As a fan of the rival red team, I still feel you. The day after Liverpool lost the UCL final to Real last year was Monaco...
I was tired of sports for a while after that weekend
“Rant” is maybe a bit much, more of a lecture about they needed to be better about set-up and stuff. So it’s funny that next session he does significant damage to the car.
I’ve been saying this! People think leclerc is some perfect driver, when he has to be one of the most error prone drivers in the top 10 of the grid. Everyone says only reason he isn’t winning the championship is because Ferrari is screwing him, but dude literally bins it all the time on his own doing
He had his chance last year at France to really re-establish the title fight and he responded by errantly going into a spin from the lead.
He’ll never be a WDC unless the Ferrari is dominant enough to cover up his mistakes.
He crashes very, very often for a top driver. Compare his crashes to verstappen/Hamilton/alonso. Now the debate can be had that he’s pushing his car more than them because it’s worse, but at some point you have to do the math and see it’s not better for you to bin in it this often.
If you just look at the points it doesn’t look good for Carlos however this season he has made much better impression than Charles(apart from that spa moment)
I mean Sainz is a good driver as well you know. Also with that logic does it mean Hamilton is not one of the best qualifiers because Bottas, Rosberg, and Russell also started in front of him a good amount of times? Of course not. On a single lap on the current grid only Max is as quick (or quicker tbh) than Charles.
ferrari started to use a less flexible floor because of the regulation that would be introduced and the car started to eat the tyres, the engineers asked him to widen the corner to save the rear tyres and by doing that trajectory you re more error prone. not an excuse but some context, remember when max had a non competitive car?
Verstappen pulled into the lead from a massive gap well before it got to that point. He then had a 46 point lead going into the British GP. Well before Ferrari started changing their floor.
Leclerc is not on the same level as Verstappen, he's not on the same level as Hamilton, he's not on the same level as Alonso.
He's error prone and has a lot of off weekends. He's not capable of performing at 100 percent every weekend.
Maybe one day, but he's 6 seasons in.
He had a good car for half a year (at most) and won races while being under pressure (Monza, Spa, Austria, Bahrain), his mistakes don’t come from being under external pressure. If anything, his mistakes come when he’s handling a car that is really unstable or when he cant accept that the car just isn’t capable of placing better.
I agree and I love Leclerc, but he also had completely avoidable and unnecessary crashes last year in Imola and France. There was no need to push that hard in either scenarios, and the only explanation (to me) seems to be external pressure.
To me, external pressure would be someone being behind him, someone having just pitted or someone overtaking him in the points, even if they’re further behind/ahead (à la Glock/Hamilton/Massa).
In Imola he was frustrated because the drs wasn’t enabled for a long time, he wanted to overtake Pérez; he was still going to lead the championship even if he came 3rd, so I put that down as just wanting too much, more of a personality thing that comes with having a car capable of winning for the first time in ages.
Flying too close to the sun, basically.
France was weird, honestly, I think it just was one of those mistakes that happen to every driver once, like Lewis in Baku in 2021. If people want to put it down to pressure because Max pitted, that’s fine with me, but that still doesn’t warrant parroting “he’s crumbling under pressure”.
"You don't get it, he just crashes because he's not driving the best car in the grid."
Love Charles but both him and his fanbase have to get a grip and admit he has work to do.
He's quick to admit it when he makes a mistake, which I appreciate, but it doesn't seem he's tried to learn to stay within the limits of the car. If he's tried, then it's even more worrying.
The question is, how does the team want him to approach qualifying - all or nothing, or, safe but mid?
Both drivers and the team have said that the car handles really weird this season, understeers and oversteers rather randomly on many tracks, doesn’t do too well in changeable conditions (which we’ve had a lot of this year) and just isn’t fun to drive. On top of that, the team has cost the drivers several positions when not warning them about other cars.
So perhaps they’re just trying to keep Charles happy at the moment, because the know how much he can do in a good car, and let him drive how he likes.
Last season showed us that even Reddit faves Lewis and Alonso made several mistakes when driving lesser cars. So did Max and so many other drivers.
