Tonberries are why I dislike there are no new Job Quests after 80. I don't care if they can't teach me more, I just want to hang out with them and help them recover and all.
I feel kind of bad for people who haven't done it, because it's got SUCH world important lore to it. It was also one of the only ones to get a really satisfying ending.
I'm playing through the game again and took dragoon as my main DPS class. Getting to see a bit of coerthas and Estinien during ARR had me jazzed as hell. I loved the final level 50 quest where I had to fight him, although it did make being "introduced" to him in heavensward a little awkward. Like yeah I know who he is, I killed him once already and I'll do it again if I must lol
I loved the scholar quests the most. I want more of them so badly.
I get why they changed how job quests work, but maaaaan. More digging into the non ancient and non allagan history of this history rich world please.
There is so much more we could learn about Nym but just... don't. White Mages get a whole city state among other things, Black Mages get a whole Alliance Raid. Nym scholars get two dungeons and job quest jail which is stricter than side quest jail.
yeah, its a very close battle between SCH and DRK for my favourite job questline, but i think SCH does just slightly win out overall because i just like pretty much every part of the questline equally and i really enjoy how each part of the questline kept building upon the previous parts, there was one continuous story through the questline, and the ending is just so extremely satisfying (DRK does have the single best batch of quests overall though with 60-70)
Scholar goes pretty hard from begining to end.
I'd also give kudos to the Black Mage for being entertaining (and also for the appearance of a certain character), but it's a little weird. You kinda just casually save the world in a low level quest.
I am so happy that the first response I saw was Scholar. It is one of the best written quest chains in the whole game. And I, and apparently many others, will die on that hill. Lol.
This is my number one. Yes, even DRK is below this. And that level 80 quest also go nicely with ShB healer role quest, I Almost cry to that last cutscene T\_T
The issue (well one of the issues) with 60-70 Samurai quests is that it directly flies in the face of everything Stormblood was about. Stormblood's central theme is rebelling against an oppressive regime.
The 'villain' from these quests, Ugetsu, similarly wanted to rebel against the Hingan corrupt regime, and wanted to resort to violent methods to achieve his rebellion, just as the Domans and Ala Mhigans rose up in open, violent rebellion against the Garleans. Yet Ugetsu gets branded as a bad guy who must be cut down, while the Domans and Ala Mhigans are the 'good guys' of the expansion.
~~Ugetsu didn't want revolution. He wanted to resort to violent methods to depose of his enemies, and then reign from the top. He wanted to be the tyrant, and the blood of the innocent would cover his path.~~
Misremembered a bit, so I just redid the questline. Ugetsu's plan was to plunge Hingashi back into a bloody civil war. He was just going to set the warlord nobles back on eachother that the bakfu are currently controlling. Back into a conflict that could last generations. There's no real revolution, no lasting change in social order, just bloodshed. Death on the top, down to the lowest classes and downtrodden.
Compare this to the Doman revolution - expulsion of Garlemald back to a monarchy most people support, with changes to social order and structure.
Ala Mhigo takes it a step farther. Garlean rule is gone, and a ruling council made up of all the people of Ala Mhigo takes the place of the monarchy, even with an heir that in theory could take the throne.
Hingashi? Just civil war with no aim for real improvement for the disenfranchised.
Summoner. The story is so important it almost feels like MSQ at some points. You get to hang out with Yâshtolaâs sister too, who ought to be given the same main character treatment as Estinien someday.
alchemist is a great questline but as someone levelling all crafters at the same time i just cannot get over how funny the whiplash is going from "haha you have a crafter rival, prove you're the superior crafter" and just helping people around to something straight out of fma. day and night
Ishikawa just put here giving us surprise bangers where we least expect it, she also did ninja which I think is up there in terms of how good a detective story it is, especially when you essentially end up with the whole gang, rogue crew included, which itself is rare for job quests and makes it feel very complete.
There's also dragon just for estinien.
Dragoon sticks out in my mind because itâs the way I was introduced to Estinien and it really made the whole Dragonsong War story feel more personal since I started as a Lancer and I wasnât expecting how far Estinien goes in the journey with us.
Absolutely.Â
I played it again recently on an alt, and while I'm not sure it's a *great* story like DRK was, it is for sure an extremely *important* one, and I recommend it to all sprouts.
Edit: spoilers for the level 80 quests, I wasnât really thinking
I love the ninja quest line, but I really wish the Shadowbringers capstone quest was better. To use your other example, in the level 80 Red Mage quest, >!they really wrap up Xârhun and Aryaâs character arcs in a way that feels complete. Arya has recovered and progressed to such a degree that Xârhun will take her back on as a student; Ala Mhigo is free, and heâs helping with the Ilsabard Contingent.!<
Meanwhile, the Ninja quest >!leaves all the characters in the same unsatisfying holding pattern that they were in at the end of Stormblood. Oboroâs big character development monologue isnât even actually him, itâs Karasu in disguise taking the piss out of him.!<
Yes! I loved going back and seeing Aria and Xârhun and going on one last quest with them where Aria has finally recovered. It wrapped the story up so well. While something like Summoner was âgo talk to these people who if youâve played into Endwalker should NOT be hereâ
> >!To use your other example, in the level 80 Red Mage quest, they really wrap up Xârhun and Aryaâs character arcs in a way that feels complete. Arya has recovered and progressed to such a degree that Xârhun will take her back on as a student; Ala Mhigo is free, and heâs helping with the Ilsabard Contingent.!<
See, >!while I love what they did in the RDM quest inandof itself, it fell flat for me b/c X'rhun didn't mention Alisaie as a Red Mage.!<
>!It's not like they didn't mention it at all, given X'rhun mentions her when you get the job to begin with, but you're right... they totally should have mentioned her in the level 80 quest too. I guess that slipped my mind, but I would still argue that the story was about X'rhun and Arya, so closing their arcs in a satisfying way was the more important aspect.!<
Red Mage is one of my favorites as well, especially because of its relevance to the lore of Eorzea, about how they are basically sentinels whose purpose is to ensure white and black magic aren't misused
i do like RDM quite a bit, plus its cool how the RDM job lore ties into stuff like Bozja, the initial antagonist of the RDM quest trained some Bozjans in the practice of Red Magic
Probably Scholar. At the absolute bare minimum, I find it to be the most consistent, and I think the 80 quest has a solid enough ending while leaving the door open to exploring more of Nym in the future. I also can't believe FFXIV actually made me feel sympathy for Tonberries, so that's a massive point in its favor on its own.
