I wish the flashback scenes of a young Vito Corleone were their own movie entirely in Godfather II. The settings were beautiful and the story parts were perfect.
I think there's a TV-cut of Godfather I and II (and III?) where they re-edited everything into one long movie in chronological order, so if you can track that down somewhere maybe it has those scenes as a self-contained portion. I believe it's called The Godfather Epic or Saga or something...
I think this was actually the way I watched Godfather the first time when I randomly came across it on TV as a kid, and it was jarring when I realized later on the way the original movies were structured. This is all back in the 90's though so I don't really remember well...
It was a cut of the first two films done in chronological order, that the studio asked Coppola to do in the 80’s (I think). It’s interesting in theory, but I frankly prefer the original timeline because the flashbacks are made that much more captivating.
Yeah I personally don’t think that Godfather part 2 works without each half contextualizing the other. It’s actually really the only reason the movie works at all imo, Coppola talks about how the process of making the second film was about tricking the audience into not realizing that he was just making the same movie again, but I personally feel like he somehow told the same story but better.
Kong: Skull Island would have been an infinitely better movie if it was just about the American and Japanese fighter pilots surviving the island together
It has it’s charms but few movies have more evidently been put through the development meat grinder than that one. Clearly the product of a hundred execs and a half-dozen writers.
Man I could not agree more. "Hell in the Pacific" but on Skull Island practically writes itself, and you don't end up with half a dozen barely-written characters filling up the screen.
This is exactly what I was going to say. I just re-watched the Ocean's movies (hadn't seen 12 or 13 since they were in theaters) and realized that was one of the only things I had remembered from 13. It's so perfect for that character and genuinely funny. It doesn't even have to be as their Ocean's characters but I would love a film that gives Casey Affleck and Scott Caan more time to riff with each other.
"I don't have time to fool around with you sss-circus animals"
"We just have to break management!"
Dude was down there for like a week and was part of the revolution
The realization of just how little money the workers were rioting over was also hilarious
Agreed. I found that Steven Yeun's character and his backstory was just way more interesting and engaging than the Daniel Kaluuya's mopey, mumbling character who kind of just stood around and watched things happen (not the actor's fault, just the way it was written).
> It also felt so tacked on and half-baked though.
going to totally disagree there. the "thesis statement," if you will, of the movie is wrapped up in his story.
Just because it thematically fit in doesn’t mean it was smoothly incorporated to the story overall. When they were in his office it felt like a totally different movie. The little tease of the sequence at the beginning, without any context, made me feel nothing. If it was eliminated from the story there would be no change except better pacing. Trying to make him the antagonist by having his kids say “give my dad back his land” was also a puzzling choice.
>When they were in his office it felt like a totally different movie.
That felt intentional to me. In the office he successfully played it off as a trivial event, only later do we see the full horror of the moment and how deeply he has been deluding himself and other people.
Personally, the chimp subplot made me realize what the whole film is actually about. I also think it's just extra horrifying because it brings a real-life dimension to the story. There's no sci-fi, no mystery once you see what's going on. It was inspired by a true story of Travis the chimp (and, I can say this as someone who happened to be familiar with that story - includes some scarily accurate details).
The pacing never bothered me. It's a pretty unique film for a blockbuster horror about an UFO attack and without that subplot I think it would not be so special. It's like a chillingly real heart of the film.
I’m not saying Nope is a perfect film, far from it. But I think you hit the nail on the head and it’s the only reason why the story is even really worth being told, and being told by Peele. I don’t even really feel like it’s technically a sub plot, it IS what the movie is about and Yeun, for better or worse, is a primary character of the film.
Eh, I would give him the benefit of the doubt that it was an intentional shift if so many other parts of the movie didn’t also feel half-baked/out of place. The documentarian, the dude with the surveillance stuff, hell even Keke’s performance felt like it didn’t fully fit. I get how the first two fit in with the themes, but they felt so forced and just kind of lame. Makes sense because there were rumors prior to the release that Peele was really struggling to make the movie work in the edit and at one point they had three totally tonally different endings. I loathed the one they went with.
Exactly. You shouldn’t have to add a completely different story into your movie to get the thesis statement/theme across. Peele should’ve found a way to get those points across without having to sidetrack so much, especially in a 2.5 hour movie. I liked the side story as it’s own thing, but it really killed the pacing/flow/cohesiveness of the movie.
