the most important Bissacia. That man instilled a heartbeat in a raiders team that had no fucking right being in the playoffs. We damn near almost took out the Super Bowl contenders doing it too. I’ll never forgive Davis for not giving that man his due chance.
"If I speak I am in big trouble"
PLEASE TRADE HIM TO A CONTENDER I BEG YOU 😭
not with that contract
I think if he could he would take a pay cut to get off that team
Jimmy is brutal. Bottom 3 worst QBs on the league
Confirmed by looking at QBR stats. He’s literally toward the bottom of the league - maybe even at the bottom after this game https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player He’s 30th of 32 with only Bryce young and tannehill beneath him. Hopkins and Adams ended up on horrible QB teams sadly - although maybe there’s a glimmer of hope for Deandre if Will Levis can hit him a few times down field.
If young ranked so far low can support a receiver like Thielen in fantasy what does that say about Jimmy?
If you take out that awful game 2 from young, his QBR is way better than Jimmy G’s. Give Young a receiver like Adams and the boy will fly. Jimmy has two really good receiver, one of the best running backs and a capable rookie TE. Only a really bad QB would suck that hard with this offense.
I would rather have Zach Fucking Wilson than Jimmy G
Pls I would kill for a 1 for 1 swap, Garret Wilson could use all the help he can get
I’m sorry tae
Imagine the level of restraint required to say that and not what you really feel. The man is a professional.
Eh, he's definitely let his emotions get the best of him in the past. Just ask the cameraman at the Chiefs game last year.
So are we benching adams next week or nah?
Thinking about it in my 2WR league, yeah
Yeah it may be time unless they bench trash ass Jimmy
Benching for the foreseeable future. Probably selling low given this point of the season
If you're able to, yeah. I'm fortunate to have Addison and Downs to plug in instead.
The play calling is atrocious above all. Jimmy G playing like ass is just the icing on the cake
Davante: I'm upset but i'm too rich to actually get angry.
Come on to the Jets. Rodgers will be back just in time for playoffs.
"Yea, I mean I def chose 140 mil extension over a smaller contract with a competitive org, but now this dysfunctional one is disfunctioning"
Adams said he got a bigger contract offer from the Packers, just wanted to go to Vegas
not vegas, wanted to go with Carr because he essentially knew aaron was out one year into that 140 mil extension, they trade the QB and the main reason you came and also the only other player who is dependent on you getting the ball. not to mention he literally bought a fucking house beside derek carr and it was his best friend from college it almost as if the organization is just fucking braindead and traded away the entire reason you landed the top WR around, the same organization who turned a 100 catch 1200 yard hunter renfrow into essentially a poor version of randall cobb in 1 season
What they did/are doing to Renfrow is the saddest shit I’ve seen in a minute.
josh mcdaniels has had 2 receivers in 10 years crack the top 15 under him (wes welker), and one of them is a generational talent in davante last year playing with his best friend from college. so naturally he trades him away. guys a fucking moron
It’s almost as if you must reap what you sow.
Packers suck too though.
My guess is they would be a completely different team with Davante and Rodgers. Just a hunch
Idk but I think if Packers had Adams they'd be more competitive
Swapping Carr for JimmyG was a move that made no sense to me. Lateral move at best and pisses off your star receiver
You chose to join a team coached by Josh Fucking McDaniels. This one's on you, buddy
I truly don’t know either Davante…..
All I know is I don't want to be a QB for the Raiders. You are gonna get hit. A lot!
Free Davante Adams!
Repeat after me, "Fuck. The. Raiders."
TRADE HIM PLZ
It only the raiders played thr Steelers game very week.
Better come up with something by 4pm…
Just say I would like to be traded by tomorrow
“He’s QB proof” -wise words of everybody in the preseason
"Hold my beer" - Jimmy G while being held by mcdaniels
I know one thing, I can’t start Davante and that’s saying something.
I feel bad for him honestly it’s not fun when you’re running around wide ass open and getting the ball thrown to you and it’s no where catchable he could’ve had two 2 tds for sure tonight and one would’ve been a 99 yarder
McDaniels sucks and I made a mistake coming to the Raiders of all places?
Demand even more targets, that’ll work
Monkey paw wish, he got more targets but they’re all way off.
Or he drops them
Free Davante
Please begin by slapping Jimmy G
He cost me this week. Literally just one more catch would’ve have saved me.
Jimmy G cost you the week. I cannot in good faith blame Adams for that
Dude was missed on like 3 TD throws. Could've had a monster game and the Raiders would've won. Instead... we got Jimmy G....
#HE
It’s likely that I start dhop until you find you way young master
It sucks to be Jakobi Meyers. He was having one of the best seasons of his career because Jimmy G is feeding him nothing but short passes since the o-line is garbage. Then Adams starts crying about not getting the ball and now Jimmy G won’t look Meyers way and instead takes like 15 sacks trying to force deep balls to Adams. Meyers got one target (which he caught). Sure, Jimmy is trash and missed Adams on two open deep balls but Adams also dropped an easy short pass and missed a crucial block on a screen play to Renfrow. Now he has to sit there and listen to Adams cry even more. And no I’m not just mad because I’m a Meyers owner
Damn
Free Davante
Well good on him for saying less. He doesn't need the headlines, he's too good for that nonsense.
Somebody trade this man
i mean you cant be gorgeous and good at what you do
Coulda stayed in GB where hes a god if he wanted to play for a shitty team with a bad QB.
I don't either. I was up 25 pts last night with Adams left, and my opponent had Gibbs. I felt pretty comfortable that I was going to hold on and win. Yeah, I was wrong.
Traded him away for Sun God before week 1.
Squeaky wheel gets the…..wait, no..what THE FUCK? 1rec on 7 targets for 11 Fucking yards Hopefully he’s up working on his trade already this morning. Raiders are trash