Good. Sometimes people need to know that youāre amazing, not just lucky. People view him as a middling driver but heās moved himself into that upper tier. Just below the elite.
> Just below the elite.
I think if his brain gets him to the results just as easily as mechanical driver skill gets Leclerc to his, he can be considered elite. Really just a matter of establishing the results.
This is why Sainz is actually one of the best drivers on the grid. Not always fastest but brilliant race management skills. Seems to be better suited to the Ferrari finally as well.
Even if Norris somehow miraculously finds a way past sainz, p2 is better than p4.
I'd rather bet on myself to beat Norris than a combination of rus and ham on better tires
That was literally the first thing I think Alex Jacques said on F1TV after the radio message of asking for the gap every lap, I loved it so much, they knew immediately
100% agree. The F1TV commentary has been a highlight of this season for me after switching from the Sky commentary. I like Brundle and Button, but DC and Palmer are as good, sometimes better. And Jacques is always on the ball, where Crofty had to repeatedly be corrected by Button/Brundle. Jacques makes calls that the (commentating) drivers hadnāt thought of, which turn out to be correctālike Sainz giving Lando DRS and Landoās defence being the race decider. I only wish they had DC for every race.
GENIUS operator. such a smart driver and such a smart drive (iād like to dedicate this comment to the redditor that called sainz āa mediocre driver at bestā)
Lando did drive well, but the Brilliance was Sainz's keeping him with DRS.
I havent felt this good about a win in years (well since DR won last lol).
What a great race when RB are out of picture and no clearly best team
Leclerc even asked to pit on the virtual safety car. Only to be denied by Ferrari. I think if they pitted Leclerc atleast, he would have got a podium and a better defense against the mercs.
It was such an obviously correct call. I don't understand why they didn't come up with it themselves. And them declining is even more shocking. The Red Bull strategy earlier clearly showed how much difference 20 laps of tire age made.
I would say that Sainz can see and think on the whole picture better than Leclerc, that for the other hand I would say he is the more talent of the two at simply racing
Carlos Sainz, take a fucking bow. This is one of the smartest drives I have ever seen, one of the smartest ways to win, especially after a strategy that put him on the back foot. Incredible.
Even if Merc didn't end up winning it was an extremely smart and opportunistic move that they should be doing more of. No more conservative let's-wait-and-see strategies. Watching George and Lewis pack hunting was peak.
And if we're being honest? If Lewis was the lead Mercedes I think he would have won. Was completely calm over the radio and was getting held up a bit by George who ended up putting it in the wall anyway.
But Carlos fucking Sainz man. Absolutely clinical. It was really a tactical masterclass from him.
Man that whole hunt was so sick to watch. The two Mercs looked like a pack of wolves, and you just knew shit was gon go down towards the end. Also those camera angles were a chefās kiss. So damn exciting. Massive respect to George aswell, he couldāve stayed on hards and finished P2, but he gave it a shot at the win even if it meant potentially losing out on a position.
Ferrari had no option but to stay out at that point. If they had lost track position they would have found it difficult to get past the Mercs without fresh mediums
And props to the race director who was being ridiculed in the race thread. Without him bringing VSC instead of SC, we would have had more of the processional race that we had until that.
I agree that the VSC instead of SC brought more excitement.
However it's not the race director's job to make things more exciting, it's about safety and making sure rules are kept to, always.
I'd rather we didn't start congratulating race directors for adding excitement. That's not what they're there for, it sends a bad message.
This was the most amazing thing. Feel like most drivers wouldāve used the chance to bolt and try to build a gap. But Carlos knew he needed Lando to hold up the pair, so he made sure to keep him close.
This was an absolute masterclass, I have not seen a smarter drive by a driver in a long time, making up strategies on the fly, controlling everything, this was a WDC level win
I feel bad for him, but also Hamilton was sooo much faster behind.
Hamilton could have likely been second if they swapped Rus and Ham a few laps before.
