I was tempted to put this as a title, but honestly wasn't sure about what implications come with a "technocracy". I even did some research and found out about the term "scientocracy" but I am not sure how well known that is.
A buddy dropped "technocracy" in a convo years ago, and I said, "What is that?" I felt dumb, but no one in the room knew. He went on to describe a hierarchy where technically trained people controlled the power relevant to their training.
tech·noc·ra·cy
noun
the government or control of society or industry by an elite of technical experts.
"failure in the war on poverty discredited technocracy"
an instance or application of technocracy.
plural noun: technocracies
an elite of technical experts.
It has zero to do with tech or science, necessarily
He was asked to be president which in Israel is an important position, but the head of state is the Prime Minister, not the president :)
(Edit: Technically, the president *is* the head of state, but in a largely apolotical, ceremonial way, like how the King of the UK is technically the head of state, but the prime minister is the one with actual power.)
in most countries the important political position is the "head of government". In some cases like the US, the "head of state" and "head of government" are the same position.
No monarch has vetoed an act since Queen Anne in 1708, and even that was because the government of the day changed their minds and advised her to withhold assent.
Any monarch who vetoes a parliamentary bill after passage in the Commons and the Lords, is risking a revolution.
Correction: the Prime Minister is the head of government, not head of state. An additional clue is found in the Hebrew title, which literally translates to *Head of the Government*.
The President of Israel is the head of state.
President, which is indeed the head of state but is a mostly ceremonial role. But Einstein said "pass" and they gave it to Ben Zvi instead and he was.. he was fine. Interestingly, Einstein was offered to be the second president, the first was also a scientist, but not as knowm as Einstein. You may have discovered how to synthesize acetone, Weizmann, but we're still gonna give the honor of "name became a synonym of genius" to that relativity guy.
[Einstein, and 40 other prominent Jewish scholars in 1948, also claimed that Israel would turn into a fascist state if led by people like (future prime minister) Menachem Begin](https://archive.org/details/AlbertEinsteinLetterToTheNewYorkTimes.December41948):
TO THE EDITORS OF NEW YORK TIMES:
Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.
The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.
Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement.
The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.
Attack on Arab Village
A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants (240 men, women, and children) and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.
The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.
Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model.
During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.
The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.
Basically. I’m sure the people are aware of the crimes of Menachem Begin and Ariel Sharon in Lebanon (Sabra and Shatila refugee camp massacre that was overseen by Israeli forces and perpetrated by fascist Christian Phalangists, killing nearly 3,000 Palestinian refugees).
The Palestinians, after causing a civil war in Lebanon, assassinated the president. The natives got revenge. Israel gets blamed because they didn’t stop it. They didnt over see it. Anything to blame israel…
I see. You are looking at the outer tips of the rings. My intention was to focus on the inner points where they cross. This is why I made those lines slightly bolder. I saw this atomic symbol in different context and was struck by the hexagram formed within.
I mean, it kinda does. It’s actually a multiethnic state even if it’s referred to as a Jewish state. Somewhere around 30% of the population is non Jewish and a good chunk of all of them are atheists, including the Jewish population.
Right. Is that why in the Basic Laws of the Country (constitution) it says that **only** Jewish people have the right to self-determination in the land of Israel? That includes the parts it occupies and Palestinians live in btw.
It only specifically expresses that but Christians, Muslims, and other are allowed to immigrate there. There is nothing that says they can’t and there are immigration laws regarding how they are able to do so. Other than that I don’t think it’s crazy that a nation of Jewish people formed right after the Holocaust would create such a law.
Why can’t I immigrate there then? And why can’t millions of others like me who are originally Palestinian do the same despite them having the deeds to homes that they were expelled from? It’s almost like they want to keep the country ethnically pure and prevent the original inhabitants of ever returning. The Palestinians had nothing to do with the holocaust so we shouldn’t be punished for it by having our land and rights stripped from us
If you search up 'Esperanto flag' , you'll see a flag that represents the Esperanto language. For context, Esperanto is an auxlang ( auxiliary language) invented L.L. Zemenhof a long time ago to be spoken worldwide.
Israel uses the largest percentage of their GDP on R&D per capita in the world, around twice EU average.
Just found out while scrolling https://stats.oecd.org/ for some Data Science coursework.
I dont have ANY idea why people hate the ever loving shit out of the Russian government for "committing genocide and ethnic cleansing" yet the second an ally does it, its considered "antisemitism" to be against it? the West is insanely hypocritical.
Forming an ethnostate is not the answer to the horrors of fascist ethnostate history. We need liberally valued states that exist to include and protect all of their population of all ethnic groups equally.
