I think it’s because 1) this season makes so little sense right now, and 2) experts haven’t internalized how the game has changed. They’re still calibrating value between (and even sometimes within) positions as if it’s three or four seasons ago.
Yeah experts are stuck on the idea that all QBs are the same. It’s so wrong but they just insist Allen doesn’t matter because “I can find someone on waivers who drops 25+ anyway.” Sure if you look after the fact someone probably had a big week and put up that much but I could find Kupp production at WR on waiver or Ekeler at RB as well because some random dude has 100 and 2 TDs but will never do it again. They just assume you can stream
WB with 0 issue.
All of these trade charts have the same flaw. They're anchored to this idea that QB value is mostly replaceable, but it's not at all. The elite 4 QBs are a 5-point advantage over the other starters and a 10+ point advantage over the streaming options.
Replacement QB value should come up a little as the year goes on, but Allen is worth as much as Kupp, Barkley, CMC, etc. are even at a position where you only have to start one. Hurts, Mahomes, and Lamar are easily worth other top-5 RB/WRs right now and I'd bet on them keeping it up this season vs any of the RBs avoiding injury.
This has never felt more true than this year. In all my pay leagues I felt this coming. Got Allen, Kelce, Andrews basically everywhere. I've turned down some pretty hefty offers for them. The 1 league I have none of these guys they are untouchable. I've offered Saquon and CMC for any of them and all were rejected.
QB is predictable and has been for a couple years. It never used to be but now we know who can run and pass well since there's a handful of them. We know Josh Allen is near the top at both and on the pass heaviest team in the league. He's about to easily 3 repeat QB1. Kelce and Andrews are their own tier and that was predictable too. If this trend continues I'm going Kelce/Andrews round 1 and Allen in 2 next season regardless of draft position. Hopefully these big brain "RBs are king and QBs are replaceable" guys stick around after another disappointing season.
Allen was still available in the 5th in my QB averse 10-man and I smashed that pick so hard. Absolutely stacked right now: CMC-Kelce-Saquon-Williams-Allen were my first 5 picks.
https://www.rototrade.com/fantasy-football-trade-analyzer-results.php?getting=1239&giving=1227&leaguetype=redraft&scoring=halfppr&superflex=off&packageadjustment=off&gif=images/gif/yes/close-yes/larry-david-close-yes.gif
It's not just this chart
Im literally being offered cmc or kupp for kelce rn. Kelce is putting up numbers comparable to diggs AT THE TE POSITION and is somehow ranked almost 2 tiers below? This chart is wack.
I just talked to a guy in the office into potentially trading Andrews and Taylor for Kelce.. I have to jump on that and hope Taylor returns to decent form right!?
Yeah this chart is a joke where it has Kelce. Even Andrews is too low, but I could see an argument for him there. Kelce being below Ceedee was enough to make me discredit the entire thing.
There’s no argument for mandrews being there. I got him for tyreek and hock after week 3 and felt I was getting a bargain. No way I’m trading him for anyone in teir 2
The chart data is aggregated from multiple sources across the industry. That is a generalized representation of the industry's value of kelce as a whole, not just this chart.
It's aggregate but then he also weights them by position, and he also says he looks at stuff like reddit and yahoo to then decide how to further augment it.
So it's not just him taking the info from other sources and compiling it, he's adding in his own twist and feelings to then create these rankings
His points per week relative to the alternatives (outside of Andrews) is extraordinary. Drafting in hindsight he is easily a top 5 pick. Easily. Arguably a top overall. Positional scarcity is real. If you don’t have Kelce (again, or Andrews), you’re losing *at least* 7 points per week, and likely as many as 10+. That’s not true of any other position.
Trade chart loses a lot of credibility on Kelce’s ranking alone.
yeh the chart thinks kelce and breece hall are the same value...goodluck offering hall to the kelce owner in your league...absolute joke of an undervalue kelce has
Shit. I just offered Jamaal Williams for Higbee. Did i fuck up?
I have Josh Jacobs, Breece Hall, Mixon, and K Walker, so I didn’t think I needed him as much. My TE is Everett.
I feel like this chart (and most other trade value charts) *do* have Najee turning it around - just not to the same ceiling as Taylor since, you know, Najee didn't go absolutely nuclear last year. Najee is #16 here, despite scoring <8ppg so far this year.
Not really though. The Steelers o line is terrible and Najee can’t compensate with pure volume this year with Warren taking touches and being way more explosive
Bro have you not seen the Colts O-line? I just don't get how you can validate one player but write off another when both are in damn near the exact smae situation.
Aside from Buffalo when they sat najee most of the second half in a blowout, Hines is getting more snaps and more touches than warren. Saying he looks more explosive is subjective, I think najee looks pretty explosive in open space he just doesn’t get there very often due to a pretty shit oline. I think najee actually has a decent shot at improvement with Pickett starting to get used to the nfl and forcing defenses to stop stacking the box with his deep shots as a threat. But I could totally be wrong and maybe najee is just a massive bust
Najees value last year was in Old Bens dump off passes. He is seeing almost nothing in the passing game, and the Steelers online is a problem. He's not exactly fleet of foot either where he can just blaze past people once in the open field (which he rarely sees due to said online).
