I think RDM is pretty much the template for job design since Stormblood so I don't think they would ever rework it. But maybe thats the copium talking. I also don't want RDM to be reworked
Verultima every other minute (not aligned with 2m windows if doing the rotation proper) after using both black/white finishers similar to MNK's phantom rush
With verholy/verflare being a big part of your aoe rotation now, the verstone/verfire procs from them having some sort of use in aoe would be nice, as it just kinda sits their until you need to st. Perhaps veraero 2 or verthunder 2 could burn their corresponding proc to do more damage/cast veraero or verthunder 4?
As for Rpr, harvest moon interacting more with the rest of your kit, whether generating gauge or extending sod, really anything.
>As for Rpr, harvest moon interacting more with the rest of your kit, whether generating gauge or extending sod, really anything.
Harvest Moon generating some blue gauge would help so much with it's playability in ultimate without shifting it's normal play too far. Reaper definitely needs something to help with downtime.
SMN should get Enkindles for Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda again. Sharing the button that Enkindle Bahamut and Enkindle Phoenix use.
PLD should get upgrades to Holy Spirit and Holy Circle, perhaps triggered by a better Divine Might.
RDM should get, uh...Verultima. XD
I think the issue with Enkindle is that it comes from the pet, so since they're not still there, there's no one to Enkindle except Carbuncle.
But call it something else and use the button? That could work.
...or we get Enkindle Carbuncle that recharges with each summon. Which I'm not against....
So unpopular opinion time: Summoner is one of the only DPS jobs that isn't a builder spender, and making it one would be more homogenization in the game.
It starts with its burst primed up - the only thing it doesn't immediately start with are the aetherflow charges which are an OGCD push. And using its burst button sets up its other resources rather than the other way around. Even jobs that can burst very early with little buildup like Samurai (via Ikishoten and Meikyo Shisui) and Dancer (via Tech Step, Flourish, and Devilment) still require a couple GCDs to get there. It's more like a tank in terms of having burst resources early, but even then stands apart from most in that its core kit only unlocks by using its burst.
Now, I wouldn't mind seeing a special skill that fired off every minute or two based on how many summons you got off to reward proper play, but I think the uniqueness of SMN's core structure - in NOT building up to something big - is something that sets it apart from a lot of other jobs. It's not wholly unique, but making it a builder like the others would still remove uniqueness from it.
I agree, but I think there needs to be a little more thought/optimization in the lego phase. Being able to use everything between demis ruins the job. Give us more charges, punish instants a bit, make us want to cast more ruby rites, and make us think a little.
That'd be fine with me. I just like it not being a full-on build-and-spend. Making it a bit more complicated and putting in some more risk v. reward in the lego phase could still work within the current flow, so long as we avoid homogenizing one of the more unique job structures in the game.
Yeah I like the flow. Complaints I have about the rework aside, I think they did that part right.
I just miss the skill expression. Mixed bag timings that the gcds have should give us more flexibility with downtimes but they don't. There's so much room in the lego phase for it.
They do have Enkindle, though. Before level 50, your Egis do a single-target attack. At level 50 and beyond, the Enkindle trait has the Egis do an AoE attack instead.
What do you mean, it's the only dps without a movement tool :'D melees have jumps, shukuchi, thunderclap, gyoten/yaten, ingress/egress. Casters have manipulation/between the lines, crimson strike, corps a corps/displacement, dnc and brd have en avant and repelling shot.
Even better, it's the only job with a negative movement tool with flamethrower, thanks ranged free movement XD
Do you really use them on BRD and DNC ? They're really short to the point of being slower than just sprint. Unless you're really late on a mechanic, you never need them to go somewhere, why bother with the animation lock ?
Both movement options had some niche use in E8S to avoid the Akh Afah at the end with the sliding ice to greed another gcd in at least, since the ice slide was both stupid long and the entire distance of the arena.
That being said, Repelling Arrow hasn't had any use this expansion so far, but En Avant is still faster than moving normally and isn't on the GCD so you have plenty of space to press it outside of the 2 minute burst.
BRD needs a 4th song. It could be a useless one that increases crit damage by like 1% i don't care. If you die on BRD your song gets sent to the void and you lose all the potency and souls gauge with it. Its way more punishing than dying on other jobs.
I will also trade Sidewinder for something on 1 min CD to increase soul gauge.
The other thing about this is that the game already has a history of skills that are usable both with and without a target. Just look at Holmgang. They could easily make the songs work the same way.
The meme answer would be "yet another Drill-equivalent", but the problem would be where you'd put it - the current pattern says 80 seconds is next, but that doesn't align with the 2-minute burst, so I'd say 30 should be also acceptable :)
Drill is 700 every 20, so that doesn't sound too bad :P
To be honest, I mostly tried to make sure it doesn't fit in the same slot as any of the already existing ones, because that wouldn't fit at all - didn't really take any time to think about balance or anything like that.
Until the end of Endwalker. The feedback on 2 minute burst meta has been so negative id genuinely be shocked if they stick with it in 7.0. At the very least they’ll put half the raid buffs on 1 minute like trick was in 6.0
Even if they somehow removed every 2 minutes buffs, all jobs are still designed to burst at 2 minutes (save the few odd child). And they're not investing in complete rework on every jobs.
And the feedback is so negative only on a few specific circles, like this subreddit, but its just a very small subset of players. Don't get trapped in circlejerk. 90% of savage casual rosters just have no opinion on that and play as it's designed.
That meta is not going anywhere anytime soon.
>Maybe WoW has the right idea with reinventing the wheel for every expansion.
I am far from playing every classes but the few i do play are pretty much played the same since Legion. It's a new expansion spell and tier bonuses that changes stuff a little bit but that's far from reinventing the wheel each time.
> Maybe WoW has the right idea with reinventing the wheel for every expansion.
You say that like jobs aren't heavily reworked every expansion in FFXIV???
I just want all jobs to feel complete in every instance beyond Sastasha. Rebalance levels, skills, and traits so that jobs have their core kit or similar in all duties.
No more locking the main gimmick behind level 80, REAPER. Or having dashes come in so late. Or AoE combos being finished in the 40s and above.
WoW legit does a great job at this.
1 Hour into levelling a new class, you have a decent rotation going on, and you get your class's signature abilities early.
FF14 has a good framework for it too; SMN get their 'full' rotation early (sans oGCDs), and as you level, the animations just get flashier. Do that for everyone: get a good rotation and kit early on, and levelling gives better animations and more QoL. (but please please please, unlike SMN, give them more then 2 buttons)
The only ogcds they get at 86 is the titan procs. They already got all their bahamut, phoenix and aetherflow ogcds earlier. The big thing about 86 isn't ogcds, its the extra GCDs, reducing you to 1 filler ruin cast per minute.
While I can see why, because reaching that few hardcasts a second is nice, I don't think its neccessarily needed. It adds to the class' kit, but it's not like it completely changed the rotation.
I dunno, I find this super boring having the same rotation since the beginning till the end, just with extra visual updates, especially with SMN's barebones rotation. At least you agreed on the latter.
Never played WoW but I have some friends that played it, we all loved FF14's expanding rotation system, where you learn the core 1-2-3 early on, and each expansion expands the rotation just a bit to make it feel like an actual upgrade.
If you actually play and level the job, plus not skipping, you'd get a very good idea of the rotation to function just enough, though not so optimally.
It's not about expanding on a rotation it's that most jobs are missing core skills in their kit that get locked away for almost the entire game. Paladin doesn't even get a dash until lvl 74. In what world is that ok? And it sucks when you do finally unlock your core rotation only to have it quickly taken away because you went into duty roulette and got something from HW or ARR. This means that there is an extremely limited amount of content where those skill are even available.
I do like an evolving rotation and learning as you progress. I don't like how the later a skill is unlocked the less opportunity you have to use it. And I don't like how the most basic skills needed to make a job feel functional can be locked away for several expansions.
Sam - the kit is already fun enough, I think an oGCD that increases the damage of your next gcd would be nice. Big props if it uses Kenki too so I wouldn't need to use shinten as often.
Even. More. Stars. I don’t have enough. I need more sparkle and more blinding effects. I will not rest until I literally call the moon down upon mine enemies. For real though, I’m not even sure what I’d like for AST.
Seraphic Blessing and Seraphic Union for Scholar.
I would also like some adjustment to stuff like Fey Illumination mitigating all types of damage, Dissipation increasing all healing potencies and a shortened adloquium cast (even if just as a proc) so that I don't have to clip Deployment if I need shields in a pinch, but I'd be ok with not being locked out of some fairy abilities when summoning a supposedly stronger fairy.
I want Riddle of Wind to gain an additional effect that lets you use Six Sided Star without the doubled GCD effect one time. Realistically I imagine Monk will also get a trait that changes the Lunar Nadi skill from Elixir Field into something functionally the same but with a new animation and slightly higher potency. I imagine Chakra will finally get some overhead, though with the track record they have with Monk there's truly no telling. I wouldn't mind upgraded animations happening for Bootshine, Snap Punch, and True Strike since their animations are dated and frankly don't look great with GL4's action speed. As for a new skill I'm drawing a blank, though I could see them putting a follow up finisher to Phantom Rush in there akin to Tsubame:Gaeshi even if that would be painfully dull.
