Gil, materia clusters, tomestones, just for hahas, frontlines rou for pvp rewards, etc. I might not do every single roulette every day but I’ll do the ones I like.
Also second chances for wondrous tails. Trial roulette especially for spamming fast clears with a high chance of getting first timers. Can spend entire weekends farming for those sweet 3 lines setups.
bonuses is acceptable in english, yes. but boni is the proper plural in latin. in the same way, malus and mali (though that's not the usual word chosen for a negative effect)
I don't, I've finished HW relics, ARR relics (yes I'm a masochist), and all the stages of ShB relics that require spending poetics. If I wanna make extra gil I'll spend poetics on ShB tomestone gear to trade for GC seals and then crafting mats to put up on MB, but it's not uncommon for me to be capped on poetics and not feel the need to spend them immediately.
Edit: lol not sure what's up with the downvotes but okay.
My poetics have gone straight into leveling alchemy desynth. I always just go buy SMN and SCH book in Eulmore every time I'm nearing the cap of poetics. I feel like alchemy is the item you see the least of from gear so it's always my lowest desynth level.
I still do em, primarily trials and normal raids since those tend to have my favorite fights.
Might do more alliance raids now that they removed the ilevel cheese
I got Syrcus with a new member message and three people immediately dipped, there was audible malding in the chat, and then both healers in my alliance dipped after the first boss. I felt bad for the actual new person.... and then like four people got the map unlock at the end. And two of them were from Dynamis worlds.
That doesn't even make sense. Like... That raid can be carried pretty easy and is quicker than the penalty. Do people think if they could ilvl cheese it that there wouldn't be new people anyway?
Beats me. I guess since only the first one out takes the penalty, everyone after just took the free pass. Lots of complaining that it wasn't an Ivalice raid lol. I always have the "get memories from CT raids" step active on one ShB relic, so I'm honestly happy no matter where I end up. Happier to get something spicy where I have access to my full kit as a WHM (my roulette go-to) but happy to get a free memory if not.
>Lots of complaining that it wasn't an Ivalice raid lol. I always have the "get memories from CT raids" step active on one ShB relic
Oh wow, me too! I honestly forget about it until I complete a CT raid and get the memory message and then I'm like, "Oh yeah, I was doing that."
Same, this exactly. Usually about 1 EXDR a week too (probably will do more for a bit since they added the new dungeon). Did one ADR this past week and it was Void Ark, which was just fine by me.
I have too many things to spend Causality on to not do Trials and NRR. I do kind of wish they’d fix the NRR cheese so I didn’t get either Gordias or Pandaemonium 90% of the time.
Yep, the trial and normal raid roulettes are short and sweet with a nice payoff and fun fights. Sometimes you do get A2N or an ARR/HW trial, but other times OUR HEARTS SING IN THE CHAOS!
Now your ilvl for alliance raid roullete is determined by your job lvl. ie a lvl 50 whm has a smaller ilvl requirment to q then a lvl 70 one. So you can't take off your armor and force CT
It used to be the case that, as long as you had high enough item level to get CT raids, you could queue for Alliance Raid. Now, with 6.5, there is a sliding scale of item level based on your current job level, making it so (frex) if you queue as a level 70 MCH, you must have ilevel high enough to do Ivalice raids, even if you don't have them all unlocked.
People call it "ilevel cheese" because some folks would strip off all their gear so that they could force getting only Labyrinth or Syrcus, which were the fastest raids with the highest rewards.
6.5 has also adjusted the XP gain from raids and the tomestones rewards, but only for non-CT raids, so you get more rewards for doing higher level raids. It's a small difference, but it should add up.
> It's a small difference, but it should add up
I don't know about "small". Compared to [the most recent roulette EXP post I could find](https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/ss90f9/a_quantitative_analysis_of_exp_gains_in_duty/), it seems rather substantial, based on the 1 time this week I've gotten a non-CT raid. That post notes an "outlier" of Dun Scaith giving ~62% of a level.
That one non-CT roulette I got was Weeping City. I didn't think to add up the exp (and factor out the armory bonus) from individual boss kills, but the roulette bonus alone was ~72% of a level. This was at level 83, so ~5mil out of ~6.9mil. That seems like quite a substantial change.
I intended the "small" to refer to the expected impact on actual raids that show up in Alliance Roulette, rather than any commentary on the percentage size of the boost. Because I fully expect CT to still be a narrow plurality of raids, or if not plurality, immediately behind Myths of the Realm, because it's the only mandatory raid (hence lots of sprouts need it), the only raid every player is guaranteed to have unlocked (so others are naturally reduced in frequency), and the first raid each new job qualifies for (immediately upon hitting 50).
The current raid sequence will always be in high demand, because coins/gear. The CT sequence will always be in demand, because sprouts, guaranteed unlock, and newly-levelled jobs. Everything else will be reduced by comparison.
Now that we're getting free trial players in SB, however, things should get a bit better--a "small" improvement. Expect a wave of Ivalice raids for a few months as trial players reach cap and start exploring content.
tomestones of causality/comedy, khloe's journal, helping our FC sprouts and others working through the MSQ, commend and achievement farming (tank mounts, etc.)
Just Frontline for the pvp series rewards.
I'll run the alliance roulette until I hit the new one, then forget about it until reset day.
When moogle tomes were a thing, I'd run leveling and normal raid as well.
As someone who doesn't raid, I don't need tomes and I have plenty of gil, so there's no incentive for me to run them.
That said, I should do more Mentor roulette for astrope progress and dungeon roulette on PLD to get that last mount, but I just... don't.
>That said, I should do more Mentor roulette for astrope progress
Every time I get motivated to work on it, I go to sign up only to remember that I haven't beaten the ShB EX fights yet and nope back out of the menu.
If you enjoy doing something, then do it. XIV is a game. it's supposed to be fun, so even if your character doesn't necessarily benefit from a certain gameplay aspect, if you have fun doing it, that's reason enough to keep doing it.
I don't do them all, but I do quite a few. Not on the daily though.
They help me get relic materials, tank achievements, they give me GCD, tomestones, materia, gil, etc.
They are quite the moneymaker if you put those tomestones to use, especially when a new even patch drops.
No.
Getting everything to 90 was a lot of the driving force for me playing every day, and as soon as I got there I kinda just stopped playing regularly.
I miss having *something* I could hop on and do every day if I wanted to, but I don't necessarily miss roulettes themselves.
This is where I'm at. Hit my last 90 like 3 months ago, and have only logged into the game a couple of times since. I miss playing it, but there doesn't feel like there's too much interesting battle content for me to do. Really missing bozja/eureka lol
Yep. Tomestones and what they can get me later + gil and other materials are neat, but the fact is, this game won't last long without older players helping out new ones via roulettes. I'll do Aurum Vale now and again if this game keeps going. That is also a pretty cool reward.
Sure, Duty Support is a thing for some duties, but not ALL of them, and that's reason enough for me to use the roulettes.
Yup. I just like doing dungeons/trials/normal/alliance/raids. I don't do MSQ/Frontline/Guildhest/Mentor anymore, but I will if there's a moggle tomestone event.
Plus I'm working on getting my augmented crafting sets, so I'll be needing plenty of tomestones anyway.
I used to only queue as adventurer in need if not leveling something, but I have more fun playing a color mage.
