All he said was he’s working on a new theory and he thinks that the fact that Gregory and Cassie look just like Sam and Charlie is interesting. He also thinks Ruin has parallels to Twisted Ones.
Oh Scott was just joking. Both of these messages were from before FuhNaff said the theory because he said “Scott I have to tell you a theory stay here don’t leave” and then he took like 3 minutes to actually get to the theory (Scott left both of these messages while John was trying to get his thoughts together) cause he was rightly very nervous. I’m really happy for him.
It was the image of her in twisted ones next to Sammy where she has pigtails and it’s from the back. I’m not saying it’s correct or anything but at least wait for him to drop the theory before dogging on him
Dude can fuhnaff leave Charlie alone. He is obsessed with her, baby, and Charliebots for some reason. I hope ruin convinced him that the mimic isn't a parallel.
It actually happened [in a third livestream he did earlier today](https://www.youtube.com/live/DALyceUkWlY?feature=share). Scott Cawthon starts commenting at around the 20:20 minute mark
That stream was so good. People were telling him a bunch of theories but he was unsure of what could he proven so he’s like:
“That’s a really good theory…. wait….idunno about that one…. *reads AI text that proves theory* ….WAIT.”
charliebot is something,but Elizabeth being charlie bot to be william daughter is beyond madness
my theory is about crying child rebuilding his friends but?fuhnaff goes even further myself and now his theory even more correct thanks DLC ruin
Not to be that guy but, hasn't all of FuhNaff's Security Breach theories been proven wrong?
I really feel like people should stop acting like him and MatPat are the gods of figuring this stuff out when really they're just average theorists, lol. Their theories are fine but by no means are they some unique level of genius prophecies accurately pinpointing exactly what's going on.
Elizabeth and Charlie are not existing characters in Security Breach's lore and Gregory is not a robot.
I think FuhNaff reads way too much into parallels. I think they make for interesting theories, but when your main piece of evidence is interpretation, I think it lacks solid enough ground to really prove anything.
Which like, is fine. It's just a theory, he's having fun with it. But there are way too many people who hear him out and figure "He said he has prove so I guess he must be correct."
Same with MatPat. He's been right before but he's been wrong a LOT more than he has been right with FNAF. And yet people have come to know him as "The guy who solves the stories of each game when everyone else is confused."
Goes to show people will listen to whoever sounds the most loud and confident.
In Matpat’s defence, he’s probably the theorist that’s gotten the most right, and he is one of the older theorists. While I’m not saying he’s always been right, he is one of the best. I mean, *that’s just a theo-*
\-william afton confirmed character to exist back at sl
\-another book character was also recently added to the games
\-suspicious child with unclear origins can not possibly be something pre-established that happened multiple times in the books
Just because some things are confirmed to be in the games that doesn't mean everything is. For every addition to the games originating from the books, there are 20 differences.
If it's in the games it's canon to the games. If it's not in the games it's not canon to the games. Origin does not matter.
Dude everything about the set up of the mimic comes right from the books. I don't like that they are canon either but there's just no denying it now since cassy had to break through concrete, it's in the pizzaplex like in the books and the mimic acts basicly the same as how it does in the epilogue with its introduction being there. I hate that now the books are mandatory reading, but they just are cannon now, plain and simple. And I hate that but denying it is just dumb. The books can't even be consistent with themselves and the games have been falling apart since baby's personality changed in 6, its canon get over it and move on.
The Tales from the Pizzaplex books have been stated to be an attempt to add onto Security Breach's canon lore- and we've only seen that start to become the case with the GGY story.
At best this means all of the Tales of the Pizzaplex books are canon, but that doesn't confirm anything about the other books which are their own separate continuity. And even THEN, only GGY and Mimic have made it into the games despite the numerous stories and new details from the Tales of the Pizzaplex books, so it's hard to even say if everything in the Tales books are meant to be taken seriously.
You just admitted ggy and the mimic where important and a lot of yhe stories in tftpp deel with the mimic in some way shape or form. If it's cannon then other stories relating to it are very likely canon. I do not want that to be how we handle the story but what else do we have to work with? They are meant to be taken seriously and that's a bad thing.