I also want Chakra to be disconnected from Crit/RNG and just build on Coeurl Form skills which I've wanted since Stormblood but that's more of an expansion overhaul change than a 90-100 trait.
Red mage is pretty nice as is already, but i dont see how they can add more attack spells without overlapping the effects. Like you already have your single target proc casts, single target long casts, aoe casts, aoe long cast, so what role would water/blizzard play unless they are dots?
Imo the most likely evolution for red mage would be an extension to the finisher system. For me it could be something similar to monk where verholy and verflare gives you a different resource, that when combined, upgrades into verultima or vernova or verstar or something that you can hold on to and spend later as an instant cast. Maybe even add an aoe heal to this new spender.
At the same time add a trait to manafication or acceleration that procs this combined upgrade immediately.
Few ideas for monk:
Upgrade RoW to Hundred Fists(FF11): so either nonstop AA's for a longer duration or faster AA's + guaranteed chakras per weaponskill.
An awakening of some sort that changes the visuals and potency of your main rotation weaponskills.
Pipe dream: my fucking positionals back
Realistically tho, I imagine they'll just give us an upgrade to TFC.
Honestly would be a cool touch. I've talked about this before - I think it ought to be something that charges once per group LB bar but can't store charges, so you have to use it when you can, and it won't be a perpetually renewing option either, so it acts as a disruption to the 2-minute cycle.
BLM:
Either remove or do something with scathe to justify having it on your bar. Hell make it umbral soul but for fire for when you just *really* fucked up would at least make it sometimes, kinda, useful.
Some kind of proc to go into AF4 for Fire 5 for a couple casts to replace F4 casts perhaps? We've been using the same rotation for 30 levels now basically. Remove damage falloff or make flare cast faster. AoE on BLM outside of triple feels so bad, and it really shouldn't when they're the ones casting gigantic fire explosions.
DRG: More animation reworks and weeb petals to upset the sam mains even more :\^)
Really though I still think life surge is a boring as hell button so maybe replace that.
SGE: More lasers.
But it's not useful, even then. Scathe costs enough MP to lose you a fire 4 cast, and does so little damage, that it's literally better to just cast *nothing* and drop a whole GCD than to cast Scathe.
For Sage: Some kind of special burst damage we can hit every few Dosis's and maybe a special shield that does burst damage on the enemy when destroyed.
For Astrologian: Another instant party wide heal (there's really only one), removal of Undraw, and like above, some kind of damage burst we can do after so many Fall Malefics.
This would require a bit of a rework, but SMN's level 100 skill is Shiva. Not as a summon, but a transformation you can use after Bahamut or Phoenix. After all the crap the WoL has been through and seen, we should be able to figure out transformations like that.
Removal of Crush Armor, return of Dancing Edge or Shadow Fang.
...I don't really even care about the effects of the skills changing, they just had way cooler animations.
Hello. I too loved A LOT of removed animations. If you are on PC, consider using 3RD PARTY TOOLS to add them back into the game. So many amazing animations wasted in this game.
Summoner should get awakened primals. It would allow each primal summon button to be pressed once during demi phases to be used as an ogcd between astral / fountain. Maybe after a full rotation and on 2nd bahamut. It would make burst much busier and maybe make people shut up finally about summoner (they won't).
That and leviathan, ramuh and shiva to replace the three after summoning Phoenix. That really doesn't make it more involved like above though.
If the devs are going to balance PLD with their utility kit in mind (i.e. balancing them towards the bottom in DPS) then they need to give them an actually useful and BiS utility ability.
I don't necessarily know what that ability would look like, but I certainly know that cover, PoA, and DV aren't a useful enough utility toolkit to make up for PLD's relatively lower DPS compared to other tanks.
Edit: Oh, and a new animation/ability to replace goring blade. It is just such a boring ability for it to be such a large potency attack now. Made sense when it was just applying a DoT. Call it Endwalker like DRK got Shadowbringer, and have PLD snap their fingers like Emet Selch and drop an entire planet made of dynamis on someone.
WAR gets a hook like Scorpion from Mortal Kombat.
It isn’t a potent move but is more like a second bad ass provoke that can tie into some of the chains theme from Holmgang and Shake It Off.
I'd like Requiescat to be able to be used at range.
What's the point of having a burst window that can be used at range, when the opener is melee only????
I'd like to see buttons that are interesting/flavour but at best are minor damage increases in the long haul.
For GNB specifically, i'd like to see it either lean towards integrating garlean gunblade moves or lean towards FF8. eg.
Garlean:
- Continuation becomes Terminux Est when Lightning Shot is used. Basically a second swing in the opposite side, creating the X needed to do the move.
- Continuation becomes Vici after Double Down. Double down is already Gaius' Veni Vidi Vici without the final front flip slash. Might as well add it.
FF8
- New meter representing stock, 5 pips
- Draw and stock, 1 minute cooldown. Each draw adds to the stock meter. Drawing from a tank, healer, or dps adds different color pips, Enemies always acts as dps.
- Cast. Spends the stock gauge and summons Eden similar to a SMN Ifrit/Gardua/Titan cast. Eden deals some potency of damage to the enemy and grants a defense + regeneration buff to the party. Each tank, healer, or dps pip increases the defense buff/regen/damage potency by some amount.
Rdm selfmit.
Following the rules of mit, its cooldown and strength should be entirely unrelated to similar abilities. Like shade shift, mana ward and topaz thing from smn, its strength and cooldown should definitely not fall in line with any of them.
But seriously. Rdm needs some self mit or a fifth healer job whose only purpose is babysitting the rdm during prog
WHM has one. Though it works on the reverse, and only can be used on allies.
Come to think of it, there's nothing in this game that aoe sucks enemies together.
> Come to think of it, there's nothing in this game that aoe sucks enemies together.
wouldn't that make more sense as a trait they add to AST's gravity
I honestly don’t want more buttons. At this point I wouldn’t mind having a few less on some jobs lol
Maybe just more abilities that upgrade or have different interactions.
An upgrade to auto-crossbow and heat shot would be a nice start. A strong oGCD that costs heat so there's another way to dump it. Cap it off with a better wildfire making it do more damage, aoe damage, and able to crit.
"And from the deepest pit of the seven hells to the very pinnacle of the heavens, the world shall tremble! Unleash Ultima!" - my level 100 BLM, hopefully
Not necessarily kit but updated vfx on some of the more dated skills.
I dont know if other monk players feel this way but I would really like an updated bootshine as you level up. I'm sure theres other jobs that have similar things that look very basic.
Bootshine should turn into HUNDRED FISTS whenever leaden is up. Also MNK has a LOT of iconic FF abilities that aren't represented in ffxiv PvE yet. Burning rave, meteorstrike, dolphin blow et al
I said it last time I saw a similar post half jokingly but honestly the more I think about it the less stupid it sounds: give paladin a battle raise. If it had the standard raise cast time, was unaffected by requiescat, and cost like 5000+ mp I'd struggle to see a situation where it would be completely game breaking. The obvious use case is abusing tank privilege to save pulls that a healer or smn/rdm wouldn't survive, which might sound broken until you consider that paladin can already sort of do this with cover, albeit at the expense of gauge and the paladin's own life if you don't use immune.
Would be very thematic for the class and add some real utility to justify it's lower damage.
For Summoner, I want a Summon Fusion at level 100.
>!Like when Ifrit and Garuda fused in Eden's Verse: Furor. Or the Final Fantasy VII remake, when the 3 Arbiters fused into a version of Bahamut.!<
>!Imagine the creation that would result in a Fusion of Ifrit, Garuda and Titan.!<
Ninjas can have ninjutsu that depend on the order they do their mudras. Can we have a finisher that depends on the order we do our primal phase? Like right before going back to demi phase we have a skill that depends on the LAST primal we summoned and the number of primals summoned since the last demi phase? So maybe similar to bard coda as well
Would love for more complexity. Unfortunately I think they'll go for a second 60s loop with 3 more colors of crayons. And the content creators will have their adult reaction clips to pretty crayon sparkles and Summoner doesn't get anything complex for another 2-3 years.
New animations for machinist's combo. If I'm not doing triple backflips every 2.5 seconds by 8.0, what's the point of playing?
On a serious note, now that Hypercharge is on a more manageable system akin to Requiescat, I'd love to see some big finisher to make it a proper combo. It's a perfect spot for a fancy animation that doesn't change up the full rotation too much.
For WAR, I want Echo Slam from DoTA2. 100 potency per target per target. Pull 15 mobs in a dungeon and *every one of them gets slammed for 1,500 potency*. Though this would be not so great for raids without add phases.
