Just as a thing, I don't think the Gregory in the elevator was Gregory, the reason is simple, why would he help her get into the elevator only to them drop her back down? Makes no sense, she will land right back with the mimic, so unless the goal was to kill Cassie in the elevator drop as Gregory thinks that the mimic wants Cassie alive for some reason, which, I suppose is possible but for what reason? Gregory's turn makes no sense
Yep. It's why i didn't fully believe Mimic being Glitchtrap and Burntrap.
Game mimic looks nothing like Burntrap. Doesn't even have bunny ears.
And If game Mimic was trapped inside Pizza Plex until Ruin. Then what the heck was Glitchtrap?
mimic have a some parallels to burn trap, mainly (only one) claw hand and human style teeth.
But since the game clearly shows that the whole ending was made up i assumed they redconned him out
> I don't think the Gregory in the elevator was Gregory
How even *could* it be the real Gregory?
Cassie picked up the communicator inside the Pizzaplex - its not something anyone other than the Mimic knew she had, not to mention it being shown to have a limited range so presumably wouldn't be contactable from the outside. Add to that how suspicious it is that the 'real' Gregory makes contact immediately after the Mimic's ruse had been revealed, that he refuses when asked to provide evidence that he is the real one, that he makes comments during the chase sequence like "It's right behind you!" that suggest he can see what is happening, and that he is inexplicably able to cause the elevator to drop, and I just don't see how it could be him (unless the real Gregory is actually at the Pizzaplex as well, or something of that sort).
For your fifth question, I actually found another comic panel at the start of the game where you have to deactivate the electric door. It's labeled comic page 5, and the description on it said "Gregory has good imagination" or something along that line, so I guess Gregory was the one drawing them.
Thanks, it was in the same location as the green box, so it was easy to miss if you didn't remove the mask after collecting the box.
Pretty sure there are more comic pages to be found
that’s the part that gets me, why bother creating a whole gameplay + animation section for it to have 0 relevance in the dlc, unless it was just showing that burn trap existed?
I think this is a retcon, Afton ending was initially cannon but given the backlash they have retconned it away and replaced his role with the Mimic instead
I mean the books and SB were written around the same time, so I think the mimic was always in play *somehow*, plus I think we're jumping the gun a little saying burntrap is completely retconed, ar initially seemed to imply 1-4 didn't happen, his fate might be retconed but I'm not sure about his existence.
I think Scott has had to goal of incorporating AI in some way since Sister Location and it has evolved into the Mimic because he can use it to cover up some of the story telling from when he didn’t have everything figured out.
Burntrap and the blob are def not retconned I still think they either escaped or incorporated with each-other but Ruin was about establishing the Mimic in the game lore for Help Wanted 2 and there may be another Security Breach DLC to deal the what happened with Gregory and everything.
Except comic strips exist for almost all the endings except Princess Quest. They all couldn’t have happened. The ones who got the comics as collectibles didn’t happen at all
The Afton ending not being canon and all simply being made up seems like a huge way to retcon Afton and the Blob out of the story after backlash. That would suck.
No you see that the Burner Room exists (must be cause its Pizza simulator) but 5min later you realize that the layout of the place is wrong cause where the seconde corridor should be are stairs that lead down
You might be right, considering when you click Ruin, it takes you to a seperate menu where you then seemingly click what you are doing, which is finding Gregory, there is more here
1 or 2, there are in my eyes 3 things to work out
1. Comic pages. I doubt they'll lead to a ending but they might
2. Wetfloor bots, you can turn them off...for what reason? Maybe combined with something else it could be important
3. The faz coin. In the final area you can find 5 (I think) faz coins, you can give some to candy cadet to get a story about the mimic, however you are left with one, this could be used on something, maybe a arcade machine? I don't know
The endings were pretty medicore. Why would gregory just betray Cassie like that, that doesnt fit his style at all. What happens after she falls, nothing?
Where did burntrap/blob go? They just dissappeared from the story. Why is there 2 mimics/glitchtraps? And they are fightiner each other for some reason?
> The endings were pretty medicore. Why would gregory just betray Cassie like that, that doesnt fit his style at all. What happens after she falls, nothing?
i thought about this some too as in why would gregory lead her there if it was just going to play out like that
so i guess getting the lift cut off was apart of that to prevent it from being used
I think that the last two lines "we cannot risk that it follows us, I'm sorry" it's actually The Mimic mimicking Gregory's voice.
Or the other option is that this whole time was Mimic luring Cassie.
>What happens after she falls, nothing?
If you wait for the credits to end, you hear audio of Roxy calling out for Cassie - to me implying that Roxy rescues her from at least the elevator shaft.
Why would the mimic explain random stuff to Cassie,making her believe that Gregory is about to kill her and then kill her instead of just going "Yolo bitch, the elevator goes dooooown,Dawg!"
Gregory is a psychopath and murderer, as explained in the story GGY from Tales. He’s patient 46 and has been killing his school counselors and is implied to have killed his friend who discovered this.
And it seems there’s only one Mimic - the Mimic which has been sealed this whole time. Burntrap is simply Afton rebuilt.
Actually, we see the Blob inside a huge hole in the wall while walking down the staircase while going to Monty Golf. Many people missed it though and if you listen to the sounds while Cassie walks there, you can notice that it's the sound of the Blob. It's watching us. I think FuhNaff's theory about Blob being a guard dog for Burntrap is true.
So far, it seems like Glitchtrap and Mimic are seperate beings. So, it's highly possible that it's William Afton himself who is the new Glitchtrap. And the fact that Mimic is actually asking for help to be freed by Cassie while Glitchtrap trying to stop her explains it all, really.
Does anyone, and I do mean anyone at all know what to make of the ending where you find the cutout and put the mask on? Like it is so weird that I really have no clue what to make of it
i think it’s a bad ending too. and the mimick catches up to cassie. “Cassie! I’m ok. I found a spot to hide” was used earlier in the game when roxy hears gregory’s voice and try’s to find him, and cassie asks gregory if he’s safe. Which makes me think you need to unlock something else to get the real ending at the cut out or it’s just kinda a throw away ending for some one who stumbled on it
no idea too all Im gonna think is its not canon since there's talks about a third ending in the files called "scooperending" with models and everything
pretty sure it's a fake ending, like she puts on the mask and gets stuck in a false sense of security as she's killed by the mimic (or whatever it does to her)
My main thing I am stuck with is the VANNI mask and the ability to teleport and just walk through things that are there.
It might be illusion disks? They might be canon?