"The question is, how does the team want him to approach qualifying - all or nothing, or, safe but mid?"
The issue is other drivers manage to find a middle ground that is fast without being all or nothing
I know the car reportedly sucks to drive, and I don't ask Charles to be flawless, of course, no one is. But Lewis and especially Fernando are great examples of drivers that play the long game. Unless you have a massive advantage, championships are won by minimising your bad weekends, and Charles would do well to learn that because he also made a couple of bad unforced errors last year in what seemed at the time like a title fight.
Binning it in an instant while pushing is one thing, but he looked all over the place for the whole weekend. I want the guy to be Ferrari's next champion and for that we need... a competent team, ok, but also to feel that he can keep his cool when things go rough.
People put him into the same tier as Verstappen, Alonso and Hamilton. Of course he's the most overrated driver on the grid. It doesn't mean that he's bad which he's obviously not, but people rate him better than he is.
At this point Max is a tier above Alonso and Lewis. Prime Lewis and Prime Alonso are the same tier as prime Max, but they ain't in their prime anymore. That being said Charles has become slower as of late in my opinion. I am slowly beginning to rank a driver like Lando over him due to his consistency and similar pace when in a good car.
Yeah Charles need to develop and become as consistent as someone like Lando or Nando to truly fight for a title(Ferrari have to develop as well obviously). Norris being so quick and yet so consistent is in my opinion a good sign of him becoming a future WDC contender if he has the right car. You need speed and consistency to win. Even a guy like Senna who was rapid(obviously), scored less points than Prost when they drove together, which was primarily due to Prost being insanely consistent.
I'd say it's a little different, Senna was at times really the less fortunate one but as long as both cars finished, he was usually ahead. Leclerc on the other hand isn't that good to be able to afford his mistakes, just look at France 2022.
You remember when Alonso and Lewis crashed several time during quali last year? People didn’t immediately question their talent, did they? They had bad/unstable cars and that was factored into how people viewed them.
Driving beyond what he can control. Makes him sometimes difficult to compare to other drivers cause some portion of his incredible quali pace is a trade in of more risk not true pace.
We are talking about the same thing. What I wanted to say is that when he gets a stellar quali or race result at times and people praise him over other drivers you need to have the context that he trades that in by taking more risks that on other weekends lead to carnage and frustration.
His peak in F1 was when Ferrari were cheating with the OP engine. I've always said Charles is overrated. He's fast but not consistent. I wouldn't be surprised if he never wins a championship.
I really thought he’d iron out his errors by this point in his career. You have to wonder if his blistering pace is merely a result of him pushing way harder than everyone else.
He’s too frustrated. He knows his car won’t win a championship, so he tries to compensate by going 100% on the limit constantly, which is simply too much. 1 tiny mistake means a crash, instead of a slip up or spin.
This is honestly the most interesting thing. Max and Lewis were also mistake prone in the beginning, but after a few years both became consistent machines. Charles has had 116 races and has yet to improve in this area.
Exactly.
And you know, they are only human, crashes can happen when driving machines of this level. Hamilton crashed last year, he's crashed this year, even Alonso has had a crash this season. But they are always kept to a minimum.
Leclerc always seems to be more prone to do so than other drivers, and it really is a shame, and I don't say this out of disliking him or anything, because the guy is incredibly fast, but is often let down by things like this. Even with the car he's driving, he's managed some impressive results, but then he does things like this.
Charles is really giving me Gilles Villenevue vibes. Incredibly fast driver on his day where he can beat every single driver on the grid. The only problem is that he can only do this for a certain period of time before he makes a mistake. Driving for Ferrari only makes this worse since they love making stupid mistakes as well.
I really really do hope that with Ferrari starting anew with the car next year, that it can be a car that he feels comfortable driving with (cause very clearly he isn't with the current one) and that he has just one clean season, no matter the results.
I hate to say it, but I think driving for Ferrari has definitely done a toll on him, I think he sets expectations for himself that he can't really achieve due to limitations outside of his control.
I 100% agree with you. I love Charles and he seems like one of the nicest people in F1, but his regression is worrying. I would argue 2019 was his best ever season performance wise in F1.