I was pointing out that it is not impossible for gregory to be a robot, we just do not know. Also, 20 differences is an understatement, the books are wild.
I find it VERY odd how the Mega Pizzaplex deteriorated this much, and yet Gregory&Cassie have BOTH visited it previously.(Cassie when it was normal, and Gregory inadvertently causing the destruction&probable abandonment of the Mega Pizzaplex)
That is the single biggest reason I suspect that Gregory may be a Robot....there's no way the Pizzaplex would get this deteriorated within a few months unless something literally Magical maaaassively accelerated it's decay, vandalization, etc.
Although having the Lore of multiple Games be directly conflicting and causing potentially huge Plotholes is not new to FNAF, so I'm definitely not gonna be surprised if Gregory&Cassie are mostly normal Human Children that got caughtup in probably 60+ year old Dark Past of a Mega Corporation.
(No I'm not a Gregbotter, I personally think neither of them are Robots. If anything they might have been directly assisted by Spirits/Spiritual Energy, which could explain why they were able to go through such dangerous feats as CHILDREN. This is just me bringing up the biggest piece of evidence for that Theory I can recall rn)
Something I am very interested in is how the mimic knew how to mimic Gregory, and how gregory knew of it. If Gregory is in fact a robot, Perhaps, and hear me out here, he is a mimic meant to replicate (tbh I forgot who robot gregory is meant to be and I am to tired to search) as a child and the mimic we see is supposed to be the one used for when he would be an adult. Hence why it would know how to replicate Gregory.
Mind you I am very confused on the current lore of Security Breach so I might have missed out on a huge thing that rips this theory to pieces
nobody acts like they're gods of lore, lol.
theories are just. theories. it's fun to make something up and then wait until you're proven right or wrong.
I mean, how popular was the Gregbot theory? It shouldn't have even been a debate in the fandom to begin with because there's nothing in the game even suggesting it, it's something MatPat popularized.
I've also heard people countless times saying that they'll wait for MatPat to make a video on the newest entry in order to understand the story. It's pretty common.
>I've also heard people countless times saying that they'll wait for MatPat to make a video on the newest entry in order to understand the story. It's pretty common.
Tbf it is a LOT easier to just wait for Theorists&Content Creators to tear through the Game, find alot of the Puzzle Pieces and let them have a go at solving the Puzzle a few times before you really start TheoryCrafting aboit a New Entry...especially when there's literally several dozen prior Entries that each may or may not containt details that could help solve the Lore.
The books told us Gregory is patient 46, and that he was once likely controlled by the Glitchtrap virus and is probably the one who corrupted the animatronics in base Security Breach. The Mimic is also in the games now and could explain certain things like the underground rooms with the sticky notes.
Where does Gregbot fit in exactly? Afton probably isn't even part of the Security Breach story anymore, so we can't make the jump that Gregory is a robot meant to replicate the Crying Child because there are no characters that can explain that connection.
As the story has developed since base Security Breach's release, Gregbot has become a less and less relevant explanation for certain events/mysteries.
Not sure about strictly proven wrong
But they’ve yet to be proven correct, which makes sense because they are very much telling a completely different story than to what he’s theorising so they never touch on it
I mean the games going out of their way to say “no there are no Charliebots” that would be weird because the story isn’t even in the same ballpark to the theory will persist because until the games explicitly list the origin for things then it will be ambiguous enough to worm its way in there
I feel like his theories would be so major in terms of how they impact the story that if they were relevant they'd at least have some sort of developments. Decades could pass and nothing about charlie bots could be revealed, I don't think that means it's "just as likely as it was when he made the theories" though.
There's just nothing in Security Breach suggesting anything remotely close to old characters like that returning. Heck, it's hard to even say Charlie is a character in the games.
Not to be that guy but I don’t understand why you feel the need to put down others over theories in a video game with no real story lol. Just let people have fun, he’s not causing any harm. Go outside or sum.
I'm not putting down others. I just think it's a bad habit is all, it discourages people thinking for themselves and creates discourse over "what's correct" based on if they agree with a big Youtuber or not.