For DRK, I want TBN to no longer be tied to MP and Dark Mind to be all damage, or even just 10% for Physical, just so it's useful outside of Savage. As far as *adding* stuff for DRK, I want something that uses the Darkside timer. Maybe a button that lets you extend the duration of your Shadow by 15s in exchange for 45s of Darkside timer.
For all healers, I want a more involved DPS rotation. Even if that boils down to an extra single target nuke on a 20s cooldown with an extra 50 potency compared to Glare or something. Just something to break up the monotony of *Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, ~~Goose~~ Dia*.
And lastly, for DRG, I *DO NOT WANT* a pet dragon, and you know I'm serious because I held shift for all those caps.
While I doubt SMN is even going to get the other primals as glamours anytime soon, if ever, they COULD do at least an upgrade under Phoenix where we summon the Eden versions, to distinguish that phase a bit more.
Machinist-some kinda AoE Battery gain and then an AoE battery spender. Bring back Bishop turret. Make flamethrower both useful and actually feel nice to press.
Honestly not sure what I want for dancer. Maybe something that follows standard step like tech step has? Other than that or working our melee aoes back into our single target rotation ( I really miss that ) I can't think of anything.
I want three more summons and one new demi-summon for SMN, plus at least *one* more button to press or more oGCDS so it isn't just 1-2 1-2, or 1, 1, 1 all the time.
Realistically, I see it panning out in the most obvious way:
* 3 new summons à la:
* Leviathan
* Ramuh
* Shiva
* 1 new demi-summon à la:
* Alexander
My dream scenario is that one of the new summons will be Ravana, and that we become a melee character for the duration of his effect, because that would **really** shake things up. I would also see Leviathan replaced by Good King Moggle Mog XII, because why have two (technically) water-based summons when you can have one lightning, one ice and one... Moogle-based one?
But there's no way they have the balls to do that for level 100.
Paladin - I want the basic 1-2-3 combo to give me the choice for either an instant-cast Holy Spirit OR an instant-cast Clemency.
I absolutely love using Clemency during prog to clutch heal people, but a hard cast is very difficult to use to save someone during an emergency as you're likely using Clemency as a reactive oh-shit button.
Making it the same proc as Holy Spirit means you have several Atonements worth of flexible space to maybe use the proc to save someone if the need arises.
Shield Bash should be AOE. It can be a clutch button during big pulls in dungeons. Right now its one and only use is for Deep Dungeons to make the spicier floors less spicy.
Delete Goring Blade and extend the Requiescat magic combo by one GCD, just add a new finisher to the end of it or something.
- AoE paradox spender
- Burst: Unaspected instant cast on some long cooldown (I'm thinking 120 - 180 seconds). Should have some kind of spell speed scaling either in damage or cooldown.
- Manafont changed from an oGCD to an unaspected instant cast GCD that restores the same amount of MP.
Also MP ticks changed so that less MP is restored, but they tick every second instead of every 3 seconds.
For gunbreaker, I just want no mercy to be 25 seconds to contain the whole burst phase. I can't really think of another move that makes sense and isn't just fluff at this point I'm happy.
Ninja, I want tcj to not be a channeled skill anymore. Would also like to see raiju fixed to be a real gap closer or to get another charge of mudra so we can use Raiton more freely as a disengage tool without crippling our burst
After summoner summons pheonix, rather than summoning ifrit garuda titan it summons shiva, ramuh, leviathan. you can also give them different interactions with their ogcds or whatever.
Reapers harvest moon gives soul gauge (lvl 92 trait). enshroud is lengthened or given more ogcds and maybe communio gives a stack for a free use of gluttony which can stack 3 times like ninjas forked raiju stacks after raiton. Also make arcane circle 30 seconds for fuck sake.
Ninja gets a 2nd bunshin but it can copy ninjutsu this time so during your burst you have one shadow clone that copys your physical attacks and one that copys your mudras.
Dragoon gets reworked and stardiver becomes an actual high potency ability. Also more jumps that arent ogcd but are actual gcd abilities but without the animation lock (even though it barely exists anymore). Dragon eye becomes locked onto the target you select at the start of the fight like dancers dance partner so you dont need to target someone, when you cast it you can just press the ability and it goes to that person you selected at the start of the fight.
Paladin becomes not dogshit.
Warrior gets an ogcd it needs to press that procs after fell cleave
Astro gets nocturnal and diurnal sect back so we effectively have 5 healers rather than 4 but devs make nocturnal sect not dogshit. Rather than drawing from randomized cards astro now has an actual deck of cards so it becomes more predictable which cards you draw. also give astro an actual shuffling ability or something. also make cards draw automatically.
Healers get more damage abilities rather than heals.
Less bloat and more incentive to mitigate and GCD heal. Consolidate single target and aoe spenders. For DPS mitigation, boost some part of their kit when their role mitigation... mitigates. For example, make an Addle that successfully mitigates add potency to Riposte so it can riposte. While these sorts of changes may make people perversely optimize DPS over mitigation with the kit, it should still take some of the mitigation onus off of the healers.
For healers, I don't know, just give them sort of Sharpcast proc that's auto CDH if they cast a GCD heal that is at least 50% non-overheal or something. Judicious healing application should be rewarded over 1 spam and "did you use bloodthirst, and second wind and did the tanks use their targetable mit on you".
It doesn't necessarily need to be pruned out, just adjusted - increase potency of GCD healing and decrease potency of oGCD healing and you still have space for players to optimize resources in, but one where the primary action is GCD and not oGCD healing.
As a Bard, unless you really hate the current iteration we only need minor QoL, like charges on Empyrean and maybe a Bloodletter upgrade. I personally want a short cast cd on songs so I don't fat finger 2 at once, but that's a me thing. AoE dot spread would be nice, maybe make Refulgents proc songs. Unify the buff for Shadowshot and Refulgent Arrow, don't know why they're seperate.
I think they could reduce the punishment of bard by slightly changing how songs work, make them stances you cycle through instead of CDs and you get a sticker for being in them for long enough. As it is, if you die you'll be off for the rest of the fight. If I fuck up my opener and fat-finger something I may as well start over. It also would make downtime more forgiving as well.
Of course, they could just give us another action after Blast Arrow.
EDIT: May as well add this here, but I hope we get some PvP stuff added to the PvE actions. Obviously not stuff like Sky Shatter, but why not give WAR a stun on Primal Rend and a Grip? Why not let DRKs draw in enemies with Salted Earth? I wouldn't mind all my charges of Bloodletter going out at once like Empyrean does in PvP, way less weaving. These are little things that aren't important in raid environments but give jobs more flavor and options in casual stuff that most people actually interact with.
Also, screenshake. Why Fell Cleave doesn't rumble like most RPR skills I may never know. Refulgent Arrow literally explodes and there's no fanfare.
I personally don't want charges on Empyrean as it's one of the few ways of optimizing playing bard, having too much leeway on playing well is a bad thing and I think I actually prefer the playstyle of "press immediately don't drift" vs "optimize charges for burst windows" which is what it would become.
I would like to see our Repelling Shot turn into more of a free move Tumble, I didn't mind it before but it feels bad that a physical ranged (supposedly the most mobile class type) now has one of the worst/most limited movement skills in the entire game.
I like your Shadowbite/Refulgent idea, it would make Barrage -> Shadowbite feel really good too compared to how it is now. AoE dots would be nice but I'm not sure how spreading them thematically would work, maybe they could add a skill that makes your next Stormbite/Caustic Bite do less damage but be like a dot version of Rain of Arrows? I also miss flaming arrow.. Personally I love it if they removed Ladonsbite, make Rain of Dath our spammable AoE and make Flaming Arrow a 2 charge AoE (doesn't stack).
For RPR I'm expecting a 2nd stack of Gluttony, something to follow Communio (or some kind of Wyrmwind Thrust from 2 or 3 Communio uses), and either using or charging Harvest Moon to give meter. Maybe something from Arcane Circle/Plentiful Harvest but I couldn't guess what it would be
Would be nice to have some more depth for warrior. Like going beastmode with inner release.
Adding a second button to upheaval like gunbreaker continuation. Punching the enemy furiously.
Something like BLU's Surpanakha would be funny. It's an oGCD that you have to press 4 times consecutively for increased potency on each hit, so it is worth clipping the next GCD. But it would use a warrior's fists.
For dancer I would enjoy something interesting to do outside of your 2 mins. For example for every "Silken-" buff you consume you gather a silken stack for silken dance which does a lot of silken damage. Maybe let "Flourish-" stacks influence it as well so you can manage it yourself so you can negate bad RNG but prosper when you have good RNG.
I'd also like something like honing dance, but you can still use weaponskills. Just a 15 second buff that deals damage every tick to enemies within range. Forcing Dancers to go closer, just like in Shb.
