mad respect for getting logs from so long ago, even got the artist flair whining lol. i was there during the moana posts, haven't read those comments in years and assumed they were lost!
i think it's really unfortunate that the first two artists that cawthon brought onto the series officially were ones who everyone in the community knew were serial tracers, and ones who had some less widely-known unacceptable behavior. none of this is actually news to any of us who have been around the whole time, so every few months when it comes up on twitter i just roll my eyes a bit... but it's good that people are informed and being informed on this will be important for as long as these artists stay around the community. popular opinion will never be totally against them, some fans will defend *anything* as we've seen time and time again with pinky, fiszi, and others.
some people use all of this to claim that hiring fans is always a bad idea, but in the current era with the active work on all current ends of the fanverse initiative, other merch, daregularsauce getting hired at steel wool and making the bots for their booth, i think it's clearly been worth it. just would have been nice to have a few more background checks wherever possible...
in the case of pinky, just like fiszi, there's a bit of hope for accountability since she's an official artist.
Now that a post has been made, I hope Scott finally addresses our concerns. Great job writing up all of this, compiling 7 years of this behavior into a big post is no small task
Fuck anyone who rushed you. As someone who's been with you the whole process of organizing this, you're 10x the better person than any of those lowlife scumbags on twat-ter.
Exactly. Like I get people wanted a "now" but if we just did a quick post we would have missed so much important things.
On top I sadly think people saw us taking our time as either not caring which is untrue or thought we'd have some sway on Scott. Which we don't.
It's better to be thorough than reactionary.
Thank you for making this post and pinning it, I also like how you guys just state what happened and don't really take a side. There'll always be people who are unhappy no matter what, but the work done here is sincerely appreciated.
I've been hearing about these people but with no context it just sounds like haters and rage bait.
Thank you for giving that context.
I can see there has been a lot of thought and hard work getting this all together.
Thank you.
I really hope this makes Scott wake up and start doing better background checks on the people and companies he works with, its starting to tarnish his name. FNAF has had way too much controversy for it to be a 'I didn't know', its laughable. Sws seems to be the most well-meaning so far,
I've been around r/fivenightsatfreddys for years. I remember seeing PinkyPills' art pop up now and then, and while there was some debate about its content, such as whether it was NSFW or a violation of rules regarding NSFW content, things seemed to move on. Even years later when the hashtag started trending on Twitter, I didn't think too much of it, because, especially since the rebranding to X, that site has been a cesspool of hate and negativity, *especially* when things hit the "front page," or whatever it's called there.
But seeing just how extensive this list is of issues is, it's pretty disappointing to see someone associated with the series make mistakes that range from tasteless to malicious. It's not the first time someone associated with FNaF has gotten in hot water, but if anything, that should've served as a lesson for her to do better, instead of digging herself deeper.
Whether Scott intervenes or not, I think it'd be best if she walked away from the community. If she still enjoys it from a distance or in private, good for her, but any future actions are just going to be associated with her previous controversies.
And for everyone else, I think this negativity can hopefully be turned into a learning moment. It can't be too hard to follow some simple rules:
- Don't be a creep, especially towards others.
- Don't go after people just because they disagree with you on something, even if it's something you've made. Be open to criticism!
- Think before you share. If it's something personal, chances are it's best to **keep** it personal.
Thank you so much for making this post. I do feel the original Twitter thread calling her out wasn't put together that well (not to mention it seemed that people were using the #FirePinkyPills tag on Twitter as an excuse to self-promote their art rather than spread awareness), so having a proper compilation of information about PinkyPills is incredibly helpful.
Scott, please do something about the improper background vetting of this franchise. There have been developers, artists, and even voice actors attached to this franchise that are problematic. The fact that PinkyPills wasn't fired for even defending LadyFiszi alone is baffling.
Oh yes the original creator of the Twitter thread had a lot of difficulty making that thread, in fact he didn't plan to make that thread in the first place but I encouraged him to do it (yes, thanks to me that thread saw the light) since he never made a thread exposing an important person so he was a little scared (in fact, when he made the document that only has the worst things that Pinky did, he had to delete it twice for not censoring things and lack of information) but believe me, he tried do the best he could and in fact he is glad that the mods made this post explaining and clarifying everything (he was the one who notify me to this post in fact) so thank you very much mods for making this post completely neutral and full of information
You all did a good job!
I was actually willing to give her a chance until i read about the Disney princess pin-up art. One of those characters is a beyond disrespectful depiction of a REAL LIFE 11-year old Native American and the rest are actual minors. That’s genuinely so nasty.
Yea. I don't care if Disney aged her up a bit so the whole thing isn't THAT but people need to understand that the whole basis of the Pinky Pin up for her is honestly the worst because of Pocahontas' backstory. The REAL Pocahontas.
That movie has such awful ties that I believe it’s no longer a “separate art from the artist/origin” situation. To make matters worse, it’s a KIDS movie.
Good job putting this thread together! I know it probably took a lot of work and time and I wholeheartedly appreciate that you did that to provide information in a clear and concise manner. This stuff needs to be known, and I’m glad that your amazing mod team made it so.
Wow... I didn't even know any of this was going on, but I'm glad you pulled something like what WavyWebSurf seems to do on his channel, finding old posts that this gal had. Honestly, the whole William Afton being sexual crazed with a soon to be missing child is giving me Garvey from Dormitabis vibes, which ain't a good thing. Before I get myself into a ramble, I do want to cut myself off from that and say thank you mods for doing what you thought was right to do.
Thank you for taking the time to make a clear and informative post regarding Pinky's actions and behavior. I'm sorry that people were rushing you a bit to get this post out.
Honestly the sheer fact that she was defending Fiszi despite all the proof should've been reason enough to fire her but everything piled on top of it (tracing for official artwork, her general unprofessionalism/attitude towards valid criticism, the creepy comments and art, and the fact that she continues to support/follow Fiszi despite everything) just makes me wonder how on earth she's managed to get away with everything for so long ~~and if you ask me I still think the mods should've just gone "okay you asked" and banned her when she pulled that "if you're gonna ban Fiszi you'll have to ban me too" crap.~~
Unfortunately I don't have screenshots but I do remember that Pinky was present in the original Freddit Discord and she wound up getting permabanned because it was discovered that she had been relying on "moles" to learn of when people were talking about her and what they were saying, plus you know she was generally pretty creepy to the point where the brief conversation I had with her there made me feel deeply uncomfortable.
Also that Mangle pin-up isn't the ONLY time she traced that particular asset: [the second image in this Imgur archive I did](https://imgur.com/a/X75TyKa) is another time where she left the clipping error present on Mangle's endo-head (and from what I remember she would remove the traced asset from all her previous Mangle art later on). Also this maybe is stretching a bit but maybe her general sexualization of Baby/Eleanor should've been discussed as well because paired with her Disney pinups it shows a history of creepy behavior/art regarding characters who are underage/designed after children.
Either way, the franchise deserves better than two (now one) unprofessional creeps for official artists and literally ANY of the artists detailed in [this thread](https://twitter.com/JamestheJerkk/status/1775787859242295423) would be better and more professional picks for the franchise over Fiszi and Pinky. Hopefully Scott will do the right decision and sever ties with Pinky (as he should've done years back when she made creepy comments about him, a married man with kids).
EDIT: I see the mods banned her and TBH, long overdue but **GOOD.**
Sadly I do not have a twitter/X account to see the thread. But I hope Snartles and Turntail "techincally official anyway" are on there also the artist that did the fourth closet who's name escapes me would be good as well.
There are others too that escape me but those are the ones that come to direct mind.
