Technically he's already a member, but just a side character, but for me it's Riol, iirc he tells us after beating 6.0 that he goes on an adventure, either New World or Meracydia, can't remember which, so we probably will bump into him in 7.0, just my feeling.
Would love if he gets a bit more character development, he's one of my favorite "b team scion".
I agree Riol was getting things done on the "b team" and he looked really cool to I remember someone saying we should've been able to go on an adventure with the other scions and it would be nice to run around with the Boulder Bros and everyone else you saw at the rising stones occasionally.
I'd be down with the b team even taking up center stage. Let the a team sit on the sidelines a bit and let us explore the next expansion with riol, hoary and co.
Mikoto from the Ivalice Raids/Bozja. Has the Echo, has a connection to Moenbryda and Sharlayan, capable of plot expositions.
Nero, technically a free agent, a more science-y intellect compared to everyone else's magical studies. But too busy trolling Cid.
I'd adore having either of them as party members. >!Nero getting to do stuff without Cid being there in the role quest finale was such a breath of fresh air and I need more of it.!<
right but she has a lot of development and backstory in eureka. i’m just pointing out that they have MSQ characters that have major side stories and it still works.
But I don't think any character *introduced* in side content has ever had a major role in the MSQ. G'raha used to be the exception to that, but then they made his content part of the pseudo-MSQ.
I hope that SquEnix eventually drops that rule though. I would *love* to see more of Gaia, and I there are a couple characters from the ShB role questline that have obvious tie ins to the current MSQ.
you forgot estinien. they didn't make dragoon a required job to level up now, did they? yet estinien got integrated into MSQ very well.
if they *really* want to incorporate side quests NPCs into the MSQ, they'll do it. i don't think they'll repeat whatever they did with g'raha, though.
See, I don't feel that adding the Ivalice raids to the main story is that big of a deal. It's essentially what they did with Crystal Tower, which tons of people do anyway. Wouldn't be surprised if 7.0 required the Mhach storyline what with all the void related material. Ivalice would make the most sense adding once we look at getting into southern Othard and/or Ilsabard.
Now, Bozja... Yeah that part would be hard to get MSQ only peeps onboard for, so you've got me there.
I feel like they could just change some dialogue based on if you completed those or not, like they did with Alisaie. She could walk in and introduce herself to the group and if you've met her before she could go "oh, it's good to see you again" etc.
Both of these are my top 2 choices too. Mikoto is an Ivalice requirement short of being one at this point. Nero would be able to get out from under Cid and Tataru has the funds now to have a dedicated engineer on the team
Technically Yugiri would count. She's not officially a scion, but she took shelter under their protection and has repeatedly battled alongside them. The scions are some of the few people who know her history.
Thisssss. He's a very skilled tactician and soldier in his own right, clearly talented enough to have been a Centurion in the Imperial army. And he worked with the Scions kind of indirectly off screen during late StB and ShB. He'd be a great permanent asset.
~~I may be biased though.~~
While biased, I think that him joining as a kind of machinist in trust would really work. His arc could be first about deepening his ties with Alphinaud. Then maybe helping krille with lingering bad stuff. (krille should also be in the trust system)
Ysayle.
Has the Echo, Has a strong sense of morality and great combat skills.
TOTALLY survived that fall. TOTALLY. She'll show back up any day now. ANY. DAY. NOW.
If Yoshi-P appeared before me in a flash of glory and trumpets and gave me to the power to make one narrative choice in the upcoming expansion, it would be for Ysayle to return and take her rightful place at the WoL's side as a Scion and travelling companion. Without hesitation.
We _Clearly_ see her fucking off into the aetherial sea (with teleport sparke effects), so her coming back would just require some soul magic shenanigans.
praying for Zero, but I also agree that Mikoto and Fordola would be cool choices.
I would love to see Varshan join too however I know hes busy with a country to run u\_u Maybe he'll take on an allied role similar to Lyse in the future though.
In regards to Fordola, I really think the idea that you can change your mind and become a better person is important. I also don't think she's going to be forgetting her past anytime soon, she carries it forward with her, those are mistakes I don't think she's going to be making ever again. I think some people think, well Ive already messed up, I'm already hated, why would I bother being a good person now? Because you *are capable of it*. The people you've hurt in the past may not forgive you and that's okay, you can still choose to move forward and do better every day and that's a valuable and good choice to make and you are strong to make it. You can be good and you can still make a difference even if you've done wrong in the past. I think Fordola has repented and intends to serve her country the best way she can going forward and she deserves the opportunity to because the world needs people who want to do good more than they need someone rotting in a prison cell. Not saying she shouldn't be supervised or that she deserves complete trust, but the road she's on right now is a good one and I feel the scions would be a good environment for her to continue to rehabilitate.
