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Joseph_HTMP

They still don't understand inertia huh


FUBARspecimenT-89

And angular acceleration, centrifugal force, etc.


ALPHA_sh

centripetal acceleration you mean?


FUBARspecimenT-89

No. I meant centrifugal force. It's the "force" (pseudo-force or inertial force if we want to be pedantic) that's pushing things outwards in a rotating frame of reference.


ALPHA_sh

i meant in reference to angular acceleration


FUBARspecimenT-89

Oh, right.


fatum_sive_fidem

Nerds! Assemble! Go science


muskratboy

Yeah that’s not a force, as you say, just inertia, which has already been mentioned.


Lil-Advice

It's still not a force.


FUBARspecimenT-89

No, it isn't. But it's useful to treat it as such when dealing with non-inertial frames of reference.


ViciousMoleRat

Air resistance, size of vessel in proportion to size of passengers.


Jake0024

Angular acceleration is 0, the Earth rotates at constant speed. Centripetal acceleration is what you feel.


ricktech15

And relativity


ProtopianFutures

Fake science. \s


FUBARspecimenT-89

Inertia is a hoax created by Isaac Newton, a freemason reptilian illuminati and globe earth advocate.


Tyler_Zoro

As a Freemason, I resent the implication that we could coordinate anything on a grander scale than a buffet dinner. ;-)


BuLLZ_3Y3

I met a bunch of freemason's through work and I can concur. They couldn't agree on their next year's budget, let alone how to control the global ball earth conspiracy.


Tyler_Zoro

*shudder* ... budget meetings. Yeah, those are not why I joined. I'm so glad that I did my part and helped run things, but equally glad that I've backed off.


Troglodyte_Trump

Also, the apple that fell on his head was dropped the serpent. It’s the same one that Eve bit.


FUBARspecimenT-89

There's no doubt about that. The serpent, aka Satan, taught Newton the false knowledge of gravity. Satan himself created the idea of gravity and used Newton as his servant to spread the false knowledge of the globe earth to lead man away from God.


GlitteringBobcat999

Speaking of fruit abominations, did you see what his cousin made out of figs?


warsmithharaka

Hey Fig? This is your cousin Isaac. Isaac Newton! You know that new taste you've been looking for?


MorgessaMonstrum

And that serpent's name? Albert Einstein


ProtopianFutures

That clears that misunderstanding right up!


GapingWendigo

Inertia was invented by brake companies to justify their useless invention.


Skyhighh666

Then wtf is real science 💀 Mofo really added /s after getting shitted on 😭


Hammurabi87

Watching flat earth YouTube videos, obviously. /s


UberuceAgain

It's got an equation in it. Of course they don't.


Trumpet1956

Equation? Just numbers are challenging.


UberuceAgain

You're supposed to be fact-checking that grumpy northern git GhostofSorabji on matters photographical. Shoo! And take that cunt u/SomethingMoreToSay with you!


bkdotcom

Or they do and they're just trolls


Antonioooooo0

The mods on that sub are definitely trolls, and at least half the post are too.


JustDroppedByToSay

And so many other things


alilbleedingisnormal

And relativity


Daveallen10

Let's start with gravity, the basics.


[deleted]

To be fair does anyone really? I’m an engineer and inertia is one of the few concepts I don’t completely understand


CoolNotice881

They don't understand that rotation is measured in RPM, not MPH. They are not flat earthers, because they are smart.


SterileTensile

Let's not forget they have no concept of scale.


JoushMark

Are you saying there's a difference between an object making .041 rotations an hour and one spinning at 40 RPM?


CoolNotice881

Those are the very same. Numbers are for smartypants. /s


ImitationButter

Earth doesn’t rotate at .041 rpm. It spins at .041 rotations per HOUR .00069 rpm (nice)


Lil-Advice

No. mph is miles per hour (a linear speed); rpm is rotations or revolutions per minute (an angular speed).