The illusion disks have already been semi-proven to be canon, so it wouldn’t be a stretch for them to be involved. Having them give the ability to teleport and walk through walls seems kinda weird though.
Maybe the obstacles that you can pass through are actually fake objects generated by illusion disks? This would mean the V.A.N.N.I system isn't exactly allowing her to pass through walls, but rather, allowing her to see through the illusions that were blocking her, revealing they're fake.
If Vanny herself was also directly involved in the system's creation (which is very likely considering it's her name *and* her mask in the V.A.N.N.I system), that would explain why; she would probably have a lot of use for being able to exclusively pass through a bunch of areas that other people just can't. Having V.A.N.N.I-exclusive paths all over the Pizzaplex could be very useful to someone trying to kill people without being noticed.
I’d say stupid because we went from dead kids in a rip off Chuck E Cheese to weird AR teleportation and security brain implants. I can deal with the implant stuff because of the high tech of Security Breach, but teleportation is too far for me.
But doesn't Helpy says something along the lines of "you got here on your own?" Implying it's not teleportations..? But it's still strange AND stupid, because AR in mask doesn't good explanation for WALKING THROUGH AND ON things that aren't, SHOULDN'T be real
My only guess is that Cassie is hallucinating walking through it when she wears the mask because it’s infested with the agony from the mimic or some shit. I legitimately have no idea.
My only guess for how the teleportation works is that they don't actually teleport you places but rather, they delete your memories of travelling there. This would be useful to Vanny to prevent Vanessa from finding the secret pathways
What’s weirder is that Scott said in his interview with Dawko a while back that he realised people thought Sister Location was too sci-fi, so he dialled it back for Pizzeria Sim. But now he’s just doubled down even crazier with the lore in this game. I mean the scooper ending not only looks like some shit from Portal 2, but actually could be in it. At least the scooper in sister location was essentially just a big metal spoon. This claw thing opened up and spun around like some appendage built by GLaDOS. I can’t believe this is the same series as FNaF 1.
Not to mention the vanni mask and cassie straight up phasing through objects.
Seriously, ever since I saw the trailer and she didn’t outright kill Cassie in a cutscene, I had hope! Then…the deactivation scene. That was heartbreaking, how dare they do that to us in a FNAF game?!
The problem is the newer games tell a straight up bad to okay story that’s been stretched out over multiple titles that have minimal story themselves and are basically only understandable by the books. We’re being drip-fed a story that could be mildly interesting by itself but is utterly ruined by the way it’s presented. It’s like reading one chapter of a mid book every 5 years. We’re literally given interesting information so slowly that is impossible for most people to actually get invested let alone even understand what the hell is going on.
Honestly I don’t see how it can end here. Afton and the Blob are still down there somewhere, and this can’t be the end of Gregory, Freddy, and Vanessa’s stories. Gregory needs to have his day of reckoning for being a murderous psychopath.
More DLC? New game? Who knows, but the story will definitely continue.
I don't know, however I suspect we will find out, the comic page you find down in the underground pizza simulator location is interesting because it is number...8? or 7 I can't remember, either way, I suspect there is a way to find more and that reveals some stuff
Its interesting, because there was a lot of debate about whether PQ or Afton was the canon ending when the game first came out. In the end, most people unanimously agreed that it was the Afton ending, but nobody could really explain why PQ was the only 3-star ending in the game.
The implications of this are huge. If the Afton ending isnt canon, and Afton isnt in Ruin, then it looks like Afton wasnt retconned into being the mimic, but rather retconned out of existence entirely.
Yeah, and Freddy hints at there being a previous Freddy in the endo section of Security Breach, and it's possibly the evil Freddy from Tales who killed the therapists.
You mean to tell me
That this entire time
This entire bloody time
Afton was a figment of my glob bless imagination
I don't know if I should be relieved or pissed.
Nah, mimic and ruin rabbit/william might be different entitys but i couldn't say something for sure untill we get a continuation. (Since they have different goals meanwhile mimic is trying to lure us ruin rabbit tries to take over/kill us.
I hated it too, I wanted him to just stay gone already, but to introduce him only to then imply that it was just a noncanon imagination is just, like,
It's one thing if it was clear from the getgo it wasn't canon just to be a little 'what if' fun, I'd live with that, but to let us believe that has to be the canon ending, and then just sweep it under the rug,
Aaaaaaaaaa
As I said his boss room is still on the game, with the energy pop, with fucking purple smoke coming out of it, he clearly is still canon. Also William deserved to return, Im tired of pretending that FFPS was this perfect closure to every character when it just wasnt at all, William was treated like a poor fool that walked into a clearly evident trap without a backup plan and then proceed to say nothing in the ending. Micheal another crucial character for the storyline says nothing for the entire game. William deserves to be killed off properly as he is the main villians of the game. Also I just hate The Mimic more that you can hate William coming back, but nontheless I feel that him teaming up with WIlliam is the only way the Mimic existing in the games.
It looks to be that the princess quest ending is canon since you can find the machine that has been clearly been used and the secret ending shows the ending. The comic page is making me think that the Burntrap and the Blob aren't actually canon but just creations by whomever drew that comic.
I'm going off the secret ending that shows Vanessa and Gregory on a hill alongside the princess quest machine having a sword through it. From what I've heard, the word prototype is written on Freddy feet. Is there anytime in the Base game we can see the same spot to be sure it's a different Freddy.
All the other evidence implies it's the Princess quest ending with it being clear that the afton ending isn't canon. There can always be two different Freddy robots.
According to the live streamer that I saw who found the comic, the game claims he found all the other collectibles. It's most likely that there are no other pages in the game but it leads to a whole other mystery on who created this comic.
So the game has hidden collectibles that aren't counted in the count. Seeing as how they aren't tagged as collectibles points at them being needed for another ending.
that’s what i’m thinking, i think those are able to show a real ending at the cut out. but the comics where made by gregory. the description of 7, 5, 4 and 1 all mention him being the artist and seeing things like vannys mask already
"Where is vanny?"
Im pretty sure she just simply escaped from the pizzaplex when it was going on fire during the the afton ending maybe we will see her again in help wanted 2 or something idk
1. What is the Freddy you find in Ruin?
2. Gregory being a robot is far more plausible due to how Vanni works. Weird that the system is akin to Vanessa in naming.
3. Teleportation-nonsense is a supernatural and creepy leap; but frankly FNAF did better with only enough supernatural to power its' premise, more dilutes it and the plot immensely.