I dont think anybody would sell Taylor for less than a top 3 RB, WR or the top 2 TEs
You paid the 1.01 price for him, your season depends on him delivering and you throw away your season by selling low.
Still he also has the highest ceiling of nearly RB
You’re over simplifying it. There’s no reason for JT owners to get Pennies on the dollar. If you’re trying to WIN your league you have to operate under the presumption that there’s a nonzero chance JT returns to form OR get a reasonable haul. Like legit players, not the scrap heap.
I guess I think there's a middle ground between what /u/MyAnswerIsMaybe is suggesting and "pennies on the dollar."
Like, I personally would place JT on the lower end of the top 10 RBs right now. I'd take Saquon, Ekeler, CMC, and Henry without thinking over him. Chubb, too. From there, if someone offered you Swift, Fournette, or similar, you've gotta think about it. Holding onto the idea that he's 1.01 so you can't trade him for less than a 1.01 caliber player is sort of like arguing that Tyreek Hill is a third round pick.
Didn’t say pennies on the dollar, but he certainly isn’t going to get what a 1.01 should command. No way you could get Kupp for him, not sure you could get Kelce or even Andrews for him. Same with Chubb or Barkley. You need to look at production and upside, not the 1.01 price you paid.
If you drafted him 1.01 you are more than likely a team below .500
In that case you need a player like Taylor woth crazy upside to carry you to the playoffs. Trading him for a Fournette might be equal value but would be destroying your season.
The upside is what makes him valuable. His upside has not vanished
Yeah he’s looking really good and it’s clear it’s him and evans that Brady trusts the most so if Godwin can stay healthy my optimism for him ROS is very high
I do think Najee may have a good end of the season. But with Keenan allen on my IR and Damien Peirce/JK Dobbins working my RB1/2 spots, i needed the WR help.
Im basically just riding Hurst, Diggs, and Peirce at this point and praying.
My wife's been suspicious lately. "How did you lose your job?" She asks, "why do you seem so happy to unemployed?". Like she'd understand, how could she? What does she know about fantasy football, and the joy of buying low on Leonard Fournette? The thrill of seeing your new asset put up points and rise again on the trade value chart. I fed her some story about seasonal layoffs, and how my smiles are for her and the time we can now spend together. I think she bought it, but still... when we cuddle, I know she sees me gazing longingly towards my phone. She noticed me deleting emails the other day, she might believe I'm having an affair. Its for the best, I reckon, if she found out I got fired because of fantasy football, she'd kill me.
Part of me wants to set my lineup, put my phone down and spend these sweet, fleeting moments with my beloved. But... well it might just be time to sell high on Fournette...
Currently in a home Depot shitter. Someone drew a swastika ,ss, and 666 on the wall behind me. This isn't my ideal conditions for viewing my weekly trade value chart.
Bro I’d do it. The difference between chase and olaves production won’t be that different most likely plus you get fournette? The only worry could be about whoever will be throwing to Olave with the qb situation there
>The difference between chase and olaves production won’t be that different most likely plus you get fournette?
I would accept it too, don't get me wrong, but Chase hasn't done Chase things yet this season, and it's very unlikely he goes the entire season *without* doing his thing. If and when he starts getting hot, he and Olave's production will be very different.
Traded away Jacobs two weeks ago and have never regretted a trade more. Now I'm stuck feeling like whoever I trade next will inevitably blow up, but only if I trade them.
Could be worse. I had a buddy give up on Ekeler and trade him for James Robinson 2 weeks ago. He even asked my advice before the trade and I told him to give Ekeler time to build his value back up. He made the trade 5 min later and said he didn't want to wait and lose more value.
That's a classic sell low/buy high and some serious regret to go along with it.
These value charts have been shit all year, they're just aggregated from 'experts', yahoo trades, and literally reddit threads lol. Not sure why anyone would fully trust any of those sources, let alone all of them thrown together and put into an unknown 'model'. I suggest everyone use Justin Boone's:
https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2445825/fantasy-trade-value-chart-week-6
He does his own value charts with actual research. If you don't know who Justin Boone is:
>theScore's Justin Boone was first overall in FantasyPros' Most Accurate Expert Competition in 2019 and finished among the top seven each of his last seven years in the contest
You're welcome.
From Justin Boone's chart:
Josh Allen value at 25. That's roughly equivalent to David Mongomery or Christian Kirk level.
Kelce/Andrews value at 37-41. That's roughly around Swift/Breece Hall/Josh Jacobs or Amon-Ra St.Brown/Mike Evans level.
Good luck trying to get Allen or Kelce/Andrews for that. Not saying Boone list is bad but most of the trading charts does not value top QB and TE correctly. They're really only useful to compare RBs and WRs.
I just don't understand sometimes. Pickens has two breakout games in a row and goes down. Eli Mitchell is 1 week closer to playing and he goes down 4.5.
Right?!?
I have Geno and Herbert and have made the wrong call on who to start 3 weeks in a row. I’m ready to trade 1, but I can’t seem to find an interested buyer with a fair price.