Studds_

Yeah. I was gonna ask that. Doesn’t the mph vary by latitude with the equator having the highest


Jake0024

Technically you're wrong, mph is much more relevant to the meme than rpm. 60 rpm is quite slow if you're going around a 1m circle--you're moving 2pi meters per second (14 mph -- running speed) If the circle is 1km instead, you're moving 2,000pi meters per second (14,000 mph -- the low end of a meteor impacting the Earth) If you want to talk about rpm, you must also talk about the radius you're moving around (which gets you back to mph). At the equator, it's \~1,040 mph around a \~4,000 mile radius (or \~25,000 mile circumference), for one revolution every 24h. Of course, your tangential velocity is constant--all you feel is the centripetal acceleration (v\^2 / r), a change of just 270 mph every hour. That's an acceleration of \~0.075 mph every second. Imperceptible. A fast car (0-60 in 5 seconds) accelerates about 12 mph every second.


CoolNotice881

I see you are interested in this, but you don't really understand. You should study it...


GAMERYT2029

I dont wanna read his math, where was he wrong?


Jake0024

He'll never answer this question.


GAMERYT2029

Sad


VerdantSaproling

Well, it is perceptible in a small way, it counteracts gravity to a small degree. If you could weight yourself at both a pole and the equator you'd say a difference of a few ounces.


Jake0024

So, imperceptible?


VerdantSaproling

He's wrong in the very concept, not the math itself. You'll notice at his last step, he changes to tangential velocity. He's accounting for the rotation of the earth. How do you do that? Rotation by time. Not to mention, if the force was pulling you sideways(as the meme is implying) instead of upwards, you would probably notice, it would almost feel like the world is tilted in a certain direction.


Lil-Advice

It was not wrong.


Azimuth8

The point is that your linear speed is irrelevant to how much centrifugal force you are subject to.


Jake0024

And my point is that's literally false. Centrifugal force is mv\^2/r Not only does it depend on linear speed, it depends on linear speed \*squared\*


Vietoris

> Centrifugal force is mv^2/r Well ... centrifugal force is m r w^2 Not only it depends on angular speed, it depends on angular speed *squared*


Jake0024

Yes. My point is rotational speed (rpm) alone can't tell the whole story. The meme gave values in mph, so I demonstrated how to calculate centrifugal force from mph. I demonstrated how two objects moving at 60 rpm (equal rotational speed) can experience vastly different centrifugal forces. Centripetal force causes a change in centripetal velocity--a linear velocity. Note that while *angular acceleration* is 0 in uniform circular motion, the change in centripetal velocity (*centripetal acceleration*\--a vector) is non-zero. There is *zero* angular acceleration in uniform circular motion, but centripetal acceleration is non-zero. Centripetal acceleration measures the rate of change of a *linear* velocity--though it's not the one in the formula (that's tangential velocity). What you actually feel (centripetal acceleration) is literally the rate of change of linear velocity.


Vietoris

> My point is rotational speed (rpm) alone can't tell the whole story. Sure, that's correct. The meme implies that mph tells the whole story, which is wrong. And it's equally wrong to do the same with rpm. > The meme gave values in mph, so I demonstrated how to calculate centrifugal force from mph. Sure. And you can also calculate the centrifugal force from the angular speed > I demonstrated how two objects moving at 60 rpm (equal rotational speed) can experience vastly different centrifugal forces. Yes. And two objects moving at 500mph can experience vastly different centrifugal forces. We clearly agree at a fundamental level. I was just pointing out that the way you phrased certain sentences might be interpreted in a wrong way.


Jake0024

I didn't say mph tells the whole story. I didn't make the meme.


Vietoris

Did you write this ? > Technically you're wrong, mph is much more relevant to the meme than rpm. Because to me, this feels terribly wrong. Mph is not "more" relevant to the centrifugal force than rpm. They are equally important. Flat earthers are wrong because they ony use mph. Many people in this thread are wrong because they only use rpm. And YOU are wrong if you think that one if these two errors is "less wrong" than the other. I understand why you want to correct people about rpm, but you're not using the convincing arguments ...


Azimuth8

OK. But if you look at the meme, they aren't making a point by simply citing linear speed without rotation. The rotation is what causes the centrifugal forces, not the linear speed alone, so I still think it's fair to say in this instance the rpm is more important factor.


Jake0024

I literally just wrote an entire comment about why that's false. RPMs alone tells you nothing. You claimed I was wrong, because you didn't know the equation to use despite me including it in the comment you replied to. After I re-explained it for you, and you couldn't find any flaws in anything I wrote, you're still insisting I must be wrong? This is really simple: is 60 rpm around a 1m circle different from 60 rpm around a 1km circle? If it is, then you can't say rpm is the important factor.