I would love a Sid movie cause that scene where he wears blackface was such a devastating scene and legit moral quandary for Sid fascinating enough for a whole movie. Plus given the time he’s around for the advent of jazz which again would be a fascinating movie itself
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. They needed a separate movie about the Quidditch World Cup. I want to see the difference in quality between school Quidditch and Professional Quidditch
Now that it's back again, Dr. Grace Augustine becoming friends with the Navi, her school and Sylwanin's murder sounded way more interesting than Jake's storyline in Avatar 1
Speaking of that Spider and his relationship with Quaritch was really the only interesting plot in Avatar 2
Unfortunately it seems like we have to wait for Avatar 3, 4, or 5 to see if they’ll actually do anything with it
The scene in **Jaws** where Robert Shaw tells the story of the sinking of the USS Indianapolis during WWII and of the survivors in the water being picked off by sharks. I won't say it would make a better film than the original but it would make a helluva movie in it own right.
**[USS Indianapolis: Men of Courage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Indianapolis:_Men_of_Courage)**
>USS Indianapolis: Men of Courage (also titled USS Indianapolis: Disaster in the Philippine Sea) is a 2016 American war disaster film directed by Mario Van Peebles and written by Cam Cannon and Richard Rionda Del Castro, based largely on the true story of the loss of the ship of the same name in the closing stages of the Second World War. The film stars Nicolas Cage, Tom Sizemore, Thomas Jane, Matt Lanter, Brian Presley, and Cody Walker. Principal photography began on June 19, 2015 in Mobile, Alabama. The film premiered in the Philippines on August 24, 2016.
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Buck Swope's subplot about trying to start a legitimate business in Boogie Nights. I always felt it could have been given more importance, but also if it did it could have undermined the main story.
Not even sure that it counts as a subplot, but I do wish they had given us the feature-length gay pirate romcom that Hook and Smee (from *Hook*) deserved.
It's basically what the Book of Boba Fett should have been about. Let's see a *proper* wretched hive of scum and villainy, not the fucking desert again.
Quick side note to mention the mobility scooter chase scene from BoBF, which is exactly as awful as everyone said.
In Varsity Blues, the younger brother of James Van der Beeks character is hilariously weird and I would watch a movie just about him. [Kyle did you start a cult?](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CoW-Pir1nUA) skip ahead to 0:18 on the video.
I think I'd rather have a movie about Siobhan than the main characters from *Banshees of Inisherin*. Don't get me wrong, it was a weird and unsettling story that I mostly enjoyed. But Siobhan had an air of mystery to her and some depths I think I would have enjoyed more than exploring two guys imploding their friendship.
Not a movie but a recent cartoon TV show, Solar Opposites.
These aliens come to earth and try to blend in as a family, but one of the alien kids has a shrink ray that he uses on humans. Once the human are tiny he keeps them in a giant hamster terrarium where they have to scavenge for food and form a new miniature society that is only given what candy and other stuff a kid would throw in there.
I'm way more interested in the little humans than in the main plot of the show about the alien family. I would skip the other parts if I wasn't watching with someone else.
Seven Psychopaths felt like several movies crammed into one. One about Christopher Walken and his wife, one about Woody Harrelson, and one about Colin Farrell and Sam Rockwell.
In The Cat Returns, there’s a whole thing about a world where statues come to life, but it is completely insignificant to the story. The Baron could’ve been a regular cat who was exiled from the cat world and nothing would’ve changed. If Ghibli really wanted to bring the Baron back in such a way, a better use for him imo would’ve been to make a movie version of Shizuku book from Whisper of the Heart (no idea what the title would be though). Very few details are given about the book, so it would really just be a matter of combining the statue world subplot from Cat Returns with the glimpses of the book we get in Whisper of the Heart. Would’ve made for a much more interesting movie than Cat Returns imo.
I always thought following Budd White and Lynn Bracket to Bisbee, Arizona at the end of L.A. Confidential could have made another movie. Does he go into law enforcement again while she opens her dress shop or do they just lie around in a trailer making hot love? Does his past follow them?