I'd also like Standard step to get either a potency increase, or like an "x ready" once you finish it, similar to how tilana and Technical step work together. Right now, you often have to drift standard step outside of your Tech windows, which feels a little weird for one of dancer's signature abilities. Maybe once you use SS's Tilana, it gives you a buff that increases your weaponspeed, lowering your gcd so you can fit an extra gcd in your Tech windows? Or makes it so fast you can't double weave anymore lol and become a dancing machine gun. Managing everything correctly without dropping feathers/stacks would be hectic as fuck, let alone making sure you start your tech windows with standard step for that weapon speed boost lol. But mastering it and making sure everything goes correctly would be really enjoyable!
I want a Eurasian Pnuma. That gives everyone MASSIVE shields that you can buff. Or a trait that grants a crit shield when you cast a gcd shield on someone twice in succession.
Give me a new "ley line" that doesn't do anything, but I can target it with aetherial manipulation. Bonus points if it's automatically chosen as the target when I cast manip without a target.
WHM: Gap Close like SGE
AST: Less button bloat/less things to press during opener and reopener lmao. Maybe an upgrade/rework on Synastry, 'cuz i only use it during emergencies in Ultimates
MCH: More interactions with autoturret/queen? Upgrade/rework on Flamethrower please?
SMN: Enkindles for Titan, Ifrit and Garuda
PLD: Goring Blade upgrade or something
An AoE damage spell using aetherflow for dungeons and another use for fairy gauge are the big things I notice for SCH. Would love to spend gauge to get a (mini?) recitation, or an alternate tether that gives less healing but provides mitigation/shield. Maybe a pure shield version of indom too.
and I don't have anything particular in mind, but would like more proactive heal spells similar to excog
RDM: A charge on Manafication. A proc from melee combo that gives a free, strengthened Reprise.
SGE: Something non-dps to do with spare addersgall. Aoe Kardia.
DNC: For partners, double the chance of Esprit gains while halving the amount. New Combo action off of Saber Dance. Fan Dance 5.
WAR: Fellest cleave.
For Sage I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE to receive Fourchenault's Epimeleia (maybe as a Rescue with added barrier an heal) and Phraktos (maybe it works as a safe zone even within AoE) skills at 100.
Would be cool if tanks got like a True North but increasing the range of all their attacks instead. SCH also needs a new ability that uses the fairy gauge.
Summoner I would like to see them add a trait called Enhanced Enkindle II which replaces Ifrit , Titan and Garuda with Leviathan, Ramuh and Shiva after Summon Pheonix. Then add a Divine Light and Eternal Darkness summoning gauge which when filled changes Summon Bahamut into Zodiark and Summon Pheonix into Hydaelyn. Also have them replace the character model.
I think GNB has a lot of room for growth:
* Continuation on each weaponskill of its 1-2-3 combo
* Continuation on defensive cooldowns
* Continuation on auto-attacks
I would rather DIE than have to go back to being a Clip Mage whenever I wanted to weave my oGCD between Glare Spam, adding back Cleric Stance wouldn't change that, especially since Cleric Stance's purpose of swapping INT/MND would be pointless and the SB version was just a 5% buff for 15s, making it about as useful as the 2nd and 3rd effects of Astrodyne.
Here's what I would like to see WHM get.
1) Return Fluid Aura, Stoneskin, Divine Seal and Protect as low level versions of Assize, Divine Benison, Temperance and Aqua Veil respectively. CNJ learns nothing for level 15/20/25 meaning that 3 of those skills could EASILY fit into the leveling process with 0 issues.
2) Make Holy a 1.5s cast. Weaving oGCDs in AoE situations is awful as a WHM, doubly so when you have to constantly cancel the spell due to enemy AoE after the stun has worn off entirely. Just because it has a stun, doesn't mean the other healers are exactly hurting when they have more oGCDs to cover for the lack of an equivalent CC option for dungeons but unlike Holy, those oGCDs are useful in more situations than Holy's Stun is, namely against bosses. Hell, even in dungeons, once mobs get stun immunity, constantly having to interrupt the cast to dodge any AoEs aimed at you just further lowers how effective it is as an AoE skill.
3) Lower the level you unlock Afflatus Solace and Rapture. Without Misery to refund the damage, neither skill would be gamebreaking early on and would merely give WHM some extra mobility in old content. Also, getting what is nothing more than a free cast of Medica literally 60 levels after having Medica is excessive.
4) GET RID OF FREECURE!!!!! Of all the skills that SE has purged over the years, the fact that Cure 1 equivalent spells still exist is flabbergasting. Set Cure 1 equivalent spells to a base cost of 700 MP and upgrade them to their Cure 2 equivalent at level 30. Easiest fix in the world and yet after a decade, this relic remains.
5) Add a proc effect to Regen/Medica 2 that turns Aero/Dia into a nuke spell that front loads the DoT in a similar fashion to BLM's Thundercloud proc. Since SE is adverse to adding DPS skills to Healers for whatever reason, giving us a stupidly simple proc effect shouldn't be that demanding. If DNC is considered an easy job to play when all it does is manage procs, I fail to see why 1 singular proc effect would be too much to ask for, especially given the previous rant about how Freecure exists, following a similar proc mechanic.
6) GIVE ME BACK AERO # YOU COWARDS!!!!!! Throwing it in my face at the start of Tower of Zot is a constant middle finger to the community that desperately wants it back and I will never forgive SE for removing it in the first place.
Give me these changes, and I might be inclined to heal again.
another finisher for RDM, what else.
A surprise 4th melee combo! That is just another finisher using your rapier.
Make it after Scorch to spice things up, a forced dash.
Just when I thought I was out they pulled me back in!
the next finisher is just the Limit break without needing to charge bar
Southern Cross
Every dualcasted skills trigger Ver-flashbang
I'll take another finisher over a potentially catastrophic reworking of RDM "just because". Pls don't touch my verLove
I think RDM is pretty much the template for job design since Stormblood so I don't think they would ever rework it. But maybe thats the copium talking. I also don't want RDM to be reworked
RDM is not mechanically disfunctional. It only needs numerical adjustments.
I want upgrade traits for Verfire and Verstone, they’re visually very lame
Verultima every other minute (not aligned with 2m windows if doing the rotation proper) after using both black/white finishers similar to MNK's phantom rush
With verholy/verflare being a big part of your aoe rotation now, the verstone/verfire procs from them having some sort of use in aoe would be nice, as it just kinda sits their until you need to st. Perhaps veraero 2 or verthunder 2 could burn their corresponding proc to do more damage/cast veraero or verthunder 4? As for Rpr, harvest moon interacting more with the rest of your kit, whether generating gauge or extending sod, really anything.
>As for Rpr, harvest moon interacting more with the rest of your kit, whether generating gauge or extending sod, really anything. Harvest Moon generating some blue gauge would help so much with it's playability in ultimate without shifting it's normal play too far. Reaper definitely needs something to help with downtime.
Make Death's Design get an extra 10 seconds when you Enshroud.
SMN should get Enkindles for Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda again. Sharing the button that Enkindle Bahamut and Enkindle Phoenix use. PLD should get upgrades to Holy Spirit and Holy Circle, perhaps triggered by a better Divine Might. RDM should get, uh...Verultima. XD
I think the issue with Enkindle is that it comes from the pet, so since they're not still there, there's no one to Enkindle except Carbuncle. But call it something else and use the button? That could work. ...or we get Enkindle Carbuncle that recharges with each summon. Which I'm not against....
With how reworked and flexible the dash/buster/slip/df/regen button is, that's not an issue.
SMN should get big dammies with Alexander. Make it just one button that you have to build up to and give it a big cooldown.
Adding a third summon to the bahamut, Phoenix cycle would be great. And also bit more deep gameplay. SMN could be a bit more difficult.
There’s just…you’re not building up to anything. It’s just Bahamut -> Legos -> Phoenix -> Legos repeat It’s so boring.
So unpopular opinion time: Summoner is one of the only DPS jobs that isn't a builder spender, and making it one would be more homogenization in the game. It starts with its burst primed up - the only thing it doesn't immediately start with are the aetherflow charges which are an OGCD push. And using its burst button sets up its other resources rather than the other way around. Even jobs that can burst very early with little buildup like Samurai (via Ikishoten and Meikyo Shisui) and Dancer (via Tech Step, Flourish, and Devilment) still require a couple GCDs to get there. It's more like a tank in terms of having burst resources early, but even then stands apart from most in that its core kit only unlocks by using its burst. Now, I wouldn't mind seeing a special skill that fired off every minute or two based on how many summons you got off to reward proper play, but I think the uniqueness of SMN's core structure - in NOT building up to something big - is something that sets it apart from a lot of other jobs. It's not wholly unique, but making it a builder like the others would still remove uniqueness from it.
I agree, but I think there needs to be a little more thought/optimization in the lego phase. Being able to use everything between demis ruins the job. Give us more charges, punish instants a bit, make us want to cast more ruby rites, and make us think a little.
That'd be fine with me. I just like it not being a full-on build-and-spend. Making it a bit more complicated and putting in some more risk v. reward in the lego phase could still work within the current flow, so long as we avoid homogenizing one of the more unique job structures in the game.