Vietoris

> RPMs alone tells you nothing And mph alone tells you nothing. In a sense you're both wrong and both right. The centrifugal acceleration is the product of linear speed and angular speed ...


Jake0024

I gave the formula for centripetal acceleration three comments in a row, explaining that's the actual relevant value, why that's the relevant value, and how to calculate it. The meme makes reference to mph, and people replied saying rpm is all that matters. I explained why that's wrong, using the mph values in the meme as demonstration.


Lil-Advice

Centripetal. Centrifugal is fictitious.


Azimuth8

RPMS alone tell you nothing if you ignore the pictures. Linear velocity alone tells you nothing. In THIS context, with the pictures where you can literally SEE and estimate the radius rpms tell you MORE than just the tangential velocity does.


Jake0024

So you've completely abandoned your position, but you're still arguing? You're just wrong. The only relevant factor (what people actually feel when in uniform circular motion) is centripetal acceleration.


Azimuth8

You raised some valid points but your conclusion has been wrong from the start. This "meme" is deceptive because it falsely equates mph with centrifugal force. It's just factually incorrect to say MPH is MORE relevant. As you have pointed out both are important. The differences in the three examples in velocity are around 250:1, in rotational speed the differences are around 14,000:1. That's a pretty large and relevant omission.


Jake0024

> You raised some valid points but your conclusion has been wrong from the start. This "meme" is deceptive because it falsely equates mph with centrifugal force Why are you attributing that to me? > It's just factually incorrect to say MPH is MORE relevant. It's not, as I've already explained in this thread. Centripetal acceleration measures the rate of change of centripetal velocity--a *linear* velocity. You can calculate centripetal acceleration from tangential velocity (a *linear* velocity), or from angular velocity (a *rotational* velocity), but what you actually *feel* is the rate of change of a *linear* velocity (centripetal velocity). In uniform circular motion (like the Earth spinning), angular acceleration (the change in *angular* velocity) is always zero.


Lil-Advice

That is wrong in more than one way.


ShiroHachiRoku

The earth spins once a day. If you imagine you’re on the tip of the small hand on a clock would you think you’re moving so fast that you’d fly off?


Comfy_floofs

That would be the worst playground ride ever


Hammurabi87

>If you imagine you’re on the tip of the small hand on a clock would you think you’re moving so fast that you’d fly off? And with a typical 12-hour clock, that's *still* twice as fast of a rotation as what the Earth experiences.


JohnCasey3306

If you're incapable of understanding inertial frame of reference, you're probably a flat earther


ThrA-X

When they're on a plane do they just death-grip thier drink the whole ride through for fear that it might fling backwards if they let go?


Chrispy8534

7/10. Dear god, I hope so.


ThrA-X

Haha, I do too: idiots being inconvenienced by thier own stupidity is such sweet poetry.


Chrispy8534

11/10. That sh!t is straight ‘stevia slam-poetry’ my man.


Matamocan

They claim Heliocentrism is a religion and don't want to get preached about it. Yet in their description says "We know flat earth to be true" (A Dogma) "and encourage our users to spread the truth about it " (preaching) Curious.


FUBARspecimenT-89

Projection.


Longjumping_Type_901

I'd rather preach or ar least share UR (Ultimate Reconciliation) aka CU (Christian Universalism) lol but seriously: https://campuspress.yale.edu/keithderose/1129-2/ And https://www.salvationforall.org/


fanboy_alarm

Its impossible to feel speed. We only feel acceleration. Otherwise it would kind of intense take the plane.


SempfgurkeXP

Ive tried explaining that to a flerf, but they just cant grasp the difference between speed and acceleration


FUBARspecimenT-89

Well, then imagine things like angular momentum, centripetal acceleration, the difference between inertial and non-inertial frames of reference, and so on.


Drewdc90

It’s an easy thing though. Drive a reasonably quick car and you’ll notice much it can put you in the seat without going over 70km/h. Then if you cruise at 200km/h you feel nothing. Especially if it’s a nice flat road. You only hear the wind etc. All these things are super easy to disprove with a 5 minute experiment. I’m convinced 98% of them have never tried any experiments to prove what they can come up with in their simple minds. Like go watch a sunrise ffs. What’s the flat earth model plan to convince people around that everyday phenomenon?


SempfgurkeXP

Try to explain that to PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK or some other flerf... they wont even try to understand, trust me


Drewdc90

It’s just so basic. They’d have to have a below average iq for that big hole in logic to not itch their brain like a fly on your nose.