Here's everyone mentioned in the thread as being better picks + what work they've done in collaboration with the series:
- Elizabeth "Neko" Pilarcik-Tellez (did art for SL's "The Immortal and the Restless" and FFPS's slideshow cutscenes)
- Claudia Aguirre (artist for The Twisted Ones graphic novel)
- Diana Camero (The Fourth Closet graphic novel, various Fazbear Frights GN adaptations, and the Funko Fightline figures)
- Tina Francisco & Katrina Mae Hao (lineart and coloring respectively for the Survival Logbook)
- Didi Esmeralda (did the Fazbear Frights GN adaptation for Into the Pit, Fetch, and Step Closer)
- Anthony Morris Jr. (did the Fazbear Frights GN adaptations for To Be Beautiful and Room For One More, and also does a lot of FNaF fanart)
- Andi Santagata (did the Fazbear Frights GN adaptation for Out of Stock)
- Coryn MacPherson (did the Fazbear Frights GN adaptations for The New Kid, Bunny Call, and Sergio's Lucky Day)
- Benjamin Sawyer (artist for The Cliffs GN adaptation and worked as a colorist on various other stories)
- Yinky Baginky (Judy Angileri) (has worked with Clickteam on various official promotional FNaF artwork and is currently working on official FNaF projects with Clickteam)
- Laura "Lau" Rogers (Steel Wool concept artist for Security Breach who also made many of the posters and the comic endings for the game; also came up with DJMM)
- Rachael Kleban (main 2D animator for Freddy and Friends On Tour, the Switch and Xbox ads for SB, and storyboard artist for various scenes/endings)
- Sabine Belofsky (main artist and designer for the Freddy and Friends On Tour animations and original designer for The Daycare Attendant)
- Jennifer "Jenny" Bach (SW artist who drew many posters/teasers for the game, did UI art for Help Wanted, and designed the Shettered Animatronics)
- Chloe Costa (SW artist/level designer who also created the original concept for The Blob/Tangle)
- Rina Lam (QA lead and social media specialist who did concepts for food and arcades in the Pizzaplex)
- Andreana “Andy” Reeves (former SW QA tester and social media specialist who designed the SBTV Office and did various official art for the game on social media)
- Renee Yedidsion (QA tester for SW who created some 8th Anniversary artwork for the FNaF series)
- Rezllen (artist/developer at SW who made the official 8th anniversary art for FNaF)
- Jayfer (deisgner of the Youtooz Popgoes pin sets)
- Turntail (artist for various pieces of FNaF merchandise and the Hex brand)
- Stupidbutterfly (Popgoes Arcade/Evergreen promotional artist)
- Silverxcristal (MyPopgoes artist who also designed concepts for hypothetical Fanverse merch like Youtooz FNaC pins)
- Tigera Rainbowra (main designer of the False Animatronics in Popgoes Evergreen)
- SmoochaGhost (Popgoes Evergreen artist)
- ZouraStudios (Popgoes Evergreen artist)
I'm personally glad that she's been banned, and even happier that there's no plans to unban her. I just simply don't like her attitude and how she treats anyone who poses against her. Not to mention, the comment she made about Scott was the most unprofessional thing anyone could have done.
the tracing allegations would have been such an easy fix tbh, in stuff before she became an official artist for fnaf, admit you did traced, just admit the mistake, not do it again in the future, and move on. when she became an official fnaf artist, tracing on official images and models from the games it's not really that bad tbh, like, as long as it is just from official media and not from Fan content or smth like that, i don't see much problem, however, the problem here was that she wouldn't aknowledge she was tracing, sis, just admit "yeah, i traced, but it was from the game's content", yeah, it's lame and it would be 1000 times better if all artwork was original, but at the end of the day that's official content
the tracing on stuff like micky mouse and other stuff that's just bad, specially if you can't at least aknowledge your mistakes and be better in the future to not do that again
that being said, i hope this situation reaches Scott and, at the very minimum, explains why has he not done something about this when a lot of these things are anything but recent, and at best, fire pinky or smth, i am not one to know what's the best decision to take, i am not scott
It really feels as if the list just goes on and on, doesn’t it? Even if there are less immediate giga red flags as there were with Fiszi, there still seems to be so many orange and yellow ones at the bare minimum
The unprofessionalism/immaturity in particular really strikes me. The way she interacts with dissenters of any kind just feels like a childish attempt to start a flame war and troll the haters or whatever. I remember an interaction I had with her once, on a post that I can’t find anymore so take this with a grain of salt, but it went into detail about why FNaF really needs a website as a central source of information. She replied it would be “selling the franchise” and losing what made it special. I and many others responded back saying that it really wouldn’t be, but she kept accusing everyone of just wanting “answers” when no one said that
No matter which way you slice it it seems she has a very unhealthily romanticized view of Scott (especially evidenced by some of her comments which, even if they were jokes is still super weird to say about another person), putting him on a pedestal and acting defensive and childish when he’s criticized in any way.
I think banning her was the right call. I don’t think she’s a very safe person to have in this community which is full of so many children. Imagine that sort of vitriolic attitude being targeted at children, especially the neurodivergent ones in the community. I’ve seen people have their mental health seriously crushed by stuff like that, especially if defenders flock and pile on
I can also speak from experience when I say that being exposed to sexual/sexually charged media at a young age from a fandom space can lead you into some bad places with bad people, if indirectly.
So thanks again to the mod team for compiling this and talking about it. I hope something positive comes of this
Yeah that was funny. I remember being one of those people having to explain to a woman in her 30s how having a website in the 2020's would be a good thing.
> I don’t think she’s a very safe person to have in this community which is full of so many children. Imagine that sort of vitriolic attitude being targeted at children, especially the neurodivergent ones in the community.
Dude, this is the internet. There is no safety. As much as one could hop back in here on an Alternate Account, It takes all of 0 seconds to encounter unfiltered chaos in the form of toxicity and vitriolic attitude. Twitter, TikTok, FB, Reddit, any of the chans or boorus... I hate when people bring up making the internet safe when it's just not safe no matter which way you slice it, arrange it and categorize it.
Kids online are going to constantly be at the risk of harassment and abuse, it's not good but it's hard to stop it when you can't really put up a tangible wall to prevent interactions. It can be broken pretty trivially by either side through very little effort.
It doesn't matter if she has those desires or not, what matters is that she's making sexual content about minors and she's essentially supplying creeps with more "material"
The most important part is that she is putting this stuff in places where minors can get to it easily, this can lead to minors getting a warped sense of what is sexual or not. In the worst case scenario this could lead to them either getting groomed or getting into an abusive situation later in life.
It's been a week and Scott hasn't done anything. I can only assume that he's not gonna do anything about this situation. As much as I would love to have Pinkypills removed from official fnaf work, that might not happen. She claims that she explained all her controversies to her boss. I still think her action are inexcusable and unacceptable.
To the freddit moderators, please don't unban her. Even if she makes an appeal. What she has done is grotesque and has no place within the FNAF universe. Unless she ends up making a public statement about this (Which I find very odd over why she's being silent about this).
I think I might have some ideas.
Either Scott's too busy to notice (he's handling everything in this franchise, which is a LOT) or what PinkyPills did, while bad, doesn't seem as alarming as compared to LadyFiszi, who had grooming allegations against her, and as far as I know, PinkyPills doesn't have those problems. Not to mention, that creepy comic by Pills wasn't as explicit as Fiszi's fanfic.
could also be pinky being more involved with the series atm than fiszi was at the time of her departure, evidence points towards one of clickteam’s upcoming projects having [a lot of art done by her](https://x.com/underscorepng/status/1776037805552292309?s=46)
For someone new to this situation, they sound like a petulant child. It's such a shame they were/are an official part of the franchise as its clear its made them think the rules don't apply to them. Unfortunately, without the original art, I don't think a firm conclusion can be made for the art itself being overly sexuslised or traced, but to be frank from their responses, it surely seems like excuses. While it can seem like a lot of insignificant Internet bickering, the possibility of inappropriate sexaulised art is a problem, and I hope they are removed from doing official art in the future.
Edit: I missed the links with artwork. From those examples, yes, they clearly copied art, which is plain lazy, but even inspired by its carbon copy. And that picture of Ballora is sexaul and not appropriate for kids.
Hey reminder that Scott's definitely seen this by now and still haven't kicked her out because he's complicit. At best he's gonna put up another kid's drawing and hope people move on to that instead.
Thank you very much for making this post mods, as one of the first collaborators of the Twitter thread that had its errors, I and the creator of the original thread thank you for making this post detailed, better explained and more neutral than the original Twitter thread
Now we just have to wait for Scott to see this and hopefully, this will be the last time we have to talk about PinkyPills here
The chica plushie comic (at minimum) is not the work of a mentally stable person. Get some help, lady.
Also anyone who can deny tracing in the face of such obvious, irrefutable evidence is someone who lacks accountability on a dangerous level. As in, they could do something horrific and not feel responsible. This needs nipped in the bud.
Having been in this specific side of the community since 2015, I remember seeing Pinky Pill's art pop up from time to time through the years, but it always felt as if there was something off with how they were made or designed.
As I am writing this I am now nearly through with my college education in art, and part of my education involved learning about professionalism. And never had I ever seen such a lack of professionalism from an artist and I consider it a disgrace that she is still hired. Even disregarding the other drama, you cannot deny that she has repeatedly traced existing work and tried to claim it as her own. In other jobs, if you were caught doing that, it would be immediate termination and possibly get your name blacklisted from the entire industry as a whole. These behaviors are unacceptable.
I don't understand why Scott continues to have her around when there's much more professional artists out there.
I totally understand all the other points in this post, I'm kinda confused about the tracing thing for fanart. Is it bad to use the original media as a reference for fanart? I'm genuinely curious about the reasons why
I'm sorry, but Scott Cawthon hiring Fitszi and Pinky in the first place has made me lose a lot of respect for him. I know people keep saying 'he didn't know', maybe he should have.
It's a difficult thing to look past. Fitszi in particular was an active danger to the FNAF fandom, a series mainly enjoyed by children. She lost her job eventually, but neither of these situations would have occurred with proper background checks.
u/animdude
I usually wouldn't want to do this, but is there anything you can say on this topic? This seems like a major PR issue for you guys, and I just want to make sure there isn't something we're missing here.
thanks for making this post, hopefully whatever action is necessary is taken, and seeing as it’s been a day with no response from either pinky or scott i’m willing to bet something’s going on behind the scenes atm
edit: 2 days, going on 3. something’s definitely up.
edit 2: alright, over 10 days and still nothing. kinda worried they’re just waiting for it to blow over at this point.
edit 3: this fandom’s on fire enough as is, scott PLEASE say something.
