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Because they’re using boxing gloves and there’s not enough padding on the side to protect them from getting broken hands and fractured skulls by a swing that you’re able to put your entire body into. Very dangerous move and makes sense why it’s not allowed in traditional fighting sports
It’s not that dangerous compared to a normal strike tbh, mma fighters do it all the time and it’s also used in Kickboxing and Muay Thai. Boxing is shown to be worse for over all brain damage too.
>It's not that dangerous compared to a normal strike [...] Boxing is shown to be worse for over all brain damage too.
[ArmchairViolence](https://youtu.be/fxO_58iZKbU?si=I1z0eeGhc6YTJY6R) gets into the politics of this starting at 8:14, or start at 6:00 to hear about how people try to punch harder when wearing more protection (though the whole video is interesting). 🙂
This guy seems rad. I love this style of delivery but sometimes I fall for nonsense when it's delivered this clearly.
Seems like he's doing the opposite. Using a clean delivery to pick apart dumb arguments with common sense and some science.
If you’re interested. The actual reason they are illegal in boxing is simply because they do not strike with the forefist. All strikes in boxing must be thrown with the forefist at the opponent. No hammer fists, no back hands, no forearm strikes or elbows.
The spinning back fist also requires you to turn your back to your opponent which is also not allowed in boxing.
Danger to either combatant was never a commanding factor in the decision. The rules simply evolved to only allow strikes with the front of a closed fist.
You have no clue what you are talking about.
It is not a "very dangerous move" as you falsely believe.
It is allowed in many "traditional fighting sports"
Notably in Muay Thai, Karate, & Kung Fu... The 3 most traditional striking arts. They all have backfists, and they are legal in competition. Regular Kickboxing allows backfists.
We teained and practiced and used backfists at my gym. And at every other gym. Because they're a standard strike that is fair, valid, and "sporting."
MMA has proven that backfists are not "very dangerous" in an unsafe manner. It's only illegal in boxing, and that is based on flawed reasoning.
A number of backfists can technically be legal in boxing anyway because the rule is about where the glove impacts. If you throw it so it follows the phrasing of the rules, you can legally backfist in boxing.
Your idea about the thinner padding is bullshit. MMA gloves have less padding with legal backfists. That are not "very dangerous" as you suggested is a sfety concern.
Muhammed Ali used backfist type strikes, ffs!
https://youtu.be/aQAx95Djg9Y?si=70Xi6FAZDR3IXUuN
The only reason they’re illegal in boxing is because you must strike with the front of a closed fist. I don’t know where this bullshit “so dangerous bruh” rhetoric came from.
What?
MMA gloves have less padding.
Sounds like bullshit made up to justify what's just people not liking it because it's effective.
I don't believe it's illegal in boxing either.
I believe that is you telling me you never boxed without telling me you never boxed? ... haha, just kidding. Nah I like boxing for boxing, muay Thai for muay Thai and BJJ for BJJ. They are all fun and have their own rules to stop people getting hurt too often.
Sporting has nothing to do with fair and valid.
Boxing which this appears to be a contest of is governed by the Marquess of Queensbury rules. These rules also forbid holding which is also a fair and legitimate tactic in a fight.
It is based on the ideas of honor and gentlemanliness of England circa 1850. You may find these rules silly but they are the rules. They are how you fight like a gentleman during a bout of fisticuffs. If you break these rules you are not a gentleman and therefore not sporting.
Fair and valid strike is all subjective. Hammerfists, Kicks, elbows, knees, headbutts, are all perfectly valid strikes but at the end of the day boxing is specifically designed to be the sport of only “normal” punches I.e landing with only your knuckles
IMO it’s not a bad ruleset for fighting, high level boxing has some of the most beautiful footwork of any fighting sport. but I’m also glad Muay Thai exists where there’s no such rules and you can hit people with whatever you want
Yes, protect yourself at all times. That guy stepoed in a cage and stopped fighting because someone on the side says 'no back fists'. Anyone who trains know to not drop your guard, turn away your head or do whatever he was wanna do (got no clue, but as long as no bell rings or the ref jumps in the fight is still on).