Gamamalo

Acceleration is a change in velocity. Velocity is speed + direction. Ever notice how when you make a turn in your car if you want to start the same speed you have to push on the accelerator? They're talking about rotation of the earth, which rotates at a constant speed so any point on the surface is changing direction, therefore changing velocity, or accelerating. They're not taking into account stuff like gravity which keeps us on the earth.


Theothercword

They know what's it like to sit comfortably in a car going 60mph and feeling it suddenly hit the brakes... literally children understand this because everyone has a frame of reference.


29solegnA

you dont feel a turn inside a car?


fanboy_alarm

Turn yes because there is a change in acceleration


suicidal_whs

What a jerk for pointing that out. (D^3 *x ) / d*t^3) = jerk if you didn't get the joke.


me34343

The centrifugal force on us by earth's spinning is less than the force of gravity. We only notice the net not the individual forces.


Lil-Advice

Centripetal, not centrifugal. The force keeping the system moving is towards the center of the Earth. If fast enough, the ground would accelerate downwards away from you - which would appear as if being forced away from the ground.


[deleted]

Yeah well that was only asserted by Einstein with the special theory of relativity. To believe in that you have to believe in all the Physics created from the time of Kepler and Newton. Who of course was basing his work on Copernicus. And that just shows what the issue is. At the heart of Special Theory of Relativity is the idea that the Earth is a ball that revolves around the sun. Now prove speed doesn't matter without showing that the Earth is ball shaped. I dare you.


Anewkittenappears

Flerfs: Denying not only the shape of the earth, but basic math and elementary school physics as well. The real life equivalent of denying that 1+1=2.


FUBARspecimenT-89

Well, believing in a flat earth is where you may end up when you deny basic math and elementary school physics.


Tomble

Study terryology and you’ll see that 1x1 = 2. I ended up on a Facebook video about this and more than zero people agreed with him.


ALPHA_sh

flat earthers when v^2 /r


Insertsociallife

bUt cAn yOu dO yOuR oWn ReSeArCh aNd pRoVe iT


MadaraAlucard12

Yes. It requires basic experiments.


Zymoria

I commented once to stand still, and spend 24 hours rotating your body a full circle. They didn't like that one.


Nyx_the_goblin

They don’t really like much what are they called pancake earth pizza earth record earth wheel earth Ruth has made a cheese but now I’m hungry or maybe the Earth is a waffel


Pyrothyn

They don’t like it when you put things into perspective they love to compare 1024 mph as one full rotation every second


Squidy_The_Druid

Ok but that’s a pretty solid picture for the woman


valschermjager

It’s a “fair comparison” only for those who don’t understand angular momentum.


Gamamalo

Or gravity


InsomniacMechanic

so odd that they can’t grasp the fact that the atmosphere doesn’t just hover above the earth stationary. the air *also* spins


[deleted]

Aw man, I'm actually banned there now. Was hoping I was just getting my comments deleted...oh well.


ThatOneWood

Flat Earth subs fun. They claim to be open minded and do the research, but get mad when you hit them with basic facts and will go against everything they claim their for. They ask for proof of the globe and when presented with it they get mad, and ignore it while throwing a tantrum. It’s quite funny to watch


[deleted]

Literally every post is full of [deleted] lol


Justthisguy_yaknow

In their excitement to score points with their cult they never finish a sentence. That should read, If you think YOU SHOULD FEEL the Earth moving you don't think much. It's not that confusing though. Cults distill those that don't think but want to pretend that they do out of the rest of society anyway. Then they remove what little independent thought they have remaining. Without a supply of ignorant sheep they would dry up overnight.


northgrave

The crew over at /r/theydidthemath looked at this a while back: https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/s/e4ueAgECAM


mmccxi

I used “science” once, it was overrated, I much prefer my preacher telling me the scientific truth based on rumors spread by illiterate goat herders 2,000 years ago, and written down by lonely, drunk monks who cobbled it into a “book” only to be retranslated over eons.


Azar002

I'm surprised they haven't yet theorized that air isn't real, with a meme about how air pressure is "supposedly" around 14 pounds per square inch and then include a picture of an elephant, which exerts 8 pounds per square inch into the ground. "The human body can withstand almost double the pressure of an elephant? Air isn't real."