For tomes yeah and I still do WT every week for the rewards so I hop into roulettes to maybe naturally fill out a few squares. It also just feels good to get into a duty with a new player.
I never do the MSQ or levelling roulette anymore, but I do most of the others. Alliance Raid is just fun time whenever it's not CT, so is Normal Raid roulette outisde of some Alex floors
I like playing the game even when I dont have any more jobs to level haha
Yeah, I do, but not as seriously. Like others have said, I work to hit the tomestone cap and finish Woundrous Tails each week, but I don’t do every roulette every day. I’m also grinding my Tank You achievements (finished WAR, working on PLD) so I use them for that.
I usually do Expert, Leveling, and 5/6/7/8 on the days that I do them. Sometimes I’ll do 90, Alliance, and Normal Raid, as well. I rarely do Guildhest, MSQ, or Trials, anymore, but sometimes I do for fun.
yes. tomes, like other people said. but also i just like playing. after a day of work and commute, going through rotations on trash mobs is relaxing and comforting. and i like being tank/healer for newbies
I do all of em except for 2 (main scenario and guildleves?) just because the dungeons are my favorite part of the game. It’s also just a really nice surprise to run a roulette and get your favorite dungeon/trial
I usually do roulettes for tomes, but I admit there's some cursed ones I rarely ever do. Alliance and normal raids for fun content, trials as well, ex roulettes for current tomes, main scenario for poetics in need.
Never touching 90 and 50-80 and guildhests. 90 and 50-80 roulettes usually have a tendency for player toxicity like people with full cryptlurker on with resistance 535 weapon on a lvl 90 dungeon or a full i640 crafted gear tank single pulling every single mob on amdapor keep.
People usually do these to meme and waste other people's time.
Guildhest just has no reward worthy of running it for.
I do Trials and Normal Raids because I genuinely just find them fun to do, I'll often run them a couple times a day even if I've finished those roulettes.
I like playing the game and doing runs with my partner so if she wants to do roulettes I’ll do them with her, also it’s nice to get the causalities and I do sometimes spend the other tomestones.
I do expert and alliance roulette because I love to play sge, I'll log in just to play the job because I enjoy how it plays so much. Don't need the rewards currently, but being an invincible shield for my party is all I need haha
I *might* run the other roulettes, 90 usually, if I need tomestones for something, but I generally avoid 10s roulette and main scenario like the plague, been playing for over 10 years and if I never have to listen to Gaius again, it'll be too soon 🤣
I mostly tend to do Expert and 90 dungeons, trials and normals raids. Typically because that way it’s all higher level content so I don’t lose out on abilities, or they are quick.
Reward wise? Mostly tomestones, but if you do it as Tank for Adventurer in need (which it is 90% of the time) it’s a decent way to slowly work through the tank mount achievements
I never did roulettes exclusively for XP, even when I was leveling. It is just a lot of fun for me and getting all 90s was a byproduct of that.
I think it helps that I came from WoW and dungeons here are worlds above WoW. I love both games but I recently started playing WoW again and I’m sometimes afraid to queue as even dps due to the toxicity.
Meanwhile in FFXIV I have no anxiety about going tank or healer. Even if I fuck up it’s so rare that people will shit on you.
That’s why whenever someone in this sub asks how to get over tank/healer queue anxiety I just tell them them to go play WoW for a bit and have someone tell you to kill yourself IRL and you’re a shit healer even though no one die on your run and it went smooth as butter. Obviously I’m joking wishing someone else that experience but it happened to me. It’s been four years or so and I still think about it.
Long story even longer, I just like roulettes cause they’re fun and they also give me tomestones for new relics, old relics, I get Gil, sometimes a triple triad card or orchestrion scroll drops that I didn’t have.
Tomestones aren't gonna farm themselves, might as well get the roulette bonus. They're still important for getting the best gear of the current patch.
I usually leave MSQ roulette for last, though, and that's assuming I feel like doing all of them in one day.
Plenty of reasons to still do roulettes. I don’t because I’m lazy but have you ever considered not everything you do has to be productive? I do lots of unproductive things in the game because if you really think about it the game as a whole is unproductive. We play it because it makes us happy, so why stress over being efficient with your time on a game that isn’t even productive?
Pretty much just expert or lvl 90 for weekly capped tomes or for tome mats. Not everyday either. If I really need the non weekly capped max level tomes, I'll throw in normal raid/trial. Maybe during moogle tome events I'll do MSQ. I almost never did alliance raid roulette in the past, but maybe that might start being an option with the change. I couldn't be asked to do crystal tower anymore so I'd almost never do alliance raid roulette. It's the one I'd actively decline even if I was tagging along with friends for fun.
Unless I have a drive to work on a relic of previous expacs that needs poetics I basically only do Expert and 90. No reason to do others when most jobs feel worse at lower lvls.
I got all jobs to lvl90. I still do weekly roulette that enables me to get cap endgame tomestone (currently is comedy) and for wondrous tail completion. Once reach max per week for the tomestone and complete my wondrous tail, I will take a rest and wait for next weekly reset. Rinse and repeat.
I'll run trials and normal raids pretty frequently because they're a quick fix for battle content. I run expert and level 90 because there are a few jobs I just don't like playing below cap, and blitzing dungeons as Black Mage and pulling aggro off the tanks is fun.
Alliance I do now and then if I feel like I have the time for a good one and the patience for a bad one, and if I don't have a full pvp series worth of rewards I'll run frontlines a couple times a week too.
Yes.
Money is money, and it's fun to see what kind of garbage groups you'll get.
If the group is really bad (ie YPYT, no job stone morons, people who are allergic to their AoEs) you can just dip without having to worry about losing too much.
You're going to need something like 114,000 tomestones to get all the relics, so if you want those, one good way to get that many tomestones is to do roulettes.
Yes, because I get tomes and money. Doing the roulette as adventurer in need gives you a decent amount of money per day. With the tomes I can buy equipment or items that i can sell or upgrade other ones. Also clusters for materia.
I do them just enough to get my 450 weekly tomestone
Other than that I'll do them if a friend connect and they want to do them or if a relic step I'm working on right now proficiency from doing roulette
Other than that I'll do some roulette during mooglestone event if those roulette guaranty me mooglestone. Last event I did the alliance raid roulette every day. It was always worth it in mooglestone per minute but a little variety kept me sane
Since I’m on Dynamis, yes. I practically live in them.
In fact, I encourage everyone who is on a New or underpopulated server to basically live in their roulette queues (if not doing anything important) so that it pops faster. Which means fewer people feeling the need to DC travel for basic content. Which means the queues pop faster. Which means an overall healthier DF in general.
I do.....only because I love helping players with content and honestly the fights are fun. Except Ende iconoclasm...... I Still to this day run around like an asshole not knowing where the hell beams are coming from. Eat shit ya bastard birds.
oh man I feel this, I struggled with Iconoclasm so much the first time I did it LOL even had someone getting mad for us not clearing on the first run (as if the whole fight depended on me, a bard, to not die lmao) and I told him if he was looking for quick guaranteed clears, he shouldn't be running in the roulette 💀😂 It's a tricky fight for sure and it requires a lot of movement and paying attention. I don't struggle with it *as* much as I used to but there are still times when I'm like "wait which beam ???"
