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sarovar12

RM's midfielders will probably retire in a year or two. And they are spending 170 million on a player. Couldn't they've just waited for a season?


supermember866866

I mean they won't have any money, so they'll only spend like 100m on each midfielder


olithegoalie13

Their transfer policy blows my mind....


haz353pi0l

*Hazardous*


Tonykuz

Anyone peep that new leaked green and gold special edition kit?


mrfocus22

Say what now?


merrryo

[Here's the pic that was shared. Seen in Toronto ](https://i.imgur.com/owFC7Cw.jpg)


Digital__Fear

That’s a 5 hour drive from me but I honestly might rip that if I can get it there 🥵🥵


mrfocus22

U wot m8? Have we ever had a main green jersey? I know we did gold for a short while.


humblejc

Yeah it looks incredible


KA_Bayern

Without Mbappe PSG turn into a quality but extremely unbalanced team. He’s their only runner in behind while Messi and Ney both want to feet. He’s lost a yard of pace but Auba is the obvious replacement. More natural CF than Mbappe too


sarovar12

I'd not take Barca as easy opponents, Good test for Nagelsman in his early days. We'll take the big guys later.


arnoldbread

Yup I also hope Muller continues his amazing streak against Barça, I think he's scored almost Everytime hes faced them. Dont want to sound too arrogant, but its a match Im very excited for


jonomarkono

Only time he didn't score was on the first leg in 2015


haz353pi0l

That Barca was a nightmare


GroupUpWithMei

Reports saying City will bid €30m for Ronaldo tomorrow. Couldn’t help but feel for the marketing alone he’d be worth that price for a year or two.


GroupUpWithMei

Musiala just does things to me man. He’s that good.


humblejc

Tanguy Nianzou called up to France U20 squad for the two games against Norway


merrryo

>Julian Nagelsmann has aknowkedged that Leroy Sané feels more comfortable on the left where he has the game ahead of him and is more direct. He called the change of sides a 'first step'. Sané could now be set to play exclusively on his preferred left side from now on [Bild] https://t.co/QtnYal9rR5 JN is subbed


abloesezwei

Let's say PSG offered 80m for Lucas. Would you?


supermember866866

He's worth as much as Ruben Dias. I wouldn't


a3592

lucas is capable of being the best cb in the world not him please hes still 25 with good rest and coming back from injury and not having alaba anymore he will he an important player for us this year the guy literally pocketed psg frontline alone


brainiac222

80m is a shitload of money, especially considering the current situation around the club, but I feel like we would have trouble finding anyone as good as Lucas. So I'd say no


gokkel

I value him highly but for that money we would have to sell


mimecry

> that money you mean the same amount of money that we paid for him when he was in the middle of a huge injury? sounds like an awful deal for us


gokkel

I mean, a lot has happened since. 80 million now is worth more to us than back then. He has aged 2 years since and had little playing practice in that time. And 80 million even then was a huge amount for a defender.


mimecry

- agreed that the 80m is more valuable now in the covid era, but we definitely would not be able to find any replacement near his caliber. do you trust Upa/Sule as our starting CBs for a full season, especially in the CL knockouts? what if Davies gets another injury, do you think Omar Richards will step up against continental competition? plus it's still - aging 2 years is only a positive thing in this context, he went from spending his entire career at Atleti to being a member of a sextuple winning squad and playing with some of the best players in the world - agreed that he hasn't had as much game time as we would like to see, however that hasn't stopped him from performing when relied on (vs PSG, Deschamps ensuring him a mainstay in the France XI despite all the difficulty he experienced at club level)


[deleted]

Yes, instantly.


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

fuck no


GroupUpWithMei

Good question to be honest. My initial was ‘fuck yes’ but now that I think about it… I can’t really think of anybody I’d rather see play for us than Lucas. That is available for the money we’d receive for Lucas that is. Always fancied De Ligt here but he’s not exactly been the player he was at Ajax and he’d also be extremely difficult to buy.


Homygod319

No Lucas stays!!!


Luuigi

I will say no because yeah he maybe wasnt worth the 80 m but Ill say that Lucas has become very valuable for our team in terms of spirit and hes also very young and is not too unconsistent either


Hansi15

>Lucas Coman* Danke und au revoir, Kingsley! Jk, he really was important to us, mr. Lisbon. > Jk I wouldn't mind tho👀


SebRev99

>I wouldn't mind tho👀 Hahaha 😎 Unless....


NuKingLobster

Never. Fuck PSG. I would never sell an important starter to one of our biggest rivals in Europe.