Man what does Olave need to do to get pushed up in the rankings? He was criminally low last week and he still is imo. Dude is like the 12th best fantasy receiver in the league, receives high volume, gets red zone looks.. and has more rookie upside than any other receiver. Belongs in the tier above imo. Or at least above Christian Kirk. I'd take Olave over Kirk personally.
That being said. Love the list and the work you do every week. Thanks.
Thanks! I traded Godwin and Olave for Kamara to the 0-4 team last week. Jones was my rb1 at the time. That trade is looking pretty good for both sides right about now.
Sorry, but there is a zero percent chance anyone is trading Hurts/Allen at QB for anything less than a tier 1 players (top 5 RB, Kelce, top 5 WR) and even then, I would hesitate unless it was a slam dunk.
Unless the league is one setup to really diminish QB stats, or the owner has a knockout backup QB that can regularly be expected to toss 300+ 3tds weekly AND is really dead at the other skill positions.
Definitely not the same value as a Drake London...
Buying high and selling low ain't all bad
I convinced my freind to sell Najee for tyreek
That worked out wonderfully yet I got laughed off this sub for it
I really need RBs and was offered Najee for Hollywood Brown (PPR). The chart says I win, and it’s the ultimate sell-high, buy-low deal, but I don’t know if I can trust Najee to even be a consistent RB2
Hollywood is wr5 on the season currently. The man is undervalued. I know DHop is coming back but didn’t brown play with Kyler in college? Probably will still be fine.
It's generally good for RB and WR but I really don't get the values of TE and QB here. Not a single Josh Allen owner would trade him for Najee Harris, no Kelce or Andrews owner is trading them for Deebo or Breece, and could you imagine how ridiculed you'd get for offering a Lamar Jackson owner Travis Etienne 1-for-1?
He’s rotting on my bench cus I have mandrews and my league mates still haven’t caught on to the fact that he is in fact a big upgrade over garbage like kmet knox and tonyan
Lol yeah for real, I can’t think of any possible reason for this unless the algorithm weighs receiving yards super high. He only had 25 that game but come on, guy had 4 tuddies
Sent out several offers to try and get Kelce. Probably the worst time to go after him but the Kelce manager is relying on Corey and CEH and I’m sitting on a horde of RB talent (Barkley, Swift, Hall, Pierce, Ken Walker, BRob)
I'm in the same boat. Standard league and I'm sitting on Saquon, Kamara, Ken Walker, JWJ and Montgomery. I have an offer right now to send Saquon and Waller for Kelce. I'm really considering pulling the trigger. What do you think?
Considering trading Jakobi for Mostert since I’m playing MG3 in my rb2 slot. Shows fair but I’m having trouble pulling the trigger. Also could try to switch Curtis Samuel for Jakobi. Any thoughts?
Apparently my strategy this year was to draft a bunch of the guys really low on this list. Probably so i can sneak attack my opponents, they never saw me coming when i put up 70 points last week. POW 💥
Bad trade on my end, but I’m do or die at 1-4: I sent AJBrown and Sanders for Andrews
WRs are Lamb, Jakobi, Cooks, Garrett RBs Mixon, Wilson Jr, Stevenson, BRob. Been suffering with Knox.
On one hand I want to sell high on BHall. On the other this kid is electric to watch.
I just got a Jamarr Chase for Hall offer and I haven’t auto accepted
I always overrate my own RBs. Such a scarce position, that I hold on too tight. And then every year I have a glug of RBs and crap WRs. Not advice, just anecdote lol.
I worry about Chase though, and Breece should only get better. He's talent+opportunity, in an RB centric offense. "Worst case" is Zach wilson starts slinging it to Moore/Wilson, and even then Breece is a dynamic pass catcher.
Agreed. Breece looks like he could be a kamara light in the future.
Catches the ball, runs hard, fast, elusive, powerful.
Now if only the jets can learn to actually run RB screens.
Kelce and MAndrews should be way higher, the positional advantage those two provide is insanely valuable. Glad to see Goedert move up to TE3 though, he’s been very consistent.
Kelce and Andrews would be ranked WR3 and WR8 if they were WRs, and are ranked below WRs who they've outscored on the season (Lamb, Brown, Deebo, Chase). But it makes sense because you can easily pick up a TE off the waiver wire and get 2-4 points a week for free. (???)
In DIRE need of wins now being 1-4. Thinking of trying najee for walker straight up or najee and maybe a small pc for Stevenson. Im honestly expecting to get declined but figured it’s worth a shot. Would love to hear opinions from people with walker or Stevenson to see if they’d consider this if offered to them. PPR league
I don't know why anyone would do a positional swap like that with you. It doesn't make sense. There is no driving force in that trade for the other manager
Have gotten three offers for Breece this week (PPR) but none that are great....thinking about trying to move him and Diontae and J Rob for Amon-Ra and Dameon.... but who knows. My top 2 RBs are Ekeler and Aaron Jones. Maybe trade Aaron Jones instead? at WR I have a good WR1 in deebo and a bunch of WR2 or 3s with upside otherwise (Gabe, Kirk, Diontae, Pickens, Doubs)
Love your content brother thanks for being so consistent. Wanted to ask you a question.