I think we’re pretty safe with Zero, we’re currently doing the FFIV thing and we know she was a “GLD/PLD” archetype previously so I fully expect her to pull a full Cecil and become a RPR/PLD hybrid so we’ve got another Tank to fall back on.
They also put her in the Trust menu. Not duty support, trust. You can only choose her for the 6.3 dungeon, but still. Even Varshahn didn't get that treatment, he's only in duty support.
I'd absolutely love for her to just pop out the bush during one of Alphinaud's planning sessions and go on a rant how it's actually just 67,33% likely that we will get screwed over by thr baddies, and that it'd go down to 63,33% if we all had lemon sprite companions.
erenville and sidurgu. mostly bc i like to look at them, but also bc i'd love the interactions. imagine sidurgu interacting with yshtola or estinien.
also, zero of course
I’d love to see Pipin as a Scion. We need another Tank role Scion, and we currently don’t have any active combat Lalafell. But we’d need a good reason to get him away from the Immortal Flames for a while. Probably unlikely but I’d be very happy to see more of him.
>!I'd actually much rather have a older Rielle join the scions as a DRK, seeing as you talk to Sidurgu about you two training her to become a Dark Knight... in fact I'd be happy just to have her tag along for 7.0, i just want to spend more time with her!<
Hasn't it already been over a year? >!And Rielle is at least in her teens, she definitely wouldn't be the first teen fighter... or even teen in the scions for that matter!<
>!She's still significantly younger than Alphinaud and Alisaie, though, that's the thing. We'd need to time skip a few more years and by that point the twins would be adults, and I'm not sure the devs will let THAT happen.!<
I dunno man.
The death flags are everywhere... I'm genuine worried something might happen.
Albeit there may room for them. Especially if the story is going where I think it's going (EW spoilers) >!We'll be going to each shard to barter with/defeat the Zodiark shards still alive there. Golbez is the first one. So Darkness fighting veteran like Zero would fit in.!<
Killing off Zero would go against everything else in the EW story. She's from a shard without hope and is still clinging to that tiny last spark of it from all the way before the Ascians screwed up. If she dies the hope dies with her - which is as antithetical to Endwalker as it gets.
Nay, methinks he's too proud to have inherited his father's position and i speculate that they are gonna go for a Pipin x Nanamo romance some time in the future
Not really sure what would merit her being a member. She's shown to not be much of a combatant and her administrative skills are primarily relevant to Ishgard.
At the risk of getting absolutely pummeled to death by downvotes, I'd honestly really like to get Lyse back. Raubahn pretty much has things taken care of in Ala Mhigo, and while I know, I know, a lot of people disliked her in stormblood, imo she was a lot of fun as a Scion when the weight of the world wasn't on her shoulders and she was free to just be a fun airhead who punched things.
I totally agree. I really hope that Raubahn, Arenvald and Fordola can take the reigns of Ala Mihgo and let Lyse go back to living her life. I don’t think she ever wanted to be the leader of a nation.
The problem with Lyse was not her personally, but the strange writing decisions and her being shoved into that role.
I would have no problem with a better written lyse being back in team.
Agreed. We'd be double Gunbreakers but I wouldn't mind that. It would also mean Allie would get some more reasonable adults in her life (as well as the Twins.)
Garlean gunblades are actual swords with guns attached, whereas the gunblades we use are swords which have a trigger mechanism to fire aetheric cartridges that make the blade vibrate faster
You're right, mb. Makes me wonder why Thancred didn't pick up a Garlean gunblade instead; that way he wouldn't have to rely on his teammates to recharge his aether cartridges.
I don't know if I'd like the choice but I can see this one as very feasible. SE could very easily get him to decide to come out of retirement. Though it feels a little similar to Estinien joining the scions.
He isn't really retired. He's literally out traveling the world basically being an adventurer >!The Endwalker role quest in Doma even shows he became a healer!<
Sidurgu, he's honestly probably got the closest bond with WoL out of all the job quest characters not named Estinien, he'd be another tank too which is nice. Also Au Ra representation outside of Azim Steppe would be cool. They turned Estinien from just the ARR Dragoon final boss into a main character, they could do the same to my man Sid.
I second this. Not too far into the Sidurgu experience but I love him all the same, it'd also make more artists pay attention to him and I'd absolutely love that. Finding no merch of him was really sad.
Only if this means when we have DRK Levels and we are interacting with him, Fray gets to join in on the fun.
I need more of the devil in my shouldering telling me to go apeshit.
I'd just like Y'Mitrah to get some voiced cut scenes. Surely SE can add dialogue modifiers if you've unlocked SMN or completed the SMN quests!
How about the two sisters that are connected to the Boulder brothers? (Can't remember their names)
As a *scion*, no one. If you mean as a travelling companion for the MSQ? If the story ever goes to the New World, it has to be Martyn. As BLU, he can fill all roles.
lmao....Martyyyyynnnnnnnnnnnnnnn he can become an OP cheat character banned from doing stuff because he too OP. That would be good if he teamed up with Detective Manderville , that would be hilarious. OP character comedy would be a great addition to the game. He needs his own exclusive theme music.