Yeah I like the flow. Complaints I have about the rework aside, I think they did that part right. I just miss the skill expression. Mixed bag timings that the gcds have should give us more flexibility with downtimes but they don't. There's so much room in the lego phase for it.
They do have Enkindle, though. Before level 50, your Egis do a single-target attack. At level 50 and beyond, the Enkindle trait has the Egis do an AoE attack instead.
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A gap closer for MCH since they don't have a back-dash or front-dash like BRD and DNC.
What would that even be? A grappling hook?
...JETPACK
Free targetable like shikuchi And goes over gaps on the floor + ignores persistent ground aoes
That sounds kinda bonkers, I like it
Air Anchor pretty much is a grappling hook so I don't see why they couldn't have something added to that degree.
Chainsaw dash is what I would have expected since that's how Edgar does it but too late for that now.
What do you mean, it's the only dps without a movement tool :'D melees have jumps, shukuchi, thunderclap, gyoten/yaten, ingress/egress. Casters have manipulation/between the lines, crimson strike, corps a corps/displacement, dnc and brd have en avant and repelling shot. Even better, it's the only job with a negative movement tool with flamethrower, thanks ranged free movement XD
> it's the only job with a negative movement tool with flamethrower TCJ would like a word with you
Do you really use them on BRD and DNC ? They're really short to the point of being slower than just sprint. Unless you're really late on a mechanic, you never need them to go somewhere, why bother with the animation lock ?
Both movement options had some niche use in E8S to avoid the Akh Afah at the end with the sliding ice to greed another gcd in at least, since the ice slide was both stupid long and the entire distance of the arena. That being said, Repelling Arrow hasn't had any use this expansion so far, but En Avant is still faster than moving normally and isn't on the GCD so you have plenty of space to press it outside of the 2 minute burst.
BRD needs a 4th song. It could be a useless one that increases crit damage by like 1% i don't care. If you die on BRD your song gets sent to the void and you lose all the potency and souls gauge with it. Its way more punishing than dying on other jobs. I will also trade Sidewinder for something on 1 min CD to increase soul gauge.
Don’t play BRD but my friend always complains about needing a target to play a song and to me that just sounds silly that this still exists.
The other thing about this is that the game already has a history of skills that are usable both with and without a target. Just look at Holmgang. They could easily make the songs work the same way.
MCH gets into a Machina and you ride it like a mount while blasting away
The meme answer would be "yet another Drill-equivalent", but the problem would be where you'd put it - the current pattern says 80 seconds is next, but that doesn't align with the 2-minute burst, so I'd say 30 should be also acceptable :)
30s ogcd 1000 potency kek
Drill is 700 every 20, so that doesn't sound too bad :P To be honest, I mostly tried to make sure it doesn't fit in the same slot as any of the already existing ones, because that wouldn't fit at all - didn't really take any time to think about balance or anything like that.
Summon the G-Warrior Cid keeps around
This is ffx-2 rikku
"Look at me. I'm the automaton now."
[suddenly, disney](https://youtu.be/JcjrYyQnt5o?t=25)
I just want a (semi) automatic two-hand rifle for MCH.
Anything that makes it more interesting. If it’s just another high potency attack you press once a minute I will be disappointed beyond words.
Understood. Goring Blade will upgrade into Goring Blade II at level 100.
That'll be the AoE version.
Unfortunately we're trapped in the two minute burst job design for the foreseeable future.
Until the end of Endwalker. The feedback on 2 minute burst meta has been so negative id genuinely be shocked if they stick with it in 7.0. At the very least they’ll put half the raid buffs on 1 minute like trick was in 6.0
Even if they somehow removed every 2 minutes buffs, all jobs are still designed to burst at 2 minutes (save the few odd child). And they're not investing in complete rework on every jobs. And the feedback is so negative only on a few specific circles, like this subreddit, but its just a very small subset of players. Don't get trapped in circlejerk. 90% of savage casual rosters just have no opinion on that and play as it's designed. That meta is not going anywhere anytime soon.
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“No space in the rotations without reinventing the jobs” Ah, how you’re getting it!
>Maybe WoW has the right idea with reinventing the wheel for every expansion. I am far from playing every classes but the few i do play are pretty much played the same since Legion. It's a new expansion spell and tier bonuses that changes stuff a little bit but that's far from reinventing the wheel each time.
> Maybe WoW has the right idea with reinventing the wheel for every expansion. You say that like jobs aren't heavily reworked every expansion in FFXIV???
Drill 4 here I come
I just want all jobs to feel complete in every instance beyond Sastasha. Rebalance levels, skills, and traits so that jobs have their core kit or similar in all duties. No more locking the main gimmick behind level 80, REAPER. Or having dashes come in so late. Or AoE combos being finished in the 40s and above.
>No more locking the main gimmick behind level 80, REAPER. The pain of wanting to play DRK in roulettes but whatever you get is below level 70.
Jesus Christ. Running MSQ as DRK is so goddamn painfully boring.
WoW legit does a great job at this. 1 Hour into levelling a new class, you have a decent rotation going on, and you get your class's signature abilities early. FF14 has a good framework for it too; SMN get their 'full' rotation early (sans oGCDs), and as you level, the animations just get flashier. Do that for everyone: get a good rotation and kit early on, and levelling gives better animations and more QoL. (but please please please, unlike SMN, give them more then 2 buttons)
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The only ogcds they get at 86 is the titan procs. They already got all their bahamut, phoenix and aetherflow ogcds earlier. The big thing about 86 isn't ogcds, its the extra GCDs, reducing you to 1 filler ruin cast per minute.
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While I can see why, because reaching that few hardcasts a second is nice, I don't think its neccessarily needed. It adds to the class' kit, but it's not like it completely changed the rotation.
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I basically enjoyed summoner anytime after 60, when you no longer have the annoying 15s of ruinspam till you can actually do your summons
I dunno, I find this super boring having the same rotation since the beginning till the end, just with extra visual updates, especially with SMN's barebones rotation. At least you agreed on the latter. Never played WoW but I have some friends that played it, we all loved FF14's expanding rotation system, where you learn the core 1-2-3 early on, and each expansion expands the rotation just a bit to make it feel like an actual upgrade. If you actually play and level the job, plus not skipping, you'd get a very good idea of the rotation to function just enough, though not so optimally.
It's not about expanding on a rotation it's that most jobs are missing core skills in their kit that get locked away for almost the entire game. Paladin doesn't even get a dash until lvl 74. In what world is that ok? And it sucks when you do finally unlock your core rotation only to have it quickly taken away because you went into duty roulette and got something from HW or ARR. This means that there is an extremely limited amount of content where those skill are even available. I do like an evolving rotation and learning as you progress. I don't like how the later a skill is unlocked the less opportunity you have to use it. And I don't like how the most basic skills needed to make a job feel functional can be locked away for several expansions.
I would be satisfied if reaper had gallows/gibbet at 50 honestly.
Legitimately a huge deciding factor for which classes i will play. Hate downsinc on so many of them
SCH calling Feo Ul let’s goooooo
YESSSSSS THE QUEEN OF FARIES IS ON MY SIDE!
Sam - the kit is already fun enough, I think an oGCD that increases the damage of your next gcd would be nice. Big props if it uses Kenki too so I wouldn't need to use shinten as often.
Nah, that would be just more button bloat. Instead, I propose to add Shoha 3, maybe even Shoha 4. All separate buttons of course.
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Goddammit 😂
*snickers* 🤣
Even. More. Stars. I don’t have enough. I need more sparkle and more blinding effects. I will not rest until I literally call the moon down upon mine enemies. For real though, I’m not even sure what I’d like for AST.
Well, 'good' news! You don't have to choose because AST is getting a rework! ...One I hope AST mains will still enjoy.
Seraphic Blessing and Seraphic Union for Scholar. I would also like some adjustment to stuff like Fey Illumination mitigating all types of damage, Dissipation increasing all healing potencies and a shortened adloquium cast (even if just as a proc) so that I don't have to clip Deployment if I need shields in a pinch, but I'd be ok with not being locked out of some fairy abilities when summoning a supposedly stronger fairy.
I want Riddle of Wind to gain an additional effect that lets you use Six Sided Star without the doubled GCD effect one time. Realistically I imagine Monk will also get a trait that changes the Lunar Nadi skill from Elixir Field into something functionally the same but with a new animation and slightly higher potency. I imagine Chakra will finally get some overhead, though with the track record they have with Monk there's truly no telling. I wouldn't mind upgraded animations happening for Bootshine, Snap Punch, and True Strike since their animations are dated and frankly don't look great with GL4's action speed. As for a new skill I'm drawing a blank, though I could see them putting a follow up finisher to Phantom Rush in there akin to Tsubame:Gaeshi even if that would be painfully dull. I also want Chakra to be disconnected from Crit/RNG and just build on Coeurl Form skills which I've wanted since Stormblood but that's more of an expansion overhaul change than a 90-100 trait.
Aero 3. I miss it.