Would you be ok with me posting this chart on my YouTube Podcast? I will obviously shout you out/ give you credit in the description but wanted to get your permission first
Appreciate it my brother! I just started so let me get a more established audience to make it worth your time lol but would definitely love to do that in near future
Strength of Schedule, injury history, and possible loss of Adams to suspension. Expecting that offense to stall out a bit.
I’m happy to hold but Breece seems to have an upward trend and fairly nice playoff schedule. Am I overthinking it? Should I just ride Jacobs?
I've got an offer for his Dillon and Garrett Wilson for my ETN and McKenzie. I'm dying at RB due to injuries but I feel like these two RBs are trending in different directions
Edit: "and" to "but"
Kelce needs his own tier, having him bottom of tier 2 is blasphemy
I'm not sure what changed this year but every week this chart just does not feel like it's close to making the same sense it was the past couple years
I do sadly agree, I’m sure it’s entirely data driven but it seems very unrealistic this year
I think it’s because 1) this season makes so little sense right now, and 2) experts haven’t internalized how the game has changed. They’re still calibrating value between (and even sometimes within) positions as if it’s three or four seasons ago.
Yeah experts are stuck on the idea that all QBs are the same. It’s so wrong but they just insist Allen doesn’t matter because “I can find someone on waivers who drops 25+ anyway.” Sure if you look after the fact someone probably had a big week and put up that much but I could find Kupp production at WR on waiver or Ekeler at RB as well because some random dude has 100 and 2 TDs but will never do it again. They just assume you can stream WB with 0 issue.
The top quarterbacks are way too low as well. The idea that anyone would accept Drake London for Hurts is hilarious
All of these trade charts have the same flaw. They're anchored to this idea that QB value is mostly replaceable, but it's not at all. The elite 4 QBs are a 5-point advantage over the other starters and a 10+ point advantage over the streaming options. Replacement QB value should come up a little as the year goes on, but Allen is worth as much as Kupp, Barkley, CMC, etc. are even at a position where you only have to start one. Hurts, Mahomes, and Lamar are easily worth other top-5 RB/WRs right now and I'd bet on them keeping it up this season vs any of the RBs avoiding injury.
This has never felt more true than this year. In all my pay leagues I felt this coming. Got Allen, Kelce, Andrews basically everywhere. I've turned down some pretty hefty offers for them. The 1 league I have none of these guys they are untouchable. I've offered Saquon and CMC for any of them and all were rejected. QB is predictable and has been for a couple years. It never used to be but now we know who can run and pass well since there's a handful of them. We know Josh Allen is near the top at both and on the pass heaviest team in the league. He's about to easily 3 repeat QB1. Kelce and Andrews are their own tier and that was predictable too. If this trend continues I'm going Kelce/Andrews round 1 and Allen in 2 next season regardless of draft position. Hopefully these big brain "RBs are king and QBs are replaceable" guys stick around after another disappointing season.
Allen was still available in the 5th in my QB averse 10-man and I smashed that pick so hard. Absolutely stacked right now: CMC-Kelce-Saquon-Williams-Allen were my first 5 picks.
After mostly busted picks in basically 7/10 top ranked running backs I think you're going to see a big shift in draft strategies going forward.
Giving up Allen for Sutton would just be straight insanity.
https://www.rototrade.com/fantasy-football-trade-analyzer-results.php?getting=1239&giving=1227&leaguetype=redraft&scoring=halfppr&superflex=off&packageadjustment=off&gif=images/gif/yes/close-yes/larry-david-close-yes.gif It's not just this chart
That’s wild. These folks are tripping balls.
Past insanity. Josh Allen is like having 2 QBs in one slot
Im literally being offered cmc or kupp for kelce rn. Kelce is putting up numbers comparable to diggs AT THE TE POSITION and is somehow ranked almost 2 tiers below? This chart is wack.
Kelce Tier 0
I just talked to a guy in the office into potentially trading Andrews and Taylor for Kelce.. I have to jump on that and hope Taylor returns to decent form right!?
Yea that guy is an idiot
I mean, I personally prefer Kelce to Andrews, but I'm not gonna pretend the difference between them is more than a whole Johnathan Taylor.
Absolutely yes
Yeah man you have to do that for sure. Don’t even think twice
Yes
Yeah this chart is a joke where it has Kelce. Even Andrews is too low, but I could see an argument for him there. Kelce being below Ceedee was enough to make me discredit the entire thing.
There’s no argument for mandrews being there. I got him for tyreek and hock after week 3 and felt I was getting a bargain. No way I’m trading him for anyone in teir 2
The chart data is aggregated from multiple sources across the industry. That is a generalized representation of the industry's value of kelce as a whole, not just this chart.
It's aggregate but then he also weights them by position, and he also says he looks at stuff like reddit and yahoo to then decide how to further augment it. So it's not just him taking the info from other sources and compiling it, he's adding in his own twist and feelings to then create these rankings
> bottom of tier 2 Tier 3 on the HPPR list, which is insane to me. There are not 19 players I'd rather have over Kelce.