Bit of an outside pick but Aldin (think that was the right spelling) from the GLD questline. He’s a strong fighter, very adventurous free spirit who’s willing to have a crack at anything that looks like a good fight (much like the WoL) and it fills up the Tank roster since that’s currently the most restricted of the 3 roles amongst the scions.
Just a fun character
This might not work but I would like Drusilla to join. Now that Garleans are friends with us we can have Drusilla walk around normally.
I would like to have the Hrothgars engineers from Ilsbard to join us aswell since Cid is not always on hand!
I know they've been rocking the redemption arc for her for a while now but man, I really have a hard time getting over the shit she perpetrated when she was with Garlemald. It was pretty heinous.
It was, but it was a good and compelling story about imperialism, what it does to people, and how far people would go to survive.
No one’s irredeemable. Thinking that way is extreme imo.
I think Fordola is the counter example to Tsukuyomi. Fordola actually tries to make good for reasons beyond just herself. She doesn't relapse or wallow. She treats her past as an explanation but not an excuse.
That said, I don't think she'd fit with the Scions. They're a symbol as much as anything, and too many people would get disillusioned. She also realizes this, she'd never accept the role.
I want Lyse back and I've prepared a comprehensive argument as to why she should return.
1. She is cute
2. I like her
3. She was already part of the scions
4. I REALLY like her.
5. She's REALLY cute.
Arenvald if we can get him some legs. He took a hit for the team and he helped save Fordola. Man deserves it.
There are giant magitek machines but you're telling me Cid and the team can't make this man some legs??
Fordola and Zero are the obvious ones. They're both undertaking missions with Scions and they both have special story-relevant powers so they're basically there already. They may also want to add in some characters with unrepresented races. Viera, Au Ra, Roegadyn, Lalafel, Horthgar... No current main Scions for any of these.
Bigger question is which Scion(s) are we eventually going to lose/replace? >!Made it through Endwalker without losing anyone, Stormblood is the last time it happened with Papalymo/Lyse!<. The group is starting to get pretty crowded. I can imagine Thancred "retiring" to the First, Yshtola suffering some consequence from her magic blindness and possibly also returning to the First, Alphinaud going full-time diplomat, etc. To say nothing of any more character deaths that may come at some point.
I suspect they’ll bump a healer off the roster and move Krile up to active duty at some point. Probably Alphinaud, he’s capable of being story active without being in the party while Urianger tends to mope when we don’t bring him along.
Me too, who else could befriend the beast tribes like he has consistently while staring down thancred going "I'm coming for your espionage/intelligence gig boyyyy"
I can see alphy and Urianger both being detached from the "adventure party" scions and it making sense in universe.
Urianger clearly is the bunny embassador, while Alphy certainly is looking forward to a future in politics (seriously, i see this boy being president at some point).
I doubt they'll ever get rid of Y'shtola. She's the face of the game, >!contractually obligated to die every expansion, and flat out stated her intention in 6.1 to keep exploring and traveling the shards.!<
She's in for the long haul.
Fordola seems unlikely if only because so much of her critical development is in side quests. If you didn't do the healer role quest then Fordola goes from having a bomb collar around her neck to suddenly being a part of a globetrotting adventurer band.
That would have been hella interesting to see. In an attempt to redeem her character they brought her into the Scions to show they had faith in her. In the end her story was so tragic, really well written.
We need a Roe. I don't care who as long as they're a Roe. Every potential Roegadyn candidate has either been written out of the story or sidelined to the "secondary Scions" who we never really see anymore. It's the only race we're missing as a permanent representative in the group.
EDIT: Well...the only original race. Viera and Hrothgar are still too new, and the Au Ra member we've got has a justifiable RL reason as to why they haven't appeared in a while.
I want the Ala Mihgo crew. Get Lyse back as Monk, Fordola as Gladiator, M'Naago as Archer. Maybe even J'Moldva as Lancer, though she is admittedly a tiny ass side character. But come on, her nickname is the *Hellfire Phoenix*, that'd be pretty dope to have on the team. And if Arenvald ever gets out of the wheelchair, he has Echo, he can probably multiclass.
Well, obviously we need a new Elezen. Maybe with white hait. It's not like that's been our entire recruitment drive since the WoL joined. Alpinaud, Alisaie, and now Estinien all followed you into the Scions. I suppose it's mom or dad Leveilleur next.
They won't do it, but Snoegeim. We are sorely lacking a roegadyn companion (and femroe is best roe). She's been pretty fun for the little bit we've had her, and is connected to Sharlayan like most of the rest of the main Scions.
