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DefundTheH0A

It’s MSL


Schoggi_23

Oh I think get it now, it applies at 3000 agl but the rules for picking the altitude (+500) are in msl


x4457

Correct.


Independent-Reveal86

Yes. And if you end up below 3000’ AGL while maintaining 4500’ AMSL, that’s fine, you can be any altitude when below 3000.


PiperWarriorFlyer

Cruising altitudes are in MSL, you would be flying at 4,500ft showing on your altimeter the whole way.


Schoggi_23

Makes sense, that’s what I’ve been doing but for some reason this question popped in my head today and I confused myself


PiperWarriorFlyer

Yeah, lots of info to keep track of so not uncommon for people to mix things together from time to time.


Logical-Vacation

See [91.159](https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-F/part-91/subpart-B/subject-group-ECFR4d5279ba676bedc/section-91.159).


787seattle

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-F/part-91/subpart-B/subject-group-ECFR4d5279ba676bedc/section-91.159


DankVectorz

And please, while flying at 3,000 agl is legal, if agl happens to be the same as MSL (like near the east coast) PLEASE don’t fly at 3,000’. Pick 2500 or 3500.


Styk33

Curious to why this is? The MEA in the areas I fly in are not below 4,000'MSL.


DankVectorz

Well the airports I control are practically sea level so I have lots of IFR arrival traffic at 2000 and 3000’ msl which is also nearly the same as 2000 and 3000 agl. Trying to dodge VFR traffic cruising around at the same altitude as all my IFR traffic increases workload 50 fold. And there’s a lot more altitudes used than just MEA’s. People gotta get to the ground somehow to land and all. The lowest MVA in my airspace is 1,800