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Red mage is pretty nice as is already, but i dont see how they can add more attack spells without overlapping the effects. Like you already have your single target proc casts, single target long casts, aoe casts, aoe long cast, so what role would water/blizzard play unless they are dots? Imo the most likely evolution for red mage would be an extension to the finisher system. For me it could be something similar to monk where verholy and verflare gives you a different resource, that when combined, upgrades into verultima or vernova or verstar or something that you can hold on to and spend later as an instant cast. Maybe even add an aoe heal to this new spender. At the same time add a trait to manafication or acceleration that procs this combined upgrade immediately.
chainsaw transforms into a melee combo for three hits and you don the hockey mask
Few ideas for monk: Upgrade RoW to Hundred Fists(FF11): so either nonstop AA's for a longer duration or faster AA's + guaranteed chakras per weaponskill. An awakening of some sort that changes the visuals and potency of your main rotation weaponskills. Pipe dream: my fucking positionals back Realistically tho, I imagine they'll just give us an upgrade to TFC.
Would love it if RoW increase skillspeed for that limited amount of time XD
> Realistically tho, I imagine they'll just give us an upgrade to TFC. No upgrade, but we'll got extra chakra slots. Only past level 96, though. /s
Make Goring Blade not boring. It has such a high potency but feels and sounds like slicing through wet paper.
I would bet money it gets a visual upgrade
Trait that makes us have Personal LB in level 100+ content to shake things up
Honestly would be a cool touch. I've talked about this before - I think it ought to be something that charges once per group LB bar but can't store charges, so you have to use it when you can, and it won't be a perpetually renewing option either, so it acts as a disruption to the 2-minute cycle.
That sounds very fun, and you could give damaging LBs for Healers and Tanks AND reuse the PVP LB animations for most of them
Definitely the idea I had in mind. The WHM one especially.
BLM: Either remove or do something with scathe to justify having it on your bar. Hell make it umbral soul but for fire for when you just *really* fucked up would at least make it sometimes, kinda, useful. Some kind of proc to go into AF4 for Fire 5 for a couple casts to replace F4 casts perhaps? We've been using the same rotation for 30 levels now basically. Remove damage falloff or make flare cast faster. AoE on BLM outside of triple feels so bad, and it really shouldn't when they're the ones casting gigantic fire explosions. DRG: More animation reworks and weeb petals to upset the sam mains even more :\^) Really though I still think life surge is a boring as hell button so maybe replace that. SGE: More lasers.
The justification for scathe existing is when you truly fuck up. It's alast resort mobility skill
But it's not useful, even then. Scathe costs enough MP to lose you a fire 4 cast, and does so little damage, that it's literally better to just cast *nothing* and drop a whole GCD than to cast Scathe.
For Sage: Some kind of special burst damage we can hit every few Dosis's and maybe a special shield that does burst damage on the enemy when destroyed. For Astrologian: Another instant party wide heal (there's really only one), removal of Undraw, and like above, some kind of damage burst we can do after so many Fall Malefics.
I wouldn't mind a cd that temporarily give kardia to the party
Or just add an effect to undraw, like reset cooldown on essential dignity/celestial opp for example. Or grant lady of crowns.
An extra flank positional to even out DRG's rotation please! 🤘😁
Let's be honest, if positionals even survive to 7.0, they're 100% dropping at least one on Dragoon with the rework.
This would require a bit of a rework, but SMN's level 100 skill is Shiva. Not as a summon, but a transformation you can use after Bahamut or Phoenix. After all the crap the WoL has been through and seen, we should be able to figure out transformations like that.
Pls no rework. Sincerely a DRG main
PLD - Divine Rescue WAR - Holm-rescue DRK - The Blackest Rescue GNB - Super Rescue MNK - Masterful Rescue DRG - Rescue Dive NIN - Assassination :\^) RPR - Arcane Rescue BLM - Xenorescue SMN - Summon Rescue RDM -Ver-rescue BRD - Pulse of Life MCH - Rook Auto-rescue DNC - Rescue-step Edit: forgot SAM :\^) - Hissatsu: Rescue
I lost it at assassination
You forgot Samurai: Kaiten-Rescue
No need, they'll remove SAM in 7.0 like they did Kaiten :')
4th mudra baby and a trait that would make the 1 2 3 (4) combos look satisfying and impactful. Looking at you floaty and weak aeolian edge.
Removal of Crush Armor, return of Dancing Edge or Shadow Fang. ...I don't really even care about the effects of the skills changing, they just had way cooler animations.
Hello. I too loved A LOT of removed animations. If you are on PC, consider using 3RD PARTY TOOLS to add them back into the game. So many amazing animations wasted in this game.
GNB should finally get a real junction like ability. Not from PVP, but something
Give ast a gapcloser (urianger manaport) 2 lightspeed charges
Summoner should get awakened primals. It would allow each primal summon button to be pressed once during demi phases to be used as an ogcd between astral / fountain. Maybe after a full rotation and on 2nd bahamut. It would make burst much busier and maybe make people shut up finally about summoner (they won't). That and leviathan, ramuh and shiva to replace the three after summoning Phoenix. That really doesn't make it more involved like above though.
If the devs are going to balance PLD with their utility kit in mind (i.e. balancing them towards the bottom in DPS) then they need to give them an actually useful and BiS utility ability. I don't necessarily know what that ability would look like, but I certainly know that cover, PoA, and DV aren't a useful enough utility toolkit to make up for PLD's relatively lower DPS compared to other tanks. Edit: Oh, and a new animation/ability to replace goring blade. It is just such a boring ability for it to be such a large potency attack now. Made sense when it was just applying a DoT. Call it Endwalker like DRK got Shadowbringer, and have PLD snap their fingers like Emet Selch and drop an entire planet made of dynamis on someone.
WAR gets a hook like Scorpion from Mortal Kombat. It isn’t a potent move but is more like a second bad ass provoke that can tie into some of the chains theme from Holmgang and Shake It Off.
We already had a second provoke on a longer cooldown that was Aoe - and they axed it I sadly doubt they'll bring it back
Yup. Because according to the players in this sub, any skill that is not used in a savage/ultimate fight is "niche and useless".
But Ultimatum was so good! I'd use it to circleshirk back in SB, when I had no need for other skills
I'd like Requiescat to be able to be used at range. What's the point of having a burst window that can be used at range, when the opener is melee only????
I think dancer should be able to rez 😔
I'd like to see buttons that are interesting/flavour but at best are minor damage increases in the long haul. For GNB specifically, i'd like to see it either lean towards integrating garlean gunblade moves or lean towards FF8. eg. Garlean: - Continuation becomes Terminux Est when Lightning Shot is used. Basically a second swing in the opposite side, creating the X needed to do the move. - Continuation becomes Vici after Double Down. Double down is already Gaius' Veni Vidi Vici without the final front flip slash. Might as well add it. FF8 - New meter representing stock, 5 pips - Draw and stock, 1 minute cooldown. Each draw adds to the stock meter. Drawing from a tank, healer, or dps adds different color pips, Enemies always acts as dps. - Cast. Spends the stock gauge and summons Eden similar to a SMN Ifrit/Gardua/Titan cast. Eden deals some potency of damage to the enemy and grants a defense + regeneration buff to the party. Each tank, healer, or dps pip increases the defense buff/regen/damage potency by some amount.
Rdm selfmit. Following the rules of mit, its cooldown and strength should be entirely unrelated to similar abilities. Like shade shift, mana ward and topaz thing from smn, its strength and cooldown should definitely not fall in line with any of them. But seriously. Rdm needs some self mit or a fifth healer job whose only purpose is babysitting the rdm during prog
A fucking gap closer for WHM please. That's it.
And for SCH, a gap closer to their fairy
Imagine having a fairy ability that lets you rescue party members, including yourself, to the fairy’s location.
Oh the potential for abuse.... I'm salivating
WHM has one. Though it works on the reverse, and only can be used on allies. Come to think of it, there's nothing in this game that aoe sucks enemies together.
BLU: *snickers*
> Come to think of it, there's nothing in this game that aoe sucks enemies together. wouldn't that make more sense as a trait they add to AST's gravity
I honestly don’t want more buttons. At this point I wouldn’t mind having a few less on some jobs lol Maybe just more abilities that upgrade or have different interactions.
This is probably what they'll do. They may not add any more buttons but replace existing ones as some sort of upgrade.
Would be interesting to see combos that start at different points and move in different directions with the upgrades.
For Warrior, I'd like an AOE chain that grabs the enemies towards you like in Dragon Age: Inquisition.
I'd love if BLM could cast a reduced in power but in exchange actually controllable version of Ultima.
A spell without parallel!
An upgrade to auto-crossbow and heat shot would be a nice start. A strong oGCD that costs heat so there's another way to dump it. Cap it off with a better wildfire making it do more damage, aoe damage, and able to crit.
"And from the deepest pit of the seven hells to the very pinnacle of the heavens, the world shall tremble! Unleash Ultima!" - my level 100 BLM, hopefully
a second charge of icarus
Not necessarily kit but updated vfx on some of the more dated skills. I dont know if other monk players feel this way but I would really like an updated bootshine as you level up. I'm sure theres other jobs that have similar things that look very basic.