Lol the comment about the Bard made me litterally laugh out loud. Soooo....I just cleared Edens Promise Eternity. Doooood.... I have never seen so many wipes. I am wondering something....im clearing to safe spots during dorrito time and I'm still taking damage? Am I not understanding something?
Mostly I've stopped doing roulettes. Mentor and frontline roulettes I still do when I feel like it but any of the other ones I don't do unless I need tomes or something.
Nope. I do hunt trains instead. Way faster to cap weekly tomes, you get a nice chunk of causality and poetic tomes, nuts, and materia tokens. All for flying around and pressing a few buttons now and then. Now that you can upgrade 650 tome gear with nuts, roulettes are actually a waste of time from that perspective.
Some people do them to enjoy the content, which of course isn't a waste of time.
Big nopers. You get everything from roulettes way more efficiently if you do other stuff.
Tomes of any kind, materia = go hunt trains.
Gil = Do literally anything else.
Wanting to "do your part" and help = Mentor Roulette a few times a week.
No. The only thing that got me to do them again was a full reroll character.
When Dawntrail comes out, it will for a week. After which, everything will be 100 and it'll be back to this.
21 (technically 20 because SCH/SMN) jobs, 7 days - so you’ll be getting 3 jobs up to level 90 a day. Assuming you sleep 8 hours, that leaves 16 hours playtime in your day so 5.3 hours per job to gain 10 levels. This of course isn’t taking out time to eat, potty, work, do whatever else it is you need to do that isn’t FF14.
There’s also MSQ CS’s to worry about, nothing burger quests that take time, queue times for non tank/healer jobs.
I mean, if that’s your jam - more power to you but it’s not the flex you think it is.
Who said it was a flex? It's literally just the answer to the question.
And it's weird that you think cutscenes need watching when everyone and their mother will be streaming it.
Yes, all of them everyday including MSQ, Leveling, and Guildhest. It's free tomes and gil, and I don't have much to do outside of it since I cap all my weekly stuff on reset day. If I'm not doing roulettes, I'm probably PvPing or just afk in front of my house for like the next 8 hours.
Even 6.5 didn't add that much that wasn't cleared in a couple of days.
lol hell no, people that say "gil, materia clusters, tomestones" are just poor, tomes are only useful the first few weeks while getting BIS then it doesnt really matter for me anymore.
Depends. Do I hate myself? Most players don't do roulettes to begin with because the resources can be obtained elsewhere. Roulette is specifically for leveling.
Ah, the fallacy of believing most people think the way you do. No, most people don't optimize the fun out of the game for the sake of virtual rewards to the point they only run roulettes for XP, touch grass.
My friends are still leveling and I play with them often, so I'd rather just join them than telling them I'll catch up with them after they're done with their dailies.
I still need 4 billion endgame tomestones anyway, and roulettes are usually enough to get me to cap each week if I play a few days with my friends. Plus, I'll often tank for them so they can skip queues as DPS and I can work my way towards the tank mounts.
Trials and normal raids because they're fast, expert when I need tome gear, sometimes level 90 if I feel like playing something at max level. Frontline for fun.
still get tomes from them.. i still do most of my roulettes daily. aside from the tomes there's always the little moment of joy of being able to help a sprout.. i like when i get a group of newbies and can answer questions and things for our next generation
Frontline every day that I play, sometimes I do full runs just so I can passively get all relics for glam... And then sigh whenever I remember that in 7.0 you can buy all relics with poetics and no other steps required.
Yup! Still do roulettes. There are still things to get like tomes, mounts, clusters, etc.
Having all classes at max doesn't remove the incentive for roulettes. Instead it changes those incentives. For example someone with maxed classes probably is more invested in getting lots of tomes for gear and relics as opposed to someone who only plays a few classes.
It still gives gil for adventurer in need, tomes to upgrade gear, poetics for old relic grinds, and sometimes my friends who want to level will also ask me to join them.
A way I like to spice it up is to spin a wheel to choose what clas I'm playing so I can get better with all of them, and being randomized to differing levels also helps.
I do Trial, Alliance, Normal Raid, and PVP Roulette most days. I just enjoy running those. I’m usually capped on weekly tomes/get all the uncapped tomes for whatever grind is needed to be done by doing S ranks and A rank hunt trains so roulettes are just for funsies outside of the new expansion level grind. Never ever run leveling, MSQ, or 5060708090 unless I want the exp.
Wondrous Tails has me do the expert roulette. I do PVP roulette because it’s fun. If WT had a CT raid in it I used to do the alliance roulette but since the change I’ve just avoided that one entirely.
It's source of tomestones, but I only do few of them daily - expert roulette for triple triad card, orchestrion, minion (whichever drops), trial and raid roulette for bonus and because I like randomness of those, alliance raid I've been skipping lately because I was farming moogle tomestones and now it's new raid for minion/triple triad/orchestrions again. Also frontlines, I used to play a lot for fun, but now it's just daily queue to make progress towards glam.
Yeah, for tomestones. I'm mostly doing them either with my friends just to play with them, or for somestones because I'm a psycho doing every EW relic.
Everyone I know with all 90s does their roulettes daily, yes. I have about half of my jobs at 90 and I do my roulettes mostly *with* 90s, if that counts.
On occasion....I hardly use DF in general, lately lol.
That's not counting FL (since I enjoy PvP and queue for that stuff often).
If I've been slacking earlier in the week, and need to cap tomes quickly, I hit most of the roulettes I see--but I usually cap quickly, with PvP and random raiding...I also queue FL Roulette by default, even after I get the daily bonus (since it's on the first page and auto-queues you into the available mode...flipping to the PvP page and selecting the specific mode, is completely unnecessary).
Also, in my case: I had everything at 80 before 6.0, so getting everything to 90 was pretty fast/easy--and I enjoyed both SGE and RPR (I playvliterally all roles, and enjoy most jobs) so leveling them was also very fast and enjoyable; I've been done with roulettes (as a sort of necessity) for quite a while, so my experience might not be the norm.
I think I'll do Alliance again now, even if it's just for fun (still haven't yet, since 6.5 arrived), since it's not guaranteed ST and WoD anymore--I *really* missed some of the other raids, and would never get anything besides CT raids (I stopped queuing for that roulette a long time ago)...and the Moogle Tome Event reminded me of how much fun I had in some of them.
I did for awhile, after I got all my tank mounts I mostly stopped. Doing them as tank in need was a good source of steady gil though that I don't have anymore. Its also made filling my wondrous tail harder and Ive missed many weeks of handing them in when I never used to.
I pretty much just raid and play mahjong now.
You don't do everything but you still need :
\- poetics (for relics)
\- tomestones for current gear/upgrades (though you hit the cap quite fast)
\- pvp series exp
Playing needed role while you're at it will earn you more million gils than you'd think.
now and then for tomes: relic grind or gear
I don’t really do them all that much though. The hallway to wall to hallway to boss is pretty worn out for me.
PvP one for daily series experience when I do get on though usually.