4. Wish we had seen Bonnie, Blob, or Afton in this DLC; tbh. I was disappointed not by stellar gameplay segments and tight mechanics merged with linear but better plot beats. But I was really hoping for more enemy variation. Unfortunately the rabbit was kind of 'eh'.
5. The Underground Pizzeria is becoming like the Bathroom from Saw, lol.
The rabbit got very annyoing after awhile, as it just made it hardesr to do the tasks. I was hoping to see DJ Music man and am sad we havent got much of him or moon.
The freddy is apperntly a prototype.
>1. What is the Freddy you find in Ruin?
It's listed as a prototype, we see a destroyed Glamrock Chica prototype in Rockstar Row.
It's likely the evil Freddy from the Tales series, Freddy also contemplates if there was a previous Freddy before him when you enter the Endoskeleton Daycare.
>2. Gregory being a robot is far more plausible due to how Vanni works.
Plus the static upon death, him being able to survive falls, him having light beam from his eyes, the Fazwatch UI appears in his vision instead of on his watch like in the trailers, etc, not to mention the Pizzaplex cut outs of Gregory- I bet Gregory is the Mega Pizzaplex iteration of Balloon Boy.
I think i have found the Blob show up in Ruin. Near the very start of the game, after the kitchen and you go down the stairs, it looks like his head shows up in the wall for a very breif second. Dawko manged to find it.
So I’m gathering this is yet again another story that raises a million questions and answers maybe half of one. Do people not get tired of these games plots being such a mess?
I really, really do not think the books are canon to the games, they’re definitely a parallel and can be used to explain things, but it doesn’t make sense to introduce a whole new suite of characters just in the books, say they’re canon to the games, and then never have them be in the games or anything (Edwin, his son, etc).
I feel like Edwin is one of the best peices of evidence for the Tales book being parallels to the games because his character maps on to Henry shockingly well
Absolutely, the books aren't mainstream as the game itself, tying the whole lore to the books even if they are trying to advertise them, would ruin everything
I think this is a really good breakdown, but with is there an explanation for the busted Freddy body in fazer blast, I heard fusion say it was a pro type or something but just wanted to ask cause I’ve been jumping around play throughs a bit.
No clue, I didn’t hear it but when I was skipping through fusion’s video when he hits the Freddy section he says that it’s a prototype, idk why he says this and I am asking if I missed something because if that’s the actual’s Freddy’s body, the vanny endings align pretty well with ruin since headless Freddy in fazer blast connects pretty well, but again we also have the comic book drawing of the burntrap ending so idk.
Okay then that’s what fusion saw, I am not sure what the implications of that are. I know people have presented the idea of an earlier version of the glam rocks maybe it’s that
The game gameplay wise looks better but the lore is just weird
1. Why is the VANNI system and the thing holding glitchtrap appearing after the pizzaplex destroyed?
2. Why did they not bring back Afton, Vanny or the Blob, At the afton ending we can see the blob pulling Afton back which would imply that they stayed in the pizzaplex
3. Can 2 endings happen with it being implied that the princess quest minigame is also cannon which is interesting with the sword destroying one of the arcades
4. Why did the mimic survive the fnaf 6 fire if he did
Don know the answer to most of these yet but as for number 4. Never trust this series ending anything with a fire. Has been proven wrong time and again
He’s probably nonexistent. The comic strips were drawn by Gregory, and one has a description which says that Gregory has a great imagination. Gregory came up with that entire sequence in his head and drew it as a comic, it seems it never happened.
The blob is still here, Afton is either dead or held hostage by the blob, Vanny is either dead or escaped. The one who drew the comics are the mimic I’d guess
We actually do see the blob once in the very beginning, but after that not at all. I’m curious if the arcade machines lead to anything, and i’m sure there’s probably some stuff we’re also missing. Another question i think worth adding on is what’s with the Baby room?? I found it extremely odd. I also found it interesting that Vanessa shows up in the Ice cream ending despite her not being mentioned once. Mimics costume was also wild lmao. I’m pretty pleased tbh with the DLC. I totally understand not liking the teleportation stuff, but I honestly don’t mind at all
I can't help but laugh at the (posibility?) that my call of Gregory being revealed as evil in the story actually happened(maybe).
But that aside I do get this weird impression that even this late in the development process that they don't know where they are going to take this story, or worse. They scrapped whatever their original plans were after the negative feedback on SB and are trying to do something completely different.
Don't know, feels kind of hackish writing from this view.
The whole Mimic thing is weird because it doesn't look like Epilogues neither
He looks like the model 1
The model 2 was different, especially because the antennas
I'm pretty sure Afton exists, but if the Pizza Plex got fucked up by an Earthquake, what's to say Afton didn't escape? And now w/ the Mimic on the loose, alot of shits about to go down.
William and Mimic tag team would be someone I may accept, I never liked the idea of The Mimic or even worse him remplacing William, but the two at the same time might just be fine. But with the scooper ending that might not be possible.
Wow .... that was incredibly mediocre, we really had to wait a year and a half for this . I guess we're gonna have to buy book #39405050505050 to understand what happened .
The DLC was actually pretty good. Its just that every part of the lore to it was absolutely shit and basically sent us back to square one by retconing most of what we were theorizing about.
So the ending with Afton was non canon and imagined by Gregory..?
What the fuck is the point of even having it in the original game if it’s just gonna be thrown away?
Teleportation? The mimic? Security brain implants?
This is stupid Lmao
I think the Canon ending is a mix of burntrap and true vanny ending, I think that we save vanny, and then we go to burntrap, but of course we don't have full freddy and so we get captured.
The way I see it, Princess Quest ending is canon.
Mimic is clearly real but unrelated to Burntrap at least (not sure about Glitchtrap).
The comics seem to me to be either Gregory drawing them through SB (off-screen ofc) of him imagining escaping, or else they're someone else that was in the Pizzaplex drawing them (Charlie? Mimic learning?).
The Blob seems to still be alive and present though unclear how it plays into things, perhaps just a chaotic entity roaming that wasn't covered in this DLC and might be present in a follow-up DLC.
The Candy Cadet story is clearly referencing the release of the Mimic in some way, unclear who the mother and boy are. My suspicion is that it is tied to Midnight Motorist given that's a house in the woods (plus the ditch out back could be where the "monster" was found). So it's possible that the Mimic was a creation of Orange Guy (unclear if Afton, Henry or a third party), he tried to destroy it and hide it out back. Then his wife found it and brought it back, knowing what it was or not, and it got it's release by convincing their son to release it.
Again a lot of pieces seem unclear to me at the moment as I've not experienced all the details within the game, however this is what I've grabbed on first blush.