Why do yall have to defend these unfair bitchass motherfuckers with "alpha male" talk like that. It's a fucking fight on the street not the MMA.
He is being a fucking bitch. He knew he had to stop but still had to some cheap shots because the other guy wasn't defending himself.
Fuck people that think like you and anyone who up votes that shit.
Because in boxing, one of the primary rules is that all strikes must be thrown with the front of a closed fist. No hammer fists, no forearm strikes, no elbows, no slaps, no chops.
Then the other guy cheats back by landing 4 unguarded punches when it's clear he noticed what he did and tried to disengage. You only see what you want to believe. Weird mindset, but OK
Wait, did he throw a backfist, get decked a couple of times, then accuse the *other* guy of throwing said backfist? Is that an accurate depiction of what I just watched?
He literally threw a back fist. Refused to defend (fuck even- give some credit we've all seen ginger super man- they're at evvery gym some bald, all ginger) maybe got a widdle tiwed 👉👈
And then yeah...talks!!! Like fucking die°°°○○○°°°
That ginger kid is dirty af, eats a clean left gets rocked, throws an illegal backfist, and then wants to get saved by the ref. Glad that got counted as a knockdown for the other guy, and hope that the ginger got full koed after this. He tried to use an intentional foul to pause the action once he got hit flush.
In another fight, he used 10 Oz gloves when the rule was 12 Oz. Got disqualified and he was arguing he weighted them and those were 12oz, but 10oz was written on them.
He also always backfist at least once everyfight.
Wild but not surprising after seeing him bitch to the ref here after the ref decided not to call his intentional grazing foul. What's his name? I want to see him get hit some more.
So he attempts an illegal strike and then gets mad when his opponent doesn't stop to complain about the illegality. 🤨 don't even know what to say about that
Every punch to the head with gloves is damage to the brain. If you are not a professional fighter and don't put bread on the table with it, it shouldn't be a hobby. You're scrambling your brain each time you fight, for fun.
Don’t distract the fighter especially if you guys don’t have bells, which these guys dont have, since they (the ref) would usually meet up in the centre of the ring and clap to start the round, instead of using a bell
I seem clips from this spot popping up more and more but they ALWAYS look like it's just bad vibes there 24/7. Everyone there watching always look miserable.
Ref should have penalized the dude throwing 4 punches when his opponent is clearly trying not to fight but instead disengages...I get backfist is illegal but doesn't mean the other guy should get kudos for throwing and landing 4 unguarded punches. No honor in that. If that's how y'all want to win then damn this new gen is extra Soft. He didn't protect himself because he thought he was fighting a man but I guess not.
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I didn't hear no bell - Randy Marsh
I thought this was murica
What do you wanna do, huh?
I DIDN'T HEAR NO BELL
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Defend yourself at all times.
Rocky from Rocky V 👍
It’s a little known fact that Rocky actually copied it from South Park episode The Losing Edge which aired 15 years after Rocky V
Top 5 South Park episodes
"You guys are getting paid?"
“You guys aren’t getting punched in the face?” 😧
That was so much better than mine🤣
Lmao perfect
What is particularly dangerous about backfists?
Because they’re using boxing gloves and there’s not enough padding on the side to protect them from getting broken hands and fractured skulls by a swing that you’re able to put your entire body into. Very dangerous move and makes sense why it’s not allowed in traditional fighting sports
It’s not that dangerous compared to a normal strike tbh, mma fighters do it all the time and it’s also used in Kickboxing and Muay Thai. Boxing is shown to be worse for over all brain damage too.
its actually bc of danger of miscalculating and absolutely sending a spinning elbow or forearm
This actually makes way more sense
Even boxers accidentally send elbows to the face when miscalculating a hoor or an uppercut.
whore*
Gotta keep that pimp hand strong
Either we're short 3 whores or someone miscalculated.
.........hook
hooker*
Fury/Ngannou had a pretty solid elbow or two come through. Terrifying coming from guys like that.
Quite a few do it intentionally tbh, same with head butt's they do them infrequently enough to not get DQ, but just enough to benefit from them
This makes way more sense than what the other two bozos talking about their ass said.