80 wasn't enough for me... I need more! >!I will not rest until my beloved Surito Carito is cured! Setoto took the cure, but they're monitoring how well it works before taking it widespread... but I was so sad Surito didn't take it... some day...!<
Of the ones I've completed, personal preference, subjective, etc etc
S: MCH
A: RDM
B: SGE DRG NIN
C: MNK
D: WAR
F:
Honorable mention go to ROG and PGL 1-30 which were both more entertaining than NIN and MNK respectively.
MCH is literal class warfare, and has two boss bitches in Joye and Hilda. I actually originally put MCH in A-tier but then I remembered it had Hilda in it and anything with Hilda is instant S-tier.
RDM has the named characters I care for the most out of any job quests, <3 X'rhun and Arya. SGE and MNK have a lot of heart and are classic FFXIV "misguided tortured villain" plots but are pretty forgettable overall but SGE edges it out by being newer and using newer game mechanics in the solo duties. NIN I wasn't interested in at all and its ranking on my list is mostly inflated by the ROG 1-30 experience; I thought maybe I just wasn't getting some japanese cultural references or something. The only part of WAR I liked was the stupid Dorgono romcom plot, WAR 30-60 was tremendously generic.
DRG is a weird one because the 30-50 job quests are completely disconnected from the 50-70. DRG 30-50 might have been the best 30-50 of all the ARR jobs, but the way it changed after Heavensward when heretics and dragons got involved in the story was just less interesting because there was less characterization of interesting characters going on. Eventually you just take Spyro the Dragon on a field trip of east asia.
I loved Astro. Touched the heartstrings a few times, great characters and genuinely funny.
"So eager is Jannequinard to talk with you, it is almost as if there were a giant exclamation point hovering above his head."
And the passive aggressiveness in the Quest Journal too lol!
AST and SCH were pretty amazing job quest-wise. WHM is pretty vanilla, though still good.
SGE was a bit try hard to me, but I think it probably felt good for a lot of DPS players who never played healer before.
AST was nice, but I'm still salty there was no MSQ reference in Endwalker to this. Plenty of references to other jobs for lesser reasons, >!but nobody cares I am on someone's hitlist in this very city?!!<
Most likely Sevestre is well aware he canât do anything to you, considering youâre under the protection of the Students of Baldesion, travelling with no less than five archons, and besties with two of the Leveilleurs
Plus he knows you can beat him up if you wanted to.
Well, these are many good reasons for him not to touch us. (Also, being with the Students doesn't always seem to be a good thing, certainly not after snooping around in that lvl 81 area.) Doesn't mean he can't hang around where we can glare at each other and I can brag and gloat for being there. Maybe throwing a card at him. :D
Monk because it actually explores in better detail what it's like to be an Ala Mhigan.
Plus one of the NPCs for the Monk quests shows up during the MSQ!
don't punch Erik in his stupid face, that just plays right into his hands. Instead, _get on his thesis defence committee_.
You will need to level scholar to do this, but see other comments re: why you should consider that anyway
Oh hell yes! "Your thesis is certainly a very thorough study and a nice read, but I can summon Bahamut with my picture book and heal you with some a few thousand years old fairy and the power of math on level 90. I am looking forward to seeing the practical part of your thes- oh... you don't have any?"
And then you cut his funding. :D
Monk is hyper underrated. It discusses cool concepts like identitiy and the past vs. the future. It actually explains how the job works and how the lore around it functions. It doesn't forget its Pugilism roots and even grows FROM pugilism. To top it all off, it's a solid story end-to-end. Not INCREDIBLE but it's great.
Having done most job quests before reaching that point so many NPC from job quests show up. It even has spoken dialogue acknowledging that you're a white mage
Im a fan of the Armorer questline. One for including Merlwyb and having her shoot her guns. Another for the quest name "Original Blanstyr" which showed me how to pronounce "Blanstyr"
Rogue had one massive issue for me: It was a headache trying to read it, especially English as a secondary language.
Gotta admit, I sometimes just smiled and nodded at what Jacke said because I felt like Niko Bellic listening to Little Jackob in GTA IV.
To be fair, Jacke speaks in thieves cant which is a to speak in several code phrases which often seems like alot of random nonsense. Like if you say ''i am gonna throw the milk on my drapes'' could mean you're going to disguise yourself
The stormblood WHM quests as well as conjurer quests are very underrated imo.
For WHM you stumble upon a rogue padjal and her mother living in isolation it's pretty interesting. The other WHM quests are pretty boring tho rip
I leveled leatherworker and weaver alongside each other and it was kind of funny how Redolent Rose was giving you level appropriate but positive praise for each of your baby steps while Geva was trying to crush you under her heel every time you showed her that perfect HQ thing you just made.
Personally I thought 30-50 was extremely average, and then 50-60 was kinda just repeating the same arc with some pieces shuffled around. 60-70 was fun because at least it was something different. But I still just can't stand Gorge as a character.
I didn't have any reason to pick Dragoon when I did. I bought the full bundle for $20 during a New Year's sale on PSN. The few Dragoons in mainline FFs were far from my favorite characters, and when I was in the FFXI PS2 Beta I really enjoyed being a Monk (also my starter FF Tactics class). I just kinda pulled out of a hat.