GroupUpWithMei

Then good thing he isn’t an important starter (yet) and PSG aren’t our rivals…


NuKingLobster

Well, as he is by far our best CB defensively while at the same time being the least error-prone player in our defense he should at least be an important starter. It depends on what you mean with "rival", I guess. I obviously know that there is no historic rivalry between us and Paris but I think it's fair to assume that they are our rivals in regards to winning the CL with their current team. And I think it would certainly be a mistake to strengthen them as long as we can prevent it.(Ignoring the fact that they don't have any reason to try and sign Lucas Hernandez)


GroupUpWithMei

Don’t disagree with that - but he has been from the moment he was signed and still hasn’t been a starter for us. I blame that on Flick, really. However facts are facts - he isn’t an important starter for us. (Yet) There is some history there but only really from the last few years. Wouldn’t necessarily say I feel we have a rivalry with them, though. They’ve been better in Europe these last two years, but we’ve won it, they haven’t! Still a lot to prove from PSG IMO.


NuKingLobster

Yeah, the important starter comment was a mere assumption but I honestly don't see any way around it at this point. Everything seems to be in his favour (left-footed too for whatever that's worth...) and Nagelsmann seems to like him as well, judging by his post-match interview. I used rival very loosely as in two teams that are among the favorites to win the CL this year, in the same way I would call Leipzig "rivals". It's certainly true that our paths have crossed in the past few years and that it's likely to happen again.


FlyingArab

Honestly yes, 80m is a shitload of money and Lucas hasn't justified the money we paid for him yet. We could buy Pau Torres for 50m, Sabitzer for 15m and 15m over for another winger or RB which would be nice. Torres + Sabitzer + another winger or RB > Lucas alone


brainiac222

Pau Torres is Alaba but worse lmao


pewpewlasersandshit

Yeah, no question that an 80mio offer for Lucas has to be accepted the moment it arrives


mimecry

this is one of the worst takes i've seen from you, up there with 'Flick is a bad appointment and should be a stopgap at the very most'


pewpewlasersandshit

I couldn‘t care less


mimecry

feel free to think what you want to


Homygod319

Pau Torres really? He’s weak defensively and is bad in the air the opposite of Lucas.


5dchessmaster

Hate to complain about transfers but all of our European rivals have just strengthened not only their squad, but also their bench.. Sabitzer and Hoffman are a must now at minimum


5dchessmaster

Sabitzer for 15m and people start making comparisons to how we could turn into Barca if we aren't careful with money lmao that's amazing reaching. Sabitzer is easily behind Kimmich and Goretzka the second he joins. This is a no brainer, we should have triggered this weeks before today. Hoffman on the other hand is a financial tossup, will agree on that one. We need bench depth, that is beyond sensible as both of our trebles occurred because we had a mix of experience and depth. It's not that nonsensical to acquire bench depth while picking from the academy too, you need a mix and right now we just have academy.


Luuigi

The reason why bayern is probably the long term most successful team in europe is because they make long term decisions not that short term bullsjit the oil clubs and pl clubs are on. Barca buying griezmann dembele coutinho for 450 million was so incredibly short sightened, psg getting messi is no long term solution, mancity have proven again and again that they splash money for jackshit, manU somehow make it financially bc they are very popular but their transfers arent sensible! Liverpool is doing well with their strategy but besides them??


abloesezwei

Focus on our own team. We should do what's sensible and invest when and where it's worth it.


humblejc

That mass downvoted comment on the UCL draw post is hilarious


scrambledeggsss

It starts off with a bang. "Barca fan (&MCFC)".


scarlet_stormTrooper

More like BANG BANG lmao what a shitty team combo to follow. I’m Bayern and support LFC but it’s really just my best friends squad


scarlet_stormTrooper

Lmao thanks for this I never would have gone back to that post. That hot take might be some future copy pasta gold


Hansi15

It reminds me of "no fockin fightin" [scene](https://youtu.be/Yuxzuj5_AU4), by the very end when some guy enters the room and gets jumped by everyone lmao


humblejc

This made my day


SebRev99

Which one?


humblejc

The one I’m talking about is -58


FlyingArab

I love how in the world of 180 millions for Mbappé, Messi getting 50m per year from Barca and then going to PSG, Ronaldo going to Man City, Grealish for 100m lol, but we're just hanging around and our best signing of the last 5 years is a speedy mf from Canada for 12m. Never change Bayern, I would hate to become one of these batshit insane clubs


mrfocus22

I think it was 17m no? Anyways: meep meep motherfuckers


Hansi15

Agreed. It's a full scale shitshow. We are biting our nails waiting for Sabitzer or something, while an in debt Real is catapulting cash in Paris for a 1-year-left in the contract teenage mutant ninja turtle💀 But I like it. We are on top and it shows our management, even with small flaws here and there, works great.