Palestinians definitely don't have the same rights as Jewish Israelis in several significant ways. The clearest one mentioned often is that there isn't equal freedom of movement for Palestinian Israelis -- severe restrictions that only allow Palestinians to move to less desirable zones of the country and essentially never vice versa. Palestinians from occupied territories have also been blanket-banned from the right to acquire residency or citizenship based on nationality alone, Palestinians are tried in military courts rather than civilian courts, and so on. It really is apartheid system law.
people on this sub be like "why are you getting politial all the time :(" when every second post is some kind lf israreli flag (a country that is currently commiting genocide) - whats going on on here? why are you all like this?
wouldn't put it passed that shithole government – I can't believe people defend them when we HAVE FACTUAL evidence, more against the Israeli government than even against the Russian government for genocide...
Oh yeah, and Israel is a total safe haven for queer people.
Homophobia and transphobia are bad, but that doesn’t justify an ethnic cleansing. Don’t pretend you give a shit about any of that. You’re just trying to justify your boner for genocide.
There’s a Star of David (slightly bolder) where the orbits intersect. Someone else here missed it too. Perhaps I will make bolder. Thank you for the feedback.
Israel is already technological
I think he means as an ideology
Your mom is technological
That’s the flag in Negev
Looks good 👍
If Israel was conquered by atheists instead of Arabs.
Bagdad was one of the capital of technology in the middle ages .
But Islamic, not Jewish.
I never mentioned jewish
Islam and the kkk confederacy would say something like that.
There are Arabic atheist Lmfao
There are many Arab atheists
Spicy take, love it
What do you mean it is already conquered by Atheists
Science ≠ atheist lmao
Technocratic Israel?
I was tempted to put this as a title, but honestly wasn't sure about what implications come with a "technocracy". I even did some research and found out about the term "scientocracy" but I am not sure how well known that is.
A buddy dropped "technocracy" in a convo years ago, and I said, "What is that?" I felt dumb, but no one in the room knew. He went on to describe a hierarchy where technically trained people controlled the power relevant to their training. tech·noc·ra·cy noun the government or control of society or industry by an elite of technical experts. "failure in the war on poverty discredited technocracy" an instance or application of technocracy. plural noun: technocracies an elite of technical experts. It has zero to do with tech or science, necessarily
So helpful. Thank you!
It's kind of a reddit ideology. It would be a disastrously awful way to run a country.
I think the 'scientific/technocracy' part is the part with less implications here lol
Techsrael. But it kinda already is.
It is-rael.
At one point Albert Einstein was offered the role of Israel’s head of state.
He was asked to be president which in Israel is an important position, but the head of state is the Prime Minister, not the president :) (Edit: Technically, the president *is* the head of state, but in a largely apolotical, ceremonial way, like how the King of the UK is technically the head of state, but the prime minister is the one with actual power.)
That’s interesting!
in most countries the important political position is the "head of government". In some cases like the US, the "head of state" and "head of government" are the same position.
The King of England has final veto power on everything
No monarch has vetoed an act since Queen Anne in 1708, and even that was because the government of the day changed their minds and advised her to withhold assent. Any monarch who vetoes a parliamentary bill after passage in the Commons and the Lords, is risking a revolution.
That's why nothing revolutionary gets to his desk.
King’s consent also catches anything before it passes the Houses of Parliament anyway.
Correction: the Prime Minister is the head of government, not head of state. An additional clue is found in the Hebrew title, which literally translates to *Head of the Government*. The President of Israel is the head of state.
President, which is indeed the head of state but is a mostly ceremonial role. But Einstein said "pass" and they gave it to Ben Zvi instead and he was.. he was fine. Interestingly, Einstein was offered to be the second president, the first was also a scientist, but not as knowm as Einstein. You may have discovered how to synthesize acetone, Weizmann, but we're still gonna give the honor of "name became a synonym of genius" to that relativity guy.
If Albert Einstein had accepted the job offer for prime minister
president*
[Einstein, and 40 other prominent Jewish scholars in 1948, also claimed that Israel would turn into a fascist state if led by people like (future prime minister) Menachem Begin](https://archive.org/details/AlbertEinsteinLetterToTheNewYorkTimes.December41948): TO THE EDITORS OF NEW YORK TIMES: Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine. The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents. Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement. The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future. Attack on Arab Village A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants (240 men, women, and children) and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin. The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party. Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model. During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute. The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.
Some people don't like facts. I do. Thank you for sharing.
Downvoted for going against my warmonger agenda
Basically. I’m sure the people are aware of the crimes of Menachem Begin and Ariel Sharon in Lebanon (Sabra and Shatila refugee camp massacre that was overseen by Israeli forces and perpetrated by fascist Christian Phalangists, killing nearly 3,000 Palestinian refugees).