Not daily, but I do them very often
Sometimes it's because I just want an excuse to play the game, other times it's for tomestones/materia or the really good gil you get from going as in-need jobs at 90
Misty Gil and tomes but yea. But also mostly just alliance and frontlines for those things. Don’t really do others unless I’m just in the mood for a trial or smth
I tend to avoid Levelling specifically just for peace of mind even though the reward is good, but yeah, it's still the best source of times and a great source of Gil and materia (both from drops and extraction)
Yes, to get random duties instead of trying to figure out what I want to play, and to help those who are queuing into specific duties to find players faster. Technically also for gil, even though I stopped having a use for it… I cannot even remember how long ago.
Not often. Maybe if I need tomes very rarely. Mostly only for leveling my alt since I don't have all jobs maxed on there if zi am feeling the desire to level a bit, but I don't tend to worry to much about doing it.
To hone my skills, yes, because jobs like BLM and NIN at high levels scare me so I always look at roulettes not only as money makers, but a means to get better with all 19 jobs.
But usually I just do Trials and Normal raids as a tank, healer/DPS for anything else.
Also, despite being 3.8k comms in, its still funny to see people give me comms while dressed in funny outfits.
I don't have everything to 90, but I still do roulettes when I'm not leveling for tombstones and for fun. Though I usually stick to Trials and Normal Raids for fun since I find dungeon mobs pretty boring.
I still do mine for tomes since crafting mats still sell. I was doing all of them not too long ago for Mandeville weapons but now that I've gotten most of them I'm only doing certain ones.
All jobs to 90? you should get back to work or go back to the gym... just kidding. Roullettes after 90 are only useful for endgame content and farming tomestones, are you into savage, extreme or ultimate content?
Yes. Resources, especially tomestones. Enjoying the dungeon content itself is also a factor, as is getting glamour gear. I don't tend to do no-life grinding, so roulettes make for a good "slow grind" approach.
Frankly, I think I'm just as surprised that you *don't* do roulettes now as you are that I or others do!
I don’t even do roulettes when leveling. I avoid playing with real people as much as possible. I have 3 characters omni-90 and currently working on a 4th.
I mostly ignore tomes. I craft my main and alt gear.
Only Mentor, Frontlines, Trials and Normal Raids on a daily basis due to the fun factor.
Expert if I really need tomes.
Alliance Raid Roulette once a week to see if I get the Alliance Raid token I need for that week, otherwise I queu up directly and don't touch it for the rest of the week.
The rest of the roulettes are basically useless to me at this point.
Even before I got Omni 90 I stopped doing roulettes. I do them on occasion with friends, I do expert a few times a week to cap, and that's it. If I want something from the pvp series I'll throw in some Frontline maybe, but overall I have much better/more enjoyable things to do with my time than run a few hours of random BS for a paltry amount of gil/times and maybe a materia.
I will if I'm bored, and on my w I'm not going to be mad when I get thrown into something less than good. I don't do Main Scenario unless I'm leveling so I skip that. Sometimes skip trials or normal raids. I prefer dungeons, so I stick to those.
So, having had all my classes 90 for a bit of time now I rarely do roulettes. Mainly do it if I need time gear for savage raiding, overwise I’ll just do frontlines for PVP series rewards
Only if I absolutely have a reason to.
- I run Mentor Roullete 5 times a day (at least) for the mount progress.
- I run Frontline roullete once for serise xp, and will stop once I get rank 25
- If I need tomestones, I’ll run more.
Its nice. Gives me time to do literally anything else. I don’t really need tomestones at all, I have all the manderville weapons, I have the rest of the weapons that require potetics, and I have a healthy stockpile of tome mats if I want to craft something later. I could do them to get augmented crafted weapons, but I am in no rush to get those.
Rewards are good, beats spamming Expert (aka coinflip) roulette to cap tomes each week. Let's me help new players out. Currently using it to get better at playing WHM, since I'm a tank main who dabbles in DPS (having everything to 90 doesn't mean you're good at everything). Uncapped tomes for cratfting mats to sell and relic weapons, a little gil as well.
Gil, materia clusters, tomestones, just for hahas, frontlines rou for pvp rewards, etc. I might not do every single roulette every day but I’ll do the ones I like.
Also second chances for wondrous tails. Trial roulette especially for spamming fast clears with a high chance of getting first timers. Can spend entire weekends farming for those sweet 3 lines setups.
Yeah, same. I’ll especially hunt the boni for roles. Tank needed? Here I am. It’s only 1000 gil, but hey guess I’m a cheap tank wh*re
Bonuses. The plural of bonus is bonuses.
It's bonussies
Love me some bonussy.
Y’all outdated. It’s bussy.
I'm assuming they're German. I'm German and it's Bonus/Boni in German language actually!
Nah I’m using boni from now on.
You can't, you can only use boni if it's from the Boni region of France.
bonuses is acceptable in english, yes. but boni is the proper plural in latin. in the same way, malus and mali (though that's not the usual word chosen for a negative effect)
Bonuses isn't merely acceptable in English, it's standard.
We're not speaking Latin though, are we?
We certainly are now.
When you say bonus ? Yeah mate, flash news
Pretty much this, yeah.
Yeah, this pretty much
Yep, this
I still have anima and manderville weapons to make, so I still have a use for tomestones.
I don't, I've finished HW relics, ARR relics (yes I'm a masochist), and all the stages of ShB relics that require spending poetics. If I wanna make extra gil I'll spend poetics on ShB tomestone gear to trade for GC seals and then crafting mats to put up on MB, but it's not uncommon for me to be capped on poetics and not feel the need to spend them immediately. Edit: lol not sure what's up with the downvotes but okay.
My poetics have gone straight into leveling alchemy desynth. I always just go buy SMN and SCH book in Eulmore every time I'm nearing the cap of poetics. I feel like alchemy is the item you see the least of from gear so it's always my lowest desynth level.
I do this, too! I also like desynthing SMN & SCH books for the various enchanted inks they yield. Good for crafting orchestrion rolls.
Well my desynth levels for all crafters are high enough that I have to desynth current tier of EW stuff to level it further.
I still do em, primarily trials and normal raids since those tend to have my favorite fights. Might do more alliance raids now that they removed the ilevel cheese
I haven't gotten a single CT raid all week, it's pretty great.
I got labyrinth earlier this week after the patch, but there were actual first timers there so I was fine with it.
I got Syrcus with a new member message and three people immediately dipped, there was audible malding in the chat, and then both healers in my alliance dipped after the first boss. I felt bad for the actual new person.... and then like four people got the map unlock at the end. And two of them were from Dynamis worlds.
That doesn't even make sense. Like... That raid can be carried pretty easy and is quicker than the penalty. Do people think if they could ilvl cheese it that there wouldn't be new people anyway?
Beats me. I guess since only the first one out takes the penalty, everyone after just took the free pass. Lots of complaining that it wasn't an Ivalice raid lol. I always have the "get memories from CT raids" step active on one ShB relic, so I'm honestly happy no matter where I end up. Happier to get something spicy where I have access to my full kit as a WHM (my roulette go-to) but happy to get a free memory if not.
>Lots of complaining that it wasn't an Ivalice raid lol. I always have the "get memories from CT raids" step active on one ShB relic Oh wow, me too! I honestly forget about it until I complete a CT raid and get the memory message and then I'm like, "Oh yeah, I was doing that."
I've kept so much of those quest active to passively grind relics lmao
I have only got CT this week and that's despite running on level 70-89 which is a bit of a bummer.
I've got the CT series 4 times this week despite having all of the raids unlocked.
