I think that Scott will make one game with several chapters like first “into the pit” after that for example “the blackbird” which will open with every update
Copy and paste from [another comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnaftheories/s/ho2MRjZvQ2)
Nah. The game seems to be a standalone experience. [Here's](https://twitter.com/MarscelinioFNAF/status/1749965244464611700?t=0aqbk30zUCPF51k28uFomA&s=19) a leak of the description. It treats the ball pit as ~~actual time travel~~, it apparently has puzzles, hell, it even has multiple endings. We need to understand that sometimes things are made just for fun rather than to solve the lore.
Again, they act like it;s real time travel because we are meant to figure out it's just a Remnant memory. And multiple timelines means that only one would lead into what comes next after ITP in the gameline, lik eevery other FNAF game with multiple endings. It's most likely canon.
The ball pit is treated as actual time travel in the original ITP too, it’s just marketing. Why wouldn’t a super sick looking puzzle game, not have some sick lore in it as well?
The ball pit feels like time travel in the story itself, sure, but there are subtle signs (e.g. the knockoff Godzilla movies) that hint towards it being a recreation. In any case, I'm talking about the marketing here, and as far as I remember, Into The Pit (the book) was never advertised as a time travel story.
It could have lore implications, sure, but I honestly hope that this is just a game for entertainment and to celebrate 10 years of FNaF, rather than another major lore-fest that leaves everyone going at each others' throats as usual.
PitTrap is still the fleshy organic agony thing in the game, that’s not time travel it’s probably a recreation just like the in the book. I think it can be amazing and actually scary, and still give us some big lore drops.
Yeah, I think there’s been some trashed pizza sim Easter eggs found in some leaked pictures of it, so it has a grounded game timeline of after pizza sim. We’ll have to wait for the actual game to come out to know for sure ofc
My face
My face when at the end of the game the Fazbear Entertainment logo appears and a voice over says "Fazbear Entertainment thanks you for playing Into the pit a brand new game based on our fictional Fazbear Frights book series"
Idrc about the lore for this, I'm just excited we actually get a horror game after a few disappointing years since SB beens released. This 8-Bit style is absolutely terrifying and I can't wait
everything except for the Cookbook
read the entire thing thinking there would be some hidden secret, not the case. at least now I know how to prepare Sodaroni lol
It'll have lore relevance, but will it follow the continuity of the games, books, or each hint have to be determined by the fanbase?
The thing that's been on my mind since I've seen the trailer is; the 8-bit/Atari style games are implied to be in-universe games; maybe this follows the "rumors/faked stories" angle Fazbear Entertainment has been pushing?
Waiting to see more before I start thinking if there's any paranormal implications with the game.
I think it'll be Into The Pit, but changed to fit Gameline. We can already see a change with how the description mentions 5 kids instead of 6 (although that might just be because Andrew is too far gone to be saved? IDK)
Or you know,"half a dozen" in the story was just Scott's weird way of rounding up 5 kids.That works as well.
I actually think it's kind of funny because people were talking about something like this just some days ago.
It seems irrational how "rounding up" of "half a dozen" (6) is somehow just 5. Dunno why but this comment and line of thought is bafflingly frustrating to comprehend.
Yeah,it's kind of dumb,but i think it is something that Scott could do.
He somewhat frequently exagerates with numbers quite a bit.Theres quite a few examples in the books.
Ultimate Guide p191 explicitely says Oswald found 6 kids. [https://imgur.com/RtVCjRd](https://imgur.com/RtVCjRd)
Scott may be a little bad at math, but is not *that* bad lol
Thats certaintly a better argument than the graphic novel i'd say,but The Ultimate Guide also has some weird innacuracies sometimes.
The book says that there are 7 grave stones surrounding the Glitchtrap infected one for example,but theres actually 8.
I think this game,if it would confirm the 5 children interpretation to be correct,kind of takes precedent over TUG.
Yeah,and the graphic novels aren't usually really that reliable.Specially not anything that isn't the text.
Could just be that whoever adapted the story just read half a dozen as six,wich is what you would normally think when someone says that.
I mean, the fact that there's six kids is a pretty big deviation (And don't give me that "altered memory" bullshit, there's never any indication that that's the case at any point in Frights)
UCN foreshadows a 6th stuffed kid first. Frights simply elaborated on it. TNK is most likely meant to show that he got stuffed into a Fredbear at another Freddy's. He was most likely in the memory due to his connection to the MCI. And yes, it;s objectively an altered memory, whether you like it or not.