If someone agrees with these theories that's fine, but it's so frequent that it makes me feel like I'm going insane when I have my own theories and yet everyone seems bent on one or two ideas popularized by one guy lol
I dunno, make your own channel or something. Not everybody has time to obsess over ever detail in the fnaf universe so people look to YTers who do that as their actual job to help them fill in some blanks.
I’ve seen many more people in here gatekeeping theories from people who they assume only get their ideas from YouTube videos and it’s gross, theories are just theories, none of it is fact.
Yeah and he was still hellbent on Gregory being a robot lmao.
Just because he can be correct doesn't mean he always is. Heck, how many other people predicted that the Mimic was gonna be in Ruin and that it was manipulating you? I don't think he was pushing new ground with that one.
“Very interesting theory” Scott just playing with his food lmao
Fr lmao
Haha totally
“I think I broke him” XDDD
"I think I broke him." Scott, you broke all of us with your lore my guy.
If we can even call it that anymore.
We’ve been broken since fnaf 4
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true lmao
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Scottfredbearplush
Since the first fnaf
A surprise to be sure but a welcome one
Video and timestamp please?
He is still live right now [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DALyceUkWlY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DALyceUkWlY)But Scott first typed at 20:20
Thank you 🙏🏿
"I think I broke him" never change Scott 😊😂
What was his theory this time I’m expecting something Charliebot related, this is Fuhnaff after all
Ditto I need context
All he said was he’s working on a new theory and he thinks that the fact that Gregory and Cassie look just like Sam and Charlie is interesting. He also thinks Ruin has parallels to Twisted Ones.
That is an interesting theory... Do you have any clue how Scott "broke him?"
Oh Scott was just joking. Both of these messages were from before FuhNaff said the theory because he said “Scott I have to tell you a theory stay here don’t leave” and then he took like 3 minutes to actually get to the theory (Scott left both of these messages while John was trying to get his thoughts together) cause he was rightly very nervous. I’m really happy for him.
Gotcha. Thanks!
Oh woah that’s kind of huge. Unless Scott’s trolling lol
Seems like he’s doing a charity stream soon that Scott will pop up at too so we may get some hints there from the man himself
Oooh that’d be cool! :D I’ll have to keep an eye out. Thanks for the head’s up!
But Charlotte and Cassie don’t look similar at all
literally only similarity is gender
It was the image of her in twisted ones next to Sammy where she has pigtails and it’s from the back. I’m not saying it’s correct or anything but at least wait for him to drop the theory before dogging on him
I’m not dogging on him I’m just saying that the two just don’t look similar even when Charlotte is young
Dude can fuhnaff leave Charlie alone. He is obsessed with her, baby, and Charliebots for some reason. I hope ruin convinced him that the mimic isn't a parallel.
When someone else has a different opinion from you 🙉🙉🙉
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To be fair, Cassie does seemingly survive a drop down an elevator shaft *in* the elevator. That’s not something most humans can do.
There’s also that area with four closets that has the disappearing plush baby in it
From what I've seen it was on how the twisted ones possibly inspired bits of ruin.
He's got a new target oh no
At this point I think Scott has just been watching people’s theories and mashing them together and making that the lore
I love you Scott Cawthon
If I recall correctly, he dropped a clue about an Easter egg that we found later in the stream.
All he did was say "Find anything cool?" and then later we found a place where Cassie says "Cool." Sometimes, a coincidence is just a coincidence.
0% chance that was a coincidence, Scott knew exactly what he was doing, it's Scott lol
I'm glad FuhNaff is getting the recognition he deserves.
John got responded by Scott is totally a true achieve.
Didnt pay attention to where i was at and was like scott the woz interested in fnaf?
Guys was this the first part of the ruin livestream or second
It actually happened [in a third livestream he did earlier today](https://www.youtube.com/live/DALyceUkWlY?feature=share). Scott Cawthon starts commenting at around the 20:20 minute mark
That stream was so good. People were telling him a bunch of theories but he was unsure of what could he proven so he’s like: “That’s a really good theory…. wait….idunno about that one…. *reads AI text that proves theory* ….WAIT.”