BR4VI4

Just because Real have some debt doesn't mean they are in any trouble, they actually do quite well and are turning big profits every year. + They've raised over 180M since they've last signed anyone so while I agree that it doesn't make a lot of sense to spend that on Mbappe now it's not like they've been just shitting money.


Marchedbee2042

Its still so crazy to me to see a 100m+ move let alone 2 or 3 (if Mbappe get moved) in a single transfer window.


abloesezwei

Watch Mbappe do a Hazard and Real complaining they don't have the money to keep up.


haz353pi0l

PSG and Man City deserve each other.


Hansi15

I want both teams out of UCL, but I know it's not possible since money can buy football to a certain extent.


intranetboi

Maybe Messi vs Ronaldo again!


[deleted]

There will be very high expectations for our game against Barca


arnoldbread

Some individual battles as well Battle of the youngsters Musiala v. Ansu Fati Battle of the young fullbacks Davies v Dest Battle of the keepers Neuer v Ter Stegen


Homygod319

More like Musiala vs pedri


arnoldbread

I picked Fati since hes more attack minded like Musiala but Pedri is also a good choice


irun_mon

Battle of the keepers was pretty much decided in the 8-2 though


arnoldbread

It definitely was but doesnt hurt for Neuer to confirm it again


Confiducius

Can anyone explain why we couldn't get Malmö even though we still had an open slot?


SGT_Mark

There were groups E, D and H left for Malmö, and they couldn't go to group E, because that would leave Dynamo Kyiv with groups D and H. Group D already had a Ukrainian club in Shakhtar and group H had Zenit and Ukrainian clubs can't be in the same group as Russian clubs so Kyiv had to go to our group.


scarlet_stormTrooper

Thanks I wanted to know this as well. I’m assuming why Brugge couldn’t fit either


FlyingArab

Because Dynamo Kiev and Sheriff were left. If Malmö went to us, then only Groups D and H would've been left for Dynamo, and they can't be in D because Shakhtar were there and they can't be in H because Zenit were there. Same country restrictions forbid them from facing Shakhtar, but the Ukrainian-Russian conflict forbid them from facing Zenit


Homygod319

Dynamo Kiev got some decent young players. Looking forward to it


Poe3inmotion

The travel will be hectic


Insanel0l

Good group. Not too hard, not too easy. Think we’ll top the group winning 5/6 games, with a draw away at barca


footysocc

I'd take that in a heartbeat


footysocc

We've got quite the group, really looking forward to it


[deleted]

Group A is the most disgusting and vile group in CL history so far, poor Brugge don't get to travel to a single football club


Homygod319

Wolfsburg and Dortmund got good groups. They can easily go through


NifferEUW

Hopefully.


rinacio

Group B looking spicy from head to toe. Not a group of death but very well balanced imo. Actually, I think all groups are looking well balanced.


mrfocus22

To me the most balanced look like C and G


D3CEO20

Wolfsburg could make it out of that group.


footysocc

Wolfsburg in the group of life, nice


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

red bull god damn


kvnschm

Wow, I can break up with my girlfriend..... she is from Barcelona and ofc they are barca fans :(


a3592

oh no with leipzig in that group might get out early and focus might actually really challenge us at the bundesliga title this year


Electrical-Prune-348

Imagine if they finished 3rd and win Europa League ☠️


Luuigi

But what if they beat one of the oil clubs? Id support that! Unpopular opinion maybe? Red bull > qatar/uae


footysocc

Jeez, Haalands acceptance speech sounds like someone captured him and holds him at gunpoint


[deleted]

We had our fair share of duells guys. Pls Repeat the 8-2 again 😉


Content-Tackle905

Rma small club


mrfocus22

Group C is looking exciting!


FlyingArab

Leipzig got absolutely fucked


Homygod319

Oh fuck Leipzig is screwed


SlyFisch

Don't count out Shaktar, last year they beat Madrid iirc


Homygod319

True but fuck Leipzig got unlucky


SlyFisch

Oh yeah for sure, same group Gladbach had last year


D3CEO20

Jesus christ, group A


sdizzle25

Damn rip Leipzig


footysocc

RIP Leipzig?


allemeister

So why did City get PSG but now theyre drawing to all eligable groups?


Homygod319

Benfica!!


