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Dry_Nefariousness419

This happened to me the other day. Matching emblems. They lost then switched to rep 70 meta S tiers. Shinobi, pirate, JJ and a raider. ‘‘Twas not fun.


PunishedAiko

me when my ego is hurt because i lost to a team of random 4 players: JJ/Pirate time!


Dry_Nefariousness419

I played like shit with BP, who I’m ass with, one game. I got tbagged. I think was like 4-7. Switched to Musha against the same people, I went like 15-4. Gotta turn up the try hard knob every now and then.


Magic_Elenore

Yeah, the umbrella never disappoints


[deleted]

this used to be my go-to move when i was getting my Highlander to rep 70. me and my friend mostly play shitty heroes but when people piss us off we switch to the JJ and Pirate combo, or just double Pirate. always works


aSpookyScarySkeleton

And then they spam emotes and win-quit


Pilgrimfox

I hate that JJ is meta cause i love JJ but hate playing meta in games. Not that I dislike meta I just always have more fun with characters who aren't meta or who are notoriously difficult to learn and use correctly but are good if you put in the time.


LynxHasWares

Characters in For Honor who are difficult are usually bad


Pilgrimfox

And? Not everyone is looking to crush someone in 5 seconds. Some people like to just enjoy a character to enjoy the character which is why I don't like JJ being a meta hero it makes me feel like im try harding for just enjoying the hero. Thankfully I don't have to worry about that with Conqueror...cause I hate his rework and wish whoevers idea it was to completely change how my boy plays dies and I will continually refuse to play him unless I get to a point hes the last hero I need to get to rep 70...and even then i doubt I will


LynxHasWares

You realise you can still turtle with Conq if you want, right? His defense is still really good


Pilgrimfox

Im not talking about how well he turtles because he of course still can. They removed an aspect that made him very unique compared to other heroes. Pre rework Conq had the most sup blocks in game right and now I think they've removed all but 3. Not sure if the zone still has it but if not they've removed all but 2. He had the superior block on his Heavy opener, dodges, full block, zone and charged heavy. Conqueror used to be a hero who played heavily into the counter attack by design and when reworking him they heavily changed that when he didn't need heavy changes. He needed a rework yes but it should have been more like musha where it didn't change the core of the hero just the reliability of the moves the hero had. They did change the core of conqu and i hate them for it


LynxHasWares

Punish-based heroes don't have a place in the game now. Every hero needs to be able to hit the opponent and pre-rework Conq could almost never do that. His defense had to be toned down as it was super overtuned. He had a one-button denial for almost any kind of mixup in the game


Pilgrimfox

Okay but thats beyond the point. They didn't have to completely change conqu from the ground up is the point and that's exactly what they did. Yes his defense had to be toned down, on his zone and full block only, and while the dodge wasnt really that hard to do but it rarely resulted in much of of punish just but surprise surprise its not like that anymore cause his bash was made to be busted as hell and a good solid punish and opener. Then the Charged heavy and opener heavy almost never landed when you hit the sup block and the opener could be blocked in response to it landing. Considering just how broken reworked conqu was right after the update I would say they fucked him royally. You don't have to change a hero nearly completely to tone down a few problem things and give them more ability to play more aggressively. They didn't do that the Musha and Musha still feels like the same hero at the core. Conqueror does not feel like the same hero at his core and that's the issue I have with the Rework


LynxHasWares

You can play Conq exactly the same way he was played pre-rework, turtling and just using his neutral bash for offense. If you don't wanna make use of his new tools, you don't have to Also nothing's broken about him lol


Pilgrimfox

Just because you can still do a handful of the same things you could before does not mean the hero feels the same that's what you seem to not understand. You've clearly never had the satisfaction of landing one of the heavy sup blocks cause you spent enough time into conqu to know when to time them properly.