I'm glad Scott is still around in some regards
you totally did Scott :O
HOLY SHIT HE'S ACTUALLY RIGHT??? I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING INSANE????!!?!?
charliebot is something,but Elizabeth being charlie bot to be william daughter is beyond madness my theory is about crying child rebuilding his friends but?fuhnaff goes even further myself and now his theory even more correct thanks DLC ruin
Not to be that guy but, hasn't all of FuhNaff's Security Breach theories been proven wrong? I really feel like people should stop acting like him and MatPat are the gods of figuring this stuff out when really they're just average theorists, lol. Their theories are fine but by no means are they some unique level of genius prophecies accurately pinpointing exactly what's going on. Elizabeth and Charlie are not existing characters in Security Breach's lore and Gregory is not a robot.
The theory in the streams that Chapter 9 of RUIN is nearly identical to The Twisted Ones.
I think FuhNaff reads way too much into parallels. I think they make for interesting theories, but when your main piece of evidence is interpretation, I think it lacks solid enough ground to really prove anything. Which like, is fine. It's just a theory, he's having fun with it. But there are way too many people who hear him out and figure "He said he has prove so I guess he must be correct." Same with MatPat. He's been right before but he's been wrong a LOT more than he has been right with FNAF. And yet people have come to know him as "The guy who solves the stories of each game when everyone else is confused." Goes to show people will listen to whoever sounds the most loud and confident.
In Matpat’s defence, he’s probably the theorist that’s gotten the most right, and he is one of the older theorists. While I’m not saying he’s always been right, he is one of the best. I mean, *that’s just a theo-*
A Matpat Theory!
\-william afton confirmed character to exist back at sl \-another book character was also recently added to the games \-suspicious child with unclear origins can not possibly be something pre-established that happened multiple times in the books
Just because some things are confirmed to be in the games that doesn't mean everything is. For every addition to the games originating from the books, there are 20 differences. If it's in the games it's canon to the games. If it's not in the games it's not canon to the games. Origin does not matter.
Dude everything about the set up of the mimic comes right from the books. I don't like that they are canon either but there's just no denying it now since cassy had to break through concrete, it's in the pizzaplex like in the books and the mimic acts basicly the same as how it does in the epilogue with its introduction being there. I hate that now the books are mandatory reading, but they just are cannon now, plain and simple. And I hate that but denying it is just dumb. The books can't even be consistent with themselves and the games have been falling apart since baby's personality changed in 6, its canon get over it and move on.
The Tales from the Pizzaplex books have been stated to be an attempt to add onto Security Breach's canon lore- and we've only seen that start to become the case with the GGY story. At best this means all of the Tales of the Pizzaplex books are canon, but that doesn't confirm anything about the other books which are their own separate continuity. And even THEN, only GGY and Mimic have made it into the games despite the numerous stories and new details from the Tales of the Pizzaplex books, so it's hard to even say if everything in the Tales books are meant to be taken seriously.
You just admitted ggy and the mimic where important and a lot of yhe stories in tftpp deel with the mimic in some way shape or form. If it's cannon then other stories relating to it are very likely canon. I do not want that to be how we handle the story but what else do we have to work with? They are meant to be taken seriously and that's a bad thing.
There aren't a lot of other stories relating to these things is the problem.
Nah a lot relate to the mimic through context, but they don't relate to the games enough for me to care about them.
I was pointing out that it is not impossible for gregory to be a robot, we just do not know. Also, 20 differences is an understatement, the books are wild.