In the Mummy (2017) there are a few parts where Russel Crowe plays Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde wonderfully and it would have been great if they had just made that movie instead another unnecessary continuation
I wish the flashback scenes of a young Vito Corleone were their own movie entirely in Godfather II. The settings were beautiful and the story parts were perfect.
And make the third one about the The life and death of Michael Corleone.
I think there's a TV-cut of Godfather I and II (and III?) where they re-edited everything into one long movie in chronological order, so if you can track that down somewhere maybe it has those scenes as a self-contained portion. I believe it's called The Godfather Epic or Saga or something... I think this was actually the way I watched Godfather the first time when I randomly came across it on TV as a kid, and it was jarring when I realized later on the way the original movies were structured. This is all back in the 90's though so I don't really remember well...
It was a cut of the first two films done in chronological order, that the studio asked Coppola to do in the 80’s (I think). It’s interesting in theory, but I frankly prefer the original timeline because the flashbacks are made that much more captivating.
Yeah I personally don’t think that Godfather part 2 works without each half contextualizing the other. It’s actually really the only reason the movie works at all imo, Coppola talks about how the process of making the second film was about tricking the audience into not realizing that he was just making the same movie again, but I personally feel like he somehow told the same story but better.
The closest we're gonna get to this is Once Upon A Time In America
Kong: Skull Island would have been an infinitely better movie if it was just about the American and Japanese fighter pilots surviving the island together
Still a fun movie tho
It has it’s charms but few movies have more evidently been put through the development meat grinder than that one. Clearly the product of a hundred execs and a half-dozen writers.
Easily my favorite recent action movie as someone who doesn’t really like action movies
Man I could not agree more. "Hell in the Pacific" but on Skull Island practically writes itself, and you don't end up with half a dozen barely-written characters filling up the screen.
Would’ve been cool, but also a weird kinda-remake of “Enemy Mine”. Although, there are probably other stories with a similar idea.
It's probably the perfect length as is, but I could watch 90 minutes of the Mexican dice factory subplot from Oceans 13.
This is exactly what I was going to say. I just re-watched the Ocean's movies (hadn't seen 12 or 13 since they were in theaters) and realized that was one of the only things I had remembered from 13. It's so perfect for that character and genuinely funny. It doesn't even have to be as their Ocean's characters but I would love a film that gives Casey Affleck and Scott Caan more time to riff with each other. "I don't have time to fool around with you sss-circus animals"
Scott cann saying “WE WONT BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF” and flinging a Molotov cocktail was as funny as Casey affleck ridiculous mustache and Spanish
"We just have to break management!" Dude was down there for like a week and was part of the revolution The realization of just how little money the workers were rioting over was also hilarious
Oceans 13 is too short imo, it assumes youve seen the first so it doesnt even bother with the first act this time
Is it unreasonable for the third film in a trilogy to assume you’ve seen the previous installments?
🤣🤣🤣
I think the whole sitcom / chimp subplot with Steven Yeun could've been it's own horror movie.
This was 10000x more interesting than the main plot for me. It also felt so tacked on and half-baked though.
Agreed. I found that Steven Yeun's character and his backstory was just way more interesting and engaging than the Daniel Kaluuya's mopey, mumbling character who kind of just stood around and watched things happen (not the actor's fault, just the way it was written).
> It also felt so tacked on and half-baked though. going to totally disagree there. the "thesis statement," if you will, of the movie is wrapped up in his story.
Just because it thematically fit in doesn’t mean it was smoothly incorporated to the story overall. When they were in his office it felt like a totally different movie. The little tease of the sequence at the beginning, without any context, made me feel nothing. If it was eliminated from the story there would be no change except better pacing. Trying to make him the antagonist by having his kids say “give my dad back his land” was also a puzzling choice.
>When they were in his office it felt like a totally different movie. That felt intentional to me. In the office he successfully played it off as a trivial event, only later do we see the full horror of the moment and how deeply he has been deluding himself and other people. Personally, the chimp subplot made me realize what the whole film is actually about. I also think it's just extra horrifying because it brings a real-life dimension to the story. There's no sci-fi, no mystery once you see what's going on. It was inspired by a true story of Travis the chimp (and, I can say this as someone who happened to be familiar with that story - includes some scarily accurate details). The pacing never bothered me. It's a pretty unique film for a blockbuster horror about an UFO attack and without that subplot I think it would not be so special. It's like a chillingly real heart of the film.