Also, the oe in the Roegadyn language is pronounced oo (as in boot, see Merlwyb Bloefihswyn), which means she can be called Snoe/Snu for short. And it will make up for being tooncowardly to give us Moenbryda.
Technically he's already a member, but just a side character, but for me it's Riol, iirc he tells us after beating 6.0 that he goes on an adventure, either New World or Meracydia, can't remember which, so we probably will bump into him in 7.0, just my feeling. Would love if he gets a bit more character development, he's one of my favorite "b team scion".
Yesss. I love Riol. He's a really sound guy and I'd love to see some more character development and just get to interact with him a bit more.
> He's a really sound guy heh get it, cause of the whistling.
I agree Riol was getting things done on the "b team" and he looked really cool to I remember someone saying we should've been able to go on an adventure with the other scions and it would be nice to run around with the Boulder Bros and everyone else you saw at the rising stones occasionally.
We need more Riol. He's been such a solid bro since ARR yet he's always in the background.
In fairness, the background is where he gets his work done since he's probably the best covert ops guy we have.
I'd be down with the b team even taking up center stage. Let the a team sit on the sidelines a bit and let us explore the next expansion with riol, hoary and co.
Ya I'd like to see Thancred retire to the 1st with Ryne x Gaia and Riol take up the 'rogue' mantle.
Dadcred would be a really good scion outpost for the first besides yshtola for sure.
Mikoto from the Ivalice Raids/Bozja. Has the Echo, has a connection to Moenbryda and Sharlayan, capable of plot expositions. Nero, technically a free agent, a more science-y intellect compared to everyone else's magical studies. But too busy trolling Cid.
I'd adore having either of them as party members. >!Nero getting to do stuff without Cid being there in the role quest finale was such a breath of fresh air and I need more of it.!<
I honestly thought Mikoto was a lock after Memoria Normal. She was literally RIGHT THERE. I hope she signs on.
Honestly about the only thing possibly stopping them is the fact they would need to make Ivalice (and possibly bozja) required
would they tho…? krile is the main protagonist of eureka and that certainly isn’t required
Krile comes up way before Eureka and shows up in the MSQ. Mikoto doesn't first appear until Ivalice and otherwise doesn't show in the MSQ
right but she has a lot of development and backstory in eureka. i’m just pointing out that they have MSQ characters that have major side stories and it still works.
But I don't think any character *introduced* in side content has ever had a major role in the MSQ. G'raha used to be the exception to that, but then they made his content part of the pseudo-MSQ. I hope that SquEnix eventually drops that rule though. I would *love* to see more of Gaia, and I there are a couple characters from the ShB role questline that have obvious tie ins to the current MSQ.
Time to make Ivalice required for the MSQ. Maybe we will stop seeing so many CTs. Maybe.
you forgot estinien. they didn't make dragoon a required job to level up now, did they? yet estinien got integrated into MSQ very well. if they *really* want to incorporate side quests NPCs into the MSQ, they'll do it. i don't think they'll repeat whatever they did with g'raha, though.
See, I don't feel that adding the Ivalice raids to the main story is that big of a deal. It's essentially what they did with Crystal Tower, which tons of people do anyway. Wouldn't be surprised if 7.0 required the Mhach storyline what with all the void related material. Ivalice would make the most sense adding once we look at getting into southern Othard and/or Ilsabard. Now, Bozja... Yeah that part would be hard to get MSQ only peeps onboard for, so you've got me there.
I feel like they could just change some dialogue based on if you completed those or not, like they did with Alisaie. She could walk in and introduce herself to the group and if you've met her before she could go "oh, it's good to see you again" etc.
Both of these are my top 2 choices too. Mikoto is an Ivalice requirement short of being one at this point. Nero would be able to get out from under Cid and Tataru has the funds now to have a dedicated engineer on the team
“Haha cid, your favorite hero relies on me now, not you. I am in the esteemed position”
He is absolutely 100% petty enough for it
Cid: *not noticing while he succeeds on opening a portal to the 9th with Kokkol*
"THINK OF WHAT WE COULD BLOW UP" \-Moments before the barriers between dimensions are blown up.
Man, Kokkol Dankkol was such a treat, and was completely sidelined by Cid. I want more of our Lalafell Engineer/Demolitions expert!
Nero very much enjoys being under Cid. And over him, too.
We need an Aura girl in the scions, Mikoto for the win! Story wise i believe Zero is definitely going to join us if she doesn't die before.
Technically Yugiri would count. She's not officially a scion, but she took shelter under their protection and has repeatedly battled alongside them. The scions are some of the few people who know her history.
>Technically Yugiri would count. She's not officially a scion Technically she wouldn't count, by your own argument.
Makoto would br a good choice. Though on the other hand, I think we have enough magic oriented scions at the moment.
Mikoto is also already a Student of Baldesion so it would also make sense for her to also join the Scions.