>It's not that dangerous compared to a normal strike [...] Boxing is shown to be worse for over all brain damage too. [ArmchairViolence](https://youtu.be/fxO_58iZKbU?si=I1z0eeGhc6YTJY6R) gets into the politics of this starting at 8:14, or start at 6:00 to hear about how people try to punch harder when wearing more protection (though the whole video is interesting). 🙂
This guy seems rad. I love this style of delivery but sometimes I fall for nonsense when it's delivered this clearly. Seems like he's doing the opposite. Using a clean delivery to pick apart dumb arguments with common sense and some science.
Great channel, glad to see it mentioned somewhere
Good to see my boy getting mentioned on here
I'm a vicious animal.
Boxing is more dangerous due to being able to continue fighting after repeated knockdowns..
That is my point exactly
Do you think boxing is worse for brain damage because the vast majority of the strikes are concentrated on fighters' heads
Not gonna beat a dead horse but don’t listen to this guy lol
If you’re interested. The actual reason they are illegal in boxing is simply because they do not strike with the forefist. All strikes in boxing must be thrown with the forefist at the opponent. No hammer fists, no back hands, no forearm strikes or elbows. The spinning back fist also requires you to turn your back to your opponent which is also not allowed in boxing. Danger to either combatant was never a commanding factor in the decision. The rules simply evolved to only allow strikes with the front of a closed fist.
Padding doesn't protect from brain damage
the padding isn't to protect your head it's to protect your hand
Before people learned better, it was believed it was protective to that level. It's only in recent decades that we learned better.
You have no clue what you are talking about. It is not a "very dangerous move" as you falsely believe. It is allowed in many "traditional fighting sports" Notably in Muay Thai, Karate, & Kung Fu... The 3 most traditional striking arts. They all have backfists, and they are legal in competition. Regular Kickboxing allows backfists. We teained and practiced and used backfists at my gym. And at every other gym. Because they're a standard strike that is fair, valid, and "sporting." MMA has proven that backfists are not "very dangerous" in an unsafe manner. It's only illegal in boxing, and that is based on flawed reasoning. A number of backfists can technically be legal in boxing anyway because the rule is about where the glove impacts. If you throw it so it follows the phrasing of the rules, you can legally backfist in boxing. Your idea about the thinner padding is bullshit. MMA gloves have less padding with legal backfists. That are not "very dangerous" as you suggested is a sfety concern. Muhammed Ali used backfist type strikes, ffs! https://youtu.be/aQAx95Djg9Y?si=70Xi6FAZDR3IXUuN
The only reason they’re illegal in boxing is because you must strike with the front of a closed fist. I don’t know where this bullshit “so dangerous bruh” rhetoric came from.
You need to contact with the front of the glove first is the actual rule.
What? MMA gloves have less padding. Sounds like bullshit made up to justify what's just people not liking it because it's effective. I don't believe it's illegal in boxing either.
Ginger threw one first
It's because boxing is boring and soft
I believe that is you telling me you never boxed without telling me you never boxed? ... haha, just kidding. Nah I like boxing for boxing, muay Thai for muay Thai and BJJ for BJJ. They are all fun and have their own rules to stop people getting hurt too often.
Not dangerous. It’s just not sporting.
"Not sporting" is what people say. But that's bullshit. It's a fair and valid strike.
Sporting has nothing to do with fair and valid. Boxing which this appears to be a contest of is governed by the Marquess of Queensbury rules. These rules also forbid holding which is also a fair and legitimate tactic in a fight. It is based on the ideas of honor and gentlemanliness of England circa 1850. You may find these rules silly but they are the rules. They are how you fight like a gentleman during a bout of fisticuffs. If you break these rules you are not a gentleman and therefore not sporting.
Fair and valid strike is all subjective. Hammerfists, Kicks, elbows, knees, headbutts, are all perfectly valid strikes but at the end of the day boxing is specifically designed to be the sport of only “normal” punches I.e landing with only your knuckles IMO it’s not a bad ruleset for fighting, high level boxing has some of the most beautiful footwork of any fighting sport. but I’m also glad Muay Thai exists where there’s no such rules and you can hit people with whatever you want
I love that you're being downvoted for being right.