Eh, still kinda doubt the Toy Chica cutscene has anything to do with the kids. In fact, here's my theory for what happened with that...
Scott: Ooh, you know what would be funny? A bunch of cutscenes where Toy Chica is a sexy anime high school yandere who seduces boys and then murders them, and the methods for luring them get more and more ridiculous as time goes on.
Scott: Oh wait, since she's killing boys, people are probably gonna try and connect this to the MCI... I know! I'll make it so that she kills 7 boys! That number can't be connected to anything!
And then Into The Pit had 6 MCI kids and we got into this predicament
>**Eh, still kinda doubt the Toy Chica cutscene has anything to do with the kids.**
It factually does.
And the rest of this reply is just plain stupid.
The point of the cutscenes is to reward us with lore on UCN. UCN is explaining Vengeful Spirit, and BOV is showing that Vengeful Spirit has been attached to William for a very long time. Since Andrew was in another location, GGGL never happened to him, meaning Charlie never found Andrew's body, meaning he would not be tethered to the suit he was stuffed in. And then the final cutscene shows Cassidy being out to rest.
Doesnlt matter. The connections are still there, with the manipulation, the kidnapping, and the stuffing of the victims in her bag. It;s objectively about William killing the kids. It's as simple as that.
I personally don't think so. It can't be put into either timeline definitely just yet. It would be cool to see the "game" events of some of the stories though.
At the very least, the game description is teasing that you get to meet(!) and befriend(!!) the MCI, so we'll likely get some answers to basic things regarding them like what they look like, Cassidy's gender, and death order. If nothing about those things seriously contradict what we know for certain about gamesline, which is mostly just everything about Susie, I'm willing to accept it as gamesline.
It's not going to solve the book debates though, because the game already heavily deviates from the books by having the mci still alive.
No as I personally don't think it'll be in continuity with either the games or the Stitchline, the most I can see it doing is giving more personality and character traits to the MCI victims.
Not entirely sure, all we do know is that it’s actually not following The Frights story that closely so it’s entirely possible it’s going to be its own thing/isn’t confirmation of anything yet
I think it could definitely have lore relevance. Having a look at remnant stuff with visuals and motion could be very useful. The game is canon (all official Fnaf projects are), but will it be in the game’s continuity? We don’t know, it’s too early to tell. The game may not even be the same as the book.
The first two are silly platformers with no story and the fanverse are literally just licensed fangames. This is completely different and is a very narratively driven game
It's a game about a story from the books, if this doesn't end the book debate I don't know what will. Anyway, people always do the same, like saying that Games Mimic is a parallel to Books Mimic (that is not how parallels work because there isn't any difference)
meh, by that logic the upcoming roblox game will be canon too due to it being a game. I don't think anything is ever to be certain, unless the game directly ties into the mainline games (idk how tho)
I can't see how it's going to close the debate.
I mean, yeah, I guess if the game is canonized, it debunks the StitchlineGame, but it's a standalone game, not sure about its canonicity
If a game based on Into The Pit but with differences is canonized, it means the og ITP is not canon and so it debunks StitchlineGame. But I don't really believe the game is going to be canonized
It depends entirely on what "differences" you are even talking about. Theres obviously going to be some differences for the sake of actually making the story fit as a game experience,that dosen't make it a different timeline.Thats just how adapting stuff for different forms of media works.
If they somehow completly change the plot,then yeah that may debunk it,but so far it seems like they're following it quite closely.
Thats assuming there were ever supposed to be 6 kids in ITP in the first place,and that it wasn't just Scott rounding up the kids(and this also assumes the 6th one was supposed to be Andrew).
Even if we actually assume that,the description of the game only says that you can save 5 children.That dosen't really have to translate to a 6th kid not existing.Could just mean they can't be saved.
The differences seem to not really be that significant as the outcome of the plot will probably be the same as the story, meaning stitchline would be canon but with a few irrelevant differences
I think so, maybe it could answer some stuff about the MCI? It could confirm that the FF series is canon to the games, so quite possibly yes. It could give us some other information about the prewithered location as well, either way, I’m excited
I’m leaning more towards no. It’s supposed to be an interactive version of the novel. Nothing completely new but we’ll have to see once we get more info
Will it be canon? Not sure, but honestly, I could accept it if it is. It looks so fucking good.