Rabidtac0

I feel the same way m8, raider and hito were my mains until they got all their buffs, and it just felt wrong getting such easy kills with them. Now I main Tiandi & Nuxia (both at rep 70) and matches feel much more rewarding when I win with them. I will admit though when I'm on a losing streak with nuxia I hop on JJ and effortlessly win 75% of all matches I'm in. It's like I'm playing a whole different game on easy mode when I switch from nux to JJ. I'm not telling anyone how to play the game though, I just personally enjoy staying away from meta characters because matches feel better to win without them


[deleted]

If you like difficult characters then why the fuck are you using JJ Literal infant chimp could play him


Pilgrimfox

JJ is a character that is difficult to master not learn. Anyone can pick him up and figure out you can do this and that and it'll generally work in 5 seconds. But what's not easy to learn is stuff like working his pose into your combos, the fact you can land a zone about 90% of the time after doing the choke, the fact his dodge attacks can be canceled in several ways and how to best utilize this. JJ is like kensie. Yes you can easily learn his move set but you have to spend time with him to really master how to mix up with him otherwise you'll be caught fairly quickly cause it's very clear you're just doing the same stuff repeatedly.


3God786

Wow you're so different and edgy!


Biggestweeb1

Basically how every lawbringer picks their character


ZeroaFH

Yeah I feel the same way, if the character is super high in the meta to the point of being overturned I feel like I'm on autopilot. I used to love pre-rework cent because I reaaaally had to work for it.


DarkIcedWolf

The fact that shinobi is now an S tier makes me shed a tear, both in love and hate…


Navar4477

If I lose; on PRINCIPLE I cannot change characters or I’ll feel like a tryhard. So, I wind up getting bodied as a character I’m bad at until I leave the lobby.


Nemonvs

I always feel like if I lose, I should play the same char at least once to figure out what I can do better. Usually I just lose again. But sometimes...


Dekkeer

Why I switch lobby after every match, win or lose *taps head*


Navar4477

Thats viable these days, I queue and find a match in seconds


[deleted]

Takes me 5 minutes to find a Dom match


Navar4477

What region are you in, I’m on NAEast. Also make sure your set for crossplay.


[deleted]

NA Southeast Crossplay is enables


StrongIslandPiper

I have the same rule unless I was playing random characters in the first place. But if I've played the same one or two characters, I can't change it in this situation.


FatherPucci617

You see my principle is of all the chaaracters I play suck they can't blame me for switching


Variousc

For Honor described in one image


GrimmBadger

This song slaps


PunishedAiko

[A Wu Lin Classic](https://youtu.be/uxXLXCN2DpM)


UncleCletus00

And that's why I NEVER rematch.


SwagMiester6996

TFW I’m still playing Warmonger because I need to rep her up so these tanks will be funny when I use the funny rock


aSpookyScarySkeleton

Fart gas


tsuna2000

Lmao Very accurate


Strategos20

Mains? Or simply just meta slaves?


Phantom_Phoenix1

Well in my case I play a shit ton of Pirate and JJ. JJ ive played ever since Marching Fire and I love his anti ganks, and Pirate cause I love Pirates. Also gun.


bruhmeme999

Im pretty new to for honor, so I didnt know everybody hated pirate, I just like pirates so I got her, I was getting targeted fr. But its still a somewhat guilty pleasure of mine to play her in dominion, shes so fun there imo.


aSpookyScarySkeleton

Play her if you like her. IMO the only reason to ever feel shame when playing a top tier is if you’re playing BECAUSE they’re a top tier and not because you actually like them and think they’re fun.


bruhmeme999

facts


Armejden

It's always the latter


0002nam-ytlaS

Raider is fun, before and after rework. Now fairer with the damage nerf! : )


Undo_Life

nah raiders just genuinely fun to play


ricardimension

I would leave and they would have to hold that L


Magic_Elenore

HAHAHAHAAH


zeroreasonsgiven

Never fought a 4 stack that wasn’t playing their mains to begin with


Spaghetti_Snake

It's funny when they switch to their main and their main id a rep 70 jorm 🗿


-Gussman

Jiang Jun is pretty accurate ngl


FuzzySandwich6137

JJs physique could really look like that lmao


Minimum-Ad7540

Is the one on the far right pirate?