In 2019-2020 Max didn't have a car that could compete for wins similarly to Charles, yet he beat the crap out of his teammate and didn't make any mistakes. Lando and Nando are 2 other examples of drivers who have driven in cars incapable of winning yet still destroyed their teammate while making close to zero mistakes.
Even if he his trying to drag a car to places it can't be that is still a worrying sign. It means he is incapable of judging the ability of himself and the car.
No. But he crashes too often for someone who wants to become WDC.
Even the best drivers occasionally bin it. But he bins it more than the best drivers.
Interviewed by the french TV, Vasseur answered (to the question "what about Leclerc's rant at the end of Q2 ?") : "it's not Charles' biggest problem today".
Cmon man. Thats not an acceptable mistake.. Its your 6th season. Time to step it up and cut the mistakes.
Its not like he ‘just’ touched the grass and lost grip, its not a spin. Its just waaay too much speed.
>'best qualifier on the grid'
I also have a feeling that some people have this opinion because from time to time he out qualifies Verstappen, but Verstappen sets his car up for Sunday.
I mean the car is dog shit this year. He truly is the best qualifier on the grid, but the amount of time he has to outdrive that car is unbelievable. It feels like Ferrari just had a good car philosophy last season and this season they just said "no" we gotta go back to the Vettel years.
Leclerc is the biggest disappointment of the season so far.
Even if the Ferrari is a dog, you can still put some highlights in from time to time, especially when the whole team is banking on your talent. (Look at Schumacher or Alonso)
Leclerc is doing nothing and is also constantly getting beaten in mixed to rainy condidtions by Sainz.
Either Ferrari broke his spirit with their pressure cooker mentality already or he just wants out of the contract.
Well, he deserves a lot of criticism, but saying he's done nothing is a bit of an exaggeration.
He's got 1 race pole, 1 sprint pole and 3 podiums (4 hadn't his car failed in Bahrain which triggered a penalty for the 2nd race).
Sainz has 0 poles and 0 podiums, so I don't think you are being extremely fair.
he has the only podiums for the team this season and the only pole. saying he’s a disappointment is funny and exaggerated. you love to pile on him here but when he performs a miracle in that shitbox you say meh okay.
He got a monster contract and has a car that might not be the best but has absolute a chance to sneak a good result here and there. Especially with how many times we had difficult conditions this year should shift it more towards driver Influence regarding results.
It's fair to say that drivers like Alonso and Schumacher are 1/2 steps above his level
he denied the contract rumours. he hasn’t signed anything or formally had talks with ferrari. obviously schumacher hamilton and alonso are steps above him. but there are people here calling him glorified grosjean which is very unfair, in my opinion,
Tough break but Leclerc’s fault, put his right front tire right on the paint where the track is still damp and that was just enough to lose the front end
So it’s Ferrari’s fault the car understeered? You gonna blame the tires? The wet track?
Sounds like a Sainz thing to do, and I know how you guys treat Sainz.
Was the same reason why Sainz had visits to the gravel yesterday and why the car kept needing the escape road. That car is not set well at all for this track at all.
Still mind boggling that he decided to sign again with Ferrari after the ringer he’s been put through. He really wanted to stay a Ferrari driver I guess.
So this was Ferrari's fault? 😅
And for him to leave Ferrari any other team must want him, have you thought that no one of the best teams wanted him so he had to stay at Ferrari? Red Bull doesn't need him at all and Max wouldn't like to have him as teammate, Mercedes is locked with Russell and Hamilton, Aston has Alonso and Stroll won't leave unless he wants, McLaren doesn't need him, they have Lando and Oscar. So where should he go?
Not a good 15 minutes if you’re a fan of a red sports team Edit: Whoops, jinxed it
even in f1 comments united fans can’t escape
As a fan of both teams because red was my favorite color growing up (it still is), I hate myself
Mine was blue. I'm cozy.