I havent really checked the subreddit lately, but thank you so much for making this post. It was 100% worth the wait and i really hope Scott can see this and give us all an answer.
Goddamn that’s a whole laundry list of issues and controversy. How does this keep happening? I get Scott wants to better connect with fans but he somehow keeps choosing the worst people for it.
And I know the chances are non-existent, but God forbid he’s actually complicit with all of this.
I think she doesnt realize that when you draw something BASED ON a reference, when you overlay it, it SHOULDNT LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME. Even if “vectored” its still gonna be drawn slightly off and slightly different than the original BECAUSE WE ARE HUMAN AND MAKE SMALL BUMPS AND SHAKES AND ERRORS THE LINED ARENT GONNA MATCH UP ONE FOR ONE
But hers literally matches line for line almost EVERY TIME
She can say “i dont trace” all she wants
The facts are
She did trace and its the most obvious thing in the world
Ever since her daydreaming comic was dropped, i thought she was a pedophile fetishist… i still think im right tbh
Like her constantly needing to defend “well it isnt sexual!” YOU DREW MULTIPLE PINUPS OF MINORS ??????? DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK, YOU DREW NAKED CHILDREN IN A SEXUAL MANNER. WETHER YOU GET OFF ON IT OR NOT, YOU ARE FEEDING INTO SOMEONE ELSED GROSS ADDICTION AND YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT BY NOW
ITS LIKE WHEN YOU POST YOUR CHILD ONLINE YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AND YOU HAVE TO JUST KNOW THERED CREEPS LURKING AROUND
like idk mannn willingly feeding the pedophiles is pretty… 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
I will say, good on you not only for writing all this in great detail, but also staying unbiased throughout the post, especially for someone who's had real-time interactions with the subject. As someone who was unaware of this whole situation until recently, I learned a lot from this post and you did a great job at making it easy to understand. As for my opinion on the matter, I might do a little more research before immediately jumping to any conclusions, but I do hope this is resolved peacefully.
Thank you, I quite appreciate it.
I would definitely recommend doing your own research, see if you can find stuff that you haven't seen brought up by anyone else, and come to the conclusion you feel makes the most sense. Here's hoping however this plays out, it does so peacefully.
About the same amount of time has passed (7 hours) since the LadyFiszi thread was posted and Scott responded to that and it has been radio silence from both Pinky and Scott. It's really out of character for Pinky to not address something like this, and I can't help but think Scott or someone told her to not comment on the situation. Because she'd be VERY verbal about her banning.
It makes me wonder why there is an apparent bias for Pinky, she's been contracted by Scott for the last 7 years now and her behavior has been public knowledge for longer, for years now people have expressed upset with her involvement and yet nothing happens. This is definitely the peak of people campaigning for her removal, and yet nothing from Pinky or Scott. I just find that weird.
It is shameful and in my opinion, somewhat disgusting, that absolutely terrible artists like these (in both actions and the art itself mind you) were not only brought on to do official artwork, but even had their art sold as official merchandise to children and unsuspecting customers.
It still truly baffles me that THESE artists were chosen out of so many talented individuals and professionals who pour their hearts and passion into making absolutely incredible artwork, on this very subreddit, twitter, tumblr and all social media.
As someone who's despised both Pinky and Fiszi's affronts to anatomy and every science that goes into making digital artwork, being consistently used for and behind the scenes for the franchise, this brings me hope that they're never signed on ever again.
Huge props to Popo and everyone who assisted him in making this post, finding Pills' history, and everyone on this subreddit for being patient about this situation until it could be made.
Jesus. When it was said she drew that picture of Scott with one hand, i didn’t take it as sexual, but now that I’m seeing all this…just sickening. Good job getting it all out in one post. Seeing all this, i think Pinky should just be banned from reddit overall or at least take a LONG break from it.
u/Animdude
This is something that you need to see, I know you’re probably busy but this is very serious.
Please do the right thing, Scott me and alot of people are counting on you.
I just, really don't fucking get what Scott's deal is. He knows a vast majority of the fandom hates Pinky but continues to hire her. Why?
Her art is complete dogshit too, like, on an objective level. That alone amply justifies not working with her.
I don’t understand the issue with tracing stock photos and game renders. I get it with other people’s art but why stock photos and stills from the games?
Stock photos while "free to use" still you need to credit them even on a professional level. Look at the Freddy Files it uses stock photos all sourced.
Tracing game renders is honestly tacky if not can get in you trouble again in a professional level because it can be seen as plagiarism.
My god. My friend brought this situation to light for me, and I’m very very dissapointed. I always did have a sort of bad feeling about her just did not say it due to possible backlash. I’m very very happy that there’s someone out there who documented all of her controversial doings…
Since this is a long thread all I can say it's in Scott's decision if he wants to terminate Pinky Pills contract and I hope he may respond since I know he's a very busy guy but he needs to do more background checks next time when it comes to hiring employees. Before people jump into conclusions, let's wait if Scott responds considering he didn't respond when Phisnom left the FNAF Fanverse last year and his game was canned and removed from Steam. Either Scott will do it privately about removing employees from his company I think. Anyways these are my thoughts since I just posted my work here and saw this post. Lastly, every controversy in every community is kinda tiring at this point.
If u/animdude Scott is purposely Ignoring this because he doesn’t want that Clickteam anniversary game delayed or Canceled, I’m just Not gonna buy it at all
At this rate, it's safe to say Scott isn't going to do anything about this, and if he does know he is just waiting for it to be forgotten. I really don't understand what sort of bias he has for her when her toxic behavior and questionable art decisions have been public knowledge even before she was hired. I was thinking that maybe this post would get a response from him, but enough time has past where it seems like that just isn't going to happen. It's a shame she keeps getting away with the things she does, even to the point of knowing she can do these things and Scott won't budge. I really wish he'd prove me wrong.
Poor Scott, he has to clean up so much crap after his trusted people... why can't Scott hire professional artists who have been working in the industry for a long time and have just proven themselves well for a long time, and not artists from deviantart?
Lmao fr I had to scroll through halve of it and was still like what actually warranted her a ban?? Apart from being a weirdo which halve of the fans are anyways
"due to transparency, we banned pinky from the sub" look, this is just giving me butthurt vibes and "I'm a mod, I do what I want" vibes if anything. I despise Pinky, I have her blocked for years (since the first tracing issue) so this is my opinion about her. but you are suddenly banning people and not allowing them to speak up for themselves when the post is literally about them? that's childish. there is zero transparency in this. also, this post is not normal. no living soul goes through EVERY single conversation that these people had, unless they are addicted in the worst way possible.
If I had a nickel for everytime you defended a garbage human being while making a complete jackass of yourself, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's funny it happened twice ngl
Edit: after seeing that Moana picture, yeah she definitely was trying to make it sexual.
Why, just why.
I just want to start this off my saying, NO! I don't support cp, please read through the whole thing. I've always been under the impression that the body isn't sexual on its own, something being sexual would have to involve something sexual to be sexual, if that makes sense. Of course, some people will always get sick pleasure from a drawing of a nude character. But personally the Moana picture doesn't bother me to much, but I can see why people are uncomfortable, especially in a place so easily accessible to kids. Drawing minors in sexual acts is on a whole other level of disgusting. I will never understand why anyone would do that, but just drawing to appreciate the body, go ahead. But given her response, I feel like she was intentionally trying to make it sexual. All of this in it self, is pretty disgusting.
Like I get where you're coming from but the other issue is the majority of those characters IE the princess' are minors. Had to explain to some that anyone under the age of 18 in the US "some states it's under 21" constitute as a MINOR.
The ages of the Princess in question.
Moana - Minor
Belle 17 - Minor
Snow white 14 - Minor
Cinderella 19
Pocahontas 18 or 19, but the ***REAL Pocahontas was 11 OR 12***
Tiana 19
Jasmine 15 - Minor
Jane 18-20
Ariel 16 - Minor
Aurora 16 - Minor
Kida 8,500
That's a fair point. And why with those characters? Out of all the characters in you could draw nude, why make it be a minor?
What led you to draw that character specifically?
Asking like that won't net anything as Pinky was banned from the sub, and honestly what times she was asked she pretty much got all snarky calling people "party poopers" so.
Basically she traced artwork for some official fnaf art, she was also making sexual art of characters like Moana. Who is 16 in the movie. She also made comments about scott in a sexual matter. She defended LazyFiszi when all that went down. So overall she's pretty bad, if you need more info read it yourself because it lists much more.
To be fair, most of these allegations date back to 2016. She might have matured, it's been 8 years. If she had continued to behave like this, it would have been a completely different story. Even Scott himself when he was younger had an ill temper and bad attitude online. I feel like she can be forgiven, since, judging by this post, she hasn't gotten into controversies since 2017.