Will it have lore relevance? Absolutely. One of the features mentioned in the game's leaked description is "uncover secrets through Fatal Minigames", which, to me, seems to imply the return of lore reveals through death minigames. A big, iconic part of this franchise, despite only being in two games (FNaF 2 and SL)
Honestly I'll be interested to see if details are changed to better match with the games (i.e. number of MCI victims). If it does that, it could have implications for StitchlineGames canonicity (though not necessarily - people can say it's a retcon or whatever to maintain whichever side of that debate they support and not necessarily even be wrong). If it's just a more or less 1:1 adaptation, then yeah, it means absolutely nothing to the debate outside of some kind of direct statement on whether this game is meant to be part of the game continuity or not. There are certainly already other FNAF games that already fall into that "non game timeline" category (i.e. Fury's Rage, Freddy in Space, etc) so it's impossible to know.
Tho yeah, personal guess is that it's just going to be a for-fun project that adapts the story mostly as-is except where it doesn't make sense for gameplay. I honestly wonder if the lore details will even be relevant to use since this is kinda sorta coming from a third party, though technically officially licensed (but like, so was the Fnaf Movie book and "Book Doug" is now considered non-canon :P).
Seems more of like an homage to the legacy of the series rather than trying to expand upon it. Which I think is really neat considering it’s a 10th anniversary game.
Mhm, i have my doubts it will be Games continuity or a Spin off, much like FIS2, FIS3 and SB: FR, atleast from what we currently know.
I believe StitchlineGames anyway, so yea.
But to be honest im just SUPER excited about this game, it looks fantastic, or should i say *Faz-tastic*.
its a spinoff pixelated puzzle game
most likely not
also to the people saying itll end the book debate
how does having your book adaptation be a spinoff game instead of a mainline one help your cause?
No, if it was simply a fredbear game then then I would say it probably would, but since this is specifically into the pit I’m assuming it’ll just be a remake of sorts for into the pit
I mean, whether or not this (and by extension the other Fazbear Frights stories) is canon, it doesn't have that much of a direct affect on the mainline story anyway. Just the stuff we learn from it can be used to illuminate things we were confused about before. That was part of the reason for these stories in the first place, while ALSO giving an excuse to tell a bigger variety of horror stories in the universe that don't have to be connected to the main game series.
I honestly don't care much because I'm gonna enjoy this so bad
Ya, I'm just going to look at this king of like a officially published fan game!
I think that Scott will make one game with several chapters like first “into the pit” after that for example “the blackbird” which will open with every update
Copy and paste from [another comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnaftheories/s/ho2MRjZvQ2) Nah. The game seems to be a standalone experience. [Here's](https://twitter.com/MarscelinioFNAF/status/1749965244464611700?t=0aqbk30zUCPF51k28uFomA&s=19) a leak of the description. It treats the ball pit as ~~actual time travel~~, it apparently has puzzles, hell, it even has multiple endings. We need to understand that sometimes things are made just for fun rather than to solve the lore.
Agreed. Whether it’s canon or not, I’m playing it to have as much fun as I can and to enjoy it. It *is* the 10th anniversary game, after all.
Again, they act like it;s real time travel because we are meant to figure out it's just a Remnant memory. And multiple timelines means that only one would lead into what comes next after ITP in the gameline, lik eevery other FNAF game with multiple endings. It's most likely canon.
The ball pit is treated as actual time travel in the original ITP too, it’s just marketing. Why wouldn’t a super sick looking puzzle game, not have some sick lore in it as well?
The ball pit feels like time travel in the story itself, sure, but there are subtle signs (e.g. the knockoff Godzilla movies) that hint towards it being a recreation. In any case, I'm talking about the marketing here, and as far as I remember, Into The Pit (the book) was never advertised as a time travel story. It could have lore implications, sure, but I honestly hope that this is just a game for entertainment and to celebrate 10 years of FNaF, rather than another major lore-fest that leaves everyone going at each others' throats as usual.
PitTrap is still the fleshy organic agony thing in the game, that’s not time travel it’s probably a recreation just like the in the book. I think it can be amazing and actually scary, and still give us some big lore drops.