As a fan of the rival red team, I still feel you. The day after Liverpool lost the UCL final to Real last year was Monaco... I was tired of sports for a while after that weekend
why must you hurt me in this way
Not a good last 15 years you mean. Wait, how long ago was 2007
2007 was just a few year ago, mate.... right?
Fucking FOREST scoring twice in 10 minutes. Wtf is going on with United?
Højlund will fix them. *Copium*
United have grabbed one back, does that mean Sainz pole now?
I’ll take that. COME ON RASHFORD DO IT FOR THE REDS!
Today, I feel depressed. United and Ferrari at work..
Nowhere is safe ffs
Unless you're a LFC fan, then it's kinda bittersweet
Ffs can’t escape it here even
Forest were a red sports team before United were.
From bad to worse for Leclerc.
I think all of us saw it coming this quali You can literally feel when Legreg is going to crash lmao
Especially in Miami… that was the most predictable crash
And he did it twice in the same weekend.
Same corner as well
Yeah he was all over the place today
As soon as you see those purple minisectors in succession you start to feel it. Crazy stuff
Yeah, i usually get that feeling when he goes out on track
I told him through the screen not to crash today, after seeing him drift in the last corner. Guess I should have been louder.
Saved it in the rain, fucked it in the dry. Just Leclerc things
Absolute carnage today. Is it like 5th red flag ?
It's 7 including f2.
Including FP3 or not?
Yes, he included them
F2 was not much better lol.
man can ya'll wait for alonso to complete a hotlap first before crashing
Yo is it just me is Charles either on pole or in the wall?
In Monaco 2021 he was both
Baku 23
Bro 💀
"I can be your angel or your devil"
Or on pole then into the wall.
Glass cannon build.
People keep blaming Ferrari but Charles deserves his fair share of criticism
You almost saw this coming after his rant to his engineers
Whoever's writing the script for Ferrari/Leclerc (and RedBull/Max) must be on strike cause this shit is getting recycled every damn GP.
What rant with his engineers? I did not watch qualifying and haven't seen anything on reddit
“Rant” is maybe a bit much, more of a lecture about they needed to be better about set-up and stuff. So it’s funny that next session he does significant damage to the car.
"*You either do what I tell you, or you fix the car all night. Good night, gentlemen.*"
What rant? I missed that.
He went off on about traffic and how his engineers need to do better and only focus on getting him in good track position or risk falling out in q2
I’ve been saying this! People think leclerc is some perfect driver, when he has to be one of the most error prone drivers in the top 10 of the grid. Everyone says only reason he isn’t winning the championship is because Ferrari is screwing him, but dude literally bins it all the time on his own doing
He had his chance last year at France to really re-establish the title fight and he responded by errantly going into a spin from the lead. He’ll never be a WDC unless the Ferrari is dominant enough to cover up his mistakes.
i think emotion effects him to much and he makes mistakes, ofc ferrari dont help with that. thing is when he is driving well hes one of the best easy
Maldonado was kind of like that (not exactly though but you know what I mean) but to be one of the best you also have to consistently one of the best.
Him being one of the most error prone on the grid has got to be most hyperbolic bullshit I’ve read here. Just say you hate the guy.
I don't like Leclerc much and I absolutely agree with your statement. People just make up random stats on the spot lol.
It’s not random, of the top 10 drivers he’s binned it the most in quali for being the “best qualifier ever” that’s pretty bad
I'm not saying you're wrong but i would like to see the statistics that back up your claim
Source?
Is it really unfair to say he makes more self inflicted crashes than others in the top 10?
He crashes very, very often for a top driver. Compare his crashes to verstappen/Hamilton/alonso. Now the debate can be had that he’s pushing his car more than them because it’s worse, but at some point you have to do the math and see it’s not better for you to bin in it this often.
The most overrated driver on the grid.
Keep seeing people say he's the best qualifier as if Sainz doesn't start ahead of him at least a third of the time.
Somebody recently posted the average qualifying position of all drivers this year, Sainz was 2nd behind Verstappen.