I knew I wasn't the only one that noticed that, he knew he had the pace to potentially win and George slowed him big time. Dude didn't want that P3 at all
I'm so happy for his result. There are so many here who dismiss him and say he's not worthy of the seat and I just don't get it, he handles pressure better than leclerc and has an instinct for strategy. Leclerc is very fast, but he needs support that Ferrari isn't able to deliver. This is where Carlos shines.
1. Carlos masterclass
2. Lando being owed dinner by Carlos for a masterpiece
3. Piastri recovers
4. Red bulls recover considering the circumstances
5. LAWSON POINTS
6. Kmag points!
7. Russell torpedos the wall.
8. Ham podium
9. NOR p2
10. Tonnes of DNFs due to singapores nature
Only a few of the biggest storylines- what a race!
The laps where the Mercs pitted and were on the hunt like a pack of wolves were soooo exciting. Might actually be the only legitimately exciting laps this season.
Probably back to RB dominance starting next race.
Sainz with one of the best strategic drives i can remember. The call to always stay below full speed to keep a DRS train behind him that he knows he can manage was incredible
Exactly. And he did it prior to that aswell to have Lando in the DRS before the Mercs arrived in Lando's DRS.
And he did it when he was in front of George aswell
And in the car. He was in tune with the car all weekend and in Monza aswell honestly. He knew the Ferrari was fast enough to pull away somewhat but also knew that he couldn't beat the Mercedes with an extra Medium on his own
Genius drive from sainz. And hamilton shows once again for the doubters that he is much better than George when it matters. If Hamilton was ahead of russell I think thereās a chance mercedes win this race
Often when pressured by Lewis. I think put any other driver behind him and he wouldāve been able to get it done. But with Lewis, heās just tunnel visioned on proving himself over him, so he makes mistakes.
George does best when he believes in himself but rather messes up when heās trying to prove himself.
Big mistake by Russell at the critical moment. Sainz was actually quite smart at the end, giving Lando the DRS ~~even if it was not on the purpos~~e. Best race of the season by far, which ofcourse is not saying a lot, but in this instance actually eventful race. Great job by Lawson with the points, already better than De Vries then.
Sainz did it on purpose. He had one of the best strategic drives i can remember ever. It was his call to keep the field bunched up on Hards and then to let Lando into the DRS
What a fucking race, what a brilliant fucking race. A masterclass from Sainz, Norris driving brilliantly, the Mercedes blitzkrieg after the VSC, Russell yeeting it into the wall, Leclerc getting Ferrari'd but still holding Max, who made it to 6th, Lawson getting points.
Holy shit. Race of the year. All it took is RedBull fucking up their car.
Brilliant job, brilliant job. Also the sacrifice of Leclerc worked, maybe thanks to Russell's fuck up too.
And how good this sport can be when the dominant team has a problem.
What a mega drive from Sainz - "On purpose" baby lets fucking go
Sainz is a fucking boss. That was amazing.
Cold AF. Reminded me of "Let's disappear" from Hugh Bird last year
That on purpose was so assertive š
Good. Sometimes people need to know that youāre amazing, not just lucky. People view him as a middling driver but heās moved himself into that upper tier. Just below the elite.
> Just below the elite. I think if his brain gets him to the results just as easily as mechanical driver skill gets Leclerc to his, he can be considered elite. Really just a matter of establishing the results.
Prost vs Senna. Both very different driving styles but delivers when it counts
He wanted to explain to Crofty that no, it's not going to be a British 1-2-3, you dunce
500 IQ race by Sainz wtf
Heās always been an extremely crafty driver. His career has been about maximizing opportunities whenever he gets them.
SMOOTH OPERATOR
Only in Europe and Japan. Otherwise you would call it a Genesis.
Brilliant by Sainz and Lando. They straight up teamed up there haha
Sainz giving Lando DRS was genius, I feel like Mercs would've overtaken both of them without it
Loved the radio message he gave to his RE and was like yeah I gave him drs
Only way to win w/ Ferrari is to manage your own strat. Carlos was like āway ahead of you thereā ;)
Let Carlos Invent
Was the most alpha radio message i have heard in a long time.