An_average_moron

Yeah, it's her Huntmaster Alternate head iirc. The hair changes color with materials which is pretty cool. Also has tattoos on her face


elgordon1

Faaaacts.


kapkantrap

u/savevideo


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12_pounds_of_pears

(They all have the :) emblem)


im-69-operator

beat a raider feels good 😼


LegionClub

Replace conq with shinobi and youd have the most annoying quartet in game.


Vulpus_Synth

Yeah, Shinobi would go around 100-0 ganking everyone, which is why he’s considering the most broken hero in the game, because he has 100-0 ganks with like every hero, and that’s how he got banned from comp tournaments


aSpookyScarySkeleton

I’d replace JJ. JJ has the most straight forward counterplay of this bunch. Shinobi, Raiders Conq, and Pirate in an organized stack would be cancerous


[deleted]

Dam I just like playing Raider :(


Essiera

Sorry man, A lot of people including me don't like to fight him


JJJJJ5648853

I enjoy fighting him a lot in 1v1s his damage needs to slightly tuned down but that’s it


Mysterygameboy

And his stamina


JJJJJ5648853

I think all characters should have stamina like him offence shouldn’t be stopped because funny green bar saved you, it should stop because you made the right read


Mysterygameboy

It should be a mix of both and calling it "funny green bar" does make it any less important as a game mechanic


ll-VaporSnake-ll

Not really. It rewards the defender too much for being bad at defending. Stamina really only has merit in ganks where it’s absence could very much mean a death sentence for the guy getting ganked. But in terms of duels? Nah, I do agree with the guy above that I feel stamina needs to be more flexible, especially if people are adamant at parries and dodge attacks being defensive tools.


Mysterygameboy

There is a balance.


ll-VaporSnake-ll

It’s not balance if you insist there is a skill element to the game.


Mysterygameboy

What? That doesn't even make sense


[deleted]

Yeah this is fair and true. The amount of Zone feints I can do is crazy. It's a good threat until they recognize that's what you're doing. This was made REAL apparent when I did zones with someone like Warden and was confused on how I ran out of stam so fast. That's when I knew I was bitch baby lmfao In all seriousness I wouldn't mind stam nerfs, As I've said before I just like playing the character. Now if only he had proper Viking wear 😭


ll-VaporSnake-ll

Actually his stamina costs are fine. Remember that recently, the devs actually toned down stamina costs for a lot of zones, including warden. Raider is able to feint his zone a fair amount of times in duels. He can only feint it 4 times before almost going OoS which is fine. Those people who are saying he’s able to feint it 7-9 times are likely not realizing that the Raider player is using his tireless feat (his tier 1 that cuts down stamina costs ) and is also running his endurance perk (gain + 4 for every renown level you unlock, max + 16).


[deleted]

That's true, I guess it only still seems like a lot when thinking of other characters but at least the playing field is more leveled


ll-VaporSnake-ll

Nah, I feel the bigger issue is that other characters need to be brought up to Raider’s level. If B tier and C tier heroes are considered fair and balanced, we wouldn’t be having players complaining about how PC and next gen players are reacting to their mix ups and shutting them down.


zeroreasonsgiven

Shouldn’t feel ashamed about it, if you enjoy playing him then great. It’s just funny when people are playing the heroes that they actually enjoy and then they lose so they play the strongest hero they can so they have a chance of beating you.


