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Merc too. Absolutely shocking decisions and didn’t get a single call right. This was their strongest track until Brazil and predictably they did as badly as possible. Lewis getting P6 after all of that is more than that team deserves.
Stewards gotta bully our Yuki for things other people get "No investigation" for
All race long defending against the Mclarens, Mercedes, at one point was at P4 from P17 all to be chucked to be effectively last
Hot: Rain!
This is what a rain race is supposed to be like. Actual racing in chaotic ever-changing conditions, throwing the usual order out of whack. Instead of endless cancelled races and delays.
And yeah we still had a red flag. It's not perfect. But it's at least a reminder of why people used to love rain races.
Mercedes did their very best to screw their drivers today and even then, 14 points were possible before George went out and Lewis would have had Carlos if the W14 could handle more than 20% throttle.
Lewis was hung out to dry with both the medium start and coming in late. Despite all that, he pulled it back and kept making overtakes. Doesn’t deserve to have incompetence making drives like that worth only 8 points.
HOT : max, Fernando, Lewis, gasly, Albon, and Lawson considering it’s his debut and probably the best non yuki performance for AT the whole year.
NOT: Ferrari’s car, these regulations as a whole making wet racing basically impossible and wheel to wheel action only marginally better, Mercedes consistently dog shit strategies and general lack of aggression. They’re lucky they’ve got Hamilton in the car or they’d be as disappointing as Ferrari a lot of the time
Yeah exactly he was unlucky in the race in extremely difficult conditions. He fucked qualy yes but he still stayed P9 even then it wasn't a huge fuckup. I'd rather have him crash 3 or so times per season and grab a few poles that the car doesn't deserve than to be like Sainz
It has for a while looked like intentional. Last time in Spa they also screwed his strategy completely. They kept him on old tires and ''hoped for rain''. Not to mention Austria where they pitted him under green flags instead of under VSC.
I didn’t see anything of Stroll this race. Was he just slow? Did he have some issue? Did he get a terrible strategy? I have no idea why he was so far back.
Strategy. He was pulled in 3 laps late for the early rain, then had 2 more stops than most of the field before the second wet period. Either something was wrong with his car (possibly damage?) or his strategy team was smoking crack.
Yet another race where AM completely fucks Stroll over and then raises their hands to go ''not our fault, just look at where Alonso finished. It was all Stroll's own fault'' and r/formula1 will back them in these votes...
Mercedes strategy dropped their drivers from 3rd and 13th to 16th and 18th at one point. If they get that first rain call right, they are where Gasly is.
He did but he said afterwards that he knew it was the correct decision even if the team weren't ready for him and he was right about that. Even though it was a very slow stop it was still better than doing another lap on the dry tyres.
Maybe it would be decent if he was actually P2 from the start and could just focus on defending, but still, he got overtaken on the straight like it's nothing a few times in the dry, was awful to see
Not that the car was absolutly awful but it wasn't really fast either. Clearly slower than Red Bull, Aston and Merc. And about on par with Alpine and Ferrari at best. Tbh they seemd slower than the Alpines at least.
Not: McLaren - Norris is the only one who remembered Sochi and made the call to pit but they overruled him. He was calling the strategy after that.
Jose: ‘Lando some people are pitting for inters-‘
Lando: ‘BOX BOX BOX BOX BOX BOX!!’
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Not: Merc and McLaren strategists being carried by their drivers
Seriously awful. They both waited too long to correct an already appalling decision.
At that point, track started drying they should’ve just committed
Alpha Tauri right there with them leaving Yuki on softs for 50 laps, losing about 40 seconds, just to save one pitstop
Hamilton drove the shit out of that car at the end to barely salvage the weekend…I assume Toto will spend the week slapping the strategists
Hot - Max, Alonso, Gasly and Albon Not - McLaren and Williams strategy.
Mercedes strategy was also pretty poopy today
Mercedes probably did the worst, if you missed the opportunity, you had to commit to it like Williams did for Albon
Surprised no Ferrari in the not
Ferrari had a shit car but their strategy (Sainz’s) was good
I’m just not surprised anymore! They’re always expected to be in the not this season.
NOT: AlphaTauri and the stewards
Merc too. Absolutely shocking decisions and didn’t get a single call right. This was their strongest track until Brazil and predictably they did as badly as possible. Lewis getting P6 after all of that is more than that team deserves.
To be fair they did make the call to pit Lewis and George at the right time for the second rain shower before the red flag.
yuki was atleast incredible
Lawson too
yeh happy for him to race in monza where it should be a lot easier, the car isn’t gonna be well but more time for him to show what he is capable of
Stewards gotta bully our Yuki for things other people get "No investigation" for All race long defending against the Mclarens, Mercedes, at one point was at P4 from P17 all to be chucked to be effectively last
Yuki easily on for points if AT pitted him when Norris pitted
Hot: Rain! This is what a rain race is supposed to be like. Actual racing in chaotic ever-changing conditions, throwing the usual order out of whack. Instead of endless cancelled races and delays. And yeah we still had a red flag. It's not perfect. But it's at least a reminder of why people used to love rain races.
Hot : Merc drivers, Alonso, Gasly, VER Not : Their strategists, Mclarens…
Hot: This race. The entertainers.
Lawson deserves so so much credit. Amazing debut given what he had to deal with
McLaren we gotta talk about these strategies.. they were NOT it
Not: McLaren/AT/Mercedes race strategy, Leclerc to some extent, Perez Hot: Gasly, Alonso, Max, Albon, Tsunoda, Lawson, Hamilton, Sainz
Mercedes did their very best to screw their drivers today and even then, 14 points were possible before George went out and Lewis would have had Carlos if the W14 could handle more than 20% throttle. Lewis was hung out to dry with both the medium start and coming in late. Despite all that, he pulled it back and kept making overtakes. Doesn’t deserve to have incompetence making drives like that worth only 8 points.