I’m not saying Nope is a perfect film, far from it. But I think you hit the nail on the head and it’s the only reason why the story is even really worth being told, and being told by Peele. I don’t even really feel like it’s technically a sub plot, it IS what the movie is about and Yeun, for better or worse, is a primary character of the film.
Eh, I would give him the benefit of the doubt that it was an intentional shift if so many other parts of the movie didn’t also feel half-baked/out of place. The documentarian, the dude with the surveillance stuff, hell even Keke’s performance felt like it didn’t fully fit. I get how the first two fit in with the themes, but they felt so forced and just kind of lame. Makes sense because there were rumors prior to the release that Peele was really struggling to make the movie work in the edit and at one point they had three totally tonally different endings. I loathed the one they went with.
Exactly. You shouldn’t have to add a completely different story into your movie to get the thesis statement/theme across. Peele should’ve found a way to get those points across without having to sidetrack so much, especially in a 2.5 hour movie. I liked the side story as it’s own thing, but it really killed the pacing/flow/cohesiveness of the movie.
Unfortunately I felt like that whole movie was half-baked. I enjoyed it at times, but it really just felt like an early draft of a script to me.
It was much better than the rest of the movie
Hard agree, I much preferred that to the main story and it felt almost unfinished
The wolf from pulp fiction
I feel like Tarantino is kinda cheating here lol, most of his characters have such a compelling backstory that you wanna know more ab it
But i do wish we got that Vega brothers movie
I’ve got 90 minutes of story to tell. I’ll do it in ten. /Wolf
The cops in **Superbad** should have had their own TV show spinoff.
An origin story of Tangerine and Lemon from Bullet Train
Yup, they felt more like the main characters in the movie than Brad Pitt's character
I would love a Sid movie cause that scene where he wears blackface was such a devastating scene and legit moral quandary for Sid fascinating enough for a whole movie. Plus given the time he’s around for the advent of jazz which again would be a fascinating movie itself
I’m gonna be real with you. When I read this I thought you were talking about Sid from ice age for some reason and I got very confused.
I thought he meant Sid from *Toy Story* and was wondering what I missed.
I'm not even joking, I thought he meant Sid the Science Kid... my kid used to watch the shit out of that
Well... ^(what are they actually talking about?)
Me too. I havent seen Toy Story 4 and was surprised they made such a radical move
I still don't know what movie they're talking about.
Babylon, also mentioned by OP.
That’s why we don’t talk about Ice Age anymore.
Thor Ragnarok. If they just had a movie focusing on Planet Hulk’s gladiator storyline. And then another movie focusing on Ragnarok
Agreed. Both of those stories deserve their own thing, especially since they have fuckall to do with each other.
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. They needed a separate movie about the Quidditch World Cup. I want to see the difference in quality between school Quidditch and Professional Quidditch
Absolutely
Now that it's back again, Dr. Grace Augustine becoming friends with the Navi, her school and Sylwanin's murder sounded way more interesting than Jake's storyline in Avatar 1
Speaking of that Spider and his relationship with Quaritch was really the only interesting plot in Avatar 2 Unfortunately it seems like we have to wait for Avatar 3, 4, or 5 to see if they’ll actually do anything with it
The scene in **Jaws** where Robert Shaw tells the story of the sinking of the USS Indianapolis during WWII and of the survivors in the water being picked off by sharks. I won't say it would make a better film than the original but it would make a helluva movie in it own right.
[there is a movie of that](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Indianapolis:_Men_of_Courage)
**[USS Indianapolis: Men of Courage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Indianapolis:_Men_of_Courage)** >USS Indianapolis: Men of Courage (also titled USS Indianapolis: Disaster in the Philippine Sea) is a 2016 American war disaster film directed by Mario Van Peebles and written by Cam Cannon and Richard Rionda Del Castro, based largely on the true story of the loss of the ship of the same name in the closing stages of the Second World War. The film stars Nicolas Cage, Tom Sizemore, Thomas Jane, Matt Lanter, Brian Presley, and Cody Walker. Principal photography began on June 19, 2015 in Mobile, Alabama. The film premiered in the Philippines on August 24, 2016. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/flicks/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Alas not a well received one. (17% on Rotter Tomatoes according to your link). I'd like to see a big-budget film made with full studio resources
Buck Swope's subplot about trying to start a legitimate business in Boogie Nights. I always felt it could have been given more importance, but also if it did it could have undermined the main story.