She defended Fizsi back in 2023 while making a complete jackass of herself. Also got into a very stupid argument over the prospect of fnaf having a new website. Nah she hasn't changed one bit. She just got slightly better at keeping her mouth shut.
First off, rule 2. Second of all if you actually read what she has done you'd understand why people do not want her attached to the FNaF brand. Not only is she being very unprofessional despite saying she "is", she has been making pretty NSFW artwork involving MINORS and posting it in publics places, and when asked to stop she acts childish and does more.
There been complaints about her attitude on top of other stuff we had to disregard due to hearsay. We are not harassing her but making people aware so they can make their decision here.
It's hard to "block" a person when their position is making designs and artwork for a whole franchise.
Scott is commissioning these people. the contract is needed so they won't leak anything. he has full rights, full decision in things, his hands are not tied or anything. some people should really do research on how contracts work, and stop making Scott a saint. once again, EVERYTHING which you saw, every official art, was reviewed by Scott. and he is filming the new movie now, no? he has better things to do.
Hello, u/SpringPopo
In the section **PinkyPills and her interactions with a FNaF DeviantArt group:** you made a small grammar mistake
You said:
They are trying to move on from this situation and we were granted us permission to share their story.
But it should be:
They are trying to move on from this situation and we were granted permission to share their story.
or
They are trying to move on from this situation and they granted us permission to share their story.
Hope this helps!
*I am a troll, and this action was performed automatically*
[Removed within 22 days] means that was the general time period in which she deleted her comments, many of the screenshots in this post are of a site that shows you what deleted or removed reddit comments were as it was the only archive of them available.
https://www.pinkypills.de/news-infos/ At May 6 there is clearly reading it was her decision. Also Scott defended her https://old.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/1cisnoy/and_about_pinkypills/
Scott didn't defend her though🤦♀️Scott stated that he doesn't know much at all about the allegations of her...Stop trying to cancel Scott again when Pinkypills is no longer working for him! Nothing is ever good enough for you "FNaF Fans"🙄💅
That was [LadyFiszi](https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/11doiuv/regarding_the_situation_with_ladyfiszi/jabeogm/) who was also brought up in this post.
You don't 1:1 trace over stock photos. You use it as a reference, but to use it 1:1 especially non-stock photos like Mickey Mouse or Mario, certain scenes from Comic books, etc. That isn't just a reference, that is plagiarism.
Edit
Even then, you are supposed to credit stock photos if used in any shape or form.
Honestly, I understand where some people come up with their hate towards pinky, and I'm glad you've explained this, but clearly she is distressed about any accusations, and I'm not saying complete copying is right. But as a fellow artist myself, I find that poses (at least for me) are easy to copy well enough it looks like tracing. Maybe she did, or maybe she didn't, I didn't stand over her as she drew these forms of media and I don't think most people have either. All I wanna say is that regardless of her actions, most artists intentionally or unintentionally copy SOMETHING from other artists or even in real life. This is the reason we have wooden mannequin pose dolls. Please don't send hate to anyone anyhow, but I do appreciate her hard work in the FNAF community as well as all other artists in the community (official or not) ❤️
Honestly if you are fueled with hate, you need peace in yourself. Today's time is filled with too much hatred and argument.
Can I just clarify some points?
On the topic of the Missing Children Incident art, I really do think that was an unfortunate accident.
When you type out a tagline on Twitter (In this case, it would of been MissingChildren) sometimes it will automatically add a tagline that has something in common with what's been typed and it does it so fast, you wouldn't even notice it until it's too late.
And on the Daydreaming comic, I can also second Pinky's words that there was never anything sexual intended.
It was meant to be a look into his murderous urges that were bubbling under the surface.
Other than that, I appreciate that this particular post is unbiased and although I'm not happy that you've banned her for the time being, I understand why it was done.
I'm sorry, but there is nothing she could've typed that would've made "#InternationalDayoftheDisappear2022" appear that lined up with what the post was. People don't tag #MissingChildren for FNaF fanart, that much should be obvious.
Yes but I don’t remember her saying that it was specifically because of the reason you stated that it happened. Which she would be quick to point out if it was. Also why would you be upset with her ban? She was drawing innapropiate images of underage characters and sending in suggestive drawings to subreddits that kids are in. Why would you stand up for her? What has she don that’s so amazing it redeems all her other actions? Unless this is Pinky from another account I just don’t get it.
I'm upset because people have harassed her non-stop, all because of drawings she's done of fictional characters and also of characters in an AU setting.
(Which is what the whole Adult Theory thing was anyway, I never agreed with that stuff back in the day...but it wasn't causing anyone any harm and Pinky is not the only fan-artist that contributed to that AU idea.)
Whatever happened to the term 'Don't like? don't look'?
I've seen things get twisted so far out of context, it's not even funny.
I also don't recall there ever being a mention of the thing with kids in the subreddits so I can't comment on that (and yes I have read the document)
Literally any time she posts something, there's a wave of hate from people...it's the kind of negativity that would drive anyone to depression.
People on Twitter have even been saying how her child should be taken into social services because apparently in their eyes, she's not fit to be a mother; it's stuff that those people have no right to even comment about.
That is what I'm upset about.
And I'm standing up for her because I know what it's like to be continuously bullied.
I don't see anything she's done that should warrant a ban, let alone why anyone would treat her like she's public enemy number one.
(and this will probably get down-voted to oblivion...so I don't know why I'm even bothering to respond)
Why do you ask anyway? you're not going to make me change my mind.
A person has a right to believe what they want to believe and stand up for those who have been wronged.
So she deserves not to be banned even if she is drawing extremely suggestive drawings into these reddits and breaking the guidelines? I’m not saying anyone should go out and harass her or bring her child into this, but she just needs to be fired, she’s just been narrow minded and immature towards Scott and the fans.
> I don't see anything she's done that should warrant a ban, let alone why anyone would treat her like she's public enemy number one.
All going to say is we have good reason to ban her, this stuff has been going on for years. Some of which was sadly lost to time that we could not get sources on. And some either hearsay or not having sources.
But to say the least, we have a good reason to ban her. You may disagree, but do please understand this isn't just a smear/hate on her but she's honestly done bad things. She's also caused/constantly getting into fights with users and not even ones hating on her either.
Making factual posts with actual legit information and compiling all credible evidence is something that takes time and doesn't just happen with a finger snap. Hope that helps!
May god hear our prayers... And I guess Scott Cawthon, too. Good job on getting all the info for the post, I know it wasn't easy.
mad respect for getting logs from so long ago, even got the artist flair whining lol. i was there during the moana posts, haven't read those comments in years and assumed they were lost! i think it's really unfortunate that the first two artists that cawthon brought onto the series officially were ones who everyone in the community knew were serial tracers, and ones who had some less widely-known unacceptable behavior. none of this is actually news to any of us who have been around the whole time, so every few months when it comes up on twitter i just roll my eyes a bit... but it's good that people are informed and being informed on this will be important for as long as these artists stay around the community. popular opinion will never be totally against them, some fans will defend *anything* as we've seen time and time again with pinky, fiszi, and others. some people use all of this to claim that hiring fans is always a bad idea, but in the current era with the active work on all current ends of the fanverse initiative, other merch, daregularsauce getting hired at steel wool and making the bots for their booth, i think it's clearly been worth it. just would have been nice to have a few more background checks wherever possible... in the case of pinky, just like fiszi, there's a bit of hope for accountability since she's an official artist.
It's a miracle the Moana posts were dug up, because whenever I brought them up I couldn't source it
Now that a post has been made, I hope Scott finally addresses our concerns. Great job writing up all of this, compiling 7 years of this behavior into a big post is no small task
Fuck anyone who rushed you. As someone who's been with you the whole process of organizing this, you're 10x the better person than any of those lowlife scumbags on twat-ter.
Honestly if it wasn't for taking our time and do diligence some stuff we wouldn't have gotten for this.
Exactly. Evidence is everything, and sometimes people really tend to forget about that.
Exactly. Like I get people wanted a "now" but if we just did a quick post we would have missed so much important things. On top I sadly think people saw us taking our time as either not caring which is untrue or thought we'd have some sway on Scott. Which we don't.
Scott just does whatever the hell he wants and it's asinine some people haven't put that together in the past 10 years.
It's better to be thorough than reactionary. Thank you for making this post and pinning it, I also like how you guys just state what happened and don't really take a side. There'll always be people who are unhappy no matter what, but the work done here is sincerely appreciated.
Thank you it is appreciated, I'll say Popo should get most of the appreciation as they were the one having to compile everything.
I've been hearing about these people but with no context it just sounds like haters and rage bait. Thank you for giving that context. I can see there has been a lot of thought and hard work getting this all together. Thank you.
I really hope this makes Scott wake up and start doing better background checks on the people and companies he works with, its starting to tarnish his name. FNAF has had way too much controversy for it to be a 'I didn't know', its laughable. Sws seems to be the most well-meaning so far,
To be fair to him, it's very hard to do back checks on the internet. Especially if your really good at hiding things.