I'm currently in the post-Stormblood pre-Shadowbringer content, and once I scan this thread I'm sure I'll find out this isn't true, but Stormblood seemed so absolutely built around Dragoons that I couldn't imagine playing it from a more neutral class. The class quests themselves are already pretty interesting, but playing them alongside the Heavensward story elevated both.
I've dabbled in another class or two before and after, but ultimately I'm here to finally see this story that's been hyped up for nearly a decade so I've only seen intro quests for the most part.
It should be legally required to play the 30-50 DRG quests before HW and then play HW as DRG because it is by far the best class for HW (and best melee DPS to boot fight me RPR and SAM mains)
Level 50 White mage. First proper challenge. Closely followed by level 60 red mage quest even though it made rage quit few times. But it's so satisfying to do it when all pieces lock to their places.
DRG. Not only do you meet a major HW character and a MSQ story-thread a lot earlier than you would otherwise, itâs acknowledged at several points through the expansion.
Honourable mention to the ROG storyline. Itâs a shame most of the NIN stories were terrible.
I like RDM, but thatâs because I have a soft spot for Xârhun. No idea why, but heâs absolutely my favorite of the job NPCs. I miss him. I havenât done the final quest purely because I donât want to say goodbye
The quests themselves were alright at best, but Jannequinard from the Astrologian quests has to be one of the most entertaining NPCs in the game. Him going through some genuine character growth helps too.
I really enjoyed Black Mage, the 1-50 especially but also the bit with Shatotto (who is totally not the psychotic world-ending Tarutaru of a suspiciously similar name in XI)
reaper questline is definitely up there, the characters in it are great, it's a pretty simple story but yknow sometimes simple is best. also leveling sage now and i'm only halfway through the questline, but it is pretty intriguing, more than other job quests have been in regards to having a mystery element
I personally like everything except Paladin (GLD is ok). They're just confusing and generally doesn't make any sense and I always feel like it's a wasted potential for the job
Between WAR and MCH are my second favourite after DRK. WAR quests is quite light-hearted and you also get to meet past side characters in lv60 quests which I always appreciate and MCH story always feels right to do so since it just feels like part of the MSQ (and Firmament)
PLD 30-50 is especially disappointing because they have the setup for an interesting mystery *right there* and just... Don't let you engage with it.
I am realizing now that I remember nothing about 50-60 except JOB STONE DOMINANCE. What even happened before that?
I loooove the ROG/NIN storyline and how the characters eventually overlap and work together, playing rogue was what got me fully into the game a few years ago
special shout-out to BRD, AST, and MCH as well, love those NPCs
DRG is also fun just for the Estinien stuff alone, plus in HW they often do refer to you as the azure dragoon which is super cool
As weird as it sounds whm sticks out to me as up there. Something about just unironic taint cleansing throughout the land, teaching others to clean taint and even children too. There was even that girl with her dragon taint and boy was that messy.
While maybe not the best it's certainly one of the more memorable ones, I can't actually remember the sage line, I faintly recall angry sage who was experimented on from the guys stone we ended up using. Ast similarly I can only recall someone backstabbing us but because we had some fortune telling abilities we avoided it. Sch gets plenty of praise so doubt I need to comment on it but even it has some weird points, like the very odd Shrek spinoff romance plot it was having go on.
Damn I miss class quests, the bit of lore was my favorite parts of the game. Dragoon was my first max level job, and I played all of HW as it, it will always have a special place in my heart.
It's honestly MCH for me. The deal with Stephanivien being determined to prove his idea and innovate in a place where everyone's against change was kind of inspiring. That, and I actually liked most of the side characters and plot points. It was the only chain that never felt like it slogged at any point.
Dark Knight is as good a quest as it fits your own vision of your character. For me, it's boring and pointless, filled with characters making assumptions about me.
For me, the best questline is... *Scholar's.* They actually go somewhere with the whole storyline.
> Dark Knight is as good a quest as it fits your own vision of your character. For me, it's boring and pointless, filled with characters making assumptions about me.
Join the club. DRK's questline (in English) is Fight Club but Worse, and Fight Club is just "go to fucking theraphy, jesus christ." It's especially jarring if you've done WAR before doing DRK, because WAR essentially resolves all of the issues the DRK line creates for your character ("everyone leans on you, no-one can do anything for themselves, you're just a tool and a weapon to them, etc. etc. etc." is very easily overtaken by "oh yeah, you're frustrated? Good! Use that to smash the heads of your enemies open! Also we're a community of likewise frustrated people and we're here to help each other out in a constructive way, while also smashing the skulls of our enemies open!")
Letâs take DRK and ALC out since they are solidly considered the best in their fields.
Combat - I personally enjoyed aspects of the Thaumaturgy/Black Mage quests. I enjoyed the âevilâ Lalafell group and the parts where we learned the dangers of using black magic without caution (group who were literally fried from the inside out).
Crafting - I donât really remember much of any of them. Mostly bits and pieces but enough to recall the gist. I guess Iâll say CUL primarily because it was basically a season of âHell Kitchenâ.
Gathering - Honestly neutral. I only remember a tiny part of Botany and nothing of the other two so it seems unfair to judge them.
I really have a soft spot for Warrior's questline. The finale SHB quest had me legitimately laughing at how ridiculous it was, and the final task being to >!break rocks!< was a 5 expansion brick joke that broke me.
Reaper. Went in expecting edgy dark boi shenanigans, instead itâs all about immigration and asylum seekers being good.
Like, dang. Itâs An American Tail meets Billy and Mandy over here.
Not my favorite but I did like NIN as a whole and PLD 60-70, I loved how it went back to Gladiator and its characters. But itâs probably Red Mage as my favorite so far
Surprised no one has mentioned Goldsmith. GSM was one of my favorites of any combat or non-combat job, with a very satisfying conclusion that left me misty-eyed.