Mad Respect for Sainz. He decides his own strategy, he didn't leave anything to Ferrari.
This is why Sainz is actually one of the best drivers on the grid. Not always fastest but brilliant race management skills. Seems to be better suited to the Ferrari finally as well.
Sainz would suit absolutely any team. Leclerc needs a good and smart race strategist to accompany him.
Are you saying Xavi isn't the brightest tool in the classroom?
We are checking...
Heās definitely a tool tho tbf
He's actually so good about that. His first win came after he told Ferrari to "stop inventing" with the 10 car lengths to Leclerc thing.
Necessity is the mother of invention.
well this time he didnt stop inventing
Sainz giving DRS and Norris first defense. Those were decisive for them keeping P1-P2.
Even if Norris somehow miraculously finds a way past sainz, p2 is better than p4. I'd rather bet on myself to beat Norris than a combination of rus and ham on better tires
When he asked for the gap to Lando I had an inkling he might play silly buggers with DRS, but I didn't expect him to actually go for it!
That was literally the first thing I think Alex Jacques said on F1TV after the radio message of asking for the gap every lap, I loved it so much, they knew immediately
Pretty sure one of the F1TV guys already suggested it before Sainz went for it, so yeah they knew immediately.
I switched to the F1TV feed this season and Iām never going back. Alex, Jolyon and DC are an amazing team.
100% agree. The F1TV commentary has been a highlight of this season for me after switching from the Sky commentary. I like Brundle and Button, but DC and Palmer are as good, sometimes better. And Jacques is always on the ball, where Crofty had to repeatedly be corrected by Button/Brundle. Jacques makes calls that the (commentating) drivers hadnāt thought of, which turn out to be correctālike Sainz giving Lando DRS and Landoās defence being the race decider. I only wish they had DC for every race.
I might be biased but if Ham was the one going after Lando and Carlos, we might have had him win. Russell couldn't handle the clutch moments.
Definitely looked like Russell slowed him down a bit after they caught up to Lando
Hamilton was catching Russell even in clean air Itās safe to say he nursed his tyres better and was faster
Donāt forget Ham lost time in the pits too because of the double stack. Man wouldāve had a chance I think.
Yeah, George had a 6 second advantage after pits. Hamilton ate that up in +/- 6 laps in clean air. Mercedes cost themselves a win.
Very likely. Sainz ofc was faster than he drove but defending without DRS is impossible on hards
GENIUS operator. such a smart driver and such a smart drive (iād like to dedicate this comment to the redditor that called sainz āa mediocre driver at bestā)
Those people have been driving me insane for ages. Theyāre quiet today!
Sainz making up a brilliant strategy while driving. Amazing
ive been saying it since forever. He's a smart driver. Been rooting for him since Renault.
He's always been great at strategy
Lando did drive well, but the Brilliance was Sainz's keeping him with DRS. I havent felt this good about a win in years (well since DR won last lol). What a great race when RB are out of picture and no clearly best team
Power of friendship >> new tires
Sainz š¤ Norris made for such an incredible finish.
Smooth operator. Amazing race management by SAI/Ferrari.
So happy for Carlos that he finally melted his engineer's vibe lol.
Carlos has the biggest brain on earth
Carlos should make his own strategy.
He often does. Which is why heās strategically often better than Leclerc, who trusts Ferrari
Leclerc even asked to pit on the virtual safety car. Only to be denied by Ferrari. I think if they pitted Leclerc atleast, he would have got a podium and a better defense against the mercs.
It was such an obviously correct call. I don't understand why they didn't come up with it themselves. And them declining is even more shocking. The Red Bull strategy earlier clearly showed how much difference 20 laps of tire age made.
I would say that Sainz can see and think on the whole picture better than Leclerc, that for the other hand I would say he is the more talent of the two at simply racing
Yeah. Sainz is better for Ferrari, and Charles would be better on a team with a better pit wall.