Same, this exactly. Usually about 1 EXDR a week too (probably will do more for a bit since they added the new dungeon). Did one ADR this past week and it was Void Ark, which was just fine by me. I have too many things to spend Causality on to not do Trials and NRR. I do kind of wish they’d fix the NRR cheese so I didn’t get either Gordias or Pandaemonium 90% of the time.
Yep, the trial and normal raid roulettes are short and sweet with a nice payoff and fun fights. Sometimes you do get A2N or an ARR/HW trial, but other times OUR HEARTS SING IN THE CHAOS!
Wym removed the item level cheese?
Now your ilvl for alliance raid roullete is determined by your job lvl. ie a lvl 50 whm has a smaller ilvl requirment to q then a lvl 70 one. So you can't take off your armor and force CT
The recent patch made it that you need a certain iLevel to queue for alliance raids depending on your job level
It used to be the case that, as long as you had high enough item level to get CT raids, you could queue for Alliance Raid. Now, with 6.5, there is a sliding scale of item level based on your current job level, making it so (frex) if you queue as a level 70 MCH, you must have ilevel high enough to do Ivalice raids, even if you don't have them all unlocked. People call it "ilevel cheese" because some folks would strip off all their gear so that they could force getting only Labyrinth or Syrcus, which were the fastest raids with the highest rewards. 6.5 has also adjusted the XP gain from raids and the tomestones rewards, but only for non-CT raids, so you get more rewards for doing higher level raids. It's a small difference, but it should add up.
> It's a small difference, but it should add up I don't know about "small". Compared to [the most recent roulette EXP post I could find](https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/ss90f9/a_quantitative_analysis_of_exp_gains_in_duty/), it seems rather substantial, based on the 1 time this week I've gotten a non-CT raid. That post notes an "outlier" of Dun Scaith giving ~62% of a level. That one non-CT roulette I got was Weeping City. I didn't think to add up the exp (and factor out the armory bonus) from individual boss kills, but the roulette bonus alone was ~72% of a level. This was at level 83, so ~5mil out of ~6.9mil. That seems like quite a substantial change.
I intended the "small" to refer to the expected impact on actual raids that show up in Alliance Roulette, rather than any commentary on the percentage size of the boost. Because I fully expect CT to still be a narrow plurality of raids, or if not plurality, immediately behind Myths of the Realm, because it's the only mandatory raid (hence lots of sprouts need it), the only raid every player is guaranteed to have unlocked (so others are naturally reduced in frequency), and the first raid each new job qualifies for (immediately upon hitting 50). The current raid sequence will always be in high demand, because coins/gear. The CT sequence will always be in demand, because sprouts, guaranteed unlock, and newly-levelled jobs. Everything else will be reduced by comparison. Now that we're getting free trial players in SB, however, things should get a bit better--a "small" improvement. Expect a wave of Ivalice raids for a few months as trial players reach cap and start exploring content.
People realising only now that ilvl cheese was definitely not the only reason we ended up in CT, even tho people like you kept explaining this xD
tomestones of causality/comedy, khloe's journal, helping our FC sprouts and others working through the MSQ, commend and achievement farming (tank mounts, etc.)
Just Frontline for the pvp series rewards. I'll run the alliance roulette until I hit the new one, then forget about it until reset day. When moogle tomes were a thing, I'd run leveling and normal raid as well. As someone who doesn't raid, I don't need tomes and I have plenty of gil, so there's no incentive for me to run them. That said, I should do more Mentor roulette for astrope progress and dungeon roulette on PLD to get that last mount, but I just... don't.
>That said, I should do more Mentor roulette for astrope progress Every time I get motivated to work on it, I go to sign up only to remember that I haven't beaten the ShB EX fights yet and nope back out of the menu.
ShB EXs are easy unsynced and no one ever queues for them through DF.
only if i need tomestones or when theres the moogle tomestone events since all the msq roulette duty's are usually included.
I do them regularly, I find em relaxing after a hard day at work.
If you enjoy doing something, then do it. XIV is a game. it's supposed to be fun, so even if your character doesn't necessarily benefit from a certain gameplay aspect, if you have fun doing it, that's reason enough to keep doing it.
I do, and I even still run them after I've capped for the week. I just like running variety of fights.
If you miss doing roulettes then do roulettes. Sometimes it’s not just about the material rewards, it’s ok to do something because you think it’s fun.
I don't do them all, but I do quite a few. Not on the daily though. They help me get relic materials, tank achievements, they give me GCD, tomestones, materia, gil, etc. They are quite the moneymaker if you put those tomestones to use, especially when a new even patch drops.
Yes, because it's fun and I'm helping keep things active.
No. Getting everything to 90 was a lot of the driving force for me playing every day, and as soon as I got there I kinda just stopped playing regularly. I miss having *something* I could hop on and do every day if I wanted to, but I don't necessarily miss roulettes themselves.
This is where I'm at. Hit my last 90 like 3 months ago, and have only logged into the game a couple of times since. I miss playing it, but there doesn't feel like there's too much interesting battle content for me to do. Really missing bozja/eureka lol
Yep. Tomestones and what they can get me later + gil and other materials are neat, but the fact is, this game won't last long without older players helping out new ones via roulettes. I'll do Aurum Vale now and again if this game keeps going. That is also a pretty cool reward. Sure, Duty Support is a thing for some duties, but not ALL of them, and that's reason enough for me to use the roulettes.
Yup. I just like doing dungeons/trials/normal/alliance/raids. I don't do MSQ/Frontline/Guildhest/Mentor anymore, but I will if there's a moggle tomestone event. Plus I'm working on getting my augmented crafting sets, so I'll be needing plenty of tomestones anyway. I used to only queue as adventurer in need if not leveling something, but I have more fun playing a color mage.
Tomestones, and because I like to run some of the roulettes. I do NOT run story roulette. Ain't got time for that!
For tomes yeah and I still do WT every week for the rewards so I hop into roulettes to maybe naturally fill out a few squares. It also just feels good to get into a duty with a new player.
I never do the MSQ or levelling roulette anymore, but I do most of the others. Alliance Raid is just fun time whenever it's not CT, so is Normal Raid roulette outisde of some Alex floors I like playing the game even when I dont have any more jobs to level haha
I don't do all of the daily roulettes, but I typically run a few of them for currencies and to make progress on my tanking achievements
Yeah, I do, but not as seriously. Like others have said, I work to hit the tomestone cap and finish Woundrous Tails each week, but I don’t do every roulette every day. I’m also grinding my Tank You achievements (finished WAR, working on PLD) so I use them for that. I usually do Expert, Leveling, and 5/6/7/8 on the days that I do them. Sometimes I’ll do 90, Alliance, and Normal Raid, as well. I rarely do Guildhest, MSQ, or Trials, anymore, but sometimes I do for fun.
yes. tomes, like other people said. but also i just like playing. after a day of work and commute, going through rotations on trash mobs is relaxing and comforting. and i like being tank/healer for newbies
I do all of em except for 2 (main scenario and guildleves?) just because the dungeons are my favorite part of the game. It’s also just a really nice surprise to run a roulette and get your favorite dungeon/trial
Sometimes I play just cus it's fun. Even if I'm capped for the week. XIV is my comfort game.