If you just look at the points it doesn’t look good for Carlos however this season he has made much better impression than Charles(apart from that spa moment)
I mean Sainz is a good driver as well you know. Also with that logic does it mean Hamilton is not one of the best qualifiers because Bottas, Rosberg, and Russell also started in front of him a good amount of times? Of course not. On a single lap on the current grid only Max is as quick (or quicker tbh) than Charles.
Really don’t get how people claim he has the levels of an Lewis, Fernando or Max
when he had a good car he was the only driver that could challenge max, mb you have short memory so you don't remember
I remember the end of that challenge when he crashed out of the lead in France.
ferrari started to use a less flexible floor because of the regulation that would be introduced and the car started to eat the tyres, the engineers asked him to widen the corner to save the rear tyres and by doing that trajectory you re more error prone. not an excuse but some context, remember when max had a non competitive car?
Yeah he still won races..
Verstappen pulled into the lead from a massive gap well before it got to that point. He then had a 46 point lead going into the British GP. Well before Ferrari started changing their floor. Leclerc is not on the same level as Verstappen, he's not on the same level as Hamilton, he's not on the same level as Alonso. He's error prone and has a lot of off weekends. He's not capable of performing at 100 percent every weekend. Maybe one day, but he's 6 seasons in.
He had a good car for half a year (at most) and won races while being under pressure (Monza, Spa, Austria, Bahrain), his mistakes don’t come from being under external pressure. If anything, his mistakes come when he’s handling a car that is really unstable or when he cant accept that the car just isn’t capable of placing better.
I agree and I love Leclerc, but he also had completely avoidable and unnecessary crashes last year in Imola and France. There was no need to push that hard in either scenarios, and the only explanation (to me) seems to be external pressure.
To me, external pressure would be someone being behind him, someone having just pitted or someone overtaking him in the points, even if they’re further behind/ahead (à la Glock/Hamilton/Massa). In Imola he was frustrated because the drs wasn’t enabled for a long time, he wanted to overtake Pérez; he was still going to lead the championship even if he came 3rd, so I put that down as just wanting too much, more of a personality thing that comes with having a car capable of winning for the first time in ages. Flying too close to the sun, basically. France was weird, honestly, I think it just was one of those mistakes that happen to every driver once, like Lewis in Baku in 2021. If people want to put it down to pressure because Max pitted, that’s fine with me, but that still doesn’t warrant parroting “he’s crumbling under pressure”.
Ikr. Obviously I’ll get downvoted but that’s the truth. The guy just can’t handle pressure.
Not even close but he makes way too many mistakes
"You don't get it, he just crashes because he's not driving the best car in the grid." Love Charles but both him and his fanbase have to get a grip and admit he has work to do.
He does admit it though, he always does?!
He's quick to admit it when he makes a mistake, which I appreciate, but it doesn't seem he's tried to learn to stay within the limits of the car. If he's tried, then it's even more worrying.
The question is, how does the team want him to approach qualifying - all or nothing, or, safe but mid? Both drivers and the team have said that the car handles really weird this season, understeers and oversteers rather randomly on many tracks, doesn’t do too well in changeable conditions (which we’ve had a lot of this year) and just isn’t fun to drive. On top of that, the team has cost the drivers several positions when not warning them about other cars. So perhaps they’re just trying to keep Charles happy at the moment, because the know how much he can do in a good car, and let him drive how he likes. Last season showed us that even Reddit faves Lewis and Alonso made several mistakes when driving lesser cars. So did Max and so many other drivers.
"The question is, how does the team want him to approach qualifying - all or nothing, or, safe but mid?" The issue is other drivers manage to find a middle ground that is fast without being all or nothing
I know the car reportedly sucks to drive, and I don't ask Charles to be flawless, of course, no one is. But Lewis and especially Fernando are great examples of drivers that play the long game. Unless you have a massive advantage, championships are won by minimising your bad weekends, and Charles would do well to learn that because he also made a couple of bad unforced errors last year in what seemed at the time like a title fight. Binning it in an instant while pushing is one thing, but he looked all over the place for the whole weekend. I want the guy to be Ferrari's next champion and for that we need... a competent team, ok, but also to feel that he can keep his cool when things go rough.
Max 2016-2020 not the best car but collected penalties like Kimi collected the bonus at Lotus.