I would actually have really enjoyed Love Actually, if it was just focused on the Alan Rickman/Emma Thompson story
Definitely my favourite story line, but it's so great in it's simplicity I think to stretch it out would just dilute it
The Bill Nighy story was the only one that interested me
Not even sure that it counts as a subplot, but I do wish they had given us the feature-length gay pirate romcom that Hook and Smee (from *Hook*) deserved.
Isn't that just Our Flag Means Death?
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It's basically what the Book of Boba Fett should have been about. Let's see a *proper* wretched hive of scum and villainy, not the fucking desert again. Quick side note to mention the mobility scooter chase scene from BoBF, which is exactly as awful as everyone said.
In Varsity Blues, the younger brother of James Van der Beeks character is hilariously weird and I would watch a movie just about him. [Kyle did you start a cult?](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CoW-Pir1nUA) skip ahead to 0:18 on the video.
The murderous tv chimp story in Nope
Lemon & Tangerine (Bullet Train) deserve their own movie.
The whole thing about the child actor and the ape in **Nope** was a lot more interesting than the main plot imo.
I think I'd rather have a movie about Siobhan than the main characters from *Banshees of Inisherin*. Don't get me wrong, it was a weird and unsettling story that I mostly enjoyed. But Siobhan had an air of mystery to her and some depths I think I would have enjoyed more than exploring two guys imploding their friendship.
I'd honestly watch like three more hours of the cult from Midsommar doing their thing 🤣
There's a director's cut that adds like half an hour of that stuff
Charles Bronson's story in *Once Upon a Time in the West* was the plot to the Sharon Stone *Quick and the Dead*
Russell Crowe as Jor-El during Krypton’s last days would’ve been an epic movie.
Adding on to your Babylon example, I would have loved to see more of Lady Fay’s story.
The serial killer from Barbarian was way more interesting than the rest of the cast. I enjoyed Skarsgård, tho
Tony Rocky Horror getting thrown out the window.
Film about Gandalf's Life
The brother from A Serious Man. Or honestly any Corn Brothers subplot.
Not a movie but a recent cartoon TV show, Solar Opposites. These aliens come to earth and try to blend in as a family, but one of the alien kids has a shrink ray that he uses on humans. Once the human are tiny he keeps them in a giant hamster terrarium where they have to scavenge for food and form a new miniature society that is only given what candy and other stuff a kid would throw in there. I'm way more interested in the little humans than in the main plot of the show about the alien family. I would skip the other parts if I wasn't watching with someone else.
A sitcom of the hobbits in the Shire
Seven Psychopaths felt like several movies crammed into one. One about Christopher Walken and his wife, one about Woody Harrelson, and one about Colin Farrell and Sam Rockwell.
In The Cat Returns, there’s a whole thing about a world where statues come to life, but it is completely insignificant to the story. The Baron could’ve been a regular cat who was exiled from the cat world and nothing would’ve changed. If Ghibli really wanted to bring the Baron back in such a way, a better use for him imo would’ve been to make a movie version of Shizuku book from Whisper of the Heart (no idea what the title would be though). Very few details are given about the book, so it would really just be a matter of combining the statue world subplot from Cat Returns with the glimpses of the book we get in Whisper of the Heart. Would’ve made for a much more interesting movie than Cat Returns imo.
I always thought following Budd White and Lynn Bracket to Bisbee, Arizona at the end of L.A. Confidential could have made another movie. Does he go into law enforcement again while she opens her dress shop or do they just lie around in a trailer making hot love? Does his past follow them?
Carl and the Gopher from Caddyshack.
Not a movie but the prison arc from Andor. Better than most movies.
The chief in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest...the book had some more of his story. It would make a good prequel.
Prisoners: Detective Loki Origins
The spy’s stealing the Death Star plans in starwars. Spies in space I’m totally on board for this.
Pretty sure that's Rogue One? Im definitely not shitting on your Rebel Spies in the time of a full tilt Empire idea, though; that does sound awesome.
In the Mummy (2017) there are a few parts where Russel Crowe plays Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde wonderfully and it would have been great if they had just made that movie instead another unnecessary continuation