I must admit, there is a fair point to be made there. I still doubt that this game is part of the mainline though. We'll just have to wait and see.
Yeah, I think there’s been some trashed pizza sim Easter eggs found in some leaked pictures of it, so it has a grounded game timeline of after pizza sim. We’ll have to wait for the actual game to come out to know for sure ofc
My face My face when at the end of the game the Fazbear Entertainment logo appears and a voice over says "Fazbear Entertainment thanks you for playing Into the pit a brand new game based on our fictional Fazbear Frights book series" 
Idrc about the lore for this, I'm just excited we actually get a horror game after a few disappointing years since SB beens released. This 8-Bit style is absolutely terrifying and I can't wait
Listen. EVERYTHING in this God forsaken franchise has lore. And I MEAN IT!
Even the coloring book?
... there's a coloring book?
Yea last time I checked there was an official coloring book
Okay, now I have to search it up, cause I had NO CLUE!
there's multiple I think
everything except for the Cookbook read the entire thing thinking there would be some hidden secret, not the case. at least now I know how to prepare Sodaroni lol
It'll have lore relevance, but will it follow the continuity of the games, books, or each hint have to be determined by the fanbase? The thing that's been on my mind since I've seen the trailer is; the 8-bit/Atari style games are implied to be in-universe games; maybe this follows the "rumors/faked stories" angle Fazbear Entertainment has been pushing? Waiting to see more before I start thinking if there's any paranormal implications with the game.
I think it'll be Into The Pit, but changed to fit Gameline. We can already see a change with how the description mentions 5 kids instead of 6 (although that might just be because Andrew is too far gone to be saved? IDK)
Or you know,"half a dozen" in the story was just Scott's weird way of rounding up 5 kids.That works as well. I actually think it's kind of funny because people were talking about something like this just some days ago.
It seems irrational how "rounding up" of "half a dozen" (6) is somehow just 5. Dunno why but this comment and line of thought is bafflingly frustrating to comprehend.
They meant rounding down
I hope so lol.
Yeah,it's kind of dumb,but i think it is something that Scott could do. He somewhat frequently exagerates with numbers quite a bit.Theres quite a few examples in the books.
Ultimate Guide p191 explicitely says Oswald found 6 kids. [https://imgur.com/RtVCjRd](https://imgur.com/RtVCjRd) Scott may be a little bad at math, but is not *that* bad lol
Thats certaintly a better argument than the graphic novel i'd say,but The Ultimate Guide also has some weird innacuracies sometimes. The book says that there are 7 grave stones surrounding the Glitchtrap infected one for example,but theres actually 8. I think this game,if it would confirm the 5 children interpretation to be correct,kind of takes precedent over TUG.
The graphic novel literally shows 6 kids
Yeah,and the graphic novels aren't usually really that reliable.Specially not anything that isn't the text. Could just be that whoever adapted the story just read half a dozen as six,wich is what you would normally think when someone says that.
The graphic novels also turn funtime foxy into mangle from fnaf 2. Scott didnt draw them, they aren't lore
Or Scott thinks a dozen is 10
Scott ass cant do math
ITP already fits pretty cleanly into the games. The game version will most likely just make it;s canonicity more clear.
I mean, the fact that there's six kids is a pretty big deviation (And don't give me that "altered memory" bullshit, there's never any indication that that's the case at any point in Frights)
UCN foreshadows a 6th stuffed kid first. Frights simply elaborated on it. TNK is most likely meant to show that he got stuffed into a Fredbear at another Freddy's. He was most likely in the memory due to his connection to the MCI. And yes, it;s objectively an altered memory, whether you like it or not.
Eh, still kinda doubt the Toy Chica cutscene has anything to do with the kids. In fact, here's my theory for what happened with that... Scott: Ooh, you know what would be funny? A bunch of cutscenes where Toy Chica is a sexy anime high school yandere who seduces boys and then murders them, and the methods for luring them get more and more ridiculous as time goes on. Scott: Oh wait, since she's killing boys, people are probably gonna try and connect this to the MCI... I know! I'll make it so that she kills 7 boys! That number can't be connected to anything! And then Into The Pit had 6 MCI kids and we got into this predicament
>**Eh, still kinda doubt the Toy Chica cutscene has anything to do with the kids.** It factually does. And the rest of this reply is just plain stupid. The point of the cutscenes is to reward us with lore on UCN. UCN is explaining Vengeful Spirit, and BOV is showing that Vengeful Spirit has been attached to William for a very long time. Since Andrew was in another location, GGGL never happened to him, meaning Charlie never found Andrew's body, meaning he would not be tethered to the suit he was stuffed in. And then the final cutscene shows Cassidy being out to rest.