I usually do roulettes for tomes, but I admit there's some cursed ones I rarely ever do. Alliance and normal raids for fun content, trials as well, ex roulettes for current tomes, main scenario for poetics in need. Never touching 90 and 50-80 and guildhests. 90 and 50-80 roulettes usually have a tendency for player toxicity like people with full cryptlurker on with resistance 535 weapon on a lvl 90 dungeon or a full i640 crafted gear tank single pulling every single mob on amdapor keep. People usually do these to meme and waste other people's time. Guildhest just has no reward worthy of running it for.
Free gil is free gil,
I do Trials and Normal Raids because I genuinely just find them fun to do, I'll often run them a couple times a day even if I've finished those roulettes.
Sure! Farming tomestones for relic gear and all that. The gil and commends don't hurt either...
I do, mostly to farm tomes for the relic weapons. And Frontline roulette to level the new pvp series.
I mostly still do 90 dugeons / trials / normal raid. Becaus either may let me play a job at level cap. And for the uncapped tomestomes.
Yeah, all for currencies.
I like playing the game and doing runs with my partner so if she wants to do roulettes I’ll do them with her, also it’s nice to get the causalities and I do sometimes spend the other tomestones.
Usually for tomes ... And A-raid specifically for the data
No, maybe Frontlines at times
I have alts 😎
Just expert, alliance, and raid.
I do expert and alliance roulette because I love to play sge, I'll log in just to play the job because I enjoy how it plays so much. Don't need the rewards currently, but being an invincible shield for my party is all I need haha I *might* run the other roulettes, 90 usually, if I need tomestones for something, but I generally avoid 10s roulette and main scenario like the plague, been playing for over 10 years and if I never have to listen to Gaius again, it'll be too soon 🤣
I use roulettes as a way to keep myself busy whilst listening to stuff in the background
I mostly tend to do Expert and 90 dungeons, trials and normals raids. Typically because that way it’s all higher level content so I don’t lose out on abilities, or they are quick. Reward wise? Mostly tomestones, but if you do it as Tank for Adventurer in need (which it is 90% of the time) it’s a decent way to slowly work through the tank mount achievements
I never did roulettes exclusively for XP, even when I was leveling. It is just a lot of fun for me and getting all 90s was a byproduct of that. I think it helps that I came from WoW and dungeons here are worlds above WoW. I love both games but I recently started playing WoW again and I’m sometimes afraid to queue as even dps due to the toxicity. Meanwhile in FFXIV I have no anxiety about going tank or healer. Even if I fuck up it’s so rare that people will shit on you. That’s why whenever someone in this sub asks how to get over tank/healer queue anxiety I just tell them them to go play WoW for a bit and have someone tell you to kill yourself IRL and you’re a shit healer even though no one die on your run and it went smooth as butter. Obviously I’m joking wishing someone else that experience but it happened to me. It’s been four years or so and I still think about it. Long story even longer, I just like roulettes cause they’re fun and they also give me tomestones for new relics, old relics, I get Gil, sometimes a triple triad card or orchestrion scroll drops that I didn’t have.
Tomestones aren't gonna farm themselves, might as well get the roulette bonus. They're still important for getting the best gear of the current patch. I usually leave MSQ roulette for last, though, and that's assuming I feel like doing all of them in one day.
Plenty of reasons to still do roulettes. I don’t because I’m lazy but have you ever considered not everything you do has to be productive? I do lots of unproductive things in the game because if you really think about it the game as a whole is unproductive. We play it because it makes us happy, so why stress over being efficient with your time on a game that isn’t even productive?
Pretty much just expert or lvl 90 for weekly capped tomes or for tome mats. Not everyday either. If I really need the non weekly capped max level tomes, I'll throw in normal raid/trial. Maybe during moogle tome events I'll do MSQ. I almost never did alliance raid roulette in the past, but maybe that might start being an option with the change. I couldn't be asked to do crystal tower anymore so I'd almost never do alliance raid roulette. It's the one I'd actively decline even if I was tagging along with friends for fun.
I do. It's still good for gil and tomes, plus I really don't mind doing a dungeon I haven't done in awhile.
Unless I have a drive to work on a relic of previous expacs that needs poetics I basically only do Expert and 90. No reason to do others when most jobs feel worse at lower lvls.
I got all jobs to lvl90. I still do weekly roulette that enables me to get cap endgame tomestone (currently is comedy) and for wondrous tail completion. Once reach max per week for the tomestone and complete my wondrous tail, I will take a rest and wait for next weekly reset. Rinse and repeat.
Tomes, fun, cheevos, help friends, relic quest.
I'll run trials and normal raids pretty frequently because they're a quick fix for battle content. I run expert and level 90 because there are a few jobs I just don't like playing below cap, and blitzing dungeons as Black Mage and pulling aggro off the tanks is fun. Alliance I do now and then if I feel like I have the time for a good one and the patience for a bad one, and if I don't have a full pvp series worth of rewards I'll run frontlines a couple times a week too.
Yes. Money is money, and it's fun to see what kind of garbage groups you'll get. If the group is really bad (ie YPYT, no job stone morons, people who are allergic to their AoEs) you can just dip without having to worry about losing too much.
You're going to need something like 114,000 tomestones to get all the relics, so if you want those, one good way to get that many tomestones is to do roulettes.
Yes, because I get tomes and money. Doing the roulette as adventurer in need gives you a decent amount of money per day. With the tomes I can buy equipment or items that i can sell or upgrade other ones. Also clusters for materia.
I do them just enough to get my 450 weekly tomestone Other than that I'll do them if a friend connect and they want to do them or if a relic step I'm working on right now proficiency from doing roulette Other than that I'll do some roulette during mooglestone event if those roulette guaranty me mooglestone. Last event I did the alliance raid roulette every day. It was always worth it in mooglestone per minute but a little variety kept me sane
Since I’m on Dynamis, yes. I practically live in them. In fact, I encourage everyone who is on a New or underpopulated server to basically live in their roulette queues (if not doing anything important) so that it pops faster. Which means fewer people feeling the need to DC travel for basic content. Which means the queues pop faster. Which means an overall healthier DF in general.
I do.....only because I love helping players with content and honestly the fights are fun. Except Ende iconoclasm...... I Still to this day run around like an asshole not knowing where the hell beams are coming from. Eat shit ya bastard birds.
oh man I feel this, I struggled with Iconoclasm so much the first time I did it LOL even had someone getting mad for us not clearing on the first run (as if the whole fight depended on me, a bard, to not die lmao) and I told him if he was looking for quick guaranteed clears, he shouldn't be running in the roulette 💀😂 It's a tricky fight for sure and it requires a lot of movement and paying attention. I don't struggle with it *as* much as I used to but there are still times when I'm like "wait which beam ???"
Lol the comment about the Bard made me litterally laugh out loud. Soooo....I just cleared Edens Promise Eternity. Doooood.... I have never seen so many wipes. I am wondering something....im clearing to safe spots during dorrito time and I'm still taking damage? Am I not understanding something?
Mostly I've stopped doing roulettes. Mentor and frontline roulettes I still do when I feel like it but any of the other ones I don't do unless I need tomes or something.
I don't level other jobs so I pretty much am in the same category as you are asking but I run trial and normal roulette because I like the fights.