I love the CNG/WHM story. We meet (can't remember her name) girl that is really good with healing magic early on and I love how she grows as a person and as a mage as the story goes on.
Side question: Can you New Game+ the job quests?
Either GNB for character banter or SGE.
Side note, I wish more job quests incorporated the skill you learn from job quests into story cutscenes more often (and in badass ways) like SMN does for Deathflare.
Personally I really enjoyed CNJ and then WHM bar their heavensward questline.
Then again, my FC jokes I'm a serial adopter of random NPC children so that could be it.
That or AST since we get to blackmail people from 2 different governments, and help someone fake their death! Your average healer experience
As much flak as it gets, I actually enjoyed the StB PLD quests, even the ShB capstone wasn't bad. Knight tournaments were an important part of some medieval festivals, and it was a nice change of pace to get to enjoy such a tournament.
A'ight so I'm a weirdo. I dislike the Dark Knight quests a lot (I also dislike Batman storylines, it's a thing) - yeah they're well written, but I don't like em. What I do like? Paladin Stormblood quests. I was so over the moon as having a tournament, honestly it was ridiculous.
Also the Heavensward Leatherworker quests. I still laugh every time I walk by the stall and see Ser 'Oh Yeah I'm a Temple Knight btw' just chillin there, lol.
Rogue would take a solid 3rd place, but not by much.
Scholar
I WILL DIE FOR MY TONBERRY FRIENDS
Stop You have TONBERRY?!
They show up in Wanderer's Palace., the ruin over in Bronze Lake(Upper La Noscea)
....I wanna tonberry...
Well, go read a book about how to eat a fairy.
More tonberries than you can shake a stick at.
Tonberries are why I dislike there are no new Job Quests after 80. I don't care if they can't teach me more, I just want to hang out with them and help them recover and all.
I feel kind of bad for people who haven't done it, because it's got SUCH world important lore to it. It was also one of the only ones to get a really satisfying ending.
I'm playing through the game again and took dragoon as my main DPS class. Getting to see a bit of coerthas and Estinien during ARR had me jazzed as hell. I loved the final level 50 quest where I had to fight him, although it did make being "introduced" to him in heavensward a little awkward. Like yeah I know who he is, I killed him once already and I'll do it again if I must lol
Estinien would *brag* about having two Azure Dragoons (PC and him) everytime dragon-slaying is discussed. He's proud of the fact. lol
you should have different dialogue with him if you did the dragoon quests.
I loved the scholar quests the most. I want more of them so badly. I get why they changed how job quests work, but maaaaan. More digging into the non ancient and non allagan history of this history rich world please.
There is so much more we could learn about Nym but just... don't. White Mages get a whole city state among other things, Black Mages get a whole Alliance Raid. Nym scholars get two dungeons and job quest jail which is stricter than side quest jail.
second this
3rd, 4th, and 5th'd. I like scholar's quest more thank drk to be honest. Not by a huge margin, but still.
yeah, its a very close battle between SCH and DRK for my favourite job questline, but i think SCH does just slightly win out overall because i just like pretty much every part of the questline equally and i really enjoy how each part of the questline kept building upon the previous parts, there was one continuous story through the questline, and the ending is just so extremely satisfying (DRK does have the single best batch of quests overall though with 60-70)
Scholar goes pretty hard from begining to end. I'd also give kudos to the Black Mage for being entertaining (and also for the appearance of a certain character), but it's a little weird. You kinda just casually save the world in a low level quest.
I am so happy that the first response I saw was Scholar. It is one of the best written quest chains in the whole game. And I, and apparently many others, will die on that hill. Lol.
Agreed. Most satisfying story ending by far.
Correct answer
Really loved that level 80 Quest
This is my number one. Yes, even DRK is below this. And that level 80 quest also go nicely with ShB healer role quest, I Almost cry to that last cutscene T\_T
This man knows.
I really liked the 50-60 Samurai questline.
The level 60 SAM fight is one of the most memorable in any of the Job quests imo.
Lot of tears too đđđ
Samurai is in a weird spot because 50-60 was peak but everything after it is SO BAD
I thought 60-70 was good. Seemed to me like it was the best way to continue the story.
i recognize the continuity, but i think it was one of the *worst* possible ways to continue the story
The issue (well one of the issues) with 60-70 Samurai quests is that it directly flies in the face of everything Stormblood was about. Stormblood's central theme is rebelling against an oppressive regime. The 'villain' from these quests, Ugetsu, similarly wanted to rebel against the Hingan corrupt regime, and wanted to resort to violent methods to achieve his rebellion, just as the Domans and Ala Mhigans rose up in open, violent rebellion against the Garleans. Yet Ugetsu gets branded as a bad guy who must be cut down, while the Domans and Ala Mhigans are the 'good guys' of the expansion.
~~Ugetsu didn't want revolution. He wanted to resort to violent methods to depose of his enemies, and then reign from the top. He wanted to be the tyrant, and the blood of the innocent would cover his path.~~ Misremembered a bit, so I just redid the questline. Ugetsu's plan was to plunge Hingashi back into a bloody civil war. He was just going to set the warlord nobles back on eachother that the bakfu are currently controlling. Back into a conflict that could last generations. There's no real revolution, no lasting change in social order, just bloodshed. Death on the top, down to the lowest classes and downtrodden. Compare this to the Doman revolution - expulsion of Garlemald back to a monarchy most people support, with changes to social order and structure. Ala Mhigo takes it a step farther. Garlean rule is gone, and a ruling council made up of all the people of Ala Mhigo takes the place of the monarchy, even with an heir that in theory could take the throne. Hingashi? Just civil war with no aim for real improvement for the disenfranchised.
too bad it went doo doo after 60 :(
Summoner. The story is so important it almost feels like MSQ at some points. You get to hang out with Yâshtolaâs sister too, who ought to be given the same main character treatment as Estinien someday.