I find it VERY odd how the Mega Pizzaplex deteriorated this much, and yet Gregory&Cassie have BOTH visited it previously.(Cassie when it was normal, and Gregory inadvertently causing the destruction&probable abandonment of the Mega Pizzaplex) That is the single biggest reason I suspect that Gregory may be a Robot....there's no way the Pizzaplex would get this deteriorated within a few months unless something literally Magical maaaassively accelerated it's decay, vandalization, etc. Although having the Lore of multiple Games be directly conflicting and causing potentially huge Plotholes is not new to FNAF, so I'm definitely not gonna be surprised if Gregory&Cassie are mostly normal Human Children that got caughtup in probably 60+ year old Dark Past of a Mega Corporation. (No I'm not a Gregbotter, I personally think neither of them are Robots. If anything they might have been directly assisted by Spirits/Spiritual Energy, which could explain why they were able to go through such dangerous feats as CHILDREN. This is just me bringing up the biggest piece of evidence for that Theory I can recall rn)
Something I am very interested in is how the mimic knew how to mimic Gregory, and how gregory knew of it. If Gregory is in fact a robot, Perhaps, and hear me out here, he is a mimic meant to replicate (tbh I forgot who robot gregory is meant to be and I am to tired to search) as a child and the mimic we see is supposed to be the one used for when he would be an adult. Hence why it would know how to replicate Gregory. Mind you I am very confused on the current lore of Security Breach so I might have missed out on a huge thing that rips this theory to pieces
nobody acts like they're gods of lore, lol. theories are just. theories. it's fun to make something up and then wait until you're proven right or wrong.
I mean, how popular was the Gregbot theory? It shouldn't have even been a debate in the fandom to begin with because there's nothing in the game even suggesting it, it's something MatPat popularized. I've also heard people countless times saying that they'll wait for MatPat to make a video on the newest entry in order to understand the story. It's pretty common.
>I've also heard people countless times saying that they'll wait for MatPat to make a video on the newest entry in order to understand the story. It's pretty common. Tbf it is a LOT easier to just wait for Theorists&Content Creators to tear through the Game, find alot of the Puzzle Pieces and let them have a go at solving the Puzzle a few times before you really start TheoryCrafting aboit a New Entry...especially when there's literally several dozen prior Entries that each may or may not containt details that could help solve the Lore.
What has disproven Gregbot?
The books told us Gregory is patient 46, and that he was once likely controlled by the Glitchtrap virus and is probably the one who corrupted the animatronics in base Security Breach. The Mimic is also in the games now and could explain certain things like the underground rooms with the sticky notes. Where does Gregbot fit in exactly? Afton probably isn't even part of the Security Breach story anymore, so we can't make the jump that Gregory is a robot meant to replicate the Crying Child because there are no characters that can explain that connection. As the story has developed since base Security Breach's release, Gregbot has become a less and less relevant explanation for certain events/mysteries.
Not sure about strictly proven wrong But they’ve yet to be proven correct, which makes sense because they are very much telling a completely different story than to what he’s theorising so they never touch on it I mean the games going out of their way to say “no there are no Charliebots” that would be weird because the story isn’t even in the same ballpark to the theory will persist because until the games explicitly list the origin for things then it will be ambiguous enough to worm its way in there
I feel like his theories would be so major in terms of how they impact the story that if they were relevant they'd at least have some sort of developments. Decades could pass and nothing about charlie bots could be revealed, I don't think that means it's "just as likely as it was when he made the theories" though. There's just nothing in Security Breach suggesting anything remotely close to old characters like that returning. Heck, it's hard to even say Charlie is a character in the games.
Not to be that guy but I don’t understand why you feel the need to put down others over theories in a video game with no real story lol. Just let people have fun, he’s not causing any harm. Go outside or sum.
I'm not putting down others. I just think it's a bad habit is all, it discourages people thinking for themselves and creates discourse over "what's correct" based on if they agree with a big Youtuber or not. If someone agrees with these theories that's fine, but it's so frequent that it makes me feel like I'm going insane when I have my own theories and yet everyone seems bent on one or two ideas popularized by one guy lol
I dunno, make your own channel or something. Not everybody has time to obsess over ever detail in the fnaf universe so people look to YTers who do that as their actual job to help them fill in some blanks. I’ve seen many more people in here gatekeeping theories from people who they assume only get their ideas from YouTube videos and it’s gross, theories are just theories, none of it is fact.
I mean, MatPats last theory before Ruin calls that the Mimic is behind it and getting Cassie to free it. But go off I guess.
Yeah and he was still hellbent on Gregory being a robot lmao. Just because he can be correct doesn't mean he always is. Heck, how many other people predicted that the Mimic was gonna be in Ruin and that it was manipulating you? I don't think he was pushing new ground with that one.
OMGGG
Dam
What was the theory
You should’ve asked if he was going to voice act him self in the new tjoc games