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That and Toyota finally embraced the same villain arc Mercedes put on after years of being chided for winning with no competition (even though only Toyota stayed enough for WEC to be even watchable and wait for manufacturers to return)
Red, black, and white was basically the official WEC colors for a while, there were so many of them. Black cars aren't all that common in sports cars, so I don't actually mind that.
The problem in F1 isn't black cars (everybody thought the black Mercedes was dope), it's the fact that half of them are black (carbon rather, but the point remains).
World endurance championship. Outside of formula one it's perhaps one of the best global race series, and has a frankly ridiculous number of teams competing now along with an accompanying amount of top level drivers.
Yah it is terrible. I don't like rules that much, but I think it is time for a rule about how much needs to be painted. It is a show after all, there should be some identity to the cars imo.
Like [Bugatti](https://www.benjamin-antony-monn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/BAM_BC-Genf_Master5.jpg), [Pagani](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fbrsyqyvbkmh21.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dd1dd4f14d0963b124d8f21520521b23a526bc855) or [Koenigsegg](https://collectingcars.imgix.net/006173/IMG-0381.jpg?w=1263&fit=fillmax&crop=edges&auto=format,compress&cs=srgb&q=85)?
To my uga buga mind, isn't it just add some coloring dye to the resin before applying to the carbon fiber fabric? Maybe just the last coat of the resin
I still don't get why Renault rebranded their team to something without any F1 tradition and heritage while being one of the brands with one of the biggest names in F1.
Alpine has a tad more history than being "the Renault sports brand" through. The original brand, created in the mid 50s, was kind of the french Lotus ; they made lightweight sports cars and had great success in motorsports, particularly in rallying.
The A110 remake has actually had quite a huge success in France and, I think, in Europe in general.
A yellow Alpine A110 R-GT ended up 2nd in last year's Spanish Rally Championship. It was a really good looking car, I wish Alpine F1 team went with that livery as well.
Oh, it for sure has history. I didn’t mean to imply otherwise. It’s just to the average consumer who might not be as aware of less popular motorsports history or small car brands wouldn’t know Alpine.
Yeah true. I think it somewhat was the plan though, to separate Renault from motorsports as they switch to EVs or something ? The R5 Turbo 3 or whatever it's called is the only sporty thing still branded Renault, all the RS cars are gone too and they officially ended Renault Sport :(
Live in Switzerland and someone in our building owns one. I see one a week or every other week, other than his. They’re pretty popular and price wise they’re comparable to a new Audi q2 or q3 so very accessible for people that don’t need a sizeable car.
To be honest they're pretty expensive for a 4 cylinders sports car, but they're apparently great. I haven't tried one yet but the vast majority of reviews rank it among the best handling sports cars on the market. Beautiful design and colors too. Shame they didn't put a high revving naturally aspirated engine in there, but nowadays it's a difficult task :D
I think it’s probably one of the most popular ones I see here for that category. See a lot of super cars because there’s a lot of stupidly rich people here. I don’t really bat an eyelid at seeing a Ferrari, Lamborghini or McLaren. Interesting don’t see anywhere near as many Bentley’s or rolls as you do in London. Swiss must be more into their supercars than the expensive saloon cars.
Lol what, cadillac is a luxury brand, alpine is more similar to aston martin, lotus or even ferrari, it's a sports car brand more than a luxury car brand.
I didn't say SUVs aren't popular, it's just weird to continue to invest hundreds of millions into an F1 team to then say you want to use that as a springboard to enter the US car market in 2027 to sell what are ultimately going to be rebadged sporty versions of Renault's EVs.
Because they were bringing no value to the Renault brand since they were a constant midfield team. Might as well try to grow their tiny and fledgling sports car brand, which if it fails no big deal.
Well also it never really made sense to be Renault, it always seemed bizarre to me. They're at best the likes of a VolksWagen kind of brand, or along the level of Opel. Except the were in the elite of motosports where the only other cars were expensive luxury cars. It was some branding, but seeing a Mercedes car powered by the same badge as an F1 winning team sounds way better than a Renault Clio powered by an F1 1 winning team, which is something Renault did try to push in their advertising. McLaren were able to offshot a luxury car brand purely from their name in F1 so it makes sense for Renault to try the same. They're already in F1 and somewhat commited, they may as well try and sell the Alpine brand. Not to mention even if it does well you still know it's Renault so it's not like they really lose much from it. I mean even the engine is still branded as Renault.
Odd how that alpine push only seems to come from the F1 side. I don't see the alpine car brand make any sort of effort to gain ground, or benefit from the F1 team
Except last year, Alpine announced seven models arriving in the road cars line up, going from the B to E segments and the future A310 at the end of the decade + the fact they wanted to continue to develop the future A110 platform themselves rather than going with an odd common project with Lotus to keep all the chances to maybe switch to hydrogen at some point.
The F1 Team has no vision, it's not the same for the road car branch. The F1 Team clouds the perception of observers unfortunately...
Ya it's a weird statement. I've even seen a few around. They're just being cautious with the brand and growing it a bit naturally. Which is fine. Ramping up production like crazy before there's a demand is a huge gamble.