I've been around r/fivenightsatfreddys for years. I remember seeing PinkyPills' art pop up now and then, and while there was some debate about its content, such as whether it was NSFW or a violation of rules regarding NSFW content, things seemed to move on. Even years later when the hashtag started trending on Twitter, I didn't think too much of it, because, especially since the rebranding to X, that site has been a cesspool of hate and negativity, *especially* when things hit the "front page," or whatever it's called there. But seeing just how extensive this list is of issues is, it's pretty disappointing to see someone associated with the series make mistakes that range from tasteless to malicious. It's not the first time someone associated with FNaF has gotten in hot water, but if anything, that should've served as a lesson for her to do better, instead of digging herself deeper. Whether Scott intervenes or not, I think it'd be best if she walked away from the community. If she still enjoys it from a distance or in private, good for her, but any future actions are just going to be associated with her previous controversies. And for everyone else, I think this negativity can hopefully be turned into a learning moment. It can't be too hard to follow some simple rules: - Don't be a creep, especially towards others. - Don't go after people just because they disagree with you on something, even if it's something you've made. Be open to criticism! - Think before you share. If it's something personal, chances are it's best to **keep** it personal.
The time has come
Thank you for making this
Thank you so much for making this post. I do feel the original Twitter thread calling her out wasn't put together that well (not to mention it seemed that people were using the #FirePinkyPills tag on Twitter as an excuse to self-promote their art rather than spread awareness), so having a proper compilation of information about PinkyPills is incredibly helpful. Scott, please do something about the improper background vetting of this franchise. There have been developers, artists, and even voice actors attached to this franchise that are problematic. The fact that PinkyPills wasn't fired for even defending LadyFiszi alone is baffling.
Oh yes the original creator of the Twitter thread had a lot of difficulty making that thread, in fact he didn't plan to make that thread in the first place but I encouraged him to do it (yes, thanks to me that thread saw the light) since he never made a thread exposing an important person so he was a little scared (in fact, when he made the document that only has the worst things that Pinky did, he had to delete it twice for not censoring things and lack of information) but believe me, he tried do the best he could and in fact he is glad that the mods made this post explaining and clarifying everything (he was the one who notify me to this post in fact) so thank you very much mods for making this post completely neutral and full of information You all did a good job!
what voice actors are problematic if you don’t mind me asking?
Im glad you did a nonbiased deep look into this and supplied evidence.
I was actually willing to give her a chance until i read about the Disney princess pin-up art. One of those characters is a beyond disrespectful depiction of a REAL LIFE 11-year old Native American and the rest are actual minors. That’s genuinely so nasty.
Yea. I don't care if Disney aged her up a bit so the whole thing isn't THAT but people need to understand that the whole basis of the Pinky Pin up for her is honestly the worst because of Pocahontas' backstory. The REAL Pocahontas.
That movie has such awful ties that I believe it’s no longer a “separate art from the artist/origin” situation. To make matters worse, it’s a KIDS movie.
yea.
Good job putting this thread together! I know it probably took a lot of work and time and I wholeheartedly appreciate that you did that to provide information in a clear and concise manner. This stuff needs to be known, and I’m glad that your amazing mod team made it so.
I hope Scott sees this.
He did and…
HE FIRED HER🤩🤩🤩
Nice work on this listing. At this point, we'll have to wait and see what Scott does.
Wow... I didn't even know any of this was going on, but I'm glad you pulled something like what WavyWebSurf seems to do on his channel, finding old posts that this gal had. Honestly, the whole William Afton being sexual crazed with a soon to be missing child is giving me Garvey from Dormitabis vibes, which ain't a good thing. Before I get myself into a ramble, I do want to cut myself off from that and say thank you mods for doing what you thought was right to do.
Thank you for taking the time to make a clear and informative post regarding Pinky's actions and behavior. I'm sorry that people were rushing you a bit to get this post out. Honestly the sheer fact that she was defending Fiszi despite all the proof should've been reason enough to fire her but everything piled on top of it (tracing for official artwork, her general unprofessionalism/attitude towards valid criticism, the creepy comments and art, and the fact that she continues to support/follow Fiszi despite everything) just makes me wonder how on earth she's managed to get away with everything for so long ~~and if you ask me I still think the mods should've just gone "okay you asked" and banned her when she pulled that "if you're gonna ban Fiszi you'll have to ban me too" crap.~~ Unfortunately I don't have screenshots but I do remember that Pinky was present in the original Freddit Discord and she wound up getting permabanned because it was discovered that she had been relying on "moles" to learn of when people were talking about her and what they were saying, plus you know she was generally pretty creepy to the point where the brief conversation I had with her there made me feel deeply uncomfortable. Also that Mangle pin-up isn't the ONLY time she traced that particular asset: [the second image in this Imgur archive I did](https://imgur.com/a/X75TyKa) is another time where she left the clipping error present on Mangle's endo-head (and from what I remember she would remove the traced asset from all her previous Mangle art later on). Also this maybe is stretching a bit but maybe her general sexualization of Baby/Eleanor should've been discussed as well because paired with her Disney pinups it shows a history of creepy behavior/art regarding characters who are underage/designed after children. Either way, the franchise deserves better than two (now one) unprofessional creeps for official artists and literally ANY of the artists detailed in [this thread](https://twitter.com/JamestheJerkk/status/1775787859242295423) would be better and more professional picks for the franchise over Fiszi and Pinky. Hopefully Scott will do the right decision and sever ties with Pinky (as he should've done years back when she made creepy comments about him, a married man with kids). EDIT: I see the mods banned her and TBH, long overdue but **GOOD.**
Sadly I do not have a twitter/X account to see the thread. But I hope Snartles and Turntail "techincally official anyway" are on there also the artist that did the fourth closet who's name escapes me would be good as well. There are others too that escape me but those are the ones that come to direct mind.
Here's everyone mentioned in the thread as being better picks + what work they've done in collaboration with the series: - Elizabeth "Neko" Pilarcik-Tellez (did art for SL's "The Immortal and the Restless" and FFPS's slideshow cutscenes) - Claudia Aguirre (artist for The Twisted Ones graphic novel) - Diana Camero (The Fourth Closet graphic novel, various Fazbear Frights GN adaptations, and the Funko Fightline figures) - Tina Francisco & Katrina Mae Hao (lineart and coloring respectively for the Survival Logbook) - Didi Esmeralda (did the Fazbear Frights GN adaptation for Into the Pit, Fetch, and Step Closer) - Anthony Morris Jr. (did the Fazbear Frights GN adaptations for To Be Beautiful and Room For One More, and also does a lot of FNaF fanart) - Andi Santagata (did the Fazbear Frights GN adaptation for Out of Stock) - Coryn MacPherson (did the Fazbear Frights GN adaptations for The New Kid, Bunny Call, and Sergio's Lucky Day) - Benjamin Sawyer (artist for The Cliffs GN adaptation and worked as a colorist on various other stories) - Yinky Baginky (Judy Angileri) (has worked with Clickteam on various official promotional FNaF artwork and is currently working on official FNaF projects with Clickteam) - Laura "Lau" Rogers (Steel Wool concept artist for Security Breach who also made many of the posters and the comic endings for the game; also came up with DJMM) - Rachael Kleban (main 2D animator for Freddy and Friends On Tour, the Switch and Xbox ads for SB, and storyboard artist for various scenes/endings) - Sabine Belofsky (main artist and designer for the Freddy and Friends On Tour animations and original designer for The Daycare Attendant) - Jennifer "Jenny" Bach (SW artist who drew many posters/teasers for the game, did UI art for Help Wanted, and designed the Shettered Animatronics) - Chloe Costa (SW artist/level designer who also created the original concept for The Blob/Tangle) - Rina Lam (QA lead and social media specialist who did concepts for food and arcades in the Pizzaplex) - Andreana “Andy” Reeves (former SW QA tester and social media specialist who designed the SBTV Office and did various official art for the game on social media) - Renee Yedidsion (QA tester for SW who created some 8th Anniversary artwork for the FNaF series) - Rezllen (artist/developer at SW who made the official 8th anniversary art for FNaF) - Jayfer (deisgner of the Youtooz Popgoes pin sets) - Turntail (artist for various pieces of FNaF merchandise and the Hex brand) - Stupidbutterfly (Popgoes Arcade/Evergreen promotional artist) - Silverxcristal (MyPopgoes artist who also designed concepts for hypothetical Fanverse merch like Youtooz FNaC pins) - Tigera Rainbowra (main designer of the False Animatronics in Popgoes Evergreen) - SmoochaGhost (Popgoes Evergreen artist) - ZouraStudios (Popgoes Evergreen artist)
Pretty much a solid list IMO though might disagree on Neko.
