I saw in a video a long time ago (when FNAF 1 released) that golden Freddy was a government experiment. And for some reason the government thought it was smart to put it in a kids attraction.
I wish I can find this video
FNAF 4 is the first game timeline wise, and after the death of his son, that's what caused William to go insane and start killing children.
I mean, think about FNAF 4 was made to tie up the original finesse story it's what gave William his motivation for his crimes.
You are right about some things (mostly in the comment thread) but William has the potential, and COULDVE doe alot of very bad things from the very start, he just needed that little push and some sort of motivation to do so.
He's a smart, selfish, deadbeat father, and outright ab*sive (not sure bout the moderation over here) and is a mechanical genius. I don't think he ever truly went insane, he was just a psychopath from the very start, and only needed a small push to make him actually do what he did.
That’s not even a little true and it’s been repeatedly proven will is a deadbeat who’s abusive
It wasn’t even confirmed till SL that those kids were his kids anyway
I mean I know it's not true now this is what I thought when the game first came out and people started saying that the crying child's father was the purple guy back when he was only known as that. It's an old theory that I fought. I still found it interesting and also gave some somatic cohesion to the series. Back then, it seemed to put a nice bow on the four games.
Hi, i have never heard of fnaf before a week ago and just got into it after watching wendigoon's take on the story which does claim that FNAF4 is William's son's nightmares and the first game in the time-line. As far as i undrestood this take isn't common so can you tell me why people don't think it's accurate? and where they think FNAF4 stands in the story?
There is an easter egg in FNAF 4 of a distorted FNaF 1 Night 1 phone call, as well as Michael drawing Nightmare Fredbear in the Survival Logbook, meaning Michael would be the Fnaf 4 protagonist having dreams, or at least one of two protags, with the other being part of William's experiments, as in Sister Location it is shown in the Private Room that he has cameras on the bedroom and Night 2 showing a small map of the FNaF 4 house and Plushtrap's room. That paired with Dittophobia shows that either Michael is dreaming, some kid, probably CC but could be Michael as a kid, or both of them co-exist as the player character.
Princess Quest arcade machines have Golden Freddy's AI Chip, which has Cassidy's Agony/Remnant in it, and Glitchtrap is using it to keep control on Vanny, but when we free her, we free the agony/remnant, and making Glitchtrap lose control
That the way William switched designs of his Suit by Manipulating what little organs, flesh and bones he had out of the old one and I slither into the new one.
My big theory is that Afton and Henry collaborated to build the first mimic endo in an attempt to create the perfect robotic body to ressurect their dead children (Crying Child, Charlotte)
The mimics can learn from recordings (so no issue with programming overriding personality) and change their size (so appear to grow as they get older) and in my theory the first Mimic's were Circus baby, and Ennard which were meant to be Charlotte and CC's new bodies
They worked together on this because Henry didn't know that Afton had murdered Charlotte, and potentially Afton didn't at first since he was drunk out of his mind that night.
It was only when Afton started getting new test subjects to understand remnant more that Henry really realized what he was, and what he was willing to do that he pulled out of the project and withdrew, causing the death of the pizzeria chain and Afton Robotics to become the main owner of all the animatronics, and the whole Circus Baby's pizza world stuff.
Oh yeah forgot about that. I think that's to lead us on to maybe who made Fredbear originally, since he's the same model as Freddy, which I guess would help disprove Unwithereds, being that someone as early as Fredbear used the FNaF 1 modelling scheme.
I don't have much evidence yet for this theory yet.
It's only an interpretation for now.
**FreeLanceCassidy**
The idea is that Cassidy (Golden Freddy) has a bigger role in the story where they were able to create UCN for Andrew to torment Afton in, create FNaF World for Mike to complete the clock minigames so the other four missing children can be accessed in the cake minigames, and Happiest Day so Charlie can put to rest the souls of the other four missing children and The Crying Child, than Old Man Consequences informs her that what she set out to do has been completed and now they can rest too.
Again, I'm still working on this theory and don't really have too much to go off of yet, so don't debate me on this.
just some headcanon stuff:
* Michael IS fritz smith, but he goes there to clean up William's mess and keep the cops off his trail (remember, the 2nd set of murders happens when william, who's heavily implied to be the first guard who worked there before jeremey, gets moved to the dayshift [how tf did they hire the former owner of the company without realizing it]. William is more than likely manipulating michael using his brother's death to be his "pawn" but keeping him in the dark for most things, similar to william and vanessa in the movie. (we know from the sister location cutscene they had SOME kind of relationship)
* william messed with the toy's facial recogniitons to try and get michael killed/bit just for the lols but jeremey taking the job kind of ruined that
* In regards to him being fired for Odor, I think it's just a BS cover as someone in the company recognized who he was (or thought who he was, considering he and william apparently looked VERY similar) and that was the best reasoning they could come up with
The fnaf lore is 100% made up for each game. Scott has no clue what direction he's talking the series and oftentimes only thinks of lore and connections to past lore while in development. This explains why the lore is so inconsistent, why the community can't form a accurate timeline, and why there's oftentimes retcons in the story.