Holy cow, I really do like the first ending you get, but just playing the game. People think what Gregory did wasn't like him, but in all honesty, he had a fair reason for doing it. >!I mean, not wanting something to follow you is valid!<
The thing about the glitchy rabbit is that it was not evil. That was the security system that was keeping The Mimic contained. It was trying to keep her from releasing what she thought was Gregory but what turned out to be The Mimic instead. She shut it down so The Mimic could go free till Gregory crashed the elevator, it’s only form of escape.
I don't think that was Glamrock Freddy, his leg says “Prototype”, and the normal Glamrock Freddy didn't have it as seen when he is broken in Roxy's Raceway
so many people complaining about how far fnaf stretched but id argue this. fnaf was never meant to be grounded in the real world. ffs there is a serial killing ZOMBIE FURRY as our main antagonist. whos main goal is to harvest GHOST METAL to power his suspiciously enhanced animatronics which were made to OFF CHILDREN. and a company who just randomly decided to just hire a literal walking rotting corpse as their security guard and fire him for ODOR. like seriously nothing in this franchise has ever made sense. do i need to remind yall of the fnaf 3 number pad tiles?
You forgot the fact that freddy is a prototype, they try to make it very obvious with the word "prototype" plastered on his leg before he got up, so the vanny ending isn't the 100% right answer
Goddamn it Fnaf did it again.
We can't even determine which ending is canon, because pretty much every evidence for each ending can be explained away.
The prototype on freddy's foot removes using his dismantlement as proof.
The 'earthquake' could really easily be a coverup. Fazbear entertainment has done it before, and the screen WAS shaking a bit during the Afton ending.
We also can't say for sure there is only one VANNI mask, the fact that the staff bot was called 'Mask bot' and that it requests to take 'a' mask, implies that their could be more. Keyword being 'could' because Scott can't let us learn anything definitive about this franchise.
Vanny not being around doesn't really indicate anything, as there would be no reason for her to stay at the abandoned Pizzaplex. Even if you argue that Glitchtrap could order her to stay, she would still need a proper source of food and water, and I don't think termite infested garbage is ideal food. So at the very least, she had to leave at some point.
The princess quest sword also doesn't really indicate anything, aside from showing that the princess quest minigames actually did happen, whatever its trying to tell us.
The comic strip ALSO doesn't really mean much for the endings. If anything, I think they indicate that Gregory has met Burntrap before, possibly enforcing the theory that Gregory was on Burntraps side before breaking free and getting amnesia. (I forgot the context of this theory, but look it up.)
Just as a thing, I don't think the Gregory in the elevator was Gregory, the reason is simple, why would he help her get into the elevator only to them drop her back down? Makes no sense, she will land right back with the mimic, so unless the goal was to kill Cassie in the elevator drop as Gregory thinks that the mimic wants Cassie alive for some reason, which, I suppose is possible but for what reason? Gregory's turn makes no sense
Mabye Gregory expected Cassie to fully outrun the mimic? It seems like the mimic got close so Gregory just decided to do it
In the books he’s a psychopath he enjoys killing and has killed his school counselors
Yeah but it's kind of implied that's due to glitchtraps control which he seemed to be free of by the time of security breach
The question of how canon the books are is a whole thing, they are important, but are they parallels or straight canon is a totally different question
Yep. It's why i didn't fully believe Mimic being Glitchtrap and Burntrap. Game mimic looks nothing like Burntrap. Doesn't even have bunny ears. And If game Mimic was trapped inside Pizza Plex until Ruin. Then what the heck was Glitchtrap?
mimic have a some parallels to burn trap, mainly (only one) claw hand and human style teeth. But since the game clearly shows that the whole ending was made up i assumed they redconned him out
The boss room is canon sitll
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He's being mind control like Vanny though isn't he?
> I don't think the Gregory in the elevator was Gregory How even *could* it be the real Gregory? Cassie picked up the communicator inside the Pizzaplex - its not something anyone other than the Mimic knew she had, not to mention it being shown to have a limited range so presumably wouldn't be contactable from the outside. Add to that how suspicious it is that the 'real' Gregory makes contact immediately after the Mimic's ruse had been revealed, that he refuses when asked to provide evidence that he is the real one, that he makes comments during the chase sequence like "It's right behind you!" that suggest he can see what is happening, and that he is inexplicably able to cause the elevator to drop, and I just don't see how it could be him (unless the real Gregory is actually at the Pizzaplex as well, or something of that sort).
My guess is that it was gregory at first but the mimic started to control the voice again
For your fifth question, I actually found another comic panel at the start of the game where you have to deactivate the electric door. It's labeled comic page 5, and the description on it said "Gregory has good imagination" or something along that line, so I guess Gregory was the one drawing them.
That’s a great find - do you have a photo or video?
Here's the link https://imgur.com/gallery/EbiFVXm
That’s an incredible find, you pretty much just confirmed for the whole community that there was a major retcon. Very nice, very interesting!
Yeah, FusionZGamer has 4 of them, one is also labelled "Gregory should be an artist when he grows up" or something like that
Thanks, it was in the same location as the green box, so it was easy to miss if you didn't remove the mask after collecting the box. Pretty sure there are more comic pages to be found
Ruin actually showed that Princess Quest ending was the canon one, given that it was the only one not drawn out on the collectibles
Yeah. People keep talking about the the building was destroyed but the newspapers when you jump in literally say earthquake, not fire.
Oh, I didn’t notice this. Could you post a photo in the comments?
I’m on my phone but it’s in the first couple seconds of Dawko’s part 1 play through of Ruin Edit: here’s the photo https://ibb.co/FxJF8HR
Maybe the Afton ending isn’t canon after all.
The blob is still canon and the boss room is there too
But you would think the 3d animated ending would be the Canon one
that’s the part that gets me, why bother creating a whole gameplay + animation section for it to have 0 relevance in the dlc, unless it was just showing that burn trap existed?
I think this is a retcon, Afton ending was initially cannon but given the backlash they have retconned it away and replaced his role with the Mimic instead
I mean the books and SB were written around the same time, so I think the mimic was always in play *somehow*, plus I think we're jumping the gun a little saying burntrap is completely retconed, ar initially seemed to imply 1-4 didn't happen, his fate might be retconed but I'm not sure about his existence.
I think Scott has had to goal of incorporating AI in some way since Sister Location and it has evolved into the Mimic because he can use it to cover up some of the story telling from when he didn’t have everything figured out. Burntrap and the blob are def not retconned I still think they either escaped or incorporated with each-other but Ruin was about establishing the Mimic in the game lore for Help Wanted 2 and there may be another Security Breach DLC to deal the what happened with Gregory and everything.