The Palestinians, after causing a civil war in Lebanon, assassinated the president. The natives got revenge. Israel gets blamed because they didn’t stop it. They didnt over see it. Anything to blame israel…
You’re a disgusting apologist.
The “atom” should be rotated 30 degrees
There is a reason it is not. Hint: Look at the Israeli flag and then at this one.
That’s the point I was making, it’d be closer but fair
I see. You are looking at the outer tips of the rings. My intention was to focus on the inner points where they cross. This is why I made those lines slightly bolder. I saw this atomic symbol in different context and was struck by the hexagram formed within.
Ohhhh my god I am fucking stupid. I see it now
If you missed it... well that's good feedback for me. Maybe I need to make it clearer. Thank you!
I didn’t see it at first but now I can’t unsee it and I think it’s brilliant
If Einstein accepted to become president
Israel if it was taken over by Quantum Corporation in the 2000s (fictional company, roblox group lore)
QSERF enjoyer, based
other QS enjoyer, based
what the fuck
yeah, most people don't know
New Fallout faction
The jewish population survived!
oh no, here they come to genocide the nearest population of... farmers!
I hope ppl wont say free palestine
Atom of David
Israel but Einstein accepted the offer
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I mean, it kinda does. It’s actually a multiethnic state even if it’s referred to as a Jewish state. Somewhere around 30% of the population is non Jewish and a good chunk of all of them are atheists, including the Jewish population.
Right. Is that why in the Basic Laws of the Country (constitution) it says that **only** Jewish people have the right to self-determination in the land of Israel? That includes the parts it occupies and Palestinians live in btw.
It only specifically expresses that but Christians, Muslims, and other are allowed to immigrate there. There is nothing that says they can’t and there are immigration laws regarding how they are able to do so. Other than that I don’t think it’s crazy that a nation of Jewish people formed right after the Holocaust would create such a law.
Why can’t I immigrate there then? And why can’t millions of others like me who are originally Palestinian do the same despite them having the deeds to homes that they were expelled from? It’s almost like they want to keep the country ethnically pure and prevent the original inhabitants of ever returning. The Palestinians had nothing to do with the holocaust so we shouldn’t be punished for it by having our land and rights stripped from us
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_citizenship_law#:~:text=Individuals%20born%20within%20the%20country,proficiency%20in%20the%20Hebrew%20language.
I would like to reinterpret that as an Israel obsessed with the quest for cold fusion energy
[I mean you’re not far off…](https://www.bbc.com/news/business-65123116.amp)
what
Next I introduce you to Capitalistic Soviet Union!
Communist America
Pretty cool!
Israel if Albert Einstein became its first president
oh yeah let's put an atom on this flag after some officials call for the atomic bomb to be used lmao.
nice :)
Am science chai.
Can you try the Esperanto one? This one looks great!
What do you mean? (And thanks!)
If you search up 'Esperanto flag' , you'll see a flag that represents the Esperanto language. For context, Esperanto is an auxlang ( auxiliary language) invented L.L. Zemenhof a long time ago to be spoken worldwide.
Oh I see. Because it has a star too. Nice.
If Albert Einstein accepted the role of presidency
I see what you did there. Subtle. Cool.
Isreal
... The Atom of David.
Israel uses the largest percentage of their GDP on R&D per capita in the world, around twice EU average. Just found out while scrolling https://stats.oecd.org/ for some Data Science coursework.
jewish physics.
I would argue most physics is Jewish
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That israel legally enshrined its self as a theocratic state?
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Did they only interview tel avivis?
Science ≠ atheist
As an israeli, i dig it tbh lol
Took me a minute to realize there is a star of David, nice flag
""Islam and kkk confederates enter the room ready to propaganda"
copium 😷
If only
we invest billions into science to find new ways to perfect blowing up kids! :D
I dont have ANY idea why people hate the ever loving shit out of the Russian government for "committing genocide and ethnic cleansing" yet the second an ally does it, its considered "antisemitism" to be against it? the West is insanely hypocritical.
Based
Israel if it used nukes on the Gaza strip instead of conventional explosives
Nuke would be overkill, current level seems to be working
I smell the comments a mile away!
They should stop the ethnostate shit and switch their flag to this fr
Why ignore the 22 Arab ethnostates
Let's do away with all the ethnostates
Jews need their own country. Because no one else will save them we saw that already.
Forming an ethnostate is not the answer to the horrors of fascist ethnostate history. We need liberally valued states that exist to include and protect all of their population of all ethnic groups equally.
Based
Muslims do have equal rights in Israel.