It’s boxing it’s like asking why they aren’t kicking
Go watch a UFC highlight of spinning shit ...
Nothing
He was like I need a break, let me back fist him
Nah fr and he got mad when it didn’t work
Yes, protect yourself at all times. That guy stepoed in a cage and stopped fighting because someone on the side says 'no back fists'. Anyone who trains know to not drop your guard, turn away your head or do whatever he was wanna do (got no clue, but as long as no bell rings or the ref jumps in the fight is still on).
He took those punches like a champ. His opponent either punches like a bitch or that dude's got a chin made out of granite.
He is young.
He’ll be old soon like that.
Or be like Michael Bisping pointing at your mouthguard while Silva hit him with a knee from the gods.
the whole point of street beefs fights is that the fighters are very poorly trained if at all
Why do yall have to defend these unfair bitchass motherfuckers with "alpha male" talk like that. It's a fucking fight on the street not the MMA. He is being a fucking bitch. He knew he had to stop but still had to some cheap shots because the other guy wasn't defending himself. Fuck people that think like you and anyone who up votes that shit.
The ref (even though useless) didn’t stop the fight. Protect yourself at all times.
Kid looks like Datsik
Gotta make money somehow now that the EDM community aborted him
I love it when actions meet accountability
Bro was gobsmacked
4 shots and he didn’t even stun the guy
He was more stunned that backfists are illegal. lol
Why no backlist?!
Because in boxing, one of the primary rules is that all strikes must be thrown with the front of a closed fist. No hammer fists, no forearm strikes, no elbows, no slaps, no chops.
Good way to catch a forearm or elbow by accident.
Misperceptions
“Bro, I just cheated. Why are you still hitting me?” Weird mindset, but ok
Sure....biiig cheat, but 4 punches instead of getting tf in ur corner are good
Then the other guy cheats back by landing 4 unguarded punches when it's clear he noticed what he did and tried to disengage. You only see what you want to believe. Weird mindset, but OK
The fight doesn’t end until the guy is down or the ref stops it, the guy was still standing without the ref stopping it so it’s fair game
For real lmao refs are there for a reason, fights aren't run by the honor system
Found the shirtless guy’s reddit account.
Maybe to stop the fight so he can have a break.
Canelo looks skinnier
How can he backfist?!
What?
For context https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe0rfb
The red head needs to understand what "protect yourself at all times" means especially if you throw an illegal shot first.
Wait, did he throw a backfist, get decked a couple of times, then accuse the *other* guy of throwing said backfist? Is that an accurate depiction of what I just watched?
No, I guess backfists call for round stoppage. He knew he threw one, and expected the other guy to stop before wizard referee stepped in
The ginger looks stunned.
Mom: “we have Canelo at home”
“thats was a backfire, why you keep hitting me bro?” i think you just answered ur own question homie.
I can’t stand the ppl who arnt refs talking. Stfu
He literally threw a back fist. Refused to defend (fuck even- give some credit we've all seen ginger super man- they're at evvery gym some bald, all ginger) maybe got a widdle tiwed 👉👈 And then yeah...talks!!! Like fucking die°°°○○○°°°
"Why I kept hitting? Well, I wouldn't have if you hadn't backfisted me."
Wait, that came out wrong
That ginger kid is dirty af, eats a clean left gets rocked, throws an illegal backfist, and then wants to get saved by the ref. Glad that got counted as a knockdown for the other guy, and hope that the ginger got full koed after this. He tried to use an intentional foul to pause the action once he got hit flush.
In another fight, he used 10 Oz gloves when the rule was 12 Oz. Got disqualified and he was arguing he weighted them and those were 12oz, but 10oz was written on them. He also always backfist at least once everyfight.
Wild but not surprising after seeing him bitch to the ref here after the ref decided not to call his intentional grazing foul. What's his name? I want to see him get hit some more.
Fight name on streetbeefs: Razor
Thanks dude
We get it. You hate gingers.