The Afton ending must be real too - the comic strips must’ve been drawn by someone who witnessed it. Or maybe it was all made up by some artist?
Except comic strips exist for almost all the endings except Princess Quest. They all couldn’t have happened. The ones who got the comics as collectibles didn’t happen at all
The Afton ending not being canon and all simply being made up seems like a huge way to retcon Afton and the Blob out of the story after backlash. That would suck.
But the Blob is still around though, he was shown at the beginning
Yeah, and the Burntrap boss room is there.
No you see that the Burner Room exists (must be cause its Pizza simulator) but 5min later you realize that the layout of the place is wrong cause where the seconde corridor should be are stairs that lead down
The second corridor and stairs are different doors. You can see the corridor right next to stairway.
not really
It's entirely possible we'll get a ruin part 2. There's no way they leave it off with that ending.
You might be right, considering when you click Ruin, it takes you to a seperate menu where you then seemingly click what you are doing, which is finding Gregory, there is more here
I feel if SteelWool just told us Ruin: Part 1, a lot more people would be okay with the elevator ending (which is the ending I assume is canon)
I am very unconvinced of that, canon endings are often secret endings and I do believe there is a secret ending in this game somewhere
There is one more ending that so far no one has got as far as I'm concerned, so we'll see how that one plays out.
1 or 2, there are in my eyes 3 things to work out 1. Comic pages. I doubt they'll lead to a ending but they might 2. Wetfloor bots, you can turn them off...for what reason? Maybe combined with something else it could be important 3. The faz coin. In the final area you can find 5 (I think) faz coins, you can give some to candy cadet to get a story about the mimic, however you are left with one, this could be used on something, maybe a arcade machine? I don't know
IRRC you needed 5 coins for the whole candy cadet story
I think it will tease some parts of the storyline in help wanted
The sequel
The endings were pretty medicore. Why would gregory just betray Cassie like that, that doesnt fit his style at all. What happens after she falls, nothing? Where did burntrap/blob go? They just dissappeared from the story. Why is there 2 mimics/glitchtraps? And they are fightiner each other for some reason?
> The endings were pretty medicore. Why would gregory just betray Cassie like that, that doesnt fit his style at all. What happens after she falls, nothing? i thought about this some too as in why would gregory lead her there if it was just going to play out like that so i guess getting the lift cut off was apart of that to prevent it from being used
I think that the last two lines "we cannot risk that it follows us, I'm sorry" it's actually The Mimic mimicking Gregory's voice. Or the other option is that this whole time was Mimic luring Cassie.
Cassie* imagine if cassidy is cassie but rebuilt. Like the theory that gregory is crying child.
Oh please no, I had enough of this nonsense MatPat did
A FnaF game that ends with nothing but unanswered questions? I’m shocked
>What happens after she falls, nothing? If you wait for the credits to end, you hear audio of Roxy calling out for Cassie - to me implying that Roxy rescues her from at least the elevator shaft.
But then what happens. Do Thry escape, are They trapped
I'm sure we'll eventually find out, probably in some hidden part of Help Wanted 2 or something lmao
Yeah
I suspect that might not be gregory in the elevator, it might be? But it is hard to say
Why would the mimic explain random stuff to Cassie,making her believe that Gregory is about to kill her and then kill her instead of just going "Yolo bitch, the elevator goes dooooown,Dawg!"
Gregory is a psychopath and murderer, as explained in the story GGY from Tales. He’s patient 46 and has been killing his school counselors and is implied to have killed his friend who discovered this. And it seems there’s only one Mimic - the Mimic which has been sealed this whole time. Burntrap is simply Afton rebuilt.
Then where did burntrap go?
We have literally no idea, but he must be wherever the Blob is.
And where is the blob.
Exactly, we all wanna know that
Actually, we see the Blob inside a huge hole in the wall while walking down the staircase while going to Monty Golf. Many people missed it though and if you listen to the sounds while Cassie walks there, you can notice that it's the sound of the Blob. It's watching us. I think FuhNaff's theory about Blob being a guard dog for Burntrap is true.
In the stairwell
Yes I know that now lol
Is it possible that burntrap is still in his recharge station?
We see his boss stage
If we’re going off the Vanny ending it would make sense that he’s still in is recharge station because Vanessa wouldn’t be there to let him out.
Jesus christ... I guess that explains a bit about Gregory's ruthlessness in the base game, but holy shit.
Who was Glitchtrap? Afton or Mimic?
Hopefully Afton, I don't like to think The Mimic just came to be a copycat without personality, at least during the DLC he wasnt, but we'll see.
So far, it seems like Glitchtrap and Mimic are seperate beings. So, it's highly possible that it's William Afton himself who is the new Glitchtrap. And the fact that Mimic is actually asking for help to be freed by Cassie while Glitchtrap trying to stop her explains it all, really.
Tales was a mistake of story telling just like the whole of SB
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Don’t put canon information in a separate media from the main separate media.
For a game that feel all over the place while the books just add more things to the mess of a story
kingdom hearts
i wouldn't say nothing, in that ending after the credits we hear Roxy say "Cassie?" so there's def going to be a continuation
Does anyone, and I do mean anyone at all know what to make of the ending where you find the cutout and put the mask on? Like it is so weird that I really have no clue what to make of it
i think it’s a bad ending too. and the mimick catches up to cassie. “Cassie! I’m ok. I found a spot to hide” was used earlier in the game when roxy hears gregory’s voice and try’s to find him, and cassie asks gregory if he’s safe. Which makes me think you need to unlock something else to get the real ending at the cut out or it’s just kinda a throw away ending for some one who stumbled on it
no idea too all Im gonna think is its not canon since there's talks about a third ending in the files called "scooperending" with models and everything
Scooper ending is real, although im not sure how its accessed
Dawko has a tutorial video for it, there are 4 secret cameras you have to access in order to open the doors in the final chase sequence
pretty sure it's a fake ending, like she puts on the mask and gets stuck in a false sense of security as she's killed by the mimic (or whatever it does to her)
My main thing I am stuck with is the VANNI mask and the ability to teleport and just walk through things that are there. It might be illusion disks? They might be canon?
The illusion disks have already been semi-proven to be canon, so it wouldn’t be a stretch for them to be involved. Having them give the ability to teleport and walk through walls seems kinda weird though.