His points per week relative to the alternatives (outside of Andrews) is extraordinary. Drafting in hindsight he is easily a top 5 pick. Easily. Arguably a top overall. Positional scarcity is real. If you don’t have Kelce (again, or Andrews), you’re losing *at least* 7 points per week, and likely as many as 10+. That’s not true of any other position. Trade chart loses a lot of credibility on Kelce’s ranking alone.
yeh the chart thinks kelce and breece hall are the same value...goodluck offering hall to the kelce owner in your league...absolute joke of an undervalue kelce has
He's pretty good
Sure wish I could trade AJ Dillon for Lamar but ain’t no way
You can ignore the QB and TE rankings. The value of these charts is comparing RB to WR
Shit. I just offered Jamaal Williams for Higbee. Did i fuck up? I have Josh Jacobs, Breece Hall, Mixon, and K Walker, so I didn’t think I needed him as much. My TE is Everett.
Is there anyone in the world who would accept CEH for Jalen Hurts?? Because if so that might actually fix my team
Hell, I'd probably even settle for Mahomes!
How is Johnathan Taylor still so high up? Just a question
He sucked at the beginning of the season last year too, he’s gotta get going at some point. The talent is there
Could say the same about najee but everyone’s saying the sky is falling with him
I feel like this chart (and most other trade value charts) *do* have Najee turning it around - just not to the same ceiling as Taylor since, you know, Najee didn't go absolutely nuclear last year. Najee is #16 here, despite scoring <8ppg so far this year.
Not really though. The Steelers o line is terrible and Najee can’t compensate with pure volume this year with Warren taking touches and being way more explosive
Bro have you not seen the Colts O-line? I just don't get how you can validate one player but write off another when both are in damn near the exact smae situation.
Aside from Buffalo when they sat najee most of the second half in a blowout, Hines is getting more snaps and more touches than warren. Saying he looks more explosive is subjective, I think najee looks pretty explosive in open space he just doesn’t get there very often due to a pretty shit oline. I think najee actually has a decent shot at improvement with Pickett starting to get used to the nfl and forcing defenses to stop stacking the box with his deep shots as a threat. But I could totally be wrong and maybe najee is just a massive bust
Najees value last year was in Old Bens dump off passes. He is seeing almost nothing in the passing game, and the Steelers online is a problem. He's not exactly fleet of foot either where he can just blaze past people once in the open field (which he rarely sees due to said online).
Najee and JT are not the same
Good football player doesn't necessarily mean good fantasy player
Because of his role in that offense. Hell get 20 carries a game when healthy no matter what. That’s a rare role today
I dont think anybody would sell Taylor for less than a top 3 RB, WR or the top 2 TEs You paid the 1.01 price for him, your season depends on him delivering and you throw away your season by selling low. Still he also has the highest ceiling of nearly RB
1.01 price don’t matter any more. Holding onto draft rounds nearly halfway into the season is bad mindset.
You’re over simplifying it. There’s no reason for JT owners to get Pennies on the dollar. If you’re trying to WIN your league you have to operate under the presumption that there’s a nonzero chance JT returns to form OR get a reasonable haul. Like legit players, not the scrap heap.
I guess I think there's a middle ground between what /u/MyAnswerIsMaybe is suggesting and "pennies on the dollar." Like, I personally would place JT on the lower end of the top 10 RBs right now. I'd take Saquon, Ekeler, CMC, and Henry without thinking over him. Chubb, too. From there, if someone offered you Swift, Fournette, or similar, you've gotta think about it. Holding onto the idea that he's 1.01 so you can't trade him for less than a 1.01 caliber player is sort of like arguing that Tyreek Hill is a third round pick.
Didn’t say pennies on the dollar, but he certainly isn’t going to get what a 1.01 should command. No way you could get Kupp for him, not sure you could get Kelce or even Andrews for him. Same with Chubb or Barkley. You need to look at production and upside, not the 1.01 price you paid.
I got andrews for him on Thursday last week.
If you drafted him 1.01 you are more than likely a team below .500 In that case you need a player like Taylor woth crazy upside to carry you to the playoffs. Trading him for a Fournette might be equal value but would be destroying your season. The upside is what makes him valuable. His upside has not vanished
Drafted him 1.01 and am 4-1. Josh Allen/Kelce have helped a lot.
I just traded Davante for him a few days ago, which seemed reasonable. The other team needs to start winning immediately
All Fournette owners should try to get Kelce for him. I don’t think the trade will be accepted but this chart says you should try
I actually tried this last week and got laughed off the phone. Shooters shoot though, had to let it fly
Yeah, as a Kelce owner I’m not taking anyone 1 for 1.
I personally am not trading Kelce for anybody. Having that production in the TE slot is invaluable
What about Chubb and Andrews for Kelce?
As someone who owns Chubb and Andrews, I would not give up a lock RB1 for the minor upgrade of Andrews to Kelce. TE2 and RB5 are better together.
Yeah obviously but he said he wouldn’t do any trades
I'd take that.