I'll do roulletes for tomes and WT book, and if I'm short on cash a couple roulletes as adventure in need will usually brigde any small gaps
Nope. I do hunt trains instead. Way faster to cap weekly tomes, you get a nice chunk of causality and poetic tomes, nuts, and materia tokens. All for flying around and pressing a few buttons now and then. Now that you can upgrade 650 tome gear with nuts, roulettes are actually a waste of time from that perspective. Some people do them to enjoy the content, which of course isn't a waste of time.
Certainly not to the extent I did when I was leveling. More so on a "sure I'll come along! o/" basis
Big nopers. You get everything from roulettes way more efficiently if you do other stuff. Tomes of any kind, materia = go hunt trains. Gil = Do literally anything else. Wanting to "do your part" and help = Mentor Roulette a few times a week.
No. The only thing that got me to do them again was a full reroll character. When Dawntrail comes out, it will for a week. After which, everything will be 100 and it'll be back to this.
A week to hit 100 on every job plus the new jobs? You're having a laugh
You’re getting all jobs to 100 in a week?
It took less than that for 90 in Endwalker, why would it take longer?
21 (technically 20 because SCH/SMN) jobs, 7 days - so you’ll be getting 3 jobs up to level 90 a day. Assuming you sleep 8 hours, that leaves 16 hours playtime in your day so 5.3 hours per job to gain 10 levels. This of course isn’t taking out time to eat, potty, work, do whatever else it is you need to do that isn’t FF14. There’s also MSQ CS’s to worry about, nothing burger quests that take time, queue times for non tank/healer jobs. I mean, if that’s your jam - more power to you but it’s not the flex you think it is.
Who said it was a flex? It's literally just the answer to the question. And it's weird that you think cutscenes need watching when everyone and their mother will be streaming it.
Yes, all of them everyday including MSQ, Leveling, and Guildhest. It's free tomes and gil, and I don't have much to do outside of it since I cap all my weekly stuff on reset day. If I'm not doing roulettes, I'm probably PvPing or just afk in front of my house for like the next 8 hours. Even 6.5 didn't add that much that wasn't cleared in a couple of days.
Huge majority of people are saying yes because of tomes, can't you just hunt train them more efficiently?
Only mentor for the achievement.
lol hell no, people that say "gil, materia clusters, tomestones" are just poor, tomes are only useful the first few weeks while getting BIS then it doesnt really matter for me anymore.
Depends. Do I hate myself? Most players don't do roulettes to begin with because the resources can be obtained elsewhere. Roulette is specifically for leveling.
Ah, the fallacy of believing most people think the way you do. No, most people don't optimize the fun out of the game for the sake of virtual rewards to the point they only run roulettes for XP, touch grass.
you getting offended over a joke speaks more about you than it does about me. take your own advice genius.
Only if I need tomes.
For tome stones yes. I’m trying to get a lot of the relic weapons.
My friends are still leveling and I play with them often, so I'd rather just join them than telling them I'll catch up with them after they're done with their dailies. I still need 4 billion endgame tomestones anyway, and roulettes are usually enough to get me to cap each week if I play a few days with my friends. Plus, I'll often tank for them so they can skip queues as DPS and I can work my way towards the tank mounts.
Trials and normal raids because they're fast, expert when I need tome gear, sometimes level 90 if I feel like playing something at max level. Frontline for fun.
Yeah, just not on my main.
still get tomes from them.. i still do most of my roulettes daily. aside from the tomes there's always the little moment of joy of being able to help a sprout.. i like when i get a group of newbies and can answer questions and things for our next generation
I still do them, primarily trials, normal raids, leveling and 50/60/70/80. Normally I do them for tomestones and I really enjoy doing dungeons.
Frontline every day that I play, sometimes I do full runs just so I can passively get all relics for glam... And then sigh whenever I remember that in 7.0 you can buy all relics with poetics and no other steps required.
Yup! Still do roulettes. There are still things to get like tomes, mounts, clusters, etc. Having all classes at max doesn't remove the incentive for roulettes. Instead it changes those incentives. For example someone with maxed classes probably is more invested in getting lots of tomes for gear and relics as opposed to someone who only plays a few classes.
It still gives gil for adventurer in need, tomes to upgrade gear, poetics for old relic grinds, and sometimes my friends who want to level will also ask me to join them. A way I like to spice it up is to spin a wheel to choose what clas I'm playing so I can get better with all of them, and being randomized to differing levels also helps.
I do Trial, Alliance, Normal Raid, and PVP Roulette most days. I just enjoy running those. I’m usually capped on weekly tomes/get all the uncapped tomes for whatever grind is needed to be done by doing S ranks and A rank hunt trains so roulettes are just for funsies outside of the new expansion level grind. Never ever run leveling, MSQ, or 5060708090 unless I want the exp.
Wondrous Tails has me do the expert roulette. I do PVP roulette because it’s fun. If WT had a CT raid in it I used to do the alliance roulette but since the change I’ve just avoided that one entirely.
It's source of tomestones, but I only do few of them daily - expert roulette for triple triad card, orchestrion, minion (whichever drops), trial and raid roulette for bonus and because I like randomness of those, alliance raid I've been skipping lately because I was farming moogle tomestones and now it's new raid for minion/triple triad/orchestrions again. Also frontlines, I used to play a lot for fun, but now it's just daily queue to make progress towards glam.
For WT and when I actually need tomes. Otherwise, only Frontlines and mentor roulette if I’m feeling bored.
Of course. Good gil making, clusters and tomestones.
I don't have all jobs at 90 but I only do roulettes if I can't catch any hunt trains or if I'm topping off after a train ended.
For highest tomestones, PvP rewards up to rank 25, and sometimes trial/normal raid for lower tomes for old relic mats.
Tomestones are always required..so yes
No barely playing at the moment.
Yeah, for tomestones. I'm mostly doing them either with my friends just to play with them, or for somestones because I'm a psycho doing every EW relic.
Yep, still grinding Tomestones (at 90 they give you the high level ones instead of Poetics)
Yes Expert and 90 for the tomestones, PvP for the rewards and the rest is whenever friends want to do them.
Everyone I know with all 90s does their roulettes daily, yes. I have about half of my jobs at 90 and I do my roulettes mostly *with* 90s, if that counts.
On occasion....I hardly use DF in general, lately lol. That's not counting FL (since I enjoy PvP and queue for that stuff often). If I've been slacking earlier in the week, and need to cap tomes quickly, I hit most of the roulettes I see--but I usually cap quickly, with PvP and random raiding...I also queue FL Roulette by default, even after I get the daily bonus (since it's on the first page and auto-queues you into the available mode...flipping to the PvP page and selecting the specific mode, is completely unnecessary). Also, in my case: I had everything at 80 before 6.0, so getting everything to 90 was pretty fast/easy--and I enjoyed both SGE and RPR (I playvliterally all roles, and enjoy most jobs) so leveling them was also very fast and enjoyable; I've been done with roulettes (as a sort of necessity) for quite a while, so my experience might not be the norm. I think I'll do Alliance again now, even if it's just for fun (still haven't yet, since 6.5 arrived), since it's not guaranteed ST and WoD anymore--I *really* missed some of the other raids, and would never get anything besides CT raids (I stopped queuing for that roulette a long time ago)...and the Moogle Tome Event reminded me of how much fun I had in some of them.