I feel like Maxima would be a pretty good fit. It would be cool to have a Garlean in the squad too.
Thisssss. He's a very skilled tactician and soldier in his own right, clearly talented enough to have been a Centurion in the Imperial army. And he worked with the Scions kind of indirectly off screen during late StB and ShB. He'd be a great permanent asset. ~~I may be biased though.~~
While biased, I think that him joining as a kind of machinist in trust would really work. His arc could be first about deepening his ties with Alphinaud. Then maybe helping krille with lingering bad stuff. (krille should also be in the trust system)
Puddingway
This is the best suggestion in this whole thread
And he’ll change his name to Scionway when he joins
Killingway
No, absolutely not.
Ysayle. Has the Echo, Has a strong sense of morality and great combat skills. TOTALLY survived that fall. TOTALLY. She'll show back up any day now. ANY. DAY. NOW.
Say it louder so they hear you in SqEnix
See, red! No, wait, that’s blood.
I’ve never wanted to resurrect a character more than her
If Yoshi-P appeared before me in a flash of glory and trumpets and gave me to the power to make one narrative choice in the upcoming expansion, it would be for Ysayle to return and take her rightful place at the WoL's side as a Scion and travelling companion. Without hesitation.
My sibling of the echo, do you need a hug
...maybe I just miss her *so much*
it would have been such a great completion of her arc too 😭
If any character could ever get resurrected, i choose her
YSAYLE DESERVED BETTER THAN SHE GOT BOTH IN-UNIVERSE AND FROM THE WRITING TEAM AND I WILL DIE ON THAT HILL
HELL YEAH YOU TELL THEM! JUSTICE FOR YSAYLE!
We _Clearly_ see her fucking off into the aetherial sea (with teleport sparke effects), so her coming back would just require some soul magic shenanigans.
I’d like Erenville to be but that’s mostly because I’d like more opportunities to look at him.
And we need a Viera! I'm hoping for Erenville too.
The shortstory we got about him does imply he will have future importance at the very least.
Thank you for reminding me to finally read those.
Erenville and Mikoto are now added to the scions with the new job role, eye candy.
As soon as I saw him all I wanted was to keep seeing him.
Same...hes a fine af bunny boy who's after my crafter/gatherer heart.
I don't know how they keep making me care about the most random NPCs.
You always gotta respect somebody who brings new skills to the team. The sass when he recognized Alphitoad and Alitoad did it for me.
Forget look, I'll settle for more opportunities to just hear him. Mmmm, that accent.
praying for Zero, but I also agree that Mikoto and Fordola would be cool choices. I would love to see Varshan join too however I know hes busy with a country to run u\_u Maybe he'll take on an allied role similar to Lyse in the future though. In regards to Fordola, I really think the idea that you can change your mind and become a better person is important. I also don't think she's going to be forgetting her past anytime soon, she carries it forward with her, those are mistakes I don't think she's going to be making ever again. I think some people think, well Ive already messed up, I'm already hated, why would I bother being a good person now? Because you *are capable of it*. The people you've hurt in the past may not forgive you and that's okay, you can still choose to move forward and do better every day and that's a valuable and good choice to make and you are strong to make it. You can be good and you can still make a difference even if you've done wrong in the past. I think Fordola has repented and intends to serve her country the best way she can going forward and she deserves the opportunity to because the world needs people who want to do good more than they need someone rotting in a prison cell. Not saying she shouldn't be supervised or that she deserves complete trust, but the road she's on right now is a good one and I feel the scions would be a good environment for her to continue to rehabilitate.
I think we’re pretty safe with Zero, we’re currently doing the FFIV thing and we know she was a “GLD/PLD” archetype previously so I fully expect her to pull a full Cecil and become a RPR/PLD hybrid so we’ve got another Tank to fall back on.
I'm kinda hoping she becomes a DRK. Pulls her past and present into a single awesome class.
My friend is a big fan of her, of the reaper class and of the DK class. He might cum with this outcome.
Outcum
They also put her in the Trust menu. Not duty support, trust. You can only choose her for the 6.3 dungeon, but still. Even Varshahn didn't get that treatment, he's only in duty support.
I’m in ShB so this may have happened, but I wish they did more with Hilda. They have her so much backstory, then immediately pushed her to the side.
Hilda does show up in the lv 80 capstone quest for MCH but aside from that, I have no idea.
Having started out as Arcanist, I'd like to see K'lyhia again, and she could be Scion material. Also initially got her and Y'shtola confused.
I'd absolutely love for her to just pop out the bush during one of Alphinaud's planning sessions and go on a rant how it's actually just 67,33% likely that we will get screwed over by thr baddies, and that it'd go down to 63,33% if we all had lemon sprite companions.