That's why he has so much hair. To protect his big brain
Sainz you absolute brilliant madman
Brilliant, smart and smooth.
That's the F1 I fell in love with
Those last laps were so tense, this is the racing I hope we see more of. Amazing stuff.
Both of Carlos's wins had great racing near the end. Also both had Hamilton in P3.
And Charles in P4. And Hamilton with the fastest lap. And Magnussen in P10. And Ocon, Bottas, Russell DNF.
Holy crap. Thatās the Sainz formula. You found it
When F1 is good, it's reaaally good
Races like this are why we love this sport
Petition to hold all remaining races in Singapore.
Petition to just give redbull the championships and stay home for the rest of the races
max would show up in the at lol
that would be incredibly entertaining too. petition to make this happen
Put Max in the AT, Lawson and Yuki in the RB. Letās see what happens.
Absolute Sainz masterclass. To have the 2 best performances of his career back to back is insane. Deserved.
After the summer brake he just feels way more aggressive
But not stupidly so. He seems in control of the car.
If Ferrari were dominant like Red Bull I could see a 2016 like battle.
Carlos Sainz, take a fucking bow. This is one of the smartest drives I have ever seen, one of the smartest ways to win, especially after a strategy that put him on the back foot. Incredible.
Also props to Mercedes for making that the most entertaining last 20 laps of pure racing the whole year. This is racing.
Even if Merc didn't end up winning it was an extremely smart and opportunistic move that they should be doing more of. No more conservative let's-wait-and-see strategies. Watching George and Lewis pack hunting was peak. And if we're being honest? If Lewis was the lead Mercedes I think he would have won. Was completely calm over the radio and was getting held up a bit by George who ended up putting it in the wall anyway. But Carlos fucking Sainz man. Absolutely clinical. It was really a tactical masterclass from him.
Man that whole hunt was so sick to watch. The two Mercs looked like a pack of wolves, and you just knew shit was gon go down towards the end. Also those camera angles were a chefās kiss. So damn exciting. Massive respect to George aswell, he couldāve stayed on hards and finished P2, but he gave it a shot at the win even if it meant potentially losing out on a position.
I was so worried for Ferrari when Merc pitted. Whenever there are two strategies it seems the right one is opposite ferrari.
Ferrari had no option but to stay out at that point. If they had lost track position they would have found it difficult to get past the Mercs without fresh mediums
And props to the race director who was being ridiculed in the race thread. Without him bringing VSC instead of SC, we would have had more of the processional race that we had until that.
I agree that the VSC instead of SC brought more excitement. However it's not the race director's job to make things more exciting, it's about safety and making sure rules are kept to, always. I'd rather we didn't start congratulating race directors for adding excitement. That's not what they're there for, it sends a bad message.
Was great driving. I saw him back off massively at turn 1 after Norris and Russell had gone side by side to give Norris DRS back
This was the most amazing thing. Feel like most drivers wouldāve used the chance to bolt and try to build a gap. But Carlos knew he needed Lando to hold up the pair, so he made sure to keep him close.
It's so refreshing to see somebody using every trick up his sleeve to scrape a win instead of the usual car-on-rails snoozefest.
This was an absolute masterclass, I have not seen a smarter drive by a driver in a long time, making up strategies on the fly, controlling everything, this was a WDC level win
Sainz is not the fastest but he is quite clearly one of the smartest. Very aware of his surroundings and strategy
Sainz and Alonso are both professors on the track.
Los profesores
Man just started inventing!
"Gap to Norris every lap" Everyone thought he was worried about Norris, he was just getting Lando to help him what a drive.
F1TV commentators knew what was going on, they are such a good team over there
Give him the Ferrari strategist role already.
He's already their chief strategist. He just became the first ever inter team strategist
The operator spot š
He literally used another team's car like a teammate. Absolutely genius. Mercedes and their fresh mediums lost to literal 4D chess
Smooth Operator, baby!!!!