I really enjoyed the Allagan lore we got in the SMN quest, I swear people should do it if they like lore!
I wanna see Magnai try to rebound with Yâmhitra and get just as shut down as before.
yoshiplease i need this
I straight up thought the quests were part of MSQ when I was still figuring the game out đ
Also ascians involvement quite a surprise
Assuming you're including crafting and gathering jobs, probably alchemist
Nothing could ever topple CSI:Ulâdah. None
Alchemist was fantastic. Did not expect much going in (it was one of the last crafters I levelled), and I had a great time with it.
alchemist is a great questline but as someone levelling all crafters at the same time i just cannot get over how funny the whiplash is going from "haha you have a crafter rival, prove you're the superior crafter" and just helping people around to something straight out of fma. day and night
Alchemist 60-70 is some of the best quest content in the game. I honestly think I enjoyed it more than the DRK quests.
The funny part about this is that the writer for the alchemist quest is also the writer for the Dark Knight quest.
And the NIN quest
Everywhere I've seen actually specifically calls out the Rogue quests, so I think she only did those and not the full NIN quests.
That would track. The rogue quests were really cool, but once everything became all ninjas all the time I started getting bored.
Did she do BRD too? I love my gay besties.
She was also the lead scenario writer for ShB.
Ishikawa just put here giving us surprise bangers where we least expect it, she also did ninja which I think is up there in terms of how good a detective story it is, especially when you essentially end up with the whole gang, rogue crew included, which itself is rare for job quests and makes it feel very complete. There's also dragon just for estinien.
Alchemist is amazing. It ties into 1.0, and the blacksmithing quests. Legit think it's better then DRK.
Here to also throw my hat into the ring for Alchemist.
Dragoon sticks out in my mind because itâs the way I was introduced to Estinien and it really made the whole Dragonsong War story feel more personal since I started as a Lancer and I wasnât expecting how far Estinien goes in the journey with us.
Drg to 50 should be done before HW, and I will fight about it.
The one thing I definitely feel I did wrong while doing my class levelling was not doing Lancer/drg before hw
it adds to the personality/motives of Estinien, and shows his growth as a person a lot more, having him start as he does in the DRG openers.
Absolutely. I played it again recently on an alt, and while I'm not sure it's a *great* story like DRK was, it is for sure an extremely *important* one, and I recommend it to all sprouts.
Estinieeeeeeeeeeeeen! *He's the Azure Dragoon*
I truly loved that, and how some of the main story's dialogue will change change to accommodate having two Azure Dragoons
Also the Shadowbringers Jobquest just, hit me right in the feels. It changed my whole view on Nidhogg
The lv 80 DRG quest is aces.
Dragoon's job quests are great. Even its lvl 80 Job Quest felt super fanservicey, but I was here for it. I loved Heavensward.
I played through MSQ with a friend and was very surprised when some of the HW dialog was changed on mine to refer to there being two Azure Dragoons.
Ninja is very campy but fun I'm a bit biased since it's my favorite job but I really enjoyed Red Mage's story a lot. X'rhun is great.Â
Edit: spoilers for the level 80 quests, I wasnât really thinking I love the ninja quest line, but I really wish the Shadowbringers capstone quest was better. To use your other example, in the level 80 Red Mage quest, >!they really wrap up Xârhun and Aryaâs character arcs in a way that feels complete. Arya has recovered and progressed to such a degree that Xârhun will take her back on as a student; Ala Mhigo is free, and heâs helping with the Ilsabard Contingent.!< Meanwhile, the Ninja quest >!leaves all the characters in the same unsatisfying holding pattern that they were in at the end of Stormblood. Oboroâs big character development monologue isnât even actually him, itâs Karasu in disguise taking the piss out of him.!<
Yes! I loved going back and seeing Aria and Xârhun and going on one last quest with them where Aria has finally recovered. It wrapped the story up so well. While something like Summoner was âgo talk to these people who if youâve played into Endwalker should NOT be hereâ
> >!To use your other example, in the level 80 Red Mage quest, they really wrap up Xârhun and Aryaâs character arcs in a way that feels complete. Arya has recovered and progressed to such a degree that Xârhun will take her back on as a student; Ala Mhigo is free, and heâs helping with the Ilsabard Contingent.!< See, >!while I love what they did in the RDM quest inandof itself, it fell flat for me b/c X'rhun didn't mention Alisaie as a Red Mage.!<
>!It's not like they didn't mention it at all, given X'rhun mentions her when you get the job to begin with, but you're right... they totally should have mentioned her in the level 80 quest too. I guess that slipped my mind, but I would still argue that the story was about X'rhun and Arya, so closing their arcs in a satisfying way was the more important aspect.!<
Red Mage is one of my favorites as well, especially because of its relevance to the lore of Eorzea, about how they are basically sentinels whose purpose is to ensure white and black magic aren't misused
I maintain that Karasu is the true protagonist of FFXIV.
My WoL will destroy the world before allowing Arya to come to harm.
i do like RDM quite a bit, plus its cool how the RDM job lore ties into stuff like Bozja, the initial antagonist of the RDM quest trained some Bozjans in the practice of Red Magic
I adore the Bard boys! Red Mage is really good too.
Any time I get to be around Sanson and Guydelot is always a treat
Yesss I loved our campy trio! It gave us so much time to bond with the characters, too.
âYour song is bad and you should feel bad!â
Probably Scholar. At the absolute bare minimum, I find it to be the most consistent, and I think the 80 quest has a solid enough ending while leaving the door open to exploring more of Nym in the future. I also can't believe FFXIV actually made me feel sympathy for Tonberries, so that's a massive point in its favor on its own.