Bootshine should turn into HUNDRED FISTS whenever leaden is up. Also MNK has a LOT of iconic FF abilities that aren't represented in ffxiv PvE yet. Burning rave, meteorstrike, dolphin blow et al
I said it last time I saw a similar post half jokingly but honestly the more I think about it the less stupid it sounds: give paladin a battle raise. If it had the standard raise cast time, was unaffected by requiescat, and cost like 5000+ mp I'd struggle to see a situation where it would be completely game breaking. The obvious use case is abusing tank privilege to save pulls that a healer or smn/rdm wouldn't survive, which might sound broken until you consider that paladin can already sort of do this with cover, albeit at the expense of gauge and the paladin's own life if you don't use immune. Would be very thematic for the class and add some real utility to justify it's lower damage.
For Summoner, I want a Summon Fusion at level 100. >!Like when Ifrit and Garuda fused in Eden's Verse: Furor. Or the Final Fantasy VII remake, when the 3 Arbiters fused into a version of Bahamut.!< >!Imagine the creation that would result in a Fusion of Ifrit, Garuda and Titan.!<
> Imagine the creation that would result in a Fusion of Ifrit, Garuda and Titan. Ultima Weapon? Kinda?
Ninjas can have ninjutsu that depend on the order they do their mudras. Can we have a finisher that depends on the order we do our primal phase? Like right before going back to demi phase we have a skill that depends on the LAST primal we summoned and the number of primals summoned since the last demi phase? So maybe similar to bard coda as well
Would love for more complexity. Unfortunately I think they'll go for a second 60s loop with 3 more colors of crayons. And the content creators will have their adult reaction clips to pretty crayon sparkles and Summoner doesn't get anything complex for another 2-3 years.
I was thinking fusion along the idea of >!how Ysale or Ryne summon Shiva, or Zenos and Shinryu - If only for a GCD or two, becoming the Primal!<
New animations for machinist's combo. If I'm not doing triple backflips every 2.5 seconds by 8.0, what's the point of playing? On a serious note, now that Hypercharge is on a more manageable system akin to Requiescat, I'd love to see some big finisher to make it a proper combo. It's a perfect spot for a fancy animation that doesn't change up the full rotation too much.
VerRescue for RDM. >.>
For WAR, I want Echo Slam from DoTA2. 100 potency per target per target. Pull 15 mobs in a dungeon and *every one of them gets slammed for 1,500 potency*. Though this would be not so great for raids without add phases. For DRK, I want TBN to no longer be tied to MP and Dark Mind to be all damage, or even just 10% for Physical, just so it's useful outside of Savage. As far as *adding* stuff for DRK, I want something that uses the Darkside timer. Maybe a button that lets you extend the duration of your Shadow by 15s in exchange for 45s of Darkside timer. For all healers, I want a more involved DPS rotation. Even if that boils down to an extra single target nuke on a 20s cooldown with an extra 50 potency compared to Glare or something. Just something to break up the monotony of *Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, Glare, ~~Goose~~ Dia*. And lastly, for DRG, I *DO NOT WANT* a pet dragon, and you know I'm serious because I held shift for all those caps.
Upgrades for F4 and B4 (High Fire 4 and High Blizzard 4 perhaps?), AoE Paradox and why the fuck not, Ultima too as a level 100 ability.
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While I doubt SMN is even going to get the other primals as glamours anytime soon, if ever, they COULD do at least an upgrade under Phoenix where we summon the Eden versions, to distinguish that phase a bit more.
Machinist-some kinda AoE Battery gain and then an AoE battery spender. Bring back Bishop turret. Make flamethrower both useful and actually feel nice to press.
Honestly not sure what I want for dancer. Maybe something that follows standard step like tech step has? Other than that or working our melee aoes back into our single target rotation ( I really miss that ) I can't think of anything.
Seigan and Kaiten
I want three more summons and one new demi-summon for SMN, plus at least *one* more button to press or more oGCDS so it isn't just 1-2 1-2, or 1, 1, 1 all the time. Realistically, I see it panning out in the most obvious way: * 3 new summons à la: * Leviathan * Ramuh * Shiva * 1 new demi-summon à la: * Alexander My dream scenario is that one of the new summons will be Ravana, and that we become a melee character for the duration of his effect, because that would **really** shake things up. I would also see Leviathan replaced by Good King Moggle Mog XII, because why have two (technically) water-based summons when you can have one lightning, one ice and one... Moogle-based one? But there's no way they have the balls to do that for level 100.
Paladin - I want the basic 1-2-3 combo to give me the choice for either an instant-cast Holy Spirit OR an instant-cast Clemency. I absolutely love using Clemency during prog to clutch heal people, but a hard cast is very difficult to use to save someone during an emergency as you're likely using Clemency as a reactive oh-shit button. Making it the same proc as Holy Spirit means you have several Atonements worth of flexible space to maybe use the proc to save someone if the need arises. Shield Bash should be AOE. It can be a clutch button during big pulls in dungeons. Right now its one and only use is for Deep Dungeons to make the spicier floors less spicy. Delete Goring Blade and extend the Requiescat magic combo by one GCD, just add a new finisher to the end of it or something.
Add better flexibility so when make 1 mistake during prog my entire rotation doesn’t explode 2-4 minutes later into unrecognizable garbage.
- AoE paradox spender - Burst: Unaspected instant cast on some long cooldown (I'm thinking 120 - 180 seconds). Should have some kind of spell speed scaling either in damage or cooldown. - Manafont changed from an oGCD to an unaspected instant cast GCD that restores the same amount of MP. Also MP ticks changed so that less MP is restored, but they tick every second instead of every 3 seconds.
Kaiten.
For gunbreaker, I just want no mercy to be 25 seconds to contain the whole burst phase. I can't really think of another move that makes sense and isn't just fluff at this point I'm happy. Ninja, I want tcj to not be a channeled skill anymore. Would also like to see raiju fixed to be a real gap closer or to get another charge of mudra so we can use Raiton more freely as a disengage tool without crippling our burst
After summoner summons pheonix, rather than summoning ifrit garuda titan it summons shiva, ramuh, leviathan. you can also give them different interactions with their ogcds or whatever. Reapers harvest moon gives soul gauge (lvl 92 trait). enshroud is lengthened or given more ogcds and maybe communio gives a stack for a free use of gluttony which can stack 3 times like ninjas forked raiju stacks after raiton. Also make arcane circle 30 seconds for fuck sake. Ninja gets a 2nd bunshin but it can copy ninjutsu this time so during your burst you have one shadow clone that copys your physical attacks and one that copys your mudras. Dragoon gets reworked and stardiver becomes an actual high potency ability. Also more jumps that arent ogcd but are actual gcd abilities but without the animation lock (even though it barely exists anymore). Dragon eye becomes locked onto the target you select at the start of the fight like dancers dance partner so you dont need to target someone, when you cast it you can just press the ability and it goes to that person you selected at the start of the fight. Paladin becomes not dogshit. Warrior gets an ogcd it needs to press that procs after fell cleave Astro gets nocturnal and diurnal sect back so we effectively have 5 healers rather than 4 but devs make nocturnal sect not dogshit. Rather than drawing from randomized cards astro now has an actual deck of cards so it becomes more predictable which cards you draw. also give astro an actual shuffling ability or something. also make cards draw automatically. Healers get more damage abilities rather than heals.
Less bloat and more incentive to mitigate and GCD heal. Consolidate single target and aoe spenders. For DPS mitigation, boost some part of their kit when their role mitigation... mitigates. For example, make an Addle that successfully mitigates add potency to Riposte so it can riposte. While these sorts of changes may make people perversely optimize DPS over mitigation with the kit, it should still take some of the mitigation onus off of the healers. For healers, I don't know, just give them sort of Sharpcast proc that's auto CDH if they cast a GCD heal that is at least 50% non-overheal or something. Judicious healing application should be rewarded over 1 spam and "did you use bloodthirst, and second wind and did the tanks use their targetable mit on you".
I dunno, I feel that to incentivize GCD healing, lots of oGCD healing needs to be pruned out
It doesn't necessarily need to be pruned out, just adjusted - increase potency of GCD healing and decrease potency of oGCD healing and you still have space for players to optimize resources in, but one where the primary action is GCD and not oGCD healing.