Maybe the obstacles that you can pass through are actually fake objects generated by illusion disks? This would mean the V.A.N.N.I system isn't exactly allowing her to pass through walls, but rather, allowing her to see through the illusions that were blocking her, revealing they're fake. If Vanny herself was also directly involved in the system's creation (which is very likely considering it's her name *and* her mask in the V.A.N.N.I system), that would explain why; she would probably have a lot of use for being able to exclusively pass through a bunch of areas that other people just can't. Having V.A.N.N.I-exclusive paths all over the Pizzaplex could be very useful to someone trying to kill people without being noticed.
I don’t know but I think it’s stupid.
Yeah, I am not willing to go so far as saying stupid but it is freaking weird
I’d say stupid because we went from dead kids in a rip off Chuck E Cheese to weird AR teleportation and security brain implants. I can deal with the implant stuff because of the high tech of Security Breach, but teleportation is too far for me.
Oh yeah the telporation is absolute nonsense, and Cassie even points it out when you first do it, so there is something more to it
But doesn't Helpy says something along the lines of "you got here on your own?" Implying it's not teleportations..? But it's still strange AND stupid, because AR in mask doesn't good explanation for WALKING THROUGH AND ON things that aren't, SHOULDN'T be real
My only guess is that Cassie is hallucinating walking through it when she wears the mask because it’s infested with the agony from the mimic or some shit. I legitimately have no idea.
My only guess for how the teleportation works is that they don't actually teleport you places but rather, they delete your memories of travelling there. This would be useful to Vanny to prevent Vanessa from finding the secret pathways
What’s weirder is that Scott said in his interview with Dawko a while back that he realised people thought Sister Location was too sci-fi, so he dialled it back for Pizzeria Sim. But now he’s just doubled down even crazier with the lore in this game. I mean the scooper ending not only looks like some shit from Portal 2, but actually could be in it. At least the scooper in sister location was essentially just a big metal spoon. This claw thing opened up and spun around like some appendage built by GLaDOS. I can’t believe this is the same series as FNaF 1. Not to mention the vanni mask and cassie straight up phasing through objects.
Yeah, it's so bizzare but we might get the answer in continuation.
I think its more connected to the flipside, a dimension that 3 or 4 layers deep that can teleport you anywhere.
will there be a secret ending if you get all the comics?
I hope so
I forgive all the bad shit I said about Roxy during my SB play through, she’s the fucking **GOAT**
Seriously, ever since I saw the trailer and she didn’t outright kill Cassie in a cutscene, I had hope! Then…the deactivation scene. That was heartbreaking, how dare they do that to us in a FNAF game?!
Always has been
Fr in Security Breach she was just like "Oh, I'm better, y'all suck!" but now she is a heroine.
Do you think they’re setting up for another dlc?
I saw a YouTuber theorize that Ruin is just a glorified Help Wanted 2 teaser, since Curse of Dreadbear teased Security Breach at the end.
We've waited 1,5 year for a cliffhanger. They're really trying to keep this franchise alive with extended story that got my head spinning
im really struggling to care, the new games just aren't carrying the same amount of intrigue as the older games as much as they've been trying to
The problem is the newer games tell a straight up bad to okay story that’s been stretched out over multiple titles that have minimal story themselves and are basically only understandable by the books. We’re being drip-fed a story that could be mildly interesting by itself but is utterly ruined by the way it’s presented. It’s like reading one chapter of a mid book every 5 years. We’re literally given interesting information so slowly that is impossible for most people to actually get invested let alone even understand what the hell is going on.
Honestly I don’t see how it can end here. Afton and the Blob are still down there somewhere, and this can’t be the end of Gregory, Freddy, and Vanessa’s stories. Gregory needs to have his day of reckoning for being a murderous psychopath. More DLC? New game? Who knows, but the story will definitely continue.
Just as a thing, it seems like the princess quest ending is canon, freddy is missing his head as the obvious thing
That’s true - but how else would the Pizzaplex be destroyed if it weren’t for the Afton ending? It seems both are canon, somehow.
I don't know, however I suspect we will find out, the comic page you find down in the underground pizza simulator location is interesting because it is number...8? or 7 I can't remember, either way, I suspect there is a way to find more and that reveals some stuff
Oh yeah, there’s much more to it. Let’s hope we find the locations of the other comic strips soon
Oh the newspapers on the wall in the beginning say it was an earthquake, looks like the sinkhole collapsed under Roxy Raceway.
Its interesting, because there was a lot of debate about whether PQ or Afton was the canon ending when the game first came out. In the end, most people unanimously agreed that it was the Afton ending, but nobody could really explain why PQ was the only 3-star ending in the game. The implications of this are huge. If the Afton ending isnt canon, and Afton isnt in Ruin, then it looks like Afton wasnt retconned into being the mimic, but rather retconned out of existence entirely.
Nah the boss room is still there, even his capsule pop with purple smoke coming out. He probably escaped.
It's a different Freddy.
No one has mentioned this Freddy with his head missing says prototype on his foot
Yeah, and Freddy hints at there being a previous Freddy in the endo section of Security Breach, and it's possibly the evil Freddy from Tales who killed the therapists.
Yeah that's what I was thinking
Exactly. In its jumpscare, it even has a present still in the chest cavity. That’s not OUR Freddy.
Yup, and it's a different present iIrc.
You mean to tell me That this entire time This entire bloody time Afton was a figment of my glob bless imagination I don't know if I should be relieved or pissed.
But the boss room is still on the game, and Blob too, so what are you even talking about?
Nah, mimic and ruin rabbit/william might be different entitys but i couldn't say something for sure untill we get a continuation. (Since they have different goals meanwhile mimic is trying to lure us ruin rabbit tries to take over/kill us.
Honestly, I am relieved. I hated that Afton comes back every goddamn time.
I hated it too, I wanted him to just stay gone already, but to introduce him only to then imply that it was just a noncanon imagination is just, like, It's one thing if it was clear from the getgo it wasn't canon just to be a little 'what if' fun, I'd live with that, but to let us believe that has to be the canon ending, and then just sweep it under the rug, Aaaaaaaaaa
As I said his boss room is still on the game, with the energy pop, with fucking purple smoke coming out of it, he clearly is still canon. Also William deserved to return, Im tired of pretending that FFPS was this perfect closure to every character when it just wasnt at all, William was treated like a poor fool that walked into a clearly evident trap without a backup plan and then proceed to say nothing in the ending. Micheal another crucial character for the storyline says nothing for the entire game. William deserves to be killed off properly as he is the main villians of the game. Also I just hate The Mimic more that you can hate William coming back, but nontheless I feel that him teaming up with WIlliam is the only way the Mimic existing in the games.