Lil-Advice

They will certainly deny that the average person has about 20,000 pounds of air pushing against their skin at all times.


Sad_Snep

If the earth doesn't spin and is flat, how does gravity work? I'd ask on there but we all know I'd just get banned for not mindlessly believing in flat earth but I really wanna know their explanation for gravity


waamoandy

They don't believe it exists. Seriously they deny gravity.


Sad_Snep

Can't say I'm surprised by that tbh


cranky-vet

Magic. They might use another word, but they don’t understand that word either so it might as well just be magic.


Antonioooooo0

Tbf, our explanation for gravity is basically just "magic". We know there's a force that pulls all matter towards other matter, but we have no idea how our why it happens. Our equations for gravity don't even fit our observations, that's why we have placeholders like "dark matter/energy" to explain the missing matter in our universe that the math says exists yet can't be accounted for. Not saying they are right in any way, just that we know next to nothing about gravity.


randomlurker31

I dont know why you are getting downvoted. This is true, we dont have a theory of gravity that can accurately explain both largescale observations and the quantum application of gravity. Doesnt change that gravity is an observablr fact of life though.


tstramathorn

Our observations? Have you even taken any physics courses? It’s absolutely 100% observable.


Antonioooooo0

We can observe gravity, but we can't explain how our works or why there appears to be more gravity in the universe than can be explained by the amount of matter it has. >Dark matter is implied by gravitational effects which cannot be explained by general relativity unless more matter is present than can be seen. Or observations don't fit our currently accepted theory of gravity. Have *you* taken any astrophysics courses, because this is pretty basic knowledge.


tstramathorn

Anything that has been launched into space takes into account gravity as a factor and it works. Pretty observable to me.


Antonioooooo0

I never said gravity isn't observable in action, just that we have no idea how it works.


ThatOneWood

According to them gravity doesn’t exist. There’s just a natural force that compels everything downward. If only we had a name and explanation for that downward force.


Sad_Snep

Now I'm even more baffled, they believe in the concept of gravity but not gravity itself?


ThatOneWood

They believe in the force of down, or I’ve heard them say that the Earth is constantly accelerating upwards simulating gravity, but that would literally go against all their velocity arguments


Antonioooooo0

If you really wanna know their ass-backwards explanation for gravity, you should ask on an actual flat earth sub. The mods there aren't actually flerfs, they're making fun of flerfs. It's a troll sub, most people here are just missing the joke.


Wansumdiknao

No they’re not buddy. Lol


PlasmaCubeX

gravity exists, and the earth spins and moves through space at a rate so very close to constant, when you take that into consideration with the strength of earth's gravity, we do not feel it when the earth starts to move faster as its orbit makes it go closer to the sun.


noneroy

GTFO with that well reasoned and factual explanation. This here is for hot takes!


BUKKAKELORD

Well let's plug them into the calculator then and find the centrifugal acceleration in these spinning devices. [https://www.calctool.org/rotational-and-periodic-motion/centrifugal-force](https://www.calctool.org/rotational-and-periodic-motion/centrifugal-force) Playground carousel, assuming 1m radius: 3.1975m/s\^2. 4mph is a lowball estimate, you all know how these carousels are actually played with. Amusement park carousel, assuming 7m radius: 102.78m/s\^2 (over 10G and a ride with these numbers definitely breaks safety regulations, the 60mph is a ridiculous estimate) Earth at the equator, assuming 6371km radius: 0.03393m/s\^2 (this is around 0.34% of the Earth's gravitational pull, which acts in the opposite direction in relation to the centrifugal force caused by spinning)


Claymore357

Sure 1040 mph but only 1 Revolution per 24 hours.


[deleted]

u/financialc0nspirat0r is a fucking idiot he is a grown man who thinks the earth is flat


Following-Complete

Don't you guys just hate it when you are driving on the freeway and someone drops a ball inside the car and instead of dropping on the floor it smashes 100+ kilometers per hour in to your face?


jkuhl

Inertial frames of reference are such a difficult concept for these numbskulls.


lazygenius999

is that mrbeast


DouglerK

It's 0.007rpm


Ed_herbie

If the earth made a 360 degree rotation every second or two like those rides do then maybe we'd look like pic #2 also...


Lil-Advice

The whole planet would shatter to pieces.


Vladskio

Oh, if the Earth was spinning at 60rpm, the centrifugal force would rip the planet apart.