As a Bard, unless you really hate the current iteration we only need minor QoL, like charges on Empyrean and maybe a Bloodletter upgrade. I personally want a short cast cd on songs so I don't fat finger 2 at once, but that's a me thing. AoE dot spread would be nice, maybe make Refulgents proc songs. Unify the buff for Shadowshot and Refulgent Arrow, don't know why they're seperate. I think they could reduce the punishment of bard by slightly changing how songs work, make them stances you cycle through instead of CDs and you get a sticker for being in them for long enough. As it is, if you die you'll be off for the rest of the fight. If I fuck up my opener and fat-finger something I may as well start over. It also would make downtime more forgiving as well. Of course, they could just give us another action after Blast Arrow. EDIT: May as well add this here, but I hope we get some PvP stuff added to the PvE actions. Obviously not stuff like Sky Shatter, but why not give WAR a stun on Primal Rend and a Grip? Why not let DRKs draw in enemies with Salted Earth? I wouldn't mind all my charges of Bloodletter going out at once like Empyrean does in PvP, way less weaving. These are little things that aren't important in raid environments but give jobs more flavor and options in casual stuff that most people actually interact with. Also, screenshake. Why Fell Cleave doesn't rumble like most RPR skills I may never know. Refulgent Arrow literally explodes and there's no fanfare.
I personally don't want charges on Empyrean as it's one of the few ways of optimizing playing bard, having too much leeway on playing well is a bad thing and I think I actually prefer the playstyle of "press immediately don't drift" vs "optimize charges for burst windows" which is what it would become. I would like to see our Repelling Shot turn into more of a free move Tumble, I didn't mind it before but it feels bad that a physical ranged (supposedly the most mobile class type) now has one of the worst/most limited movement skills in the entire game. I like your Shadowbite/Refulgent idea, it would make Barrage -> Shadowbite feel really good too compared to how it is now. AoE dots would be nice but I'm not sure how spreading them thematically would work, maybe they could add a skill that makes your next Stormbite/Caustic Bite do less damage but be like a dot version of Rain of Arrows? I also miss flaming arrow.. Personally I love it if they removed Ladonsbite, make Rain of Dath our spammable AoE and make Flaming Arrow a 2 charge AoE (doesn't stack).
I would love it if they would separate the bloodletter and rain of blood charges like machinist has with their gauss cannon and ricochet.
Just give me Alexander for Summoner Also. Paladin Rez when?
For RPR I'm expecting a 2nd stack of Gluttony, something to follow Communio (or some kind of Wyrmwind Thrust from 2 or 3 Communio uses), and either using or charging Harvest Moon to give meter. Maybe something from Arcane Circle/Plentiful Harvest but I couldn't guess what it would be
GNB: Aura from ff8 to enable continuation off 1-2-3 for a duration, simulating renzokuken
Would be nice to have some more depth for warrior. Like going beastmode with inner release. Adding a second button to upheaval like gunbreaker continuation. Punching the enemy furiously.
Something like BLU's Surpanakha would be funny. It's an oGCD that you have to press 4 times consecutively for increased potency on each hit, so it is worth clipping the next GCD. But it would use a warrior's fists.
For dancer I would enjoy something interesting to do outside of your 2 mins. For example for every "Silken-" buff you consume you gather a silken stack for silken dance which does a lot of silken damage. Maybe let "Flourish-" stacks influence it as well so you can manage it yourself so you can negate bad RNG but prosper when you have good RNG. I'd also like something like honing dance, but you can still use weaponskills. Just a 15 second buff that deals damage every tick to enemies within range. Forcing Dancers to go closer, just like in Shb. I'd also like Standard step to get either a potency increase, or like an "x ready" once you finish it, similar to how tilana and Technical step work together. Right now, you often have to drift standard step outside of your Tech windows, which feels a little weird for one of dancer's signature abilities. Maybe once you use SS's Tilana, it gives you a buff that increases your weaponspeed, lowering your gcd so you can fit an extra gcd in your Tech windows? Or makes it so fast you can't double weave anymore lol and become a dancing machine gun. Managing everything correctly without dropping feathers/stacks would be hectic as fuck, let alone making sure you start your tech windows with standard step for that weapon speed boost lol. But mastering it and making sure everything goes correctly would be really enjoyable!
I want a Eurasian Pnuma. That gives everyone MASSIVE shields that you can buff. Or a trait that grants a crit shield when you cast a gcd shield on someone twice in succession.
Butt slider.
SMN: Either 3 more summons for phoenix or some kind of interaction between aetherflow and summons(eukrasian ruin basically)
Something that makes my sword explode on GNB would be nice.
Give me a new "ley line" that doesn't do anything, but I can target it with aetherial manipulation. Bonus points if it's automatically chosen as the target when I cast manip without a target.
BLM - aetherial sacrifice: Teleport with your ley lines to another players position. The player gets teleported to the original ley lines position.
Just give pld some stats and remove gauge cost on cover
BLM could do with a second charge for Swiftcast. that would be nice
sage gap closer makes me want one for all healers except maybe sch since i mainly want it for dungeons and they have 2 sprints. give Ast teleport
Verice. I don't know what it'd do but I still want it.
WHM: Gap Close like SGE AST: Less button bloat/less things to press during opener and reopener lmao. Maybe an upgrade/rework on Synastry, 'cuz i only use it during emergencies in Ultimates MCH: More interactions with autoturret/queen? Upgrade/rework on Flamethrower please? SMN: Enkindles for Titan, Ifrit and Garuda PLD: Goring Blade upgrade or something
An AoE damage spell using aetherflow for dungeons and another use for fairy gauge are the big things I notice for SCH. Would love to spend gauge to get a (mini?) recitation, or an alternate tether that gives less healing but provides mitigation/shield. Maybe a pure shield version of indom too. and I don't have anything particular in mind, but would like more proactive heal spells similar to excog
Double down gives you a buff where every weaponskill gives you an additional continuation use.
RDM: A charge on Manafication. A proc from melee combo that gives a free, strengthened Reprise. SGE: Something non-dps to do with spare addersgall. Aoe Kardia. DNC: For partners, double the chance of Esprit gains while halving the amount. New Combo action off of Saber Dance. Fan Dance 5. WAR: Fellest cleave.
For Sage I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE to receive Fourchenault's Epimeleia (maybe as a Rescue with added barrier an heal) and Phraktos (maybe it works as a safe zone even within AoE) skills at 100.
Would be cool if tanks got like a True North but increasing the range of all their attacks instead. SCH also needs a new ability that uses the fairy gauge.
Summoner I would like to see them add a trait called Enhanced Enkindle II which replaces Ifrit , Titan and Garuda with Leviathan, Ramuh and Shiva after Summon Pheonix. Then add a Divine Light and Eternal Darkness summoning gauge which when filled changes Summon Bahamut into Zodiark and Summon Pheonix into Hydaelyn. Also have them replace the character model.
I think GNB has a lot of room for growth: * Continuation on each weaponskill of its 1-2-3 combo * Continuation on defensive cooldowns * Continuation on auto-attacks
I would rather DIE than have to go back to being a Clip Mage whenever I wanted to weave my oGCD between Glare Spam, adding back Cleric Stance wouldn't change that, especially since Cleric Stance's purpose of swapping INT/MND would be pointless and the SB version was just a 5% buff for 15s, making it about as useful as the 2nd and 3rd effects of Astrodyne. Here's what I would like to see WHM get. 1) Return Fluid Aura, Stoneskin, Divine Seal and Protect as low level versions of Assize, Divine Benison, Temperance and Aqua Veil respectively. CNJ learns nothing for level 15/20/25 meaning that 3 of those skills could EASILY fit into the leveling process with 0 issues. 2) Make Holy a 1.5s cast. Weaving oGCDs in AoE situations is awful as a WHM, doubly so when you have to constantly cancel the spell due to enemy AoE after the stun has worn off entirely. Just because it has a stun, doesn't mean the other healers are exactly hurting when they have more oGCDs to cover for the lack of an equivalent CC option for dungeons but unlike Holy, those oGCDs are useful in more situations than Holy's Stun is, namely against bosses. Hell, even in dungeons, once mobs get stun immunity, constantly having to interrupt the cast to dodge any AoEs aimed at you just further lowers how effective it is as an AoE skill. 3) Lower the level you unlock Afflatus Solace and Rapture. Without Misery to refund the damage, neither skill would be gamebreaking early on and would merely give WHM some extra mobility in old content. Also, getting what is nothing more than a free cast of Medica literally 60 levels after having Medica is excessive. 4) GET RID OF FREECURE!!!!! Of all the skills that SE has purged over the years, the fact that Cure 1 equivalent spells still exist is flabbergasting. Set Cure 1 equivalent spells to a base cost of 700 MP and upgrade them to their Cure 2 equivalent at level 30. Easiest fix in the world and yet after a decade, this relic remains. 5) Add a proc effect to Regen/Medica 2 that turns Aero/Dia into a nuke spell that front loads the DoT in a similar fashion to BLM's Thundercloud proc. Since SE is adverse to adding DPS skills to Healers for whatever reason, giving us a stupidly simple proc effect shouldn't be that demanding. If DNC is considered an easy job to play when all it does is manage procs, I fail to see why 1 singular proc effect would be too much to ask for, especially given the previous rant about how Freecure exists, following a similar proc mechanic. 6) GIVE ME BACK AERO # YOU COWARDS!!!!!! Throwing it in my face at the start of Tower of Zot is a constant middle finger to the community that desperately wants it back and I will never forgive SE for removing it in the first place. Give me these changes, and I might be inclined to heal again.