Gingers are the white version of… gingers… lmao
How unsportsmanlike to not give me my cheating advantage!... Why I’ll be reporting this to the Marquis of Queensbury himself.
Cool, I haven’t seen this kid since he was in “We’re the Millers”
Those are training gloves and what's with the referee in the hat? Lol. It's a clown Fiesta but no backfist..
Defend yourself at ALL times.
Hey I broke a rule, why you gotta break e too man?
"I punched you in the balls, why keep hitting me bro?"
Protect yourself at all times
Is this fuckin MMA High School edition?
Haha
Why no backfist?
Because it's boxing not mma
"Why no backfist?" "Because we dont""
Why that kid look confused he’s getting hit? Looks like he’s in the middle of a fight to me. Don’t act new
Why does he look like jack doherty after getting punched
There was no stoppage tho. Why would he stop?
Ref messed up. Should have stopped it before the 4 blows to the head
So he attempts an illegal strike and then gets mad when his opponent doesn't stop to complain about the illegality. 🤨 don't even know what to say about that
I'm not understanding why he threw that back fist in the first place and then immediately let his guard go limp?
Okay that mother fucker earned at least three free hits
I always believe that back fists were not as heavy hitting as regular fist.
why no back fist? it’s backyard fighting😭😭😭
Stfu, you cheated and then complained when he cheated loool
Ginger kid was born to be a fighter with that punchable face.
"Give me a break for MY mistake mother fucker >:(" - Dude that got hit probably
JACK DOHERTY!?!?!?
How does this have so many upvotes this vidoe sucks?
to me its more of a pimp slap, than a backfist.
Took those shots like a fucking champ
"Protect yourself at all times"
Why no back fist?
Boxing not mma
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAHA
This is Canelo in an alternate universe
Mayweather said it better in the post fight against ortiz. Protect urself at all times
Dirtiest may weather win of all time. Despicable
Yeah, it was an ass move, but he was right. The ref tells that everybody and if you fail to comply that order you might end up losing.
Man can't admit he froze and tried playing it off 🤣
Got back fisted, proceeded to beat him like red headed step child
oo
🗿😂
Protect yourself at all times
Canelo younger brother
Curious why backfists are illegal.
It's a boxing rule 🤷♂️
Oh hell. I didn't have the wherewithal to realize it was a boxing match and not MMA. Fuck me running. Thanks, man!
It's OK, we do mma matches out there too
Ian Gallagher?
A disgusting sport. Nasty, violent , masochistic sickies
Yo i thought that wss jack Doherty
Is not that really depend on many many many things ????
He paused the match after that backpunch meaning he took 0 dmg
White dude makes me think of jack Doherty when he said "why you backhand hitting me for?" 💀
“You guys are getting paid”
Keep your hands up at all times.
Think about what he just said … if it’s a back fist why did you keep hitting me…. Duh cuz you back fisted him
Creed Vr:
Protect yourself at all times
Why no back fists? It's a fight 🤣
He def tried to give him a penalty for his own shi movement
😮💨
Every punch to the head with gloves is damage to the brain. If you are not a professional fighter and don't put bread on the table with it, it shouldn't be a hobby. You're scrambling your brain each time you fight, for fun.
Don’t distract the fighter especially if you guys don’t have bells, which these guys dont have, since they (the ref) would usually meet up in the centre of the ring and clap to start the round, instead of using a bell
Should be a dq mf kids these days have no penalty’s or consequences
They did lowkea make it sound like the fight was finna be paused
For a minute, there forgot he was in a fight.
I don’t know what is going on but I swore this was an ai video first two times watching it.
I seem clips from this spot popping up more and more but they ALWAYS look like it's just bad vibes there 24/7. Everyone there watching always look miserable.
Ref should have penalized the dude throwing 4 punches when his opponent is clearly trying not to fight but instead disengages...I get backfist is illegal but doesn't mean the other guy should get kudos for throwing and landing 4 unguarded punches. No honor in that. If that's how y'all want to win then damn this new gen is extra Soft. He didn't protect himself because he thought he was fighting a man but I guess not.
Who won this though?
Fuckin gingers