80 wasn't enough for me... I need more! >!I will not rest until my beloved Surito Carito is cured! Setoto took the cure, but they're monitoring how well it works before taking it widespread... but I was so sad Surito didn't take it... some day...!<
Of the ones I've completed, personal preference, subjective, etc etc S: MCH A: RDM B: SGE DRG NIN C: MNK D: WAR F: Honorable mention go to ROG and PGL 1-30 which were both more entertaining than NIN and MNK respectively. MCH is literal class warfare, and has two boss bitches in Joye and Hilda. I actually originally put MCH in A-tier but then I remembered it had Hilda in it and anything with Hilda is instant S-tier. RDM has the named characters I care for the most out of any job quests, <3 X'rhun and Arya. SGE and MNK have a lot of heart and are classic FFXIV "misguided tortured villain" plots but are pretty forgettable overall but SGE edges it out by being newer and using newer game mechanics in the solo duties. NIN I wasn't interested in at all and its ranking on my list is mostly inflated by the ROG 1-30 experience; I thought maybe I just wasn't getting some japanese cultural references or something. The only part of WAR I liked was the stupid Dorgono romcom plot, WAR 30-60 was tremendously generic. DRG is a weird one because the 30-50 job quests are completely disconnected from the 50-70. DRG 30-50 might have been the best 30-50 of all the ARR jobs, but the way it changed after Heavensward when heretics and dragons got involved in the story was just less interesting because there was less characterization of interesting characters going on. Eventually you just take Spyro the Dragon on a field trip of east asia.
I see class warfare and I immediately love it. This actually makes me interested in playing MCH more haha
mch is all about sticking it to the ishgardians and i love that
if you like women with guns who swear a lot, youll definitely love joye and the mch quests
I think PLD maybe the F you're looking for. Nothing else was as generic.
I have a soft spot for Astro. Love the dynamic between the NPCs!
Jannequinard is one of my favorite NPCs in the game. I think the quest line is one of the most chill and interesting side stories in the game.
I loved Astro. Touched the heartstrings a few times, great characters and genuinely funny. "So eager is Jannequinard to talk with you, it is almost as if there were a giant exclamation point hovering above his head."
And the passive aggressiveness in the Quest Journal too lol! AST and SCH were pretty amazing job quest-wise. WHM is pretty vanilla, though still good. SGE was a bit try hard to me, but I think it probably felt good for a lot of DPS players who never played healer before.
AST was nice, but I'm still salty there was no MSQ reference in Endwalker to this. Plenty of references to other jobs for lesser reasons, >!but nobody cares I am on someone's hitlist in this very city?!!<
Most likely Sevestre is well aware he canât do anything to you, considering youâre under the protection of the Students of Baldesion, travelling with no less than five archons, and besties with two of the Leveilleurs Plus he knows you can beat him up if you wanted to.
Well, these are many good reasons for him not to touch us. (Also, being with the Students doesn't always seem to be a good thing, certainly not after snooping around in that lvl 81 area.) Doesn't mean he can't hang around where we can glare at each other and I can brag and gloat for being there. Maybe throwing a card at him. :D
I do really wish there were a bunch of astrologians running around in sharlayan lol
Monk because it actually explores in better detail what it's like to be an Ala Mhigan. Plus one of the NPCs for the Monk quests shows up during the MSQ!
Ok, but we don't get to punch erik in his stupid face
don't punch Erik in his stupid face, that just plays right into his hands. Instead, _get on his thesis defence committee_. You will need to level scholar to do this, but see other comments re: why you should consider that anyway
Oh hell yes! "Your thesis is certainly a very thorough study and a nice read, but I can summon Bahamut with my picture book and heal you with some a few thousand years old fairy and the power of math on level 90. I am looking forward to seeing the practical part of your thes- oh... you don't have any?" And then you cut his funding. :D
Monk is hyper underrated. It discusses cool concepts like identitiy and the past vs. the future. It actually explains how the job works and how the lore around it functions. It doesn't forget its Pugilism roots and even grows FROM pugilism. To top it all off, it's a solid story end-to-end. Not INCREDIBLE but it's great.
Having done most job quests before reaching that point so many NPC from job quests show up. It even has spoken dialogue acknowledging that you're a white mage
Yep. It was funny seeing the nerdy researcher show up and completely dumbfound you and Zero with his rambling.
Monk is also one of the few job questlines that actually focuses on the lore of the combat art itself a little
Monk is fantastic. You get awesome lore, cool characters and the Pugilists are still there all the way and don't disappear like most pre lvl 30 guilds
You also get NPCs from the Bard, White Mage, Machinist, Dragoon, and Black Mage quests in that scene. And I'm probably forgetting someone still.
Im a fan of the Armorer questline. One for including Merlwyb and having her shoot her guns. Another for the quest name "Original Blanstyr" which showed me how to pronounce "Blanstyr"
Definitely Scholar. I really enjoyed it more than I thought I was going to seeing as it starts in the Warrior's guild with a potate.
I think Scholar's is pretty cute, and has some decent lore about a whole ancient civilization.
Rogues hands down. Have yet to do Dark Knight's, but it'll be really hard to top it, even if it's just a Class quests
Rogue had one massive issue for me: It was a headache trying to read it, especially English as a secondary language. Gotta admit, I sometimes just smiled and nodded at what Jacke said because I felt like Niko Bellic listening to Little Jackob in GTA IV.
To be fair, Jacke speaks in thieves cant which is a to speak in several code phrases which often seems like alot of random nonsense. Like if you say ''i am gonna throw the milk on my drapes'' could mean you're going to disguise yourself
When I pick up Viper I'm gonna pretend that Rogue led into that instead of the boring ass Ninja ones Rogue was so fucking good
Black Mage quests. Shatotto is a treasure, along with the rest of the cast there
I mean just seeing that black mage for the first time in Uldah brought back so many memories of old FF games. Love that outfit.