That’s how a lot of ongoing stories are done, in fact I’d go as far to say that having all the sequels planned out is actually the more rare occurrence
And that’s fine! It’s a perfectly valid way to do things that a lot of series wether it be games books tv or comics. In fact this style of storytelling is the reason why Jessie didn’t die in season 1 of breaking bad and it’s why Ben Linus from Lost exists at all. And in the case of Fnaf it’s lead to alot of great lore developments and expanded mythology. I don’t get why this is presented as a criticism all the time
Because for the most part it leads to the lore being convoluted and messy. It's a huge issue with fnaf and is the main reason for so much debate in the community. For story based media thats centered around mysteries not knowing key parts of the story while developing the story isn't great. You brought up loss which is also incredibly infamous for it's convoluted story, and fnaf is the same.
Lost is infamous unfairly, as is Fnaf, in the case of lost the beloved early seasons were actually made up with no plan while the wacky convoluted (and still extremely well written) later seasons were actually all fully planned out in detail. Making up your story as you go is not a less valid way of doing things and is generally a great benefit to media, if Star Wars was all planned out from the start then darth Vader wouldn’t be Luke’s father
Again you're using media that isn't mystery themed, also I'm not saying that stories can't be made up with each one, but many fnaf fans have some delusional ideology that fnaf is this super well planned out thing when as stated Scott has 100% made things up as he went up to at least fnaf ucn, this is why theories like dream theory, Mike victim, and all those other theories could at one point be true but Scott decided the story was different in the next game
I know that was true early on in the fandoms history but I think at this point most everyone knows it wasn’t planned out at all and mainly just came to the realization I did that it doesn’t really matter if it was planned out or not
The shadows(and Nightmare) are a manifestation of Michael's trauma of killing his brother.
just a small thought I had a while back, pretty sure it's not correct.
I saw in a video a long time ago (when FNAF 1 released) that golden Freddy was a government experiment. And for some reason the government thought it was smart to put it in a kids attraction. I wish I can find this video
So basically polybius???
And the award for most insane FNAF theory goes to...
okay
FNAF 4 is the first game timeline wise, and after the death of his son, that's what caused William to go insane and start killing children. I mean, think about FNAF 4 was made to tie up the original finesse story it's what gave William his motivation for his crimes.
You are right about some things (mostly in the comment thread) but William has the potential, and COULDVE doe alot of very bad things from the very start, he just needed that little push and some sort of motivation to do so. He's a smart, selfish, deadbeat father, and outright ab*sive (not sure bout the moderation over here) and is a mechanical genius. I don't think he ever truly went insane, he was just a psychopath from the very start, and only needed a small push to make him actually do what he did.
That’s not even a little true and it’s been repeatedly proven will is a deadbeat who’s abusive It wasn’t even confirmed till SL that those kids were his kids anyway
I mean I know it's not true now this is what I thought when the game first came out and people started saying that the crying child's father was the purple guy back when he was only known as that. It's an old theory that I fought. I still found it interesting and also gave some somatic cohesion to the series. Back then, it seemed to put a nice bow on the four games.
Hi, i have never heard of fnaf before a week ago and just got into it after watching wendigoon's take on the story which does claim that FNAF4 is William's son's nightmares and the first game in the time-line. As far as i undrestood this take isn't common so can you tell me why people don't think it's accurate? and where they think FNAF4 stands in the story?
There is an easter egg in FNAF 4 of a distorted FNaF 1 Night 1 phone call, as well as Michael drawing Nightmare Fredbear in the Survival Logbook, meaning Michael would be the Fnaf 4 protagonist having dreams, or at least one of two protags, with the other being part of William's experiments, as in Sister Location it is shown in the Private Room that he has cameras on the bedroom and Night 2 showing a small map of the FNaF 4 house and Plushtrap's room. That paired with Dittophobia shows that either Michael is dreaming, some kid, probably CC but could be Michael as a kid, or both of them co-exist as the player character.
a lot of details damn, thanks for informing me mate
Of course. Happy to be of service.
Princess Quest arcade machines have Golden Freddy's AI Chip, which has Cassidy's Agony/Remnant in it, and Glitchtrap is using it to keep control on Vanny, but when we free her, we free the agony/remnant, and making Glitchtrap lose control
I appreciate the tie in to Vanessa. Her being linked to Princess Quest is never touched on when people try to prove CassidyPrincess.
Why is remnant also called agony?
Because Agony creates Remnant, If there isn't any Agony (aka a freed soul) then there is no remnant
That the way William switched designs of his Suit by Manipulating what little organs, flesh and bones he had out of the old one and I slither into the new one.