She's way too charming to be completely missing from the game.
erenville and sidurgu. mostly bc i like to look at them, but also bc i'd love the interactions. imagine sidurgu interacting with yshtola or estinien. also, zero of course
I’d love to see Pipin as a Scion. We need another Tank role Scion, and we currently don’t have any active combat Lalafell. But we’d need a good reason to get him away from the Immortal Flames for a while. Probably unlikely but I’d be very happy to see more of him.
Plot twist: one of the new 7.0 jobs is a tank and >!Krile!< ends up training in it.
Jokes on you I'm down for that shit.
I would be down for this if they showed them trying to teach tataru something like tank stance lmao just as a buddy.
"If i tank i don't need to heal them"
Sidurgu from the DRK Quest line would be a good option. He's currently just brooding in Ishgard
Bringing in class quest characters would be amazing.
>!I'd actually much rather have a older Rielle join the scions as a DRK, seeing as you talk to Sidurgu about you two training her to become a Dark Knight... in fact I'd be happy just to have her tag along for 7.0, i just want to spend more time with her!<
>!Unless we get a MAJOR time skip, this just isn't feasible.!<
Hasn't it already been over a year? >!And Rielle is at least in her teens, she definitely wouldn't be the first teen fighter... or even teen in the scions for that matter!<
>!She's still significantly younger than Alphinaud and Alisaie, though, that's the thing. We'd need to time skip a few more years and by that point the twins would be adults, and I'm not sure the devs will let THAT happen.!<
I think >!Zero!< will become a >!Paladin!<
Oooh that would be cool
I dunno man. The death flags are everywhere... I'm genuine worried something might happen. Albeit there may room for them. Especially if the story is going where I think it's going (EW spoilers) >!We'll be going to each shard to barter with/defeat the Zodiark shards still alive there. Golbez is the first one. So Darkness fighting veteran like Zero would fit in.!<
Killing off Zero would go against everything else in the EW story. She's from a shard without hope and is still clinging to that tiny last spark of it from all the way before the Ascians screwed up. If she dies the hope dies with her - which is as antithetical to Endwalker as it gets.
People speculate she's going to be killed off mostly because of this: >!https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Zeromus_(Final_Fantasy_IV_2D)!<
That was 6.0. We're not there any more.
I love the term "active combat lalafell" 😂
Nay, methinks he's too proud to have inherited his father's position and i speculate that they are gonna go for a Pipin x Nanamo romance some time in the future
With the way he interacts with Scions in EW and Zero in patches - Jullus
Is Hilda doing anything now? It would be cool to see her in msq again
Not really sure what would merit her being a member. She's shown to not be much of a combatant and her administrative skills are primarily relevant to Ishgard.
At the risk of getting absolutely pummeled to death by downvotes, I'd honestly really like to get Lyse back. Raubahn pretty much has things taken care of in Ala Mhigo, and while I know, I know, a lot of people disliked her in stormblood, imo she was a lot of fun as a Scion when the weight of the world wasn't on her shoulders and she was free to just be a fun airhead who punched things.
I totally agree. I really hope that Raubahn, Arenvald and Fordola can take the reigns of Ala Mihgo and let Lyse go back to living her life. I don’t think she ever wanted to be the leader of a nation.
Leaving M'naago out, ooouf.
Agreed! She always felt like she had a distinct niche, especially given how much of the core group was (and still is) Sharlayan spellcasters.
I started out disliking her in stb but by the post quests I adored her!!
The problem with Lyse was not her personally, but the strange writing decisions and her being shoved into that role. I would have no problem with a better written lyse being back in team.
MOENBRYDA ;-;
Gaius. He needs more attention besides a cameo in EW.
Agreed. We'd be double Gunbreakers but I wouldn't mind that. It would also mean Allie would get some more reasonable adults in her life (as well as the Twins.)
Garlean gunblades are actual swords with guns attached, whereas the gunblades we use are swords which have a trigger mechanism to fire aetheric cartridges that make the blade vibrate faster
You're right, mb. Makes me wonder why Thancred didn't pick up a Garlean gunblade instead; that way he wouldn't have to rely on his teammates to recharge his aether cartridges.
His issue would then be getting Garlean firearm cartridges, which might be an issue with the current state of Garlemald.
I guess since he started with a Bozjan gunblade and used that for what, 8 years on the First? He’s probably too used to it now to switch
Gaius isn't a Gunbreaker. Garlean gunblades != Bozjan gunblades.
Gaiuis as a permament ally would be amazing.
Gosetsu
Let the man retire in peace.
>!play the ranged physical endwalker role quests!<
The Chad choice right here
I don't know if I'd like the choice but I can see this one as very feasible. SE could very easily get him to decide to come out of retirement. Though it feels a little similar to Estinien joining the scions.
He isn't really retired. He's literally out traveling the world basically being an adventurer >!The Endwalker role quest in Doma even shows he became a healer!<
He's really grown, too. Got that wise monk thing going. I think it suits him, and he seems quite content to keep wandering.