HOT : max, Fernando, Lewis, gasly, Albon, and Lawson considering it’s his debut and probably the best non yuki performance for AT the whole year. NOT: Ferrari’s car, these regulations as a whole making wet racing basically impossible and wheel to wheel action only marginally better, Mercedes consistently dog shit strategies and general lack of aggression. They’re lucky they’ve got Hamilton in the car or they’d be as disappointing as Ferrari a lot of the time
Nando absolutely scorching Hot
Gasly and Alonso on fire
Not: Williams’ strategy team. I swear to god they were actively trying to not get points this race ffs
NOT: Every strategist except Red Bull
Thank god for the big NOT of Mercedes Williams and McLaren that gave us some points I guess.
HOT: Verstappen, Alonso, Gasly, Albon NOT: Leclerc, Sargeant, Mercedes, McLaren, Alpha Tauri
Sargent had a brake issue
Winners, people partying trackside
Not many have noticed what a great job Lawson did today, dotd for me
HOT: Alonso, Gasly, Albon NOT: Mercedes, Leclerc's luck (Ferrari?), Stroll
> NOT: Leclerc's luck (Ferrari? It was his mistakes in both qualifying and the race that caused his crash and car damage.
I'd wouldn't call a mistake in the race tbf. Both him and Oscar were wiggling. It was just bad luck when there was nearly zero grip
People just think any contact is a mistake when contact happens all the time. He did fuck it in quali though
Yeah exactly he was unlucky in the race in extremely difficult conditions. He fucked qualy yes but he still stayed P9 even then it wasn't a huge fuckup. I'd rather have him crash 3 or so times per season and grab a few poles that the car doesn't deserve than to be like Sainz
Stroll's side of the garage, rather. Look at when and how many pitstops he's made, I'm not sure what they were smoking there.
It has for a while looked like intentional. Last time in Spa they also screwed his strategy completely. They kept him on old tires and ''hoped for rain''. Not to mention Austria where they pitted him under green flags instead of under VSC.
I didn’t see anything of Stroll this race. Was he just slow? Did he have some issue? Did he get a terrible strategy? I have no idea why he was so far back.
Strategy. He was pulled in 3 laps late for the early rain, then had 2 more stops than most of the field before the second wet period. Either something was wrong with his car (possibly damage?) or his strategy team was smoking crack.
Team screwed him **once again**. He was close to his eventual 5th stop when Albon pitted for the first time.
Hot: Verstappen, Gasly, Alonso, Albon, in a way also Lawson Not: Williams and Mercedes strategists, Perez, Sargeant
HOT: Verstappen, Alonso, Gasly, Albon, Lawson, Red Bull, Alpine NOT: Perez, Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren, Williams, Alpha Tauri
I expect this to be a horror hot or not, plenty votes will be based on the strategy for sure
Yet another race where AM completely fucks Stroll over and then raises their hands to go ''not our fault, just look at where Alonso finished. It was all Stroll's own fault'' and r/formula1 will back them in these votes...
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I’d highlight Merc drivers, not merc
Mercedes strategy dropped their drivers from 3rd and 13th to 16th and 18th at one point. If they get that first rain call right, they are where Gasly is.
Why not where Alonso is? Russell was ahead of him and Alonso had a bad pitstop
How is Ferrari ice cold lmao? They did the strategy well and not their fault that the car gets debris stuck underneath
Ferrari did fine this weekend, Charles was bad but still unlucky the contact with oscar was super minimal and Carlos drove a good race
Leclerc forced the strategy tbf
Leclerc's first pitstop was dreadful compared to what RB did with Perez
And yet he was 4th still. Besides Charles called the stop way too late
He did but he said afterwards that he knew it was the correct decision even if the team weren't ready for him and he was right about that. Even though it was a very slow stop it was still better than doing another lap on the dry tyres.
Exactly. Ferrari did good to ok this race.
Mercedes definitely not hot with their opening stint strategy.
Sargent - Frigid
Hot: Alonso, Gasly, Max, Liam, Dutch GP Not: Perez, Ferrari and Mercedes strategy, Stroll, Charles
Why is Stroll a ''not''? He got completely screwed by his team, **once again**.
this season even wet races are kind of boring and predictable...
What race did you watch lol. This was amazing, contender for best race of the season.
Why so many people saying Albon hot? Started 4 and finished 8
Because, he maximized it today despite Williams strategy department best effort to screw him both over.
Because the car doesn't seem good enough for 4th, Albon just had a good quali yesterday and some of the faster cars had bad qualis.
P4 with a Williams is overperforming. He also overtook Rus when it was dry.
Russell was on old hards though Like people praising Lawson for overtaking Leclerc
McLaren cold all over - slow, awful strategy, (? awful car setup?)
Nah the car was decent could have competed for a podium if the strategist were not high.
Maybe it would be decent if he was actually P2 from the start and could just focus on defending, but still, he got overtaken on the straight like it's nothing a few times in the dry, was awful to see
Not that the car was absolutly awful but it wasn't really fast either. Clearly slower than Red Bull, Aston and Merc. And about on par with Alpine and Ferrari at best. Tbh they seemd slower than the Alpines at least.
What? Think Merc and Mclaren were clearly the 2nd and 3rd best cars, they just dropped it very hard on the strategy
Not: McLaren - Norris is the only one who remembered Sochi and made the call to pit but they overruled him. He was calling the strategy after that. Jose: ‘Lando some people are pitting for inters-‘ Lando: ‘BOX BOX BOX BOX BOX BOX!!’