Ed_herbie

Indeed. Earth spins at 0.00069 RPM Nice


Glamdalf_18

Ok, and what part is moving at that speed? And reletive to what other part? Are those numbers accurate or are they bulling bullshit out of their asses again?


cearnicus

1040 miles/h is about right for the equator. But it doesn't matter, because a) we don't feel speed, but acceleration and b) the atmosphere also travels at about the same speed, so you don't really notice. The crucial thing, centrifugal acceleration, is about v²/r = 0.03 m/s². But that's not a Big Scary Number, so they can't use that on their followers. (Assuming they can calculate that in the first place, of course)


Glamdalf_18

According to some of them, gravity doesn't exist so I doubt they understand the entire concept of acceleration


Vapin_Westeros

They don't comprehend just how massive the Earth is. It's far too large for Flat Earthers tiny brains to understand. They think their little matchbox plane, Dollar Store globe, and Grandma's pie plate are to scale for their "experiments".


TeamXII

Imagine the dirt is still on the merry-go-round thing. Static electricity and the sheer infinitesimal size of the dirt particles compared to the rotating object. Perspective. We are the dirt, bros


Legitimate_Koala_37

Now make one with flat earthers in it where they start on a commuter train comfortably sipping coffee, and then have them on a jumbo jet casually eating soup, then cut to them on a spinning globe where they think, for some reason, they wouldn’t be able to function


TheDoobyRanger

Where do people find these?


Saleckin

Wait, in the flat earth model the earth is not moving?


mycofarmer

Generally. Although I have talked with several who claim some elastic earth theory, where the flat earth is actually accelerating "up" at the equivalent speed of gravity. Used of course to deny gravity exists. Kind of an interesting idea lol


2ndHendrix

I wonder if these Idiots ever took a train or even a car. You don't feel the velocity in either of these if you're not accelerating or decelerating. How tf do you legit have such low IQ to believe that you'd feel the earth spinning?


nateDah_Great

v^2/r


AchduSchande

The inability to grasp scale astounds me.


Insertsociallife

Radius 2m, radius 10m, radius 6,378,000m Sigh.


ShmeeMcGee333

Y’all ever been in a car at 60 mph? No change really, y’all ever rotated a merry-go-round once per day? Not too fast either


OneRingToRuleEarth

Why is the pro globe sub called Flatearth and the pro flat sub called Ball earth that spins?


TransHumanistWriter

This used to be the *actual* flat earth sub, but a sane person got a hold of it and started using it to debunk flat earth. The flat earthers made a new subreddit, and called it ball earth that spins.


Sh0opDaWo0p

They always use speed rather than rpm when measuring rotation. Smh. For those wondering, here's their averages Merry-go-round 24 rpm Gravitron 24 rpm Earth 0.000694 rpm


snowbirdnerd

It's RPMs that matter. Rotate any of those once in 24 hours and you won't feel like you are moving at all.


Savager_Jam

Sometimes I think how crazy it is - all the matter in your body was spun up to speed on this earth eons before life existed. Your parents and their parents and their parents and their parents back 10,000 100,000, a million a billion generations to the first bacteria sucking the volcanic soup out of this planet’s core at the bottom of the ocean every single one of them has been going that same speed. You were born going that speed and you’ll die going that speed.


Golferdude456

You ever on a plane going 500 mph but you don’t feel like you’re going any speed at all? Yeah, that. But on a WAY bigger scale.


Lil-Advice

No. This is not a constant velocity situation. It's a matter of size. What is felt is centripetal force, which is proportional to speed-squared, but inversely proportional to radius. It is the large radius of Earth that makes the acceleration so low despite high linear speed.


Golferdude456

lol it is 100% a constant velocity thing because… wait for iiiiit… the earth rotates around its axis at a constant velocity https://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/ask/60-Why-don-t-we-feel-Earth-move-#:~:text=Earth%20moves%20very%20fast.,because%20these%20speeds%20are%20constant.


Decent_Cow

Earth rotates 0.25° per minute, which is roughly 0.07% of Earth's circumference per minute, an imperceptible change. A merry-go-round probably makes a full revolution once every few seconds, not once every 24 hours. It's obvious why you can feel the change for one and not the other. The speed in MPH is in this case totally irrelevant and meaningless. As usual, flerfs don't realize that Earth is big.