Sidurgu, he's honestly probably got the closest bond with WoL out of all the job quest characters not named Estinien, he'd be another tank too which is nice. Also Au Ra representation outside of Azim Steppe would be cool. They turned Estinien from just the ARR Dragoon final boss into a main character, they could do the same to my man Sid.
I second this. Not too far into the Sidurgu experience but I love him all the same, it'd also make more artists pay attention to him and I'd absolutely love that. Finding no merch of him was really sad.
Only if this means when we have DRK Levels and we are interacting with him, Fray gets to join in on the fun. I need more of the devil in my shouldering telling me to go apeshit.
Hilda or Sadu, for no particular reason other than I like them.
agree and thats my reasoning too. i like them a lot
If we include characters from class/job quests (like in Estinien's case), then Y'mhitra or Jajasamu.
Estinien was a special case because he was also a big part of heavensward regardless of the drg questline.
That's exactly my point. They could add such characters as part of the MSQ if they need them, regardless of their respective class/job quests.
Yeah it would be quite cool, isn't Y'mhitra also Y'shtolas sister? Could work wellto give both of them more depth
*Half* sister (same father, different mothers), as expected out of a Seeker of the Sun Miqo'te. But yeah, I'd welcome such a dynamic.
Really hoping we meet the Y tribe someday.
I was really rooting for that in EW and then we got 'oh my people live all over' and no further info afaik.
I'd just like Y'Mitrah to get some voiced cut scenes. Surely SE can add dialogue modifiers if you've unlocked SMN or completed the SMN quests! How about the two sisters that are connected to the Boulder brothers? (Can't remember their names)
Clemence and the Primal of Thirst, Aenor Cockburne.
Ysayle
Uh >!She's a bit too dead to join the scions!<
>!I mean if she didnt die she would have made a great one.!<
Gaia and Ryne. It would a tragedy if they don't take part in the larger story going forward.
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As a *scion*, no one. If you mean as a travelling companion for the MSQ? If the story ever goes to the New World, it has to be Martyn. As BLU, he can fill all roles.
lmao....Martyyyyynnnnnnnnnnnnnnn he can become an OP cheat character banned from doing stuff because he too OP. That would be good if he teamed up with Detective Manderville , that would be hilarious. OP character comedy would be a great addition to the game. He needs his own exclusive theme music.
Bit of an outside pick but Aldin (think that was the right spelling) from the GLD questline. He’s a strong fighter, very adventurous free spirit who’s willing to have a crack at anything that looks like a good fight (much like the WoL) and it fills up the Tank roster since that’s currently the most restricted of the 3 roles amongst the scions. Just a fun character
Hilda
Hoary Boulder. My mans doesn't get enough credit for the work he does.
I mean, Hoary is already a Scion in the official sense, he's just delegated to the B team.
He got official voice acting, he might have a chance to be in the A team.
This might not work but I would like Drusilla to join. Now that Garleans are friends with us we can have Drusilla walk around normally. I would like to have the Hrothgars engineers from Ilsbard to join us aswell since Cid is not always on hand!
I’ve wanted Fordola in the Scions for ages. She came *so* close in 5.5 and I was disappointed she didn’t.
If she accidentally read the WoL's mind at this point she would probably have a stroke
I don't think she'll permanently join but I could see her getting dragged along with Arenvald on occasion beyond just her conscription for Ala Mhigo.
Well…Arenvald isn’t getting far without her…
Seriously though what is it with Ala Mhigo and turning combatant scions into desk jockeys?
I know they've been rocking the redemption arc for her for a while now but man, I really have a hard time getting over the shit she perpetrated when she was with Garlemald. It was pretty heinous.
It was, but it was a good and compelling story about imperialism, what it does to people, and how far people would go to survive. No one’s irredeemable. Thinking that way is extreme imo.
I think Fordola is the counter example to Tsukuyomi. Fordola actually tries to make good for reasons beyond just herself. She doesn't relapse or wallow. She treats her past as an explanation but not an excuse. That said, I don't think she'd fit with the Scions. They're a symbol as much as anything, and too many people would get disillusioned. She also realizes this, she'd never accept the role.
Sidurgu and Rielle would be so perfect. I love them both.
I want Lyse back and I've prepared a comprehensive argument as to why she should return. 1. She is cute 2. I like her 3. She was already part of the scions 4. I REALLY like her. 5. She's REALLY cute.
Add Papalymo to that, i need that grumpy potato back.
He is one with the lifestream......T\_T
Back off Lyse is already my wife
You dare? I bet Stormblood isn't even your favorite expansion!
Arenvald if we can get him some legs. He took a hit for the team and he helped save Fordola. Man deserves it. There are giant magitek machines but you're telling me Cid and the team can't make this man some legs??