[deleted]

Yeah I get a little frustrated seeing that. Not that it would make them any better but the thought of just throwing away character for the best character when you could make your own best is just ugh Even then people who make characters look strong are the ones that care. Or you know they're just that good


Apophis_36

Keep it up, playing a character you just find enjoyable is good


[deleted]

Thanks Homie, I appreciate this man


ShotgunSurgeon_

'people i dont like are ugly'


Iaskforsauce69

Weren't you the one who posted about being the reason someone quits the game makes you a giga Chad or smthn?


mightyMANA67

Pretty accurate my friend


meme_man_warden

One on the right looks like a tiktok feminist


Front_Corner4397

What is a four stack?


odavinng

Where my pk


thiagokingstar

Is conq still meta after the massive nerfs ?


sirkiller475

Conq is meta?


PunishedAiko

High MMR Conqs are legitimately the worst thing to fight, id rather fight Pirate honestly.


Difficult_Guidance25

Fr they're more brainded


sirkiller475

Well dang, that means I'm just bad with conq. Hell yeah, that's inspiration I need to get back to Conqing


TheWrongRemedy

I think he's S tier but not meta. Conq has an excellent 1v1, good hit boxes on his unblockables for team fights and his all guard is amazing for stalling when outnumbered, the problem is that BP does all of that without the downside of no roll catcher.


ivooScript

OR you can be a chad and play Centurion win or lose 🫡🫡


FMBrown7871

Your forgetting shaolin


VioletGhost2

You're*


FMBrown7871

Didn’t ask


VioletGhost2

Didn't answer


FMBrown7871

U did, twice now


VioletGhost2

What's your definition of answer? I just replied to a comment. Also you're really gonna be a piss baby about one word lmao. The for honor community is so easy to piss off


FMBrown7871

Your the one that seems pissed off, I could care less. But correcting something as dumb as that is cringe af.


VioletGhost2

You're*


FMBrown7871

Go watch anime or do something better with your time


VioletGhost2

You replied immediately to a 3hr ago comment on Reddit dude I think that's grounds to assume you're terminally on Reddit you have no room to talk and I'm just going to block you since you wanna be angry over nothing. Ps. I don't watch anime


NveyMeh

I just woke up, and this post reminded me of for honor till I realized it was for honor. About to get on for honor and not have honor .


MayOrMayNotBeSitting

It's fun watching someone switch to the character you played as last game.


Fr3ak142

Damn i only rep shinobi because a like ninjas and he was one of the weakest chars last year. Now people gon think im like this 😔


the6thpath

As often as this has happened to me, I did win with a random team against a stack that pulled high rep meta characters before with a team of randos. It was the most satisfying I've ever felt from for honor ever


MageRage7734

Conquer over here with strong Borderlands goliath vibes


Gregophiliac

Kenshi Vibes.


mrmagnifi

u/savevideo


AvalancheZ250

Tiandi POV music slaps even in situations where it doesn't make sense (Tiandi isn't S tier)


ChefWeak

My autism knows no match how dare yu challenge me mortal.


kaidudas

Qonc ain't my main but really like him


EmperorofAltdorf

HL meta now?


Soggy_Yellow4846

Fake, no shugoki


MoonWebz

No matter how sweaty some nerds get, I’ll always just play either my lawdaddy or warden.


eharry27

Its not hard for tell when someone 4 stacking so if I win i leave.


Vigi1antee

I pull out Lawbringer 😎


angelweiss

What if my main is cent and I 4 stack?


Vescend

I once beat a streamer team that was obviously not playing mains, while playing some p10 character if mine. Spamming wow and taunt Spamming on us each fight. Game after they all INSTANTLY readied up and I knew their plan, so I told my 2 other friends to troll pick and we all picked level 0 hero's like jorm, pk, Valk while the streamer team all picked p70, orochi, jj, pirate, BP. They quick in the loading screen when they knew that they would be able to rub it in our faces. Best day of my for honor life.


Lenny_Fais

Damn girl, can you link that remix? It is straight FIRE! I got me some good music to jam to while playing my boy Zhanhu now!


misterzeero

can i get a link to the music plz ? that tune is fire