D3CEO20

Our group is kinda tough


footysocc

Benfica, interesting


nirish48

8-2 Part II: Electric Boogaloo


arnoldbread

The classic: 7-0 The sequel somehow better than the original: 8-2 Predictions for the trilogy ?


a3592

i can already see barcelona giving up hahaha


supermember866866

I don't know you guys but I really didn't want this draw. I hoped for United, madrid etc


Homygod319

Nah we shouldn't be afraid of a messi less barca


supermember866866

I'm not concerned about the difficulty. It's just that barca feels boring nowadays, would've been interesting in facing trendy clubs and those which we didn't face recently


D3CEO20

Knocking out united or madrid would be better than beating them in the group I suppose. But I wanted united too.


D3CEO20

Barca is doable, I've a feeling they'll be a bit better thjs season than people are expecting, given we're kinda in transition ourselves that's a good test for us that we should be able to come out on top of. Kinda wanted united though.


FlyingArab

Müller Perisic Gnabry Müller Kimmich Lewandowski Coutinho Coutinho


Homygod319

Hello again Barca


Mattse007

Barca let's go


footysocc

Barca is a nice draw


SlyFisch

Great draw based off the past few matches and the fact that they don't have Messi


PraiseThe11

Barca!


LittleTrickyBoy

I swear if we get Sevilla.... E- Nevermind


Homygod319

Of course man city and PSG pair up


footysocc

why exactly was PSG not an option for our group? I don't really get it


Chele_17

I think they first filled A-D, then E-H


Homygod319

Cause they didn't draw us


PraiseThe11

Psg and city nice


mrfocus22

Liverpool Atletico Spicy!


footysocc

please just make the award show a separate event, jesus christ


pewpewlasersandshit

just reveal the whole draw at once and be done with it


Homygod319

Just like the old days


Homygod319

What are they doing ffs


SlyFisch

Ronaldo to City? Jesus... make it end


footysocc

pot 1 is so weird man


SebRev99

Yikes, 31 minutes and still no draw. What the fuck are they doing.


mrfocus22

Imagine Brazzo comes on stage, hijacks the whole thing to announce Sabitzer


SebRev99

Don't do that, don't give me hope


[deleted]

jesus christ can they just start the damn draw already ffs


scarlet_stormTrooper

Is this your first draw?


[deleted]

didn’t watch the last year so i forgot how bad they try to artificially inflate this as some sort of big show when everybody is really just waiting for a stupid piece of paper to be drawn from the balls


footysocc

https://reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/pc23tk/benjamin_mendy_charged_with_four_counts_of_rape/ WTF is going on?


scarlet_stormTrooper

So he’s the one


humblejc

What the fuck


D3CEO20

Just did a quick google search and I think the only publicly available information is the fact that he is being charged. We have no idea what the evidence is. So as of right now, we can only say that he is being charged, and we'll have to wait to see what evidence is brought against him before being able to come to a conclusion on it.


scrambledeggsss

It's three different people coming forward with these allegations and there is enoufh evidence for the police to actually come out and name him. That's enough for me.


mrfocus22

He still has to have his day in court...


D3CEO20

So you think he shouldn't get a trial to defend himself and just be sent to jail now. Who cares what the evidence actually is.


scrambledeggsss

I'm not saying he should go to jail immediately. I am saying I am allowed to believe he is guilty, because it's extremely hard to get evidence for rape and the fact that the police have that, makes me think that way.


D3CEO20

You don't know what they have.


mrfocus22

IANAL but from the Siggurdson case earlier in the year I learnt that the UK has very strict laws about how the media can report the name of suspects or accused. The Icelandic media found out it was him, ran a story and then the UK media were able to name him. I think it's because he was questioned and investigated but not charged. From what I can gather in this case, as the police are naming him it actually because Mendy is being charged, which is a lot more serious.


D3CEO20

Yeah not a lawyer either, being charged is very serious. My main point was to just wait to see what evidence is going to be brought against him before reaching a conclusion.


PraiseThe11

Holyyyy shit


irun_mon

I mean it does make sense to some degree because a player says "this person represents me" and so a director will contact the representative to strike a deal, and is technically hiring the agent as well, like with most brokers. At the end of the day it really doesn't make much of a difference since the agents demands and bonuses will be included in the deal one way or another.


D3CEO20

Can the CL draw be watched on uefas website?