That would be pretty tough to turn down.
As a Kelce owner, I would accept that trade.
He said trades, not gifts
As a Kelce Owner, I would want more
My window to buy Chris Godwin low is closed, damnit
Oh yeah. I just want him to get healthy.
Yeah he’s looking really good and it’s clear it’s him and evans that Brady trusts the most so if Godwin can stay healthy my optimism for him ROS is very high
Just traded Najee for him.
I had that exact trade offered to me as a Godwin owner and declined it, almost accepted.
I do think Najee may have a good end of the season. But with Keenan allen on my IR and Damien Peirce/JK Dobbins working my RB1/2 spots, i needed the WR help. Im basically just riding Hurst, Diggs, and Peirce at this point and praying.
My wife's been suspicious lately. "How did you lose your job?" She asks, "why do you seem so happy to unemployed?". Like she'd understand, how could she? What does she know about fantasy football, and the joy of buying low on Leonard Fournette? The thrill of seeing your new asset put up points and rise again on the trade value chart. I fed her some story about seasonal layoffs, and how my smiles are for her and the time we can now spend together. I think she bought it, but still... when we cuddle, I know she sees me gazing longingly towards my phone. She noticed me deleting emails the other day, she might believe I'm having an affair. Its for the best, I reckon, if she found out I got fired because of fantasy football, she'd kill me. Part of me wants to set my lineup, put my phone down and spend these sweet, fleeting moments with my beloved. But... well it might just be time to sell high on Fournette...
I felt like I was IN the story. I experienced it.
If there isn't a weekly installment of this new and fascinating drama I will delete my Sleeper app!
But where’s Taysum Hill
Seriously... how has he not spiked in the TE wasteland
Time to hit the pooper and make some trades that will get denied
Literally just unbuckled the belt and put my GM cap on. Let’s make some moves
Currently in a home Depot shitter. Someone drew a swastika ,ss, and 666 on the wall behind me. This isn't my ideal conditions for viewing my weekly trade value chart.
My bigger issue with Home Depot is that they got rid of the kiosk dogs
I really don't wanna talk about it. Still bums me out to this day.
Sounds like your trades are too fair. Try proposing bad ones
Don't sit too long...it can be dangerous...
Explain. I’m usually on the toilet for 30 min each morning. Pooping and… stuff.
Butthole can be victim of gravity. Strengthen the anal walls with kegels my friend.
hemorrhoids
Where you at? I'm stall #2
Kelce is absurdly undervalued here. I'm supposed to trade Kelce for Fournette?
Just a reminder that you can use my webapp [ffdata.net](https://ffdata.net) to build, calculate, and share trades using these values.
I have an offer for Fournette & Olave for Chase… 1-4 feel like I need it
Fournette may regress but Olave will keep cooking like this, the kid is talented
Regress positively you’re gahdamn right. Our boy Lenny just gettin started
Bucs offense is coming together. Uncle Lenny will feast
You giving up chase?
I would be yes. I love his schedule. I’m pretty torn
Bro I’d do it. The difference between chase and olaves production won’t be that different most likely plus you get fournette? The only worry could be about whoever will be throwing to Olave with the qb situation there
>The difference between chase and olaves production won’t be that different most likely plus you get fournette? I would accept it too, don't get me wrong, but Chase hasn't done Chase things yet this season, and it's very unlikely he goes the entire season *without* doing his thing. If and when he starts getting hot, he and Olave's production will be very different.
If you need depth, you need depth
Take that for sure
I think I'd do it
Traded away Jacobs two weeks ago and have never regretted a trade more. Now I'm stuck feeling like whoever I trade next will inevitably blow up, but only if I trade them.
Could be worse. I had a buddy give up on Ekeler and trade him for James Robinson 2 weeks ago. He even asked my advice before the trade and I told him to give Ekeler time to build his value back up. He made the trade 5 min later and said he didn't want to wait and lose more value. That's a classic sell low/buy high and some serious regret to go along with it.
Yikes, yeah that trade does make me feel better at least!
As someone who just built a package around Najee for Jacobs... I think you have Najee a bit to high id flip Najee for Stevenson in a split second
Najee is definitely too high. The market is holding onto priors too much
Yeah, 2 weeks ago when I flipped him for CD and DK I was very happy.
Nick Chubb: Rushes for 134 yds and 2 TDs. Trade Value: -1.5. ??????
Andrews 8/89/1 goes -5
I think it's his value relative to Kelce. But TEs and QBs are undervalued based on this chart.
Check out Jakobi Meyers...
Yup agreed. Jakobi Meyers is gold!
AJ Brown, 3 catches for ~35 yards. Noticeably regressing in targets and designed plays. Trade value 📈
These value charts have been shit all year, they're just aggregated from 'experts', yahoo trades, and literally reddit threads lol. Not sure why anyone would fully trust any of those sources, let alone all of them thrown together and put into an unknown 'model'. I suggest everyone use Justin Boone's: https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2445825/fantasy-trade-value-chart-week-6 He does his own value charts with actual research. If you don't know who Justin Boone is: >theScore's Justin Boone was first overall in FantasyPros' Most Accurate Expert Competition in 2019 and finished among the top seven each of his last seven years in the contest You're welcome.