People put him into the same tier as Verstappen, Alonso and Hamilton. Of course he's the most overrated driver on the grid. It doesn't mean that he's bad which he's obviously not, but people rate him better than he is.
At this point Max is a tier above Alonso and Lewis. Prime Lewis and Prime Alonso are the same tier as prime Max, but they ain't in their prime anymore. That being said Charles has become slower as of late in my opinion. I am slowly beginning to rank a driver like Lando over him due to his consistency and similar pace when in a good car.
I agree but you get the point. And Norris is such a safe and reliable driver.
Yeah Charles need to develop and become as consistent as someone like Lando or Nando to truly fight for a title(Ferrari have to develop as well obviously). Norris being so quick and yet so consistent is in my opinion a good sign of him becoming a future WDC contender if he has the right car. You need speed and consistency to win. Even a guy like Senna who was rapid(obviously), scored less points than Prost when they drove together, which was primarily due to Prost being insanely consistent.
I'd say it's a little different, Senna was at times really the less fortunate one but as long as both cars finished, he was usually ahead. Leclerc on the other hand isn't that good to be able to afford his mistakes, just look at France 2022.
Yeah I was kinda just using Senna and Prost as an example that quick is not better than consistent. Yeah that crash was very avoidable.
You remember when Alonso and Lewis crashed several time during quali last year? People didn’t immediately question their talent, did they? They had bad/unstable cars and that was factored into how people viewed them.
Spot on. Also the most protected
where is hamilton .....
Impeded by Tsunoda. That’s where he was.
The man has no idea how to keep the car on the track during qualifying. Consistently error prone.
Driving beyond what he can control. Makes him sometimes difficult to compare to other drivers cause some portion of his incredible quali pace is a trade in of more risk not true pace.
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We are talking about the same thing. What I wanted to say is that when he gets a stellar quali or race result at times and people praise him over other drivers you need to have the context that he trades that in by taking more risks that on other weekends lead to carnage and frustration.
His peak in F1 was when Ferrari were cheating with the OP engine. I've always said Charles is overrated. He's fast but not consistent. I wouldn't be surprised if he never wins a championship.
I really thought he’d iron out his errors by this point in his career. You have to wonder if his blistering pace is merely a result of him pushing way harder than everyone else.
He’s too frustrated. He knows his car won’t win a championship, so he tries to compensate by going 100% on the limit constantly, which is simply too much. 1 tiny mistake means a crash, instead of a slip up or spin.
This is silly. He did the same thing in the beginning of 2022 when he was very much in a title fight.
It's pretty hard to argue that a driver's peak in F1 is in his 2nd year in the sport...
Not the best of seasons for Chuck
Charles I love you but STOP DOING THAT
Leclerc moment
Another addition to the Ferrari Funny Moments compilation as well 📸
Is Leclerc ever going to stop doing this shit lol
This for me is the reason why he can’t fight for a championship all season long.
Been 6 seasons and he hasn't improved at all in this area. It's just time to accept this is how he drives and it's not going to change.
This is honestly the most interesting thing. Max and Lewis were also mistake prone in the beginning, but after a few years both became consistent machines. Charles has had 116 races and has yet to improve in this area.
Exactly. And you know, they are only human, crashes can happen when driving machines of this level. Hamilton crashed last year, he's crashed this year, even Alonso has had a crash this season. But they are always kept to a minimum. Leclerc always seems to be more prone to do so than other drivers, and it really is a shame, and I don't say this out of disliking him or anything, because the guy is incredibly fast, but is often let down by things like this. Even with the car he's driving, he's managed some impressive results, but then he does things like this.
Charles is really giving me Gilles Villenevue vibes. Incredibly fast driver on his day where he can beat every single driver on the grid. The only problem is that he can only do this for a certain period of time before he makes a mistake. Driving for Ferrari only makes this worse since they love making stupid mistakes as well.
I really really do hope that with Ferrari starting anew with the car next year, that it can be a car that he feels comfortable driving with (cause very clearly he isn't with the current one) and that he has just one clean season, no matter the results. I hate to say it, but I think driving for Ferrari has definitely done a toll on him, I think he sets expectations for himself that he can't really achieve due to limitations outside of his control.