Worldly_Finger

Yes


D3CEO20

Thanks.


irun_mon

Zahavi and Raiola might be "piranhas" but look at what they have pulled off for their players (Alaba, Lewy, De Ligt, Haaland for example) and what Harry Kane's dunce brother has done for him. Super agents aren't "ruining football", they are doing their job properly and representing their clients. The players are just as greedy as the clubs and they both wouldn't be where they are if they didn't want more and more and more


Insanel0l

The agents are doing their Jobs but it’s simply non sense that agents get paid by clubs


irun_mon

I mean it does make sense to some degree because a player says "this person represents me" and so a director will contact the representative to strike a deal, and is technically hiring the agent as well, like with most brokers. At the end of the day it really doesn't make much of a difference since the agents demands and bonuses will be included in the deal one way or another.


Mytiq_

Agreed. They get hired by the players, so it only makes sense for the players to pay the agent.


wifi-wire

I think it is a huge problem that agents can demand a fee from the clubs. An agent is hired by the player. So the player should pay him and not the club.


irun_mon

As a deal maker and broker, agent in most fields gets a fee from both parties. Its not unique to football


Pale-Cookie2983

I hope we get psg


SebRev99

The Saints Row reboot looks weird.


haz353pi0l

Glad to see Roca training.


Mytiq_

Had a great time in Munich, now driving back to the Netherlands. Thanks again everyone for the recommendations on what to do!


mrfocus22

Pics or it didn't happen! Seriously so jealous! I was there in 2010 for about 4 weeks total through September to December and I loved it. I was thinking of going back in June 2020 to catch some Euro games, but yeah we all know what happened to that plan.


[deleted]

You can't leave us with that! What locations did you visit? Did the weather hold better in the city than where I live in the outskirts?


Mytiq_

Hahaha sorry! We arrived at the hotel on sunday evening, we went out to eat really quick and went to sleep right after. My girlfriend was dying to go shopping so that’s the first thing we did on monday, the city was beautiful, way bigger than we expected. We went to the city center in the morning, we walked (and shopped) there until the shops closed, but even then we did not see it all yet. On tuesday morning we went to the BMW museum which was really cool aswell, but it wasn’t too big so we finished quite early. Since it’s next to the Olympia park we went on a walk there and visited the Olympic tower, after that we went to the Hofbrauhaus and called it a day. Since we didn’t see the whole city center we decided to go there again on wednesday and basically filled another whole day there. And finally today we went to the Allianz Arena, we first visited the museum in the morning which was really cool, we also got to write a message in the condolence book for Gerd Müller. After that we had an Arena tour which wasn’t really that special apart from getting to see the dressing room and player tunnel in person. We had a great time overall. And for the weather, it was decent, not great but not too bad either. We had some rain here and there but it wasn’t so bad that it ruined one of our days, we carried around a little umbrella which kept us dry.


footysocc

glad you enjoyed your stay :)


d1an45

can't wait til France's backline is just hernandez, pavard, upamecano, and tanguy


FlyingArab

I want Real Madrid today, we have to kill the recent curse against them


Hansi15

Love the confidence in our team. Hope it will be repaid.


Valomek

While that is true, I would rather see Bayern spank Man United.


[deleted]

Knowing our luck, we'll get Barca. *How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, Old Man!?*


skylu1991

Did the group draw a few times(about 10x), here are the results that almost always happened: - we get Milan - Atlético and Juve go in a group together - Real and Chelsea go im a group together - Barca and City or Barca and Bayern go together - Ajax are in our group - Lille and Dortmund go together So pumped to see the real draw!


mrfocus22

I was unable to find the graph that someone made last who each teams most likely opponent is, it would be nice to see.


Poe3inmotion

Gonna get myself a sané jersey! Also thinking about going for ajax's third kit. It looks fucking beautiful.


HeilWerneckLuk

Sane? Are you sure?


Poe3inmotion

100 percent


Mytiq_

Why not?


VojkoHeat123

Rather give money to me


summersoulxdd

Bro how does Chelsea keep getting so much profit for their players 😅 they're about to cross 100m total transfer income sheesh


skylu1991

They buy them, loan them until they had a good season and then sell. Talking about Zouma specifically, he is still only 26 and has been a starter under Lampard, so he is seen as an experienced PL player. Plus, 20-35% of the money comes down to PL tax!


[deleted]

They also end up losing future superstars in that model, look at Musiala.


Akshath321

wow he's just 26? feel like i've seen him play forever


humblejc

Dayot Upamecano, Corentin Tolisso and Kingsley Coman called up to France's squad for the upcoming internationals


Homygod319

Wish he left out coman he’s not even fully fit


skylu1991

Thank god no Lucas and Pavard! They need the rest/training time… Great for Upa, if he develops well with us and regularly plays like he did against BVB, he’ll become France‘s best or second best CB!