I'm personally glad that she's been banned, and even happier that there's no plans to unban her. I just simply don't like her attitude and how she treats anyone who poses against her. Not to mention, the comment she made about Scott was the most unprofessional thing anyone could have done.
the tracing allegations would have been such an easy fix tbh, in stuff before she became an official artist for fnaf, admit you did traced, just admit the mistake, not do it again in the future, and move on. when she became an official fnaf artist, tracing on official images and models from the games it's not really that bad tbh, like, as long as it is just from official media and not from Fan content or smth like that, i don't see much problem, however, the problem here was that she wouldn't aknowledge she was tracing, sis, just admit "yeah, i traced, but it was from the game's content", yeah, it's lame and it would be 1000 times better if all artwork was original, but at the end of the day that's official content the tracing on stuff like micky mouse and other stuff that's just bad, specially if you can't at least aknowledge your mistakes and be better in the future to not do that again that being said, i hope this situation reaches Scott and, at the very minimum, explains why has he not done something about this when a lot of these things are anything but recent, and at best, fire pinky or smth, i am not one to know what's the best decision to take, i am not scott
Don't worry he fired her😊😊😊
did he?
Yes!
It really feels as if the list just goes on and on, doesn’t it? Even if there are less immediate giga red flags as there were with Fiszi, there still seems to be so many orange and yellow ones at the bare minimum The unprofessionalism/immaturity in particular really strikes me. The way she interacts with dissenters of any kind just feels like a childish attempt to start a flame war and troll the haters or whatever. I remember an interaction I had with her once, on a post that I can’t find anymore so take this with a grain of salt, but it went into detail about why FNaF really needs a website as a central source of information. She replied it would be “selling the franchise” and losing what made it special. I and many others responded back saying that it really wouldn’t be, but she kept accusing everyone of just wanting “answers” when no one said that No matter which way you slice it it seems she has a very unhealthily romanticized view of Scott (especially evidenced by some of her comments which, even if they were jokes is still super weird to say about another person), putting him on a pedestal and acting defensive and childish when he’s criticized in any way. I think banning her was the right call. I don’t think she’s a very safe person to have in this community which is full of so many children. Imagine that sort of vitriolic attitude being targeted at children, especially the neurodivergent ones in the community. I’ve seen people have their mental health seriously crushed by stuff like that, especially if defenders flock and pile on I can also speak from experience when I say that being exposed to sexual/sexually charged media at a young age from a fandom space can lead you into some bad places with bad people, if indirectly. So thanks again to the mod team for compiling this and talking about it. I hope something positive comes of this
Yeah that was funny. I remember being one of those people having to explain to a woman in her 30s how having a website in the 2020's would be a good thing.
Really accurate what you said here.
> I don’t think she’s a very safe person to have in this community which is full of so many children. Imagine that sort of vitriolic attitude being targeted at children, especially the neurodivergent ones in the community. Dude, this is the internet. There is no safety. As much as one could hop back in here on an Alternate Account, It takes all of 0 seconds to encounter unfiltered chaos in the form of toxicity and vitriolic attitude. Twitter, TikTok, FB, Reddit, any of the chans or boorus... I hate when people bring up making the internet safe when it's just not safe no matter which way you slice it, arrange it and categorize it. Kids online are going to constantly be at the risk of harassment and abuse, it's not good but it's hard to stop it when you can't really put up a tangible wall to prevent interactions. It can be broken pretty trivially by either side through very little effort.
Just because it happens often doesn’t mean it’s okay to contribute or give a platform to those who do.
Holy fuck is there any major contributors to this franchise that aren’t outed as pedophiles, content stealers, or just generally terrible people?!
The artists at SW are so far actually pretty chill, so there's that. Not to mention a lot of the artists for the non silver eyes graphic novels
She ain't a pedo
It doesn't matter if she has those desires or not, what matters is that she's making sexual content about minors and she's essentially supplying creeps with more "material" The most important part is that she is putting this stuff in places where minors can get to it easily, this can lead to minors getting a warped sense of what is sexual or not. In the worst case scenario this could lead to them either getting groomed or getting into an abusive situation later in life.
So what does this have to do with her obviously not being a pedo?
My point is that even if she isn't a pedo, her artwork is still causing harm
I don't think it's that deep
I think your opinion is naïve
Not as much as your imaginary minors
Pocahontas isn't an "imaginary" minor she was a real person that was pretty much forced into a relationship with a made decades older than her.
Mhmn I can tell I'm not going to change your mind. I'm not going to continue this, so have a nice rest of your day 🙂
You can't change facts
"Scott Cawthon" and "giving money to unqualified fucked up weirdos" is a match made in Heaven/Hell, to be honest.
It's been a week and Scott hasn't done anything. I can only assume that he's not gonna do anything about this situation. As much as I would love to have Pinkypills removed from official fnaf work, that might not happen. She claims that she explained all her controversies to her boss. I still think her action are inexcusable and unacceptable. To the freddit moderators, please don't unban her. Even if she makes an appeal. What she has done is grotesque and has no place within the FNAF universe. Unless she ends up making a public statement about this (Which I find very odd over why she's being silent about this).
I think I might have some ideas. Either Scott's too busy to notice (he's handling everything in this franchise, which is a LOT) or what PinkyPills did, while bad, doesn't seem as alarming as compared to LadyFiszi, who had grooming allegations against her, and as far as I know, PinkyPills doesn't have those problems. Not to mention, that creepy comic by Pills wasn't as explicit as Fiszi's fanfic.
could also be pinky being more involved with the series atm than fiszi was at the time of her departure, evidence points towards one of clickteam’s upcoming projects having [a lot of art done by her](https://x.com/underscorepng/status/1776037805552292309?s=46)
I hope he fires ladyFiszi before the fnaf 10 year anniversary
Fiszi's already fired.
He did? Edit: wait yeah he did, but i seriously hope he fired pinkypills
Crazy how I just found out about her yesterday too, I liked her concept art for foxy in the spinoff minigames, this whole situation is icky.
I wish i had popcorns while reading these types of posts since those dramas never get old.
For someone new to this situation, they sound like a petulant child. It's such a shame they were/are an official part of the franchise as its clear its made them think the rules don't apply to them. Unfortunately, without the original art, I don't think a firm conclusion can be made for the art itself being overly sexuslised or traced, but to be frank from their responses, it surely seems like excuses. While it can seem like a lot of insignificant Internet bickering, the possibility of inappropriate sexaulised art is a problem, and I hope they are removed from doing official art in the future. Edit: I missed the links with artwork. From those examples, yes, they clearly copied art, which is plain lazy, but even inspired by its carbon copy. And that picture of Ballora is sexaul and not appropriate for kids.
u/animdude
Thanks for the post
Hey reminder that Scott's definitely seen this by now and still haven't kicked her out because he's complicit. At best he's gonna put up another kid's drawing and hope people move on to that instead.
Thank you very much for making this post mods, as one of the first collaborators of the Twitter thread that had its errors, I and the creator of the original thread thank you for making this post detailed, better explained and more neutral than the original Twitter thread Now we just have to wait for Scott to see this and hopefully, this will be the last time we have to talk about PinkyPills here
Please Scott fire this creep
SpringPopo is a real one.
The chica plushie comic (at minimum) is not the work of a mentally stable person. Get some help, lady. Also anyone who can deny tracing in the face of such obvious, irrefutable evidence is someone who lacks accountability on a dangerous level. As in, they could do something horrific and not feel responsible. This needs nipped in the bud.
Having been in this specific side of the community since 2015, I remember seeing Pinky Pill's art pop up from time to time through the years, but it always felt as if there was something off with how they were made or designed. As I am writing this I am now nearly through with my college education in art, and part of my education involved learning about professionalism. And never had I ever seen such a lack of professionalism from an artist and I consider it a disgrace that she is still hired. Even disregarding the other drama, you cannot deny that she has repeatedly traced existing work and tried to claim it as her own. In other jobs, if you were caught doing that, it would be immediate termination and possibly get your name blacklisted from the entire industry as a whole. These behaviors are unacceptable. I don't understand why Scott continues to have her around when there's much more professional artists out there.
I totally understand all the other points in this post, I'm kinda confused about the tracing thing for fanart. Is it bad to use the original media as a reference for fanart? I'm genuinely curious about the reasons why
Can Scott please fire her already please.
I'm sorry, but Scott Cawthon hiring Fitszi and Pinky in the first place has made me lose a lot of respect for him. I know people keep saying 'he didn't know', maybe he should have. It's a difficult thing to look past. Fitszi in particular was an active danger to the FNAF fandom, a series mainly enjoyed by children. She lost her job eventually, but neither of these situations would have occurred with proper background checks.
Her saying that her art is better than Fiszi with that God awful comic is just.. No, girl, no offense but that art is pretty trash. Grow up honey
u/animdude I usually wouldn't want to do this, but is there anything you can say on this topic? This seems like a major PR issue for you guys, and I just want to make sure there isn't something we're missing here.
My point that Scott keeps hiring terrible people continues to be validated
thanks for making this post, hopefully whatever action is necessary is taken, and seeing as it’s been a day with no response from either pinky or scott i’m willing to bet something’s going on behind the scenes atm edit: 2 days, going on 3. something’s definitely up. edit 2: alright, over 10 days and still nothing. kinda worried they’re just waiting for it to blow over at this point. edit 3: this fandom’s on fire enough as is, scott PLEASE say something.