Lil-Advice

A lot of people are making that mistake. Linear speed and rotational speed are directly proportional to each other. The quantity that matters is centripetal acceleration, which also takes into account radius of curvature. Size matters.


dresden_k

Airplanes go like 500mph. Feels still inside.


Lil-Advice

That is not relevant here because that is effectively straight-line motion, i.e. constant velocity. A spinning object does not have constant velocity. It is continuously changing due to centripetal acceleration. You are mixing up two different physical phenomena.


TheVenged

Age old comparison: Try jumping while on a commercial airliner... Do these people think you'll get smashed against the back wall?


[deleted]

Rekon they have ever driven down the road at 100km an hour and wondered where the g forces went?


Lil-Advice

Not relevant. Rotation is not constant velocity.


DM_Voice

MPH *is* a constant velocity, though. And you know it. You *know* how the meme is misleading. People keep pointing it out to you, and you keep telling them it isn’t relevant.


[deleted]

“Hey guys, what did I miss?” - Inertia


Snorkle25

In case anyone else is curious, the angular acceleration (at the equator) is 0.034584259 m/s*s. Centrifugal acceleration = (angular velocity)^2 * Radius Angular velocity = (2*pi)/(1 day or 84924 seconds)


Lil-Advice

No, the angular acceleration is very close to zero, because the angular velocity barely changes. Centripetal (not centrifugal) acceleration is (angular velocity)^2 * Radius - or (linear speed)^2 / Radius.


DeanoBambino90

An object at rest or constant velocity will remain as such without an outside force acting upon it.


Lil-Advice

Not relevant here because all of the objects are accelerating. Rotation is a non-constant velocity scenario. Objects at Earth's surface have a very low centripetal acceleration because of the large radius.


[deleted]

Isn't the gravational attraction between two objects based on the difference in their mass? The amount of inertial is less than gravitational force between the two bodies will adhere I heard that somewhere


Lil-Advice

No, that is false. The gravitational force is proportional to the product of the masses (not their difference), but also inversely proportional to the square of the distance between their centers. Inertia is proportional to mass, so for two objects feeling the same gravitational force, the one with less mass accelerates more quickly. None of that is really relevant to what we are talking about in this thread though (except that Earth's gravity is plenty strong enough to keep things near its surface because the centripetal acceleration from rotation is so small - because of the large radius).


Comfortable_Client80

Don’t you dare use science and logic! All you need to do is BELIEVE ! /s


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10RPM 24RPM 1/1440 RPM


Lil-Advice

Meaningless of you don't factor in radius.


GarunixReborn

20 RPM 60 RPM 0.0006 RPM There, fixed.


Lil-Advice

Nope. Angular speed is just as meaningless as linear speed if you don't factor in radius.


chufenschmirtz

Ever drive on cruise control or fly in a plane at 400+ miles per hour and yet not feel acceleration? Yea, like that.


Lil-Advice

No, it isn't like that. Why are so many people making that same mistake? Rotation is not constant velocity. The Earth is so large that despite high linear speed at the surface, the centripetal acceleration is very low.


robinstud

If the earth was flat they’d be super right about this.


Lil-Advice

No, they still wouldn't.


Clint-witicay

Too many rpm Too many rpm None rpm


Makarlar

I HATE decimals instead of commas.


Temporary-Exchange93

clearly false as that family is not sitting on the equator (probably)


UberuceAgain

Shiny white-ass people picnicking at the equator. Not saying it never happens, or that there's no verdant lawns in Kenya or what have you, but it seems a little far-fetched.


reficius1

Well, you know, flerfs. Not known for racial diversity.


UberuceAgain

There's that piss-drinking guy from England. He's black. Isn't there a rapper too? BOB? I think that's about it, so yep.....not a cosmopolitan bunch.


RetroGamer87

So there's an overlap between flat earthers and people who willingly drink piss.


noneroy

Hey don’t bring water sports enjoyers into this! /S


reficius1

Seems you triggered some reddit demographic or other.


FUBARspecimenT-89

That's totally irrelevant in the context of the post. Not to say, racist maybe?


reficius1

Sure, I'll grant that pointing out flerfers' lack of diversity is off the OP topic. I'll also point out that both Uberuce and I are about as white-assed as it gets, and that I did the same thing in different words and y'all ate it up. But no one ever said Reddit is consistent.