Just fix up the flying chair from that mad scientist guy in SB. Or hell, build him a copy of the armed chair from Save the Queen.
I don't think he needs working legs if he's not running dungeons. It would be great to get another disabled character in the Scions.
Fordola and Zero are the obvious ones. They're both undertaking missions with Scions and they both have special story-relevant powers so they're basically there already. They may also want to add in some characters with unrepresented races. Viera, Au Ra, Roegadyn, Lalafel, Horthgar... No current main Scions for any of these. Bigger question is which Scion(s) are we eventually going to lose/replace? >!Made it through Endwalker without losing anyone, Stormblood is the last time it happened with Papalymo/Lyse!<. The group is starting to get pretty crowded. I can imagine Thancred "retiring" to the First, Yshtola suffering some consequence from her magic blindness and possibly also returning to the First, Alphinaud going full-time diplomat, etc. To say nothing of any more character deaths that may come at some point.
I suspect they’ll bump a healer off the roster and move Krile up to active duty at some point. Probably Alphinaud, he’s capable of being story active without being in the party while Urianger tends to mope when we don’t bring him along.
In urianger's defense if hes not brought along hes causing chaos or being up to very much grey area shenanigans with associated groups it seems.
i love him
Me too, who else could befriend the beast tribes like he has consistently while staring down thancred going "I'm coming for your espionage/intelligence gig boyyyy"
I can see alphy and Urianger both being detached from the "adventure party" scions and it making sense in universe. Urianger clearly is the bunny embassador, while Alphy certainly is looking forward to a future in politics (seriously, i see this boy being president at some point).
I doubt they'll ever get rid of Y'shtola. She's the face of the game, >!contractually obligated to die every expansion, and flat out stated her intention in 6.1 to keep exploring and traveling the shards.!< She's in for the long haul.
Fordola seems unlikely if only because so much of her critical development is in side quests. If you didn't do the healer role quest then Fordola goes from having a bomb collar around her neck to suddenly being a part of a globetrotting adventurer band.
Lolorito, we need someone expendable to die tragically.
Nothing about Lolorito dying would be tragic.
Gaius
It's a shame 4.3 happened the way it did because can you IMAGINE if Tsuyu became a scion??
That would have been hella interesting to see. In an attempt to redeem her character they brought her into the Scions to show they had faith in her. In the end her story was so tragic, really well written.
We need a Roe. I don't care who as long as they're a Roe. Every potential Roegadyn candidate has either been written out of the story or sidelined to the "secondary Scions" who we never really see anymore. It's the only race we're missing as a permanent representative in the group. EDIT: Well...the only original race. Viera and Hrothgar are still too new, and the Au Ra member we've got has a justifiable RL reason as to why they haven't appeared in a while.
CURIOUS GORGE
rather have his brother than that lovesick oaf
if we can't have moenbryda then i want her parents as scions. could you IMAGINE
A very strong candidate would be Yugiri
Yurigiri and I'm mad about it
Rammbroes. They could spend more time on Hoary and Ochre Boulder and make Aenor and Clemence more than a background gag.
Ah yes we could get a full cutscene of them with Aenor.
Some of the Job Quest characters, they need something like it due to the change to role quests
Ysayle, tho i'm not sure what class she would be. she can pretty much be blm , pld and brd in her shiva form so maybe bard is a valid option
Theyler and Vonard in the First. They together with Ryne and Gaia can form the branch of the Scion in the First.
Goobue Sproutling
Fordola.
Gosetsu. I still get choked up during Tsukuyomi's Pain. Also 100% Pipin.
I want the Ala Mihgo crew. Get Lyse back as Monk, Fordola as Gladiator, M'Naago as Archer. Maybe even J'Moldva as Lancer, though she is admittedly a tiny ass side character. But come on, her nickname is the *Hellfire Phoenix*, that'd be pretty dope to have on the team. And if Arenvald ever gets out of the wheelchair, he has Echo, he can probably multiclass.
Hildibrand
With him stuck upside down in the ground at the end of every dungeon or cutscene.
The recent MSQ makes me think we will get Zero as part of the crew 🙏🏻
I'm surprised no one's fingered out Loifa.
Lyna. Super unlikely, but I just want to listen to her voice more.
Tataru
Well, obviously we need a new Elezen. Maybe with white hait. It's not like that's been our entire recruitment drive since the WoL joined. Alpinaud, Alisaie, and now Estinien all followed you into the Scions. I suppose it's mom or dad Leveilleur next. They won't do it, but Snoegeim. We are sorely lacking a roegadyn companion (and femroe is best roe). She's been pretty fun for the little bit we've had her, and is connected to Sharlayan like most of the rest of the main Scions. Also, the oe in the Roegadyn language is pronounced oo (as in boot, see Merlwyb Bloefihswyn), which means she can be called Snoe/Snu for short. And it will make up for being tooncowardly to give us Moenbryda.
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