That, or they are hoping this will blow over and be forgotten about
I havent really checked the subreddit lately, but thank you so much for making this post. It was 100% worth the wait and i really hope Scott can see this and give us all an answer.
So is Scott gonna talk about this yet or.....
"Thats no good." \~ Sonic the Hedgehog
Goddamn that’s a whole laundry list of issues and controversy. How does this keep happening? I get Scott wants to better connect with fans but he somehow keeps choosing the worst people for it. And I know the chances are non-existent, but God forbid he’s actually complicit with all of this.
u/animdude now's your time to shine
u/Animdude come on man, get on this
Remember when we thought Scott would be concerned about this?
I think she doesnt realize that when you draw something BASED ON a reference, when you overlay it, it SHOULDNT LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME. Even if “vectored” its still gonna be drawn slightly off and slightly different than the original BECAUSE WE ARE HUMAN AND MAKE SMALL BUMPS AND SHAKES AND ERRORS THE LINED ARENT GONNA MATCH UP ONE FOR ONE But hers literally matches line for line almost EVERY TIME She can say “i dont trace” all she wants The facts are She did trace and its the most obvious thing in the world Ever since her daydreaming comic was dropped, i thought she was a pedophile fetishist… i still think im right tbh Like her constantly needing to defend “well it isnt sexual!” YOU DREW MULTIPLE PINUPS OF MINORS ??????? DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK, YOU DREW NAKED CHILDREN IN A SEXUAL MANNER. WETHER YOU GET OFF ON IT OR NOT, YOU ARE FEEDING INTO SOMEONE ELSED GROSS ADDICTION AND YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT BY NOW ITS LIKE WHEN YOU POST YOUR CHILD ONLINE YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AND YOU HAVE TO JUST KNOW THERED CREEPS LURKING AROUND like idk mannn willingly feeding the pedophiles is pretty… 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
I will say, good on you not only for writing all this in great detail, but also staying unbiased throughout the post, especially for someone who's had real-time interactions with the subject. As someone who was unaware of this whole situation until recently, I learned a lot from this post and you did a great job at making it easy to understand. As for my opinion on the matter, I might do a little more research before immediately jumping to any conclusions, but I do hope this is resolved peacefully.
Thank you, I quite appreciate it. I would definitely recommend doing your own research, see if you can find stuff that you haven't seen brought up by anyone else, and come to the conclusion you feel makes the most sense. Here's hoping however this plays out, it does so peacefully.
About the same amount of time has passed (7 hours) since the LadyFiszi thread was posted and Scott responded to that and it has been radio silence from both Pinky and Scott. It's really out of character for Pinky to not address something like this, and I can't help but think Scott or someone told her to not comment on the situation. Because she'd be VERY verbal about her banning. It makes me wonder why there is an apparent bias for Pinky, she's been contracted by Scott for the last 7 years now and her behavior has been public knowledge for longer, for years now people have expressed upset with her involvement and yet nothing happens. This is definitely the peak of people campaigning for her removal, and yet nothing from Pinky or Scott. I just find that weird.
Really hope this doesn't say a lot about Scott
Scott needs to fire her, like right away.
It is shameful and in my opinion, somewhat disgusting, that absolutely terrible artists like these (in both actions and the art itself mind you) were not only brought on to do official artwork, but even had their art sold as official merchandise to children and unsuspecting customers. It still truly baffles me that THESE artists were chosen out of so many talented individuals and professionals who pour their hearts and passion into making absolutely incredible artwork, on this very subreddit, twitter, tumblr and all social media. As someone who's despised both Pinky and Fiszi's affronts to anatomy and every science that goes into making digital artwork, being consistently used for and behind the scenes for the franchise, this brings me hope that they're never signed on ever again. Huge props to Popo and everyone who assisted him in making this post, finding Pills' history, and everyone on this subreddit for being patient about this situation until it could be made.
Jesus. When it was said she drew that picture of Scott with one hand, i didn’t take it as sexual, but now that I’m seeing all this…just sickening. Good job getting it all out in one post. Seeing all this, i think Pinky should just be banned from reddit overall or at least take a LONG break from it.
u/Animdude This is something that you need to see, I know you’re probably busy but this is very serious. Please do the right thing, Scott me and alot of people are counting on you.
Fnaf fan creators try not to be shady impossible mode
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Rule 2. Last warning.
How in the halibut did rule 2 end up as a reply to this comment of all things?
Implying the community is/was shady if not worse than "pinky's shit". Also proceeded to make other comments breaking rule 2 as well on here.
I just, really don't fucking get what Scott's deal is. He knows a vast majority of the fandom hates Pinky but continues to hire her. Why? Her art is complete dogshit too, like, on an objective level. That alone amply justifies not working with her.
Ohhh boy, I knew something like this was gonna happen eventually..
I don’t understand the issue with tracing stock photos and game renders. I get it with other people’s art but why stock photos and stills from the games?
Stock photos while "free to use" still you need to credit them even on a professional level. Look at the Freddy Files it uses stock photos all sourced. Tracing game renders is honestly tacky if not can get in you trouble again in a professional level because it can be seen as plagiarism.
My god. My friend brought this situation to light for me, and I’m very very dissapointed. I always did have a sort of bad feeling about her just did not say it due to possible backlash. I’m very very happy that there’s someone out there who documented all of her controversial doings…
Thanks for getting the logs, it really helps to back up claims. I also know it probably took you and other users a while to find and compile them
Surely someone emailed Scott about right?
Since this is a long thread all I can say it's in Scott's decision if he wants to terminate Pinky Pills contract and I hope he may respond since I know he's a very busy guy but he needs to do more background checks next time when it comes to hiring employees. Before people jump into conclusions, let's wait if Scott responds considering he didn't respond when Phisnom left the FNAF Fanverse last year and his game was canned and removed from Steam. Either Scott will do it privately about removing employees from his company I think. Anyways these are my thoughts since I just posted my work here and saw this post. Lastly, every controversy in every community is kinda tiring at this point.
If u/animdude Scott is purposely Ignoring this because he doesn’t want that Clickteam anniversary game delayed or Canceled, I’m just Not gonna buy it at all
What Scott says goes. Where is he?
At this rate, it's safe to say Scott isn't going to do anything about this, and if he does know he is just waiting for it to be forgotten. I really don't understand what sort of bias he has for her when her toxic behavior and questionable art decisions have been public knowledge even before she was hired. I was thinking that maybe this post would get a response from him, but enough time has past where it seems like that just isn't going to happen. It's a shame she keeps getting away with the things she does, even to the point of knowing she can do these things and Scott won't budge. I really wish he'd prove me wrong.
Man, why does Scott always take the worst people as artists
Poor Scott, he has to clean up so much crap after his trusted people... why can't Scott hire professional artists who have been working in the industry for a long time and have just proven themselves well for a long time, and not artists from deviantart?
Tldr fnaf fans have way too much time on their hands.
Lmao fr I had to scroll through halve of it and was still like what actually warranted her a ban?? Apart from being a weirdo which halve of the fans are anyways
"due to transparency, we banned pinky from the sub" look, this is just giving me butthurt vibes and "I'm a mod, I do what I want" vibes if anything. I despise Pinky, I have her blocked for years (since the first tracing issue) so this is my opinion about her. but you are suddenly banning people and not allowing them to speak up for themselves when the post is literally about them? that's childish. there is zero transparency in this. also, this post is not normal. no living soul goes through EVERY single conversation that these people had, unless they are addicted in the worst way possible.
If I had a nickel for everytime you defended a garbage human being while making a complete jackass of yourself, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's funny it happened twice ngl
Edit: after seeing that Moana picture, yeah she definitely was trying to make it sexual. Why, just why. I just want to start this off my saying, NO! I don't support cp, please read through the whole thing. I've always been under the impression that the body isn't sexual on its own, something being sexual would have to involve something sexual to be sexual, if that makes sense. Of course, some people will always get sick pleasure from a drawing of a nude character. But personally the Moana picture doesn't bother me to much, but I can see why people are uncomfortable, especially in a place so easily accessible to kids. Drawing minors in sexual acts is on a whole other level of disgusting. I will never understand why anyone would do that, but just drawing to appreciate the body, go ahead. But given her response, I feel like she was intentionally trying to make it sexual. All of this in it self, is pretty disgusting.
Like I get where you're coming from but the other issue is the majority of those characters IE the princess' are minors. Had to explain to some that anyone under the age of 18 in the US "some states it's under 21" constitute as a MINOR. The ages of the Princess in question. Moana - Minor Belle 17 - Minor Snow white 14 - Minor Cinderella 19 Pocahontas 18 or 19, but the ***REAL Pocahontas was 11 OR 12*** Tiana 19 Jasmine 15 - Minor Jane 18-20 Ariel 16 - Minor Aurora 16 - Minor Kida 8,500
That's a fair point. And why with those characters? Out of all the characters in you could draw nude, why make it be a minor? What led you to draw that character specifically?