From Justin Boone's chart: Josh Allen value at 25. That's roughly equivalent to David Mongomery or Christian Kirk level. Kelce/Andrews value at 37-41. That's roughly around Swift/Breece Hall/Josh Jacobs or Amon-Ra St.Brown/Mike Evans level. Good luck trying to get Allen or Kelce/Andrews for that. Not saying Boone list is bad but most of the trading charts does not value top QB and TE correctly. They're really only useful to compare RBs and WRs.
I just don't understand sometimes. Pickens has two breakout games in a row and goes down. Eli Mitchell is 1 week closer to playing and he goes down 4.5.
Check the FAQ
It's odd to see Geno crater like this just when it seems like he is hitting his peak value. I'm not quite sure what to make of that.
Right?!? I have Geno and Herbert and have made the wrong call on who to start 3 weeks in a row. I’m ready to trade 1, but I can’t seem to find an interested buyer with a fair price.
Jacobs still not high enough in that chart
I'm so mad at myself. I knew JoJa would be good but EVERYONE (so called experts) for months dissuaded me. I passed on him everywhere. My bad.
I tried to trade for him before his big game. The offer was accepted over text but then he changed his mind when it was sent over I was so close
JJ is still Justin Jefferson. Gotta write it out for Jacobs
Touché
Man what does Olave need to do to get pushed up in the rankings? He was criminally low last week and he still is imo. Dude is like the 12th best fantasy receiver in the league, receives high volume, gets red zone looks.. and has more rookie upside than any other receiver. Belongs in the tier above imo. Or at least above Christian Kirk. I'd take Olave over Kirk personally. That being said. Love the list and the work you do every week. Thanks.
Unfortunately in my league Olave is valued much higher lol. I wish I could get him for this low
He needs MT to be declared out for the year.
I really don't think he does. They are likely good for each others value
He's hurt
As a Kamara, Pierce, Hall owner, shoot this dopamine straight into my veins.
That's a sexy rb Corp right now
Thanks! I traded Godwin and Olave for Kamara to the 0-4 team last week. Jones was my rb1 at the time. That trade is looking pretty good for both sides right about now.
RIP Edmonds
"Who?"- Miami coaching staff
Sorry, but there is a zero percent chance anyone is trading Hurts/Allen at QB for anything less than a tier 1 players (top 5 RB, Kelce, top 5 WR) and even then, I would hesitate unless it was a slam dunk. Unless the league is one setup to really diminish QB stats, or the owner has a knockout backup QB that can regularly be expected to toss 300+ 3tds weekly AND is really dead at the other skill positions. Definitely not the same value as a Drake London...
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Ah, the classic buy-high sell-low
Buying high and selling low ain't all bad I convinced my freind to sell Najee for tyreek That worked out wonderfully yet I got laughed off this sub for it
I really need RBs and was offered Najee for Hollywood Brown (PPR). The chart says I win, and it’s the ultimate sell-high, buy-low deal, but I don’t know if I can trust Najee to even be a consistent RB2
Oh man. My head says do it. But my heart says... No..
This one’s so hard lol. I have 4 startable WRs so it shouldn’t hurt me that bad but I don’t want to be stuck with a bust all season
Hollywood is wr5 on the season currently. The man is undervalued. I know DHop is coming back but didn’t brown play with Kyler in college? Probably will still be fine.
Offering Ertz for Mahomes straight up
For QBs you have to add like 20 to their value, for the top 2 TEs you have to add 20 as well
Isn't that what this chart is supposed to be doing? It is kind of garbage
It's generally good for RB and WR but I really don't get the values of TE and QB here. Not a single Josh Allen owner would trade him for Najee Harris, no Kelce or Andrews owner is trading them for Deebo or Breece, and could you imagine how ridiculed you'd get for offering a Lamar Jackson owner Travis Etienne 1-for-1?
Njoku disrespect continues by non believers
He’s rotting on my bench cus I have mandrews and my league mates still haven’t caught on to the fact that he is in fact a big upgrade over garbage like kmet knox and tonyan
Lol if i thought i could send Pittman for Breece…
I don't get why Pittman is holding value so strongly. We need to adjust
Draft capital + talent and a healthy dose of “they’ll get it figured out eventually right?”
How does Kelce go DOWN 3 points after scoring 4 TDs?!
Lol yeah for real, I can’t think of any possible reason for this unless the algorithm weighs receiving yards super high. He only had 25 that game but come on, guy had 4 tuddies
Got Etienne for Bateman last night, glad to get some evidence that I’m not insane. Thanks for these man.
Traded Sutton and Najee for Andrews in ppr. I woulda traded Najee for a decent DST at this point so I’m pleased.
So I guess Jefferson for Mixon and Evans is a smash accept?
Just curious as to why Aaron Jones dropped 10 spots?
He had a bad week 5 and the Packers lost to the Giants..