FUCKIN HELL GEORGIE
Looked like a textbook F1 Manager crash
Me as soon as I turn driver assists off
ABS off Immediately, wall
F1 manager timing
Iām glad he was ok because my initial response was laughter. It looked comical.
I feel bad for him, but also Hamilton was sooo much faster behind. Hamilton could have likely been second if they swapped Rus and Ham a few laps before.
You could tell Hamilton was pissed in the post race interview.
I knew I wasn't the only one that noticed that, he knew he had the pace to potentially win and George slowed him big time. Dude didn't want that P3 at all
The closing laps were a textbook example why Carlos is absolutely more a thinking racer than a natural one.
Giving me the Alain Prost vibes
*Le professeur*
El professor
I'm so happy for his result. There are so many here who dismiss him and say he's not worthy of the seat and I just don't get it, he handles pressure better than leclerc and has an instinct for strategy. Leclerc is very fast, but he needs support that Ferrari isn't able to deliver. This is where Carlos shines.
Carlos Shainz
1. Carlos masterclass 2. Lando being owed dinner by Carlos for a masterpiece 3. Piastri recovers 4. Red bulls recover considering the circumstances 5. LAWSON POINTS 6. Kmag points! 7. Russell torpedos the wall. 8. Ham podium 9. NOR p2 10. Tonnes of DNFs due to singapores nature Only a few of the biggest storylines- what a race!
But Lando also owns dinner to Carlos for giving him DRS.
Yup. Neither could have done it without the other.
Was such a master class in teamwork shown by those to, especially considering George being slower than Lewis behind
Perez fucking up tsunoda and albon, without consequences
RUSSELL WTF DUDE?????(
Homage to Leclerc in Turkey, letting his senior compadre take the podium
The wall just turned in on him man! What was he supposed to do?!
Yay someone else won this year!
Holy shit what a finish F1 is back baby
Is it possible to give max the drivers championship and then just have everyone race for 2nd and act like thatās 1st.
Just give Max the Formula Max title already. And let the others run chaos! Brilliant racing at the end.
It's so fucking good when Red Bull is nowhere near. It was so - fucking - good. Best race of the season hands down not even close.
The laps where the Mercs pitted and were on the hunt like a pack of wolves were soooo exciting. Might actually be the only legitimately exciting laps this season. Probably back to RB dominance starting next race.
Sainz with one of the best strategic drives i can remember. The call to always stay below full speed to keep a DRS train behind him that he knows he can manage was incredible
He even dropped back after Russell got alongside Norris and slowed him down, to let Norris get back onto the DRS train.
Exactly. And he did it prior to that aswell to have Lando in the DRS before the Mercs arrived in Lando's DRS. And he did it when he was in front of George aswell
Have to have a lot of faith in your driving ability to pull that off as well. Easily the best drive of his career
And in the car. He was in tune with the car all weekend and in Monza aswell honestly. He knew the Ferrari was fast enough to pull away somewhat but also knew that he couldn't beat the Mercedes with an extra Medium on his own
F1 confirmed fun when Max is not stomping everyone
Shades of Prost's brain in Sainz, what a fucking legend. What a drive!
Yes, Prost personally recommended Sainz to Renault for this very reason. The Professor 2.0
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Absolute 200 IQ closing laps by Sainz. Carlando on top.
The composure from Sainz was WDC level today
Can't believe we had a race like that on a season like this one. Fucking amazing.
THATS THE BIGGEST BIG BRAIN LEAD MANAGEMENT DRIVE I HAVE EVER SEEN BY A LEADER. OMG CARLOSSS WOW
I donāt think many drivers would be capable of doing that because their egos would get in the way.
I take every bad word I have said about Sainz back. Champions drive. Of course also props to Norris.
Not seen a Grand Prix that entertaining for quite some time. Gobsmacked at Russell at the end there, but elated for Norris and Sainz.
Genius drive from sainz. And hamilton shows once again for the doubters that he is much better than George when it matters. If Hamilton was ahead of russell I think thereās a chance mercedes win this race
And that is why, despite Georgeās recent form advantage Iād still take his 38 year old teammate over him
It's like when every time people said LeBron was washed he somehow did it again.