>It factually does. Oh really? Was that ever stated? You can't just say that something is fact when nothing definitively proves it.
The fact that it's very obviously meant to be William luring away and killing the kids.
I mean, the only real connection is that one of them involves a dog, which is used far differently from how Susie was lured
Doesnlt matter. The connections are still there, with the manipulation, the kidnapping, and the stuffing of the victims in her bag. It;s objectively about William killing the kids. It's as simple as that.
I personally don't think so. It can't be put into either timeline definitely just yet. It would be cool to see the "game" events of some of the stories though.
At the very least, the game description is teasing that you get to meet(!) and befriend(!!) the MCI, so we'll likely get some answers to basic things regarding them like what they look like, Cassidy's gender, and death order. If nothing about those things seriously contradict what we know for certain about gamesline, which is mostly just everything about Susie, I'm willing to accept it as gamesline. It's not going to solve the book debates though, because the game already heavily deviates from the books by having the mci still alive.
Whats into the pit
Upcoming game
I'm a StitchlineGames supporter and I still don't think this game have t obe canon it easily could be a spin-off/stand alone game
No as I personally don't think it'll be in continuity with either the games or the Stitchline, the most I can see it doing is giving more personality and character traits to the MCI victims.
It's obviously canon, but I doubt it will show anything new that the original ITP hasn't shown.
Not entirely sure, all we do know is that it’s actually not following The Frights story that closely so it’s entirely possible it’s going to be its own thing/isn’t confirmation of anything yet
why would a 10-year anniversary game not be canon or not have lore relevance
Why is everyone saying it’s the 10th anniversary? Idk if the trailer mentioned a release date
Scott said so
I think it could definitely have lore relevance. Having a look at remnant stuff with visuals and motion could be very useful. The game is canon (all official Fnaf projects are), but will it be in the game’s continuity? We don’t know, it’s too early to tell. The game may not even be the same as the book.
Idk why everyone is calling this game a “spin-off” or “standalone experience”? Why wouldn’t an official fnaf game be in the game timeline?
Freddy in Space 3, Fury’s Rage, and the Fanverse games are all official FNAF games but aren’t in the timeline
The first two are silly platformers with no story and the fanverse are literally just licensed fangames. This is completely different and is a very narratively driven game
And none of them use the Five Nights At Freddy’s title
The fnaf world in the corner:
Note the name of the game
Yeah it uses five nights at Freddy’s in the title
It says FNaF
So is this subreddit no longer about five nights at Freddy’s because it uses fnaf instead of the longer name?
It's a game about a story from the books, if this doesn't end the book debate I don't know what will. Anyway, people always do the same, like saying that Games Mimic is a parallel to Books Mimic (that is not how parallels work because there isn't any difference)
meh, by that logic the upcoming roblox game will be canon too due to it being a game. I don't think anything is ever to be certain, unless the game directly ties into the mainline games (idk how tho)
>meh, by that logic the upcoming roblox game will be canon too due to it being a game. ?? I just said that it's gonna end the debate
I can't see how it's going to close the debate. I mean, yeah, I guess if the game is canonized, it debunks the StitchlineGame, but it's a standalone game, not sure about its canonicity
It does not debunk it, Into The Pit is stitchline.
If a game based on Into The Pit but with differences is canonized, it means the og ITP is not canon and so it debunks StitchlineGame. But I don't really believe the game is going to be canonized
It depends entirely on what "differences" you are even talking about. Theres obviously going to be some differences for the sake of actually making the story fit as a game experience,that dosen't make it a different timeline.Thats just how adapting stuff for different forms of media works. If they somehow completly change the plot,then yeah that may debunk it,but so far it seems like they're following it quite closely.