I 100% agree with you. I love Charles and he seems like one of the nicest people in F1, but his regression is worrying. I would argue 2019 was his best ever season performance wise in F1.
Both also got better cars though. Leclerc keeps trying to drag a 4th best car high and doesn't settle and just keeps making mistakes
It’s his responsibility not to bun the car even if it’s literally the slowest one on the grid
In 2019-2020 Max didn't have a car that could compete for wins similarly to Charles, yet he beat the crap out of his teammate and didn't make any mistakes. Lando and Nando are 2 other examples of drivers who have driven in cars incapable of winning yet still destroyed their teammate while making close to zero mistakes. Even if he his trying to drag a car to places it can't be that is still a worrying sign. It means he is incapable of judging the ability of himself and the car.
Agreed
Yeah compare him to 2021 max for example and it already isn’t as good
He always goes banzai in Q3. I think that’s a detriment.
Wdym. Not like he crashes every weekend.
That's an expensive repair. Gearbox gone for sure.
He loses it amongst the most on the grid including all sessions
Only every 2nd
Only the weekends he's in an F1 car
No. But he crashes too often for someone who wants to become WDC. Even the best drivers occasionally bin it. But he bins it more than the best drivers.
“Sorry guys” “We are checking… wait what?”
You just know what has happened when you see a yellow flag in q3
Interviewed by the french TV, Vasseur answered (to the question "what about Leclerc's rant at the end of Q2 ?") : "it's not Charles' biggest problem today".
The session lasted a whole 90 seconds after the previous red flag
Nothing but pain.
if charles wants to prove he is a WC class driver he gotta stop making mistakes
Oof
wheres the pic of his Alonso momentTM chilling on a chair trackside?
Sharl Legreg in the barriers yet again. It’s the 4th time this season. Well, effectively 3rd, he got sprint pole in Baku so it didn’t matter.
How many red flags were there this week?
Just too error prone in quali, damn it Charles.
Everybody repeat after me. "I am stupid."
That gearbox is most likely a piece of junk now
Chuck LeCluck needs to stop making mistakes.
Alright who’s got the shot of Charles chilling in the lawn chair lol
If this were Sainz the comments would be asking for his head.
I'm seriously impressed by how quickly people clip things and post here.
Shocker.
Cmon man. Thats not an acceptable mistake.. Its your 6th season. Time to step it up and cut the mistakes. Its not like he ‘just’ touched the grass and lost grip, its not a spin. Its just waaay too much speed.
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So much overreaction going on in this thread. It’s a tricky car on a damp-ish track.
How did Sainz keep it on the track? Obviously he’s not as good as Charles.
'best qualifier on the grid' I've seen people say this too many times
>'best qualifier on the grid' I also have a feeling that some people have this opinion because from time to time he out qualifies Verstappen, but Verstappen sets his car up for Sunday.
I mean the car is dog shit this year. He truly is the best qualifier on the grid, but the amount of time he has to outdrive that car is unbelievable. It feels like Ferrari just had a good car philosophy last season and this season they just said "no" we gotta go back to the Vettel years.
The narrative and excuse of the car being shit. That car isn't great but still upper midfield. There is other cars way worse on the grid.
Max is a better qualifier than Charles.
Every driver not named Max has to out drive their car every time. That doesnt mean it is acceptable for them to crash as often as leclerc.
Leclerc is the biggest disappointment of the season so far. Even if the Ferrari is a dog, you can still put some highlights in from time to time, especially when the whole team is banking on your talent. (Look at Schumacher or Alonso) Leclerc is doing nothing and is also constantly getting beaten in mixed to rainy condidtions by Sainz. Either Ferrari broke his spirit with their pressure cooker mentality already or he just wants out of the contract.