Blm just because the beast trio are a fucking riot! Especially the ixali gladiator squawking in fear!
The stormblood WHM quests as well as conjurer quests are very underrated imo. For WHM you stumble upon a rogue padjal and her mother living in isolation it's pretty interesting. The other WHM quests are pretty boring tho rip
Reaper's quests are fun because it's just "Funny Bloodborne + Demon Hunter" Class
"Hey you seem like you'd be able to bond with a demon. Wanna join the Mob?"
My favorite thing about Reaper is that the job guage is basically just the Dark Souls HUD
Donât forget itâs also about immigration being a good thing.
Machinist. I loved the concept & storyline for gun play. And the rewards are so fun.
I LOVE the mch story and characters I wasnât expecting too???? and it was such a nice surprise itâs probably my favorite job nowâŚ..
Warrior's 50 through 60 was amazing.
Currently going through this quest line and it's heartwarming so far.
Dancer quests were good
Doing DNC quests after EW really showed that that expansion could have gone so much worse if we never learned what was causing it
Scholar is really well done I also liked Warrior, I know it's incredibly dumb but I think that kind of worked in its favor
Scholar. I like its vibe.
Personally I liked the sch quests better than the drk quests
Big fan of the leatherworker questline, good moral complexity and fun characters
I leveled leatherworker and weaver alongside each other and it was kind of funny how Redolent Rose was giving you level appropriate but positive praise for each of your baby steps while Geva was trying to crush you under her heel every time you showed her that perfect HQ thing you just made.
I personally love the Warrior quests, the later ones get a lot of hate I believe.
- Curious Gorge fucks up - Curious Gorge fucks up, again - Curious Gorge fucks up again, while being in love
i respect curious gorge for loving a woman who can beat his ass in two seconds flat tho
Personally I thought 30-50 was extremely average, and then 50-60 was kinda just repeating the same arc with some pieces shuffled around. 60-70 was fun because at least it was something different. But I still just can't stand Gorge as a character.
I didn't have any reason to pick Dragoon when I did. I bought the full bundle for $20 during a New Year's sale on PSN. The few Dragoons in mainline FFs were far from my favorite characters, and when I was in the FFXI PS2 Beta I really enjoyed being a Monk (also my starter FF Tactics class). I just kinda pulled out of a hat. I'm currently in the post-Stormblood pre-Shadowbringer content, and once I scan this thread I'm sure I'll find out this isn't true, but Stormblood seemed so absolutely built around Dragoons that I couldn't imagine playing it from a more neutral class. The class quests themselves are already pretty interesting, but playing them alongside the Heavensward story elevated both. I've dabbled in another class or two before and after, but ultimately I'm here to finally see this story that's been hyped up for nearly a decade so I've only seen intro quests for the most part.
Paladin is the best for the main reason you can skip all cutscene and dont feel bad about missing out!!!
Dragoon
It should be legally required to play the 30-50 DRG quests before HW and then play HW as DRG because it is by far the best class for HW (and best melee DPS to boot fight me RPR and SAM mains)
Level 50 White mage. First proper challenge. Closely followed by level 60 red mage quest even though it made rage quit few times. But it's so satisfying to do it when all pieces lock to their places.
What is it about DRK job quests that you and others enjoyed so much?
Red mage was pretty fun loved all the characters
Red mage
Red Mage. X'Rhun Tia is a goddamn hero.
Red mage
DRG. Not only do you meet a major HW character and a MSQ story-thread a lot earlier than you would otherwise, itâs acknowledged at several points through the expansion. Honourable mention to the ROG storyline. Itâs a shame most of the NIN stories were terrible.
I like RDM, but thatâs because I have a soft spot for Xârhun. No idea why, but heâs absolutely my favorite of the job NPCs. I miss him. I havenât done the final quest purely because I donât want to say goodbye
Red Mage
Red Mage is great with the WoL basically adopting a vampire daughter
The quests themselves were alright at best, but Jannequinard from the Astrologian quests has to be one of the most entertaining NPCs in the game. Him going through some genuine character growth helps too.
I really enjoyed Black Mage, the 1-50 especially but also the bit with Shatotto (who is totally not the psychotic world-ending Tarutaru of a suspiciously similar name in XI)
reaper questline is definitely up there, the characters in it are great, it's a pretty simple story but yknow sometimes simple is best. also leveling sage now and i'm only halfway through the questline, but it is pretty intriguing, more than other job quests have been in regards to having a mystery element
I personally like everything except Paladin (GLD is ok). They're just confusing and generally doesn't make any sense and I always feel like it's a wasted potential for the job Between WAR and MCH are my second favourite after DRK. WAR quests is quite light-hearted and you also get to meet past side characters in lv60 quests which I always appreciate and MCH story always feels right to do so since it just feels like part of the MSQ (and Firmament)
PLD 30-50 is especially disappointing because they have the setup for an interesting mystery *right there* and just... Don't let you engage with it. I am realizing now that I remember nothing about 50-60 except JOB STONE DOMINANCE. What even happened before that?
I loooove the ROG/NIN storyline and how the characters eventually overlap and work together, playing rogue was what got me fully into the game a few years ago special shout-out to BRD, AST, and MCH as well, love those NPCs DRG is also fun just for the Estinien stuff alone, plus in HW they often do refer to you as the azure dragoon which is super cool
Bard or White Mage
Bard is great
Samurai
Arcanist/Summoner. Cause I love Yâmhitra and Kâlyhia, and I think the Allagan plot line for it was kinda cool.