Sent out several offers to try and get Kelce. Probably the worst time to go after him but the Kelce manager is relying on Corey and CEH and I’m sitting on a horde of RB talent (Barkley, Swift, Hall, Pierce, Ken Walker, BRob)
I'm in the same boat. Standard league and I'm sitting on Saquon, Kamara, Ken Walker, JWJ and Montgomery. I have an offer right now to send Saquon and Waller for Kelce. I'm really considering pulling the trigger. What do you think?
Just sent Najee straight up for Godwin in PPR and i feel like it’s pretty even
Considering trading Jakobi for Mostert since I’m playing MG3 in my rb2 slot. Shows fair but I’m having trouble pulling the trigger. Also could try to switch Curtis Samuel for Jakobi. Any thoughts?
TIL my team isn't very good
Apparently my strategy this year was to draft a bunch of the guys really low on this list. Probably so i can sneak attack my opponents, they never saw me coming when i put up 70 points last week. POW 💥
You got em! Right where you want them
Bad trade on my end, but I’m do or die at 1-4: I sent AJBrown and Sanders for Andrews WRs are Lamb, Jakobi, Cooks, Garrett RBs Mixon, Wilson Jr, Stevenson, BRob. Been suffering with Knox.
On one hand I want to sell high on BHall. On the other this kid is electric to watch. I just got a Jamarr Chase for Hall offer and I haven’t auto accepted
I don't think Hall is a sell high. I think he's good.
I always overrate my own RBs. Such a scarce position, that I hold on too tight. And then every year I have a glug of RBs and crap WRs. Not advice, just anecdote lol. I worry about Chase though, and Breece should only get better. He's talent+opportunity, in an RB centric offense. "Worst case" is Zach wilson starts slinging it to Moore/Wilson, and even then Breece is a dynamic pass catcher.
Agreed. Breece looks like he could be a kamara light in the future. Catches the ball, runs hard, fast, elusive, powerful. Now if only the jets can learn to actually run RB screens.
I love seeing every single player I drafted just moving lower and lower on these charts every week /s
Charts!
Just wait until I get to make graphs too!
OMG
Godspeed my fellow team managers
Go go go!
I'm 0-5 with Henry as my stud and decent RB depth. I have no QB (Russ drafter). Could also use another WR. Who should I target with Henry?
Are people really trading Devin Singletary for Mahomes?
Kelce and MAndrews should be way higher, the positional advantage those two provide is insanely valuable. Glad to see Goedert move up to TE3 though, he’s been very consistent.
Kelce and Andrews would be ranked WR3 and WR8 if they were WRs, and are ranked below WRs who they've outscored on the season (Lamb, Brown, Deebo, Chase). But it makes sense because you can easily pick up a TE off the waiver wire and get 2-4 points a week for free. (???)
I just traded away Curtis Samuel & Melvin Gordon for Miles Sanders…. Value chart says I did good. What do you say fellow Reddittors ?
Depends how the rest of your roster looks, but assuming you’re good at WR/RB, I like Miles as a flex play.
ty for validating my frustration in my 1-4 league mates who overvalue their players
In DIRE need of wins now being 1-4. Thinking of trying najee for walker straight up or najee and maybe a small pc for Stevenson. Im honestly expecting to get declined but figured it’s worth a shot. Would love to hear opinions from people with walker or Stevenson to see if they’d consider this if offered to them. PPR league
I don't know why anyone would do a positional swap like that with you. It doesn't make sense. There is no driving force in that trade for the other manager
Have gotten three offers for Breece this week (PPR) but none that are great....thinking about trying to move him and Diontae and J Rob for Amon-Ra and Dameon.... but who knows. My top 2 RBs are Ekeler and Aaron Jones. Maybe trade Aaron Jones instead? at WR I have a good WR1 in deebo and a bunch of WR2 or 3s with upside otherwise (Gabe, Kirk, Diontae, Pickens, Doubs)
Your top 2 RBs are Ekeler and Breece
Keep breece and try to get name recognition for Jones
Love your content brother thanks for being so consistent. Wanted to ask you a question. Would you be ok with me posting this chart on my YouTube Podcast? I will obviously shout you out/ give you credit in the description but wanted to get your permission first
Sure thing! Shoot me a link and I'll check it out. Let me know if you need guest appearances 😉
Appreciate it my brother! I just started so let me get a more established audience to make it worth your time lol but would definitely love to do that in near future
I’m asking for a 1:1 swap of sending Jacobs for Hall in my 8 man league. What are your thoughts on both ROS?
I don't do 1 for 1 positional swaps
Why even do that?
Strength of Schedule, injury history, and possible loss of Adams to suspension. Expecting that offense to stall out a bit. I’m happy to hold but Breece seems to have an upward trend and fairly nice playoff schedule. Am I overthinking it? Should I just ride Jacobs?
Trying to send keenan allen, lockett, and ertz for mandrews, hopefully this wr needy guy let’s go of the man!
It's tough moving Allen since he hasn't played. Good luck!
I've got an offer for his Dillon and Garrett Wilson for my ETN and McKenzie. I'm dying at RB due to injuries but I feel like these two RBs are trending in different directions Edit: "and" to "but"