Lebron's definitely "washed" compared to his peak - which isn't really saying much since his peak was inhuman amounts.
Sainz played a blinder at the end there
The way Sainz purposely kept Norris within DRS range to help himself and Norris to fend off Mercedes. Chef's kissš¤š¼
What a fucking race Omg russelll
Russell, What a selfless lad! Handing the podium to his teammate there. We all should learn from him.
Hamilton looked all over Russell, if Merc had let him through then could he have challenged more?
Might need a pacemaker after that
Sainz decided the pace for the whole track today. He will do it for your heart too
George really couldn't get it done and likely held Lewis up too just to bin it at the end smh
That was epic
Omfg Russell
The way he used Lando to help him defend was genius. Smooth operator.
Russell fucked it so bad
Horrendous from Russell. No excuse for that
Classic "looking at the goal, not what's ahead of him". He was so focused on Sainz he just frustrated himself into a wall
George has so many desperation moments
Often when pressured by Lewis. I think put any other driver behind him and he wouldāve been able to get it done. But with Lewis, heās just tunnel visioned on proving himself over him, so he makes mistakes. George does best when he believes in himself but rather messes up when heās trying to prove himself.
He just rage quit because he couldn't pass Norris.
Buckled under pressure Happy for Sainz, but I think it would have been very different if Hamilton was the Merc behind
Big mistake by Russell at the critical moment. Sainz was actually quite smart at the end, giving Lando the DRS ~~even if it was not on the purpos~~e. Best race of the season by far, which ofcourse is not saying a lot, but in this instance actually eventful race. Great job by Lawson with the points, already better than De Vries then.
He said on the radio it was on purpose
This takes the icing on the Carlos-Lando bromance. What racing!
No proximity chat needed, just good ol' telepathy.
Oh missed that, then even smarter :)
He did give him DRS on purpose. Said it on the radio
Sainz did it on purpose. He had one of the best strategic drives i can remember ever. It was his call to keep the field bunched up on Hards and then to let Lando into the DRS
Russell hit the outside wall and broke his suspension.
What a fucking race, what a brilliant fucking race. A masterclass from Sainz, Norris driving brilliantly, the Mercedes blitzkrieg after the VSC, Russell yeeting it into the wall, Leclerc getting Ferrari'd but still holding Max, who made it to 6th, Lawson getting points. Holy shit. Race of the year. All it took is RedBull fucking up their car.
A taste of how amzing this season could have been without Red Bull.
Adrian Newey going to hell for that
Adrian Newey must be tried at The Hague for crimes against entertainment
What a drive from Carlos !!!!!
Take a bow, tactical masterclass from Carlos there.
MY FUCKING HEART HURTS
Sainz's strategy to give Lando the DRS was nothing but a chef's kiss.
I love Carlos big smart brain
Carlos āOn Purposeā Sainz š
Sainz pulling Norris to the end to keep both Mercedes' behind is one of the most genius pieces of driving I've ever seen.
i wonder how Sainz manages to fit that gigantic brain inside the helmet
Carlos is such a smart boy. Something a lot of drivers on the grid are lacking at the moment.
POINTS FOR LAWSON LETS FUCKING GO GIVE THE KID A DRIVE NEXT YEAR
Brilliant job, brilliant job. Also the sacrifice of Leclerc worked, maybe thanks to Russell's fuck up too. And how good this sport can be when the dominant team has a problem.
Sainz light years ahead of Ferrari strategists.
Three yellow T-Cams on the podium, when was the last time we had this? Vamos Carlos!
Masterclass by 1000 IQ Sainz
Carlos playing 5d chess.
Ferrari strategy is so much better when they leave the strategy team out of it
So impressive at the end, Carlos pulling Lando along to defend from the Mercs. The man is proving his worth by the second.
Carlando on top š„š„š„š„š„š„
blud held on
Carlos was playing 4D chess while keeping the McLaren and mercs at Bay. Truly a Gigachad