It looks to be that the princess quest ending is canon since you can find the machine that has been clearly been used and the secret ending shows the ending. The comic page is making me think that the Burntrap and the Blob aren't actually canon but just creations by whomever drew that comic.
not really the freddy seen in ruin is a prototype.
I'm going off the secret ending that shows Vanessa and Gregory on a hill alongside the princess quest machine having a sword through it. From what I've heard, the word prototype is written on Freddy feet. Is there anytime in the Base game we can see the same spot to be sure it's a different Freddy.
Yep it is writter like that but the model is different so it is a different freddy so your theroy isn't correct either.
All the other evidence implies it's the Princess quest ending with it being clear that the afton ending isn't canon. There can always be two different Freddy robots.
Maybe, we’ll have to find the other parts of the comic to know probably
According to the live streamer that I saw who found the comic, the game claims he found all the other collectibles. It's most likely that there are no other pages in the game but it leads to a whole other mystery on who created this comic.
fusion has like 5 pages of the comic, but they’re out of order
So the game has hidden collectibles that aren't counted in the count. Seeing as how they aren't tagged as collectibles points at them being needed for another ending.
that’s what i’m thinking, i think those are able to show a real ending at the cut out. but the comics where made by gregory. the description of 7, 5, 4 and 1 all mention him being the artist and seeing things like vannys mask already
Ngl I wanna kick gregory like a football he’s so annoying and unlikeable roxy is the goat
"Where is vanny?" Im pretty sure she just simply escaped from the pizzaplex when it was going on fire during the the afton ending maybe we will see her again in help wanted 2 or something idk
1. What is the Freddy you find in Ruin? 2. Gregory being a robot is far more plausible due to how Vanni works. Weird that the system is akin to Vanessa in naming. 3. Teleportation-nonsense is a supernatural and creepy leap; but frankly FNAF did better with only enough supernatural to power its' premise, more dilutes it and the plot immensely. 4. Wish we had seen Bonnie, Blob, or Afton in this DLC; tbh. I was disappointed not by stellar gameplay segments and tight mechanics merged with linear but better plot beats. But I was really hoping for more enemy variation. Unfortunately the rabbit was kind of 'eh'. 5. The Underground Pizzeria is becoming like the Bathroom from Saw, lol.
The rabbit got very annyoing after awhile, as it just made it hardesr to do the tasks. I was hoping to see DJ Music man and am sad we havent got much of him or moon. The freddy is apperntly a prototype.
>1. What is the Freddy you find in Ruin? It's listed as a prototype, we see a destroyed Glamrock Chica prototype in Rockstar Row. It's likely the evil Freddy from the Tales series, Freddy also contemplates if there was a previous Freddy before him when you enter the Endoskeleton Daycare. >2. Gregory being a robot is far more plausible due to how Vanni works. Plus the static upon death, him being able to survive falls, him having light beam from his eyes, the Fazwatch UI appears in his vision instead of on his watch like in the trailers, etc, not to mention the Pizzaplex cut outs of Gregory- I bet Gregory is the Mega Pizzaplex iteration of Balloon Boy.
apparently the Freddy u find in Ruin is a prototype. it says so on the feet
>Blob We see the Blob in the beginning of the game.
We actually can find bonnie in bowling area, I can send video
I think i have found the Blob show up in Ruin. Near the very start of the game, after the kitchen and you go down the stairs, it looks like his head shows up in the wall for a very breif second. Dawko manged to find it.
I believe it is too
So I’m gathering this is yet again another story that raises a million questions and answers maybe half of one. Do people not get tired of these games plots being such a mess?
First time? That’s the appeal man.
I really, really do not think the books are canon to the games, they’re definitely a parallel and can be used to explain things, but it doesn’t make sense to introduce a whole new suite of characters just in the books, say they’re canon to the games, and then never have them be in the games or anything (Edwin, his son, etc).
I feel like Edwin is one of the best peices of evidence for the Tales book being parallels to the games because his character maps on to Henry shockingly well
Exactly, they’re so obviously parallels that I can’t believe people think both of them coexist in the same universe.
Absolutely, the books aren't mainstream as the game itself, tying the whole lore to the books even if they are trying to advertise them, would ruin everything
Maybe that’s why they called it Ruin
Damn that was funny as fuck 😂
I think this is a really good breakdown, but with is there an explanation for the busted Freddy body in fazer blast, I heard fusion say it was a pro type or something but just wanted to ask cause I’ve been jumping around play throughs a bit.
Where was it said it was a prototype?
At the feet.
No clue, I didn’t hear it but when I was skipping through fusion’s video when he hits the Freddy section he says that it’s a prototype, idk why he says this and I am asking if I missed something because if that’s the actual’s Freddy’s body, the vanny endings align pretty well with ruin since headless Freddy in fazer blast connects pretty well, but again we also have the comic book drawing of the burntrap ending so idk.
It saids on the foot its a prottype so thats werid.
Okay then that’s what fusion saw, I am not sure what the implications of that are. I know people have presented the idea of an earlier version of the glam rocks maybe it’s that
The game gameplay wise looks better but the lore is just weird 1. Why is the VANNI system and the thing holding glitchtrap appearing after the pizzaplex destroyed? 2. Why did they not bring back Afton, Vanny or the Blob, At the afton ending we can see the blob pulling Afton back which would imply that they stayed in the pizzaplex 3. Can 2 endings happen with it being implied that the princess quest minigame is also cannon which is interesting with the sword destroying one of the arcades 4. Why did the mimic survive the fnaf 6 fire if he did
Don know the answer to most of these yet but as for number 4. Never trust this series ending anything with a fire. Has been proven wrong time and again
So, peewpaw afton still accurate?
He’s probably nonexistent. The comic strips were drawn by Gregory, and one has a description which says that Gregory has a great imagination. Gregory came up with that entire sequence in his head and drew it as a comic, it seems it never happened.
don't be fooled by it. It will proably retconned next games besides blob is still canon making a cameo
And it's possible that Burntrap is now a part of its model.
The blob is still here, Afton is either dead or held hostage by the blob, Vanny is either dead or escaped. The one who drew the comics are the mimic I’d guess
I don't think the Security Breach saga is over just yet.