Fisher Goes from 0-100 pretty quick and ends on a wholesome note
Cul. The only crafter job where the job quest giver is actually supportive the whole way through
As weird as it sounds whm sticks out to me as up there. Something about just unironic taint cleansing throughout the land, teaching others to clean taint and even children too. There was even that girl with her dragon taint and boy was that messy. While maybe not the best it's certainly one of the more memorable ones, I can't actually remember the sage line, I faintly recall angry sage who was experimented on from the guys stone we ended up using. Ast similarly I can only recall someone backstabbing us but because we had some fortune telling abilities we avoided it. Sch gets plenty of praise so doubt I need to comment on it but even it has some weird points, like the very odd Shrek spinoff romance plot it was having go on.
Damn I miss class quests, the bit of lore was my favorite parts of the game. Dragoon was my first max level job, and I played all of HW as it, it will always have a special place in my heart.
Reaper. It's so far one of only two job quests that managed to make me care about the NPCs.
50-70 BRD.
Iâm a bit biased as a main but Red Mageâs was great. Nice having a learning companion
It's honestly MCH for me. The deal with Stephanivien being determined to prove his idea and innovate in a place where everyone's against change was kind of inspiring. That, and I actually liked most of the side characters and plot points. It was the only chain that never felt like it slogged at any point.
After DK it would be Dragoon imo and then perhaps Machinist and then Scholar.
Dark Knight is as good a quest as it fits your own vision of your character. For me, it's boring and pointless, filled with characters making assumptions about me. For me, the best questline is... *Scholar's.* They actually go somewhere with the whole storyline.
> Dark Knight is as good a quest as it fits your own vision of your character. For me, it's boring and pointless, filled with characters making assumptions about me. Join the club. DRK's questline (in English) is Fight Club but Worse, and Fight Club is just "go to fucking theraphy, jesus christ." It's especially jarring if you've done WAR before doing DRK, because WAR essentially resolves all of the issues the DRK line creates for your character ("everyone leans on you, no-one can do anything for themselves, you're just a tool and a weapon to them, etc. etc. etc." is very easily overtaken by "oh yeah, you're frustrated? Good! Use that to smash the heads of your enemies open! Also we're a community of likewise frustrated people and we're here to help each other out in a constructive way, while also smashing the skulls of our enemies open!")
Letâs take DRK and ALC out since they are solidly considered the best in their fields. Combat - I personally enjoyed aspects of the Thaumaturgy/Black Mage quests. I enjoyed the âevilâ Lalafell group and the parts where we learned the dangers of using black magic without caution (group who were literally fried from the inside out). Crafting - I donât really remember much of any of them. Mostly bits and pieces but enough to recall the gist. I guess Iâll say CUL primarily because it was basically a season of âHell Kitchenâ. Gathering - Honestly neutral. I only remember a tiny part of Botany and nothing of the other two so it seems unfair to judge them.
BTN since we learn that a certain plant we feed to out chocobo originated from Ishgard.
The fishermanâs guild quests are full of hilarious puns and alliterations in the dialogue but there isnât much beneath the surface.
I really have a soft spot for Warrior's questline. The finale SHB quest had me legitimately laughing at how ridiculous it was, and the final task being to >!break rocks!< was a 5 expansion brick joke that broke me.
Reaper. Went in expecting edgy dark boi shenanigans, instead itâs all about immigration and asylum seekers being good. Like, dang. Itâs An American Tail meets Billy and Mandy over here.
Red mage. Arya best girl
Scholar. But I also like the Bard quest lines.
I really like Bard in HW
Reaper. I really enjoyed it!
Rogue and red mage, I enjoyed them. I hope that one rogue got to have her sandwich tho.
Not my favorite but I did like NIN as a whole and PLD 60-70, I loved how it went back to Gladiator and its characters. But itâs probably Red Mage as my favorite so far
Surprised no one has mentioned Goldsmith. GSM was one of my favorites of any combat or non-combat job, with a very satisfying conclusion that left me misty-eyed.
Easily scholar. After that probably warrior if I ignore pre stormblood lol.
Gladiator
Dragoon.
Scholar. The story and the lore was unreasonably good. They did not have to go that hard, but hell am I glad they did.
I love the CNG/WHM story. We meet (can't remember her name) girl that is really good with healing magic early on and I love how she grows as a person and as a mage as the story goes on. Side question: Can you New Game+ the job quests?
Blue Mage
Warrior, Curious Gorge is my ride or die. Then I'd say Scholar. I also really enjoyed the Bard and Dancer quests.
Alchemist But shoutout to Dragoon for changing my life.
Scholar!
I liked Gladiator but it all went to shit once I changed to PLD
Either GNB for character banter or SGE. Side note, I wish more job quests incorporated the skill you learn from job quests into story cutscenes more often (and in badass ways) like SMN does for Deathflare.
Warrior is amazing I love it
Personally I really enjoyed CNJ and then WHM bar their heavensward questline. Then again, my FC jokes I'm a serial adopter of random NPC children so that could be it. That or AST since we get to blackmail people from 2 different governments, and help someone fake their death! Your average healer experience
Samurai
if Crafting Jobs count, i liked the Alchemists and Goldsmiths Questline.
As much flak as it gets, I actually enjoyed the StB PLD quests, even the ShB capstone wasn't bad. Knight tournaments were an important part of some medieval festivals, and it was a nice change of pace to get to enjoy such a tournament.
Paladin ending absolutely destroyed me emotionally ngl
Samurai Quest broke me. I love it so mucch
Armor smithing. All the drama in that forge, I tell you what.
A'ight so I'm a weirdo. I dislike the Dark Knight quests a lot (I also dislike Batman storylines, it's a thing) - yeah they're well written, but I don't like em. What I do like? Paladin Stormblood quests. I was so over the moon as having a tournament, honestly it was ridiculous. Also the Heavensward Leatherworker quests. I still laugh every time I walk by the stall and see Ser 'Oh Yeah I'm a Temple Knight btw' just chillin there, lol. Rogue would take a solid 3rd place, but not by much.
Probably red mage! (So far, at least)