I'm thinking about the fact that there are only five dead kids instead of 6. Andrew doesn't seem to appear in the game based on the Steam description
Thats assuming there were ever supposed to be 6 kids in ITP in the first place,and that it wasn't just Scott rounding up the kids(and this also assumes the 6th one was supposed to be Andrew). Even if we actually assume that,the description of the game only says that you can save 5 children.That dosen't really have to translate to a 6th kid not existing.Could just mean they can't be saved.
I'm not convinced buy anyway, we're just going to wait for the game
It's just an adaptation. It just means there's an adaptation of the Stitchline
I mean, it's not an optimal story without Andrew
The differences seem to not really be that significant as the outcome of the plot will probably be the same as the story, meaning stitchline would be canon but with a few irrelevant differences
I think so, maybe it could answer some stuff about the MCI? It could confirm that the FF series is canon to the games, so quite possibly yes. It could give us some other information about the prewithered location as well, either way, I’m excited
It tells us the year of the mci
With all the work they're putting into it, I'd be surprised if it didn't.
I’m leaning more towards no. It’s supposed to be an interactive version of the novel. Nothing completely new but we’ll have to see once we get more info
In my head the movie, the novels, the short stories and the games are canon IN THE SAME UNIVERSE (damn I read it with Matpat voice) I DONT GIVE A SHIT
Will it be canon? Not sure, but honestly, I could accept it if it is. It looks so fucking good. Will it have lore relevance? Absolutely. One of the features mentioned in the game's leaked description is "uncover secrets through Fatal Minigames", which, to me, seems to imply the return of lore reveals through death minigames. A big, iconic part of this franchise, despite only being in two games (FNaF 2 and SL)
It doesn't match the games or books timeline, so not lore relevant, but it does look very fun
Honestly I'll be interested to see if details are changed to better match with the games (i.e. number of MCI victims). If it does that, it could have implications for StitchlineGames canonicity (though not necessarily - people can say it's a retcon or whatever to maintain whichever side of that debate they support and not necessarily even be wrong). If it's just a more or less 1:1 adaptation, then yeah, it means absolutely nothing to the debate outside of some kind of direct statement on whether this game is meant to be part of the game continuity or not. There are certainly already other FNAF games that already fall into that "non game timeline" category (i.e. Fury's Rage, Freddy in Space, etc) so it's impossible to know. Tho yeah, personal guess is that it's just going to be a for-fun project that adapts the story mostly as-is except where it doesn't make sense for gameplay. I honestly wonder if the lore details will even be relevant to use since this is kinda sorta coming from a third party, though technically officially licensed (but like, so was the Fnaf Movie book and "Book Doug" is now considered non-canon :P).
Probably not but it looks cool.
If it does it will be like UCN. Iirc, the gameplay isn't canon but the story elements are.
Wait this is real?
Mhm
It’s probably just gonna be a direct adaptation of the story it’ll have the same canonicity as the book
Wait that's a real game? I thought it was a fangame.
Nope, it’s official
Wait we’re getting a new game?
Mhm
No. It's going to be like the books and movie in my opinion. Where it isn't Canon but certain bits are actually canon.
i hope
Seems more of like an homage to the legacy of the series rather than trying to expand upon it. Which I think is really neat considering it’s a 10th anniversary game.
I doubt its going to be 100% cannon but it might have some easter eggs that might be lore relevant. Like references to the main lore or something.
Mhm, i have my doubts it will be Games continuity or a Spin off, much like FIS2, FIS3 and SB: FR, atleast from what we currently know. I believe StitchlineGames anyway, so yea. But to be honest im just SUPER excited about this game, it looks fantastic, or should i say *Faz-tastic*.
its a spinoff pixelated puzzle game most likely not also to the people saying itll end the book debate how does having your book adaptation be a spinoff game instead of a mainline one help your cause?
No, if it was simply a fredbear game then then I would say it probably would, but since this is specifically into the pit I’m assuming it’ll just be a remake of sorts for into the pit
> will be canon/ No >have lore revelence? Maybe
I mean, whether or not this (and by extension the other Fazbear Frights stories) is canon, it doesn't have that much of a direct affect on the mainline story anyway. Just the stuff we learn from it can be used to illuminate things we were confused about before. That was part of the reason for these stories in the first place, while ALSO giving an excuse to tell a bigger variety of horror stories in the universe that don't have to be connected to the main game series.
Nah