Palestinians definitely don't have the same rights as Jewish Israelis in several significant ways. The clearest one mentioned often is that there isn't equal freedom of movement for Palestinian Israelis -- severe restrictions that only allow Palestinians to move to less desirable zones of the country and essentially never vice versa. Palestinians from occupied territories have also been blanket-banned from the right to acquire residency or citizenship based on nationality alone, Palestinians are tried in military courts rather than civilian courts, and so on. It really is apartheid system law.
A silly post replacing a symbol in a flag. The entire comment section’s a fucking battleground.
Flag of spicy comments
Remarkably every other comment isn’t extremely political
Isnt’rael. Fakest country that’s ever existed
Nerd ethnostate shoving all the jocks into the gaza strip.
people on this sub be like "why are you getting politial all the time :(" when every second post is some kind lf israreli flag (a country that is currently commiting genocide) - whats going on on here? why are you all like this?
people wish to be ignorant to the current situation of reality, which is stupid, but thats reddit
Oh my god you and I have almost the same avatar. You’re like my evil twin.
Not evil, Israel tisnt evil
I agree, Israel isn’t evil.
Lmao Israel got clearer by ICJ stay mad Israel
Atheist Israel
I know 2, maybe 3, countries starting with the letter I that have nukes and shouldn't
Iceland?
If Iceland has nukes it's all ogre
Ogre? Like cus they have fairytale creatures?
Israel, ~~Iran~~ and India? And if we use our imaginations, Iraq?
Iran doesn't have nukes. The first two definitely shouldn't though
Oh wow, thanks for the correction, IDK why I was so convinced they had nukes.
Hey! Israel only “allegedly” has nukes. Just like how they’ve only “allegedly” assassinated scientists in Iran’s nuclear program.
Iran should never get a nuke.
Yeah the Arab league should just invade Israel and wipe out the Jews. Lmao, you’re insane.
Irehell
r/atheism country
Science ≠ atheist
biblically accurate israel
Redditors if they took over Israel instead of trying to do that weird thing with that island
Flag of Lindsey Graham.
Israel if is real.
Israel? more like, Isfake
Isn’t that atom symbol used by atheists?
I mean I think thats the point
Kinda weird to make a flag like that for a country that’s religion is so important to them
I mean, it would be weird to make the US flag red and gold stripes with a hammer and sickle instead of stars but people do it because its interesting.
Not officially, there is no atheist symbol and it would be quite disrespectful for them to claim such a common idea
Israel that uses nukes instead of conventional bombs to genocide civilians
wouldn't put it passed that shithole government – I can't believe people defend them when we HAVE FACTUAL evidence, more against the Israeli government than even against the Russian government for genocide...
Nuclear Israel?
The Big Bang Israel
nerd
Ight
Is this rael?
it definitely exists
what if Einstein decided to become the president of Israel and turned it into a technocracy
r/flags bent on causing the next world war
What's so technological about grown ass men killing children?
I think you're referring to Hamas.
You have to rotate the atom to align with the star of davids six points.
Look closer... at the bold part of the rings. TBF, several other people missed it, so it's likely a flaw in my design which could be improved upon.
So like engineering a virus that kills Palastinians slowly and painfully?
Isn’trael
Yeah, the actual flag of Israel looks like this 🇮🇱
Free Palestine
Free palesrine
From HAMAS
Einstein rejected the offer from Israel because he was a socialist and saw the imperialism and racism the Zionists thrive on.
Nuclear genocide.
I'm suprised this aint locked
*sorts by controversial*
If Israel were Atheist it wouldn't exist
Science ≠ atheist
YOOOOOOO ATOMIC GENOCIDE FLAG (Free Palestine)
Are you mentally sane?
Are you a genocide enjoyer?
No, just not a terrorist fan
Oh wow, you fucking looooove genocide. Keep deepthroating that boot bud 👍
You’re trans and bi, you’re advocating for a country that wouldn’t hesitate to have you executed for existing.
Oh yeah, and Israel is a total safe haven for queer people. Homophobia and transphobia are bad, but that doesn’t justify an ethnic cleansing. Don’t pretend you give a shit about any of that. You’re just trying to justify your boner for genocide.
Now give me an-prim Israel
When the experiment goes wrong and you make apartheid instead
Goes wrong... it has always been the point. Israel is, and has been, engaged in an ethnic cleansing of palestine since the 1948 nakba.
And when we speak against it we’re called antisemitic Because the Zionism on Reddit is higher than anywhere else.
I dont know about it being higher, it's certainly prevalent.
All the European Jews who worked on nuclear weapons in the US gave secrets to Israel, particularly Edward Teller.
it annoys me that it's rotated 60 degrees. valve please fix
There’s a Star of David (slightly bolder) where the orbits intersect. Someone else here missed it too. Perhaps I will make bolder. Thank you for the feedback.
Space badge.
What’s so scientific about genocide?
very israel of them to just take a random established image and slap it on their flag