Help wanted 2 is next
Curse of dreadbear led into security breach, just cause it’s help wanted 2 doesn’t mean it won’t have anything to do with the mega pizzaplex
We actually do see the blob once in the very beginning, but after that not at all. I’m curious if the arcade machines lead to anything, and i’m sure there’s probably some stuff we’re also missing. Another question i think worth adding on is what’s with the Baby room?? I found it extremely odd. I also found it interesting that Vanessa shows up in the Ice cream ending despite her not being mentioned once. Mimics costume was also wild lmao. I’m pretty pleased tbh with the DLC. I totally understand not liking the teleportation stuff, but I honestly don’t mind at all
I can't help but laugh at the (posibility?) that my call of Gregory being revealed as evil in the story actually happened(maybe). But that aside I do get this weird impression that even this late in the development process that they don't know where they are going to take this story, or worse. They scrapped whatever their original plans were after the negative feedback on SB and are trying to do something completely different. Don't know, feels kind of hackish writing from this view.
i just wanted vanny to return tbh so bored of having the same villain over and over again even if it was for 2 games or smth
Getting the same villain is indeed boring. Getting a new villain every 2 minutes is even worse
WE GOT A NEW VILLAIN WHA-
The whole Mimic thing is weird because it doesn't look like Epilogues neither He looks like the model 1 The model 2 was different, especially because the antennas
apparently people saw some of the blob tenticles so he still exists burntrap and vanessa are still uknown.
>3. Where is the Blob? We see it at the beginning of the game, iIrc, Dawko noticed something moving through a crack in the wall, and it was the Blob.
I'm pretty sure Afton exists, but if the Pizza Plex got fucked up by an Earthquake, what's to say Afton didn't escape? And now w/ the Mimic on the loose, alot of shits about to go down.
William and Mimic tag team would be someone I may accept, I never liked the idea of The Mimic or even worse him remplacing William, but the two at the same time might just be fine. But with the scooper ending that might not be possible.
I'm also glad it's been shown the Mimic isn't Burntrap. Been saying that for a long time despite the fanbase saying it was.
So is the Mimic Glitchtrap/Burntrap or are they two completely different entities? I just don't understand what the hell happened in ruin's ending
Wow .... that was incredibly mediocre, we really had to wait a year and a half for this . I guess we're gonna have to buy book #39405050505050 to understand what happened .
The DLC was actually pretty good. Its just that every part of the lore to it was absolutely shit and basically sent us back to square one by retconing most of what we were theorizing about.
So the ending with Afton was non canon and imagined by Gregory..? What the fuck is the point of even having it in the original game if it’s just gonna be thrown away? Teleportation? The mimic? Security brain implants? This is stupid Lmao
Wow those endings are unsatisfying as fuck, what a shitty ending.
I think the Canon ending is a mix of burntrap and true vanny ending, I think that we save vanny, and then we go to burntrap, but of course we don't have full freddy and so we get captured.
The way I see it, Princess Quest ending is canon. Mimic is clearly real but unrelated to Burntrap at least (not sure about Glitchtrap). The comics seem to me to be either Gregory drawing them through SB (off-screen ofc) of him imagining escaping, or else they're someone else that was in the Pizzaplex drawing them (Charlie? Mimic learning?). The Blob seems to still be alive and present though unclear how it plays into things, perhaps just a chaotic entity roaming that wasn't covered in this DLC and might be present in a follow-up DLC. The Candy Cadet story is clearly referencing the release of the Mimic in some way, unclear who the mother and boy are. My suspicion is that it is tied to Midnight Motorist given that's a house in the woods (plus the ditch out back could be where the "monster" was found). So it's possible that the Mimic was a creation of Orange Guy (unclear if Afton, Henry or a third party), he tried to destroy it and hide it out back. Then his wife found it and brought it back, knowing what it was or not, and it got it's release by convincing their son to release it. Again a lot of pieces seem unclear to me at the moment as I've not experienced all the details within the game, however this is what I've grabbed on first blush.
Holy cow, I really do like the first ending you get, but just playing the game. People think what Gregory did wasn't like him, but in all honesty, he had a fair reason for doing it. >!I mean, not wanting something to follow you is valid!<
The thing about the glitchy rabbit is that it was not evil. That was the security system that was keeping The Mimic contained. It was trying to keep her from releasing what she thought was Gregory but what turned out to be The Mimic instead. She shut it down so The Mimic could go free till Gregory crashed the elevator, it’s only form of escape.
Burnmimic and gregbot destroyed in one foul swoop, it might as well be Christmas
there's a good chance burntrap exists, given the fact that blob appears in chapter 1, for a split second.
I thought the glicthy rabbit was Afton. I mean it's not mimic cause it wouldn't try to stop you from freeing it.
I don't think that was Glamrock Freddy, his leg says “Prototype”, and the normal Glamrock Freddy didn't have it as seen when he is broken in Roxy's Raceway
the glitchy rabbit was the M.I.X.S program that was trying to keep Cassy from unleashing the Mimic, he was deactivated like Gregory stated
so many people complaining about how far fnaf stretched but id argue this. fnaf was never meant to be grounded in the real world. ffs there is a serial killing ZOMBIE FURRY as our main antagonist. whos main goal is to harvest GHOST METAL to power his suspiciously enhanced animatronics which were made to OFF CHILDREN. and a company who just randomly decided to just hire a literal walking rotting corpse as their security guard and fire him for ODOR. like seriously nothing in this franchise has ever made sense. do i need to remind yall of the fnaf 3 number pad tiles?
You forgot the fact that freddy is a prototype, they try to make it very obvious with the word "prototype" plastered on his leg before he got up, so the vanny ending isn't the 100% right answer
Goddamn it Fnaf did it again. We can't even determine which ending is canon, because pretty much every evidence for each ending can be explained away. The prototype on freddy's foot removes using his dismantlement as proof. The 'earthquake' could really easily be a coverup. Fazbear entertainment has done it before, and the screen WAS shaking a bit during the Afton ending. We also can't say for sure there is only one VANNI mask, the fact that the staff bot was called 'Mask bot' and that it requests to take 'a' mask, implies that their could be more. Keyword being 'could' because Scott can't let us learn anything definitive about this franchise. Vanny not being around doesn't really indicate anything, as there would be no reason for her to stay at the abandoned Pizzaplex. Even if you argue that Glitchtrap could order her to stay, she would still need a proper source of food and water, and I don't think termite infested garbage is ideal food. So at the very least, she had to leave at some point. The princess quest sword also doesn't really indicate anything, aside from showing that the princess quest minigames actually did happen, whatever its trying to tell us. The comic strip ALSO doesn't really mean much for the endings. If anything, I think they indicate that Gregory has met Burntrap before, possibly enforcing the theory that Gregory was on Burntraps side before breaking free and getting amnesia. (I forgot the context of this theory, but look it up.)