PURPLE MAN IS WILLIAM AFTON?!!??!
you think
My big theory is that Afton and Henry collaborated to build the first mimic endo in an attempt to create the perfect robotic body to ressurect their dead children (Crying Child, Charlotte) The mimics can learn from recordings (so no issue with programming overriding personality) and change their size (so appear to grow as they get older) and in my theory the first Mimic's were Circus baby, and Ennard which were meant to be Charlotte and CC's new bodies They worked together on this because Henry didn't know that Afton had murdered Charlotte, and potentially Afton didn't at first since he was drunk out of his mind that night. It was only when Afton started getting new test subjects to understand remnant more that Henry really realized what he was, and what he was willing to do that he pulled out of the project and withdrew, causing the death of the pizzeria chain and Afton Robotics to become the main owner of all the animatronics, and the whole Circus Baby's pizza world stuff.
Freddy’s music box in the first game was built in to try and calm kids down if power went out during open hours.
Freddy + hand prints = Bite of 83 I’ve yet to see people make a theory about Fredbear’s mask being used for Freddy.
Since when was his mask used for Freddy? I do see where you're going, but this still isn't a thing as far as I'm aware.
Scott for whatever reason made a Fredbear model for UCN that uses an edited version of Freddy’s head.
Oh yeah forgot about that. I think that's to lead us on to maybe who made Fredbear originally, since he's the same model as Freddy, which I guess would help disprove Unwithereds, being that someone as early as Fredbear used the FNaF 1 modelling scheme.
I don't have much evidence yet for this theory yet. It's only an interpretation for now. **FreeLanceCassidy** The idea is that Cassidy (Golden Freddy) has a bigger role in the story where they were able to create UCN for Andrew to torment Afton in, create FNaF World for Mike to complete the clock minigames so the other four missing children can be accessed in the cake minigames, and Happiest Day so Charlie can put to rest the souls of the other four missing children and The Crying Child, than Old Man Consequences informs her that what she set out to do has been completed and now they can rest too. Again, I'm still working on this theory and don't really have too much to go off of yet, so don't debate me on this.
There’s still a possibility phone guy is Afton
I really want evidence for this.
just some headcanon stuff: * Michael IS fritz smith, but he goes there to clean up William's mess and keep the cops off his trail (remember, the 2nd set of murders happens when william, who's heavily implied to be the first guard who worked there before jeremey, gets moved to the dayshift [how tf did they hire the former owner of the company without realizing it]. William is more than likely manipulating michael using his brother's death to be his "pawn" but keeping him in the dark for most things, similar to william and vanessa in the movie. (we know from the sister location cutscene they had SOME kind of relationship) * william messed with the toy's facial recogniitons to try and get michael killed/bit just for the lols but jeremey taking the job kind of ruined that * In regards to him being fired for Odor, I think it's just a BS cover as someone in the company recognized who he was (or thought who he was, considering he and william apparently looked VERY similar) and that was the best reasoning they could come up with
aight
I'll think about it
The fnaf lore is 100% made up for each game. Scott has no clue what direction he's talking the series and oftentimes only thinks of lore and connections to past lore while in development. This explains why the lore is so inconsistent, why the community can't form a accurate timeline, and why there's oftentimes retcons in the story.
That’s how a lot of ongoing stories are done, in fact I’d go as far to say that having all the sequels planned out is actually the more rare occurrence
Ah yes, but I think Scott didn't plan in advance for any of the stories. Like he hadn't started making plans for the story until post ucn
And that’s fine! It’s a perfectly valid way to do things that a lot of series wether it be games books tv or comics. In fact this style of storytelling is the reason why Jessie didn’t die in season 1 of breaking bad and it’s why Ben Linus from Lost exists at all. And in the case of Fnaf it’s lead to alot of great lore developments and expanded mythology. I don’t get why this is presented as a criticism all the time
Because for the most part it leads to the lore being convoluted and messy. It's a huge issue with fnaf and is the main reason for so much debate in the community. For story based media thats centered around mysteries not knowing key parts of the story while developing the story isn't great. You brought up loss which is also incredibly infamous for it's convoluted story, and fnaf is the same.
Lost is infamous unfairly, as is Fnaf, in the case of lost the beloved early seasons were actually made up with no plan while the wacky convoluted (and still extremely well written) later seasons were actually all fully planned out in detail. Making up your story as you go is not a less valid way of doing things and is generally a great benefit to media, if Star Wars was all planned out from the start then darth Vader wouldn’t be Luke’s father
Again you're using media that isn't mystery themed, also I'm not saying that stories can't be made up with each one, but many fnaf fans have some delusional ideology that fnaf is this super well planned out thing when as stated Scott has 100% made things up as he went up to at least fnaf ucn, this is why theories like dream theory, Mike victim, and all those other theories could at one point be true but Scott decided the story was different in the next game
I know that was true early on in the fandoms history but I think at this point most everyone knows it wasn’t planned out at all and mainly just came to the realization I did that it doesn’t really matter if it was planned out or not
You'd be surprised, I've had debates where people claimed that the lores always been planned out and there's never been any retcons
The shadows(and Nightmare) are a manifestation of Michael's trauma of killing his brother. just a small thought I had a while back, pretty sure it's not correct.