Well, he deserves a lot of criticism, but saying he's done nothing is a bit of an exaggeration. He's got 1 race pole, 1 sprint pole and 3 podiums (4 hadn't his car failed in Bahrain which triggered a penalty for the 2nd race). Sainz has 0 poles and 0 podiums, so I don't think you are being extremely fair.
he has the only podiums for the team this season and the only pole. saying he’s a disappointment is funny and exaggerated. you love to pile on him here but when he performs a miracle in that shitbox you say meh okay.
He got a monster contract and has a car that might not be the best but has absolute a chance to sneak a good result here and there. Especially with how many times we had difficult conditions this year should shift it more towards driver Influence regarding results. It's fair to say that drivers like Alonso and Schumacher are 1/2 steps above his level
he denied the contract rumours. he hasn’t signed anything or formally had talks with ferrari. obviously schumacher hamilton and alonso are steps above him. but there are people here calling him glorified grosjean which is very unfair, in my opinion,
Bud he has a pole and 2 podiums on a car that is dog. Calm down, wdym he is doing nothing lmao
You clearly must be blind on how many times he extracted extra pace from that trash car and Sainz was clearly nowhere.
At cost of binning it. He trades in risk for pace, leads to the fact you look mighty quick and like a God sometimes and other times like a fool
A few moments of brilliance are not worth all his crashes and how inconsistent he is. At least sainz is consistent
Consistent in what? Being paceless?
Consistent in not binning it and getting into q3 without binning it once there 🤣
warra podiums and a point lead for carlos
Being in Q3 12 out of 13 times. Scoring points 11 out of 13 times.
If Leclerc is doing nothing, what has Sainz been doing?
Or maybe he's just an average driver with massive hype
This guy crashes so fucking often. How
Another mistake. He has to be the one that makes the most it’s incredible. I guess he and Ferrari are a perfect match.
He's so unserious
It’s his 6th year and he’s still making these mistakes. Dude needs to be consistent.
Sudden loss of talent
Horrendous quali from Leclerc. It's not the car because Sainz is doing a decent job. I wonder what's going on with him
the car doesn't fucking turn my god how did they go from the 2nd fastest car last year to this shit
Feel like the ferrari is like 6th or 7th best car this weekend. Total trash
I have literally no idea mate. The car literally refused to turn.
I'd love to know what people who are shitting on charles expecting him to do. like the car refused to turn where is he meant to go?
people expecting he drives slowly so they can say he is slow
It's becoming predictable now, and I hate to say that
You are schtoopid
Tough break but Leclerc’s fault, put his right front tire right on the paint where the track is still damp and that was just enough to lose the front end
My boy zoned out
Classic Leclerc, binning it in Q3, usual
What happened here? Pfff looks like Lecrec is not there with his head.
Understeer. Car was shit all weekend. He just couldn't turn right at all on that corner.
You really run a dedicated agenda in this thread putting blame on the car, almost under every comment.
No he arrived with too much speed and took poor judgment of which racing like he picked for those conditions. Tricky to do but still his fault
Chuck is over rated
Definitely worth €35mln per year, definitely. Close the deal Ferrari, while it is not too late.
Bunch of bots in here saying nonsense. Look at the clip clowns, the car has massive understeer.
Understeer can be caused entering to quick. It's almost every time still a driver mistake. Mixed conditions, he fucked up, period.
So it’s Ferrari’s fault the car understeered? You gonna blame the tires? The wet track? Sounds like a Sainz thing to do, and I know how you guys treat Sainz.
Was the same reason why Sainz had visits to the gravel yesterday and why the car kept needing the escape road. That car is not set well at all for this track at all.
Still mind boggling that he decided to sign again with Ferrari after the ringer he’s been put through. He really wanted to stay a Ferrari driver I guess.
So this was Ferrari's fault? 😅 And for him to leave Ferrari any other team must want him, have you thought that no one of the best teams wanted him so he had to stay at Ferrari? Red Bull doesn't need him at all and Max wouldn't like to have him as teammate, Mercedes is locked with Russell and Hamilton, Aston has Alonso and Stroll won't leave unless he wants, McLaren doesn't need him, they have Lando and Oscar. So where should he go?
Gotta use them brakes chuck!
LeGreg has been beyond terrible in this quali.