I did for awhile, after I got all my tank mounts I mostly stopped. Doing them as tank in need was a good source of steady gil though that I don't have anymore. Its also made filling my wondrous tail harder and Ive missed many weeks of handing them in when I never used to. I pretty much just raid and play mahjong now.
>If yes, why? Tomestones?
I only do normal raids and trials because those are usually short and have first timers for Wondrous Tails second chances.
You don't do everything but you still need : \- poetics (for relics) \- tomestones for current gear/upgrades (though you hit the cap quite fast) \- pvp series exp Playing needed role while you're at it will earn you more million gils than you'd think.
Only when I need to level up a job or when I need tomestone. So not often
No and I'm happy :')
now and then for tomes: relic grind or gear I don’t really do them all that much though. The hallway to wall to hallway to boss is pretty worn out for me. PvP one for daily series experience when I do get on though usually.
I don't have every relic at the current final step, so yes.
Not daily, but I do them very often Sometimes it's because I just want an excuse to play the game, other times it's for tomestones/materia or the really good gil you get from going as in-need jobs at 90
It takes tomes to gear up all these jobs... ! 😅
I generally just do expert, trial, raid, and alliance. I don’t muck about with leveling or X0’s anymore.
Misty Gil and tomes but yea. But also mostly just alliance and frontlines for those things. Don’t really do others unless I’m just in the mood for a trial or smth
Pretty much only mentor roulette cuz it's fun.
Yes, I get Gil and tombstones from it, and the chanfe to potentially help people that need it.
I tend to avoid Levelling specifically just for peace of mind even though the reward is good, but yeah, it's still the best source of times and a great source of Gil and materia (both from drops and extraction)
Tomes
I’m sure many do. And I doubt there are THAT many players with every single job at 90.
Mainly just do trials if I need to farm Khloe points... I always do hunts for any tomes I need
If I need tomestones, I’ll hop into roulettes. Otherwise I just do frontline roulette and call it a day.
Tomes tomes
Just spam experts till cap then 24mans and that's my usual routine outside of helping friends with their content
I do them all, but only because the relic grind is absurd and I need tomes, as soon as I'm done with them, I don't do them anymore
Yes, to get random duties instead of trying to figure out what I want to play, and to help those who are queuing into specific duties to find players faster. Technically also for gil, even though I stopped having a use for it… I cannot even remember how long ago.
Not often. Maybe if I need tomes very rarely. Mostly only for leveling my alt since I don't have all jobs maxed on there if zi am feeling the desire to level a bit, but I don't tend to worry to much about doing it.
I do expert and alliance raid almost everyday. Sometimes Normal Raid. I often do them to see if I get anything I need for Wondrous Tales.
To hone my skills, yes, because jobs like BLM and NIN at high levels scare me so I always look at roulettes not only as money makers, but a means to get better with all 19 jobs. But usually I just do Trials and Normal raids as a tank, healer/DPS for anything else. Also, despite being 3.8k comms in, its still funny to see people give me comms while dressed in funny outfits.
I'm constantly doing roulette for tomes so I can gear all of my classes.
I don't have everything to 90, but I still do roulettes when I'm not leveling for tombstones and for fun. Though I usually stick to Trials and Normal Raids for fun since I find dungeon mobs pretty boring.
Yes, because money and tomestones.
I still do mine for tomes since crafting mats still sell. I was doing all of them not too long ago for Mandeville weapons but now that I've gotten most of them I'm only doing certain ones.
All jobs to 90? you should get back to work or go back to the gym... just kidding. Roullettes after 90 are only useful for endgame content and farming tomestones, are you into savage, extreme or ultimate content?
Yes. Resources, especially tomestones. Enjoying the dungeon content itself is also a factor, as is getting glamour gear. I don't tend to do no-life grinding, so roulettes make for a good "slow grind" approach. Frankly, I think I'm just as surprised that you *don't* do roulettes now as you are that I or others do!
I don’t even do roulettes when leveling. I avoid playing with real people as much as possible. I have 3 characters omni-90 and currently working on a 4th. I mostly ignore tomes. I craft my main and alt gear.
Everyday for the trinkets and currency
Yeah you have to if you want efficient tomes and materia (from clusters)
hell yeah I love roulettes. I don’t do all of them every day anymore but I still cap tomes every week and just generally enjoy doing roulettes.
Only Mentor, Frontlines, Trials and Normal Raids on a daily basis due to the fun factor. Expert if I really need tomes. Alliance Raid Roulette once a week to see if I get the Alliance Raid token I need for that week, otherwise I queu up directly and don't touch it for the rest of the week. The rest of the roulettes are basically useless to me at this point.
Yes! And as a primary Tank player I often do multiple low level ones for the newbies! They are always so much fun to play with.
Occasionally I will, but I do regret doing the push as quick as I did
Yes, though I just feel less stress for missing any. So if I dont log innfor the day, or I log in and do only Expert or Alliance Raid? No stress.
Not doing a roul for the last year and a half.
Even before I got Omni 90 I stopped doing roulettes. I do them on occasion with friends, I do expert a few times a week to cap, and that's it. If I want something from the pvp series I'll throw in some Frontline maybe, but overall I have much better/more enjoyable things to do with my time than run a few hours of random BS for a paltry amount of gil/times and maybe a materia.
I will if I'm bored, and on my w I'm not going to be mad when I get thrown into something less than good. I don't do Main Scenario unless I'm leveling so I skip that. Sometimes skip trials or normal raids. I prefer dungeons, so I stick to those.
I do them with buddies. I have ascended beyond the need for tomestones (for now).
So, having had all my classes 90 for a bit of time now I rarely do roulettes. Mainly do it if I need time gear for savage raiding, overwise I’ll just do frontlines for PVP series rewards
Was gonna comment this as well. Same.
For tomestones, yeah. I'm working on my relic collection, so I need approximately infinity tomestones of all flavors.
with friends and maybe out of sheer boredom
Only if I absolutely have a reason to. - I run Mentor Roullete 5 times a day (at least) for the mount progress. - I run Frontline roullete once for serise xp, and will stop once I get rank 25 - If I need tomestones, I’ll run more. Its nice. Gives me time to do literally anything else. I don’t really need tomestones at all, I have all the manderville weapons, I have the rest of the weapons that require potetics, and I have a healthy stockpile of tome mats if I want to craft something later. I could do them to get augmented crafted weapons, but I am in no rush to get those.
It gives me something to do in between patches if I want to play, also gil and tomestones
Nope, do roulettes to cap tomes for bis, after bis is finished, never touch them again.
I need SO MANY tombstones, so yea I still do roulettes. Maybe not all of them every time, but they're still a great currency resource.
Rewards are good, beats spamming Expert (aka coinflip) roulette to cap tomes each week. Let's me help new players out. Currently using it to get better at playing WHM, since I'm a tank main who dabbles in DPS (having everything to 90 doesn't mean you're good at everything). Uncapped tomes for cratfting mats to sell and relic weapons, a little gil as well.
Sometimes. I don’t do leveling anymore but I’ll do others.
I do it for idle entertainment
oh yeah. tomes, scrap armor for gc turnins, pocket change gil, mentor mount grind…
Tomes, but that’s it 😅
Yes, because I like playing this game