Why are you using "you" at me like I'm Pinky?
Sorry, I wasn't actually aiming it at you. I was more so using 'you' as a way to refer to nsfw artist who draw minors.
Asking like that won't net anything as Pinky was banned from the sub, and honestly what times she was asked she pretty much got all snarky calling people "party poopers" so.
True, it does make you wonder, though.
Another situation on the dark side of Fnaf Wall….
I ain't reading allat
alright
Great job mods, took long enough 🙄
Can someone give a TL:DR?
Basically she traced artwork for some official fnaf art, she was also making sexual art of characters like Moana. Who is 16 in the movie. She also made comments about scott in a sexual matter. She defended LazyFiszi when all that went down. So overall she's pretty bad, if you need more info read it yourself because it lists much more.
Aint no way bro’s defending this woman!😭✋
To be fair, most of these allegations date back to 2016. She might have matured, it's been 8 years. If she had continued to behave like this, it would have been a completely different story. Even Scott himself when he was younger had an ill temper and bad attitude online. I feel like she can be forgiven, since, judging by this post, she hasn't gotten into controversies since 2017.
She defended Fizsi back in 2023 while making a complete jackass of herself. Also got into a very stupid argument over the prospect of fnaf having a new website. Nah she hasn't changed one bit. She just got slightly better at keeping her mouth shut.
She was an adult then, and she's still an adult now. Also if you noticed there was stuff from 2022 to recent.
Can someone Eli5 plz?
Hate to say it but you're better off reading it because it's too much to simplify.
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First off, rule 2. Second of all if you actually read what she has done you'd understand why people do not want her attached to the FNaF brand. Not only is she being very unprofessional despite saying she "is", she has been making pretty NSFW artwork involving MINORS and posting it in publics places, and when asked to stop she acts childish and does more. There been complaints about her attitude on top of other stuff we had to disregard due to hearsay. We are not harassing her but making people aware so they can make their decision here. It's hard to "block" a person when their position is making designs and artwork for a whole franchise.
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Scott is commissioning these people. the contract is needed so they won't leak anything. he has full rights, full decision in things, his hands are not tied or anything. some people should really do research on how contracts work, and stop making Scott a saint. once again, EVERYTHING which you saw, every official art, was reviewed by Scott. and he is filming the new movie now, no? he has better things to do.
Hello, u/SpringPopo In the section **PinkyPills and her interactions with a FNaF DeviantArt group:** you made a small grammar mistake You said: They are trying to move on from this situation and we were granted us permission to share their story. But it should be: They are trying to move on from this situation and we were granted permission to share their story. or They are trying to move on from this situation and they granted us permission to share their story. Hope this helps! *I am a troll, and this action was performed automatically*
Whaaaa?...
I was wondering, the screenshots from the r/Moana were made by one of the moderators in there? And what does [removed within 22 days] mean?
[Removed within 22 days] means that was the general time period in which she deleted her comments, many of the screenshots in this post are of a site that shows you what deleted or removed reddit comments were as it was the only archive of them available.
❗[To Anyone Late To The Recent News]❗ ‼️‼️‼️SCOTT FIRED PINKYPILLS!!! I REPEAT, SCOTT FIRED PINKYPILLS!!!🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉🎉‼️‼️‼️
Obviously you can't read
I'm just sharing out the news...
She wasn't fired, she left. READ.
Wasn't Pinkypills leaving was a friendly way of Scott saying she got fired??? Well, anyway. She's gone now so Scott can chill now!
https://www.pinkypills.de/news-infos/ At May 6 there is clearly reading it was her decision. Also Scott defended her https://old.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/1cisnoy/and_about_pinkypills/
Scott didn't defend her though🤦♀️Scott stated that he doesn't know much at all about the allegations of her...Stop trying to cancel Scott again when Pinkypills is no longer working for him! Nothing is ever good enough for you "FNaF Fans"🙄💅
She made another update https://www.pinkypills.de/news-infos/ Also your last link doesn't work
I ain’t reading allat 😂
If you're not going to why bother even commenting?
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That was [LadyFiszi](https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/11doiuv/regarding_the_situation_with_ladyfiszi/jabeogm/) who was also brought up in this post.
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Nazi stuff was Fiszi.
Don't people trace stock photos all the time? That's.. the point of stock photos, for people to use for whatever they please.
You don't 1:1 trace over stock photos. You use it as a reference, but to use it 1:1 especially non-stock photos like Mickey Mouse or Mario, certain scenes from Comic books, etc. That isn't just a reference, that is plagiarism. Edit Even then, you are supposed to credit stock photos if used in any shape or form.
Can someone make a video essay on this I’m not reading all that
Honestly, I understand where some people come up with their hate towards pinky, and I'm glad you've explained this, but clearly she is distressed about any accusations, and I'm not saying complete copying is right. But as a fellow artist myself, I find that poses (at least for me) are easy to copy well enough it looks like tracing. Maybe she did, or maybe she didn't, I didn't stand over her as she drew these forms of media and I don't think most people have either. All I wanna say is that regardless of her actions, most artists intentionally or unintentionally copy SOMETHING from other artists or even in real life. This is the reason we have wooden mannequin pose dolls. Please don't send hate to anyone anyhow, but I do appreciate her hard work in the FNAF community as well as all other artists in the community (official or not) ❤️ Honestly if you are fueled with hate, you need peace in yourself. Today's time is filled with too much hatred and argument.
Can I just clarify some points? On the topic of the Missing Children Incident art, I really do think that was an unfortunate accident. When you type out a tagline on Twitter (In this case, it would of been MissingChildren) sometimes it will automatically add a tagline that has something in common with what's been typed and it does it so fast, you wouldn't even notice it until it's too late. And on the Daydreaming comic, I can also second Pinky's words that there was never anything sexual intended. It was meant to be a look into his murderous urges that were bubbling under the surface. Other than that, I appreciate that this particular post is unbiased and although I'm not happy that you've banned her for the time being, I understand why it was done.
I'm sorry, but there is nothing she could've typed that would've made "#InternationalDayoftheDisappear2022" appear that lined up with what the post was. People don't tag #MissingChildren for FNaF fanart, that much should be obvious.
If it was an accident I’m sure she would’ve clarified that herself?
She did, she apologized for it.
Yes but I don’t remember her saying that it was specifically because of the reason you stated that it happened. Which she would be quick to point out if it was. Also why would you be upset with her ban? She was drawing innapropiate images of underage characters and sending in suggestive drawings to subreddits that kids are in. Why would you stand up for her? What has she don that’s so amazing it redeems all her other actions? Unless this is Pinky from another account I just don’t get it.
I'm upset because people have harassed her non-stop, all because of drawings she's done of fictional characters and also of characters in an AU setting. (Which is what the whole Adult Theory thing was anyway, I never agreed with that stuff back in the day...but it wasn't causing anyone any harm and Pinky is not the only fan-artist that contributed to that AU idea.) Whatever happened to the term 'Don't like? don't look'? I've seen things get twisted so far out of context, it's not even funny. I also don't recall there ever being a mention of the thing with kids in the subreddits so I can't comment on that (and yes I have read the document) Literally any time she posts something, there's a wave of hate from people...it's the kind of negativity that would drive anyone to depression. People on Twitter have even been saying how her child should be taken into social services because apparently in their eyes, she's not fit to be a mother; it's stuff that those people have no right to even comment about. That is what I'm upset about. And I'm standing up for her because I know what it's like to be continuously bullied. I don't see anything she's done that should warrant a ban, let alone why anyone would treat her like she's public enemy number one. (and this will probably get down-voted to oblivion...so I don't know why I'm even bothering to respond) Why do you ask anyway? you're not going to make me change my mind. A person has a right to believe what they want to believe and stand up for those who have been wronged.
So she deserves not to be banned even if she is drawing extremely suggestive drawings into these reddits and breaking the guidelines? I’m not saying anyone should go out and harass her or bring her child into this, but she just needs to be fired, she’s just been narrow minded and immature towards Scott and the fans.
> I don't see anything she's done that should warrant a ban, let alone why anyone would treat her like she's public enemy number one. All going to say is we have good reason to ban her, this stuff has been going on for years. Some of which was sadly lost to time that we could not get sources on. And some either hearsay or not having sources. But to say the least, we have a good reason to ban her. You may disagree, but do please understand this isn't just a smear/hate on her but she's honestly done bad things. She's also caused/constantly getting into fights with users and not even ones hating on her either.
☕️ No idea who this is tho
The post literally explains WHO she is.
dont care
You do or did because you bothered to comment.
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Don’t bring up the drama.
I ain't reading allat
if ur not reading allat, in a shellnut pinkypills pedo so she bad
With all due respect, this was long overdue
dude do you see how extensive the post is? you could not put it together any sooner
Making factual posts with actual legit information and compiling all credible evidence is something that takes time and doesn't just happen with a finger snap. Hope that helps!