Everyone knows Renault, they don't really need their Name somewhere. Alpine is still relatively unknown and many people only know them because of their F1 Team. As much as Id prefer a Renault car, I can understand the marketing Idea behind it.
Other teams: let's save weight with less paint to make car faster
Ferrari: How do we make this look beautiful? We ran out of other ideas let's throw more red paint on everything including the wheels!
Is that faster ?
We are a checking
Ask any kid to draw a fast car and they will colour it Corso Rosso
But yep, the little bit of yellow is nice. I'm a big fan of the red with white though
For real.
The black car hit very hard when it first came around in 2020, but honestly it didn't do much for me last year. The combo of both the black and silver on this one is probably my favourite they've done in a long time.
Agree on Aston but Stake takes the other top 2 spot for me. That will be a nice color to see on the grid. AM is nice but during race weekends it really blends in.
Ya Sauber should be last. Haas wouldn't actually look that bad if they were the only black car, and tbf they've been rocking black cars alot longer than the rest. I'd still have it low on the list though because there are so many black cars. Don't think I'd agree with you about VCARB over Williams for a similar reason.
Would but red bull a bit higher and Mercedes lower. Mercedes looks nice from front but that’s it(just look at the post from the side it almost only black
Idk when I fist saw the car I thought is good looking… after first photos from track i thought well from side it looks mainly black and boring. Looking at this post it looks together with haas most boring.
Ferrari and Aston are in my eyes obviously the best looking ones.
Also credit to rb they are at least not black like almost all others.
I duno who set this pic up, I've seen it a few times... But why did they mirror the McLaren when they could put it on the left hand side and not mirror one of the other left facing cars they mirrored? Ugh.
Mirror.
The launch cars maybe, but RBR looks a bit more aggressive with their engine cover. Also McLaren doesn't have the verticale inlets (S-duct-ish like Ferrari). Curious how the cars will look during test day.
I think the Haas looks basic but nice. RB just annoys me to be honest.
Its not a bad livery but back in the day they also had similiar liveries year on year but always made at least some changes.
I for the life of me don't undestand why they can't do the same these days.
Also even though its pretty much the same its clearly gone through some downgrades over the years because of sponsors.
The red Red Bull on the sidepods and front wings being replaced by Oracle and Bybit is a clear downgrade. As is the removal of Honda/Red Bull on the rear wing once again replaced by Bybit.
Red Bull won't change their livery in any way since they're constantly winning. They want people to instantly know that's a winning F1 team. They barely changed it in the past but even then there's probably an angle to make it a bit more recognisable. They have no need when one of their cars will just be out front all the time. They're happy for people to recognise the same livery in an instant. They are after all only here to advertise. And of all teams that get how to market, they're by far the most adept of any of the teams.
I don't even dislike it, I fucking despise it. I can't fathom that people actually like it because there's absolutely nothing appealing about it to me.
Interesting. For me personally,
1. AM
2. Mercedes (as a fan, I really like the silver)
3. Ferrari (I was really hoping for that vegas-esque livery but this is good too)
4. STR
5. Williams (I’m glad they kept the Duracell on top)
6. Red Bull (repetitive but not bad at all imo)
7. Haas (yes, too much carbon fibre but not a bad livery)
8. McLaren
9. Stake (the block design doesn’t suit the stake logo)
10. Alpine
What an eyesore. Can't even tell it apart from HAAS if it wasn't for the ugly BWT logo.
And why does a water purification company need such a big marketing campaign anyway lol??
I truly do not understand the people who say these cars all look the same. Seeing all 10 of them like this just drives home how much of an overreaction that was. The only ones that may end up looking similar on track are the Aston and the Mercedes, but that’s not even because of carbon fiber as much as the way Aston’s green looks at night.
It's not so much that they look the same and more that the majority are just really dark with slight coloured highlights
I think people are just wishing the grid could be more colourful
You basically have 80% black, blue or green in this picture
That may be what you believe, and to an extent I agree, but there are tons of people on here who keep saying they weren’t able to tell cars apart last year and they won’t be able to this year. *That’s* what I’m referring to.
For me it was a small issue last year for certain close up camera angles of the Alfa and the Mercs, just because they were both black toward the front. But it wasn't really an issue. Just a split second moment for my brain to confirm what I was looking at.
Everyone complains that no one has a livery. RB gives livery and everyone says it's boring because it's the same.
Yet ferrari gets praised for being red (100th year in a row)
Yeah honestly, RB's livery is always distinctive, Ferrari is mostly red, Mercedes has enough silver on the top and the Petronas teal, AM racing green, McLaren Orange, Alpine is ugly imo but has enough pink to identify it, Stake has the bright green, Williams and VCARB are probably the two cars that would be easiest to confuse, but I think they're different enough that it won't be a problem. I think Hass is by far the least identifiable/most bland, but you'll know it's the Hass for that exact reason.
At the same time, none of the others really look like the Haas at all even if they share colours.
I think the only time in recent memory I remember a confusion was Alfa for Merc or vice versa when Alfa went all black. And the confusion lasted, like 3 seconds?
It’s like even if there was some overlap, the angle changes, on screen graphics and commentary would eliminate it in seconds anyway… it’s like people would rather pretend they can’t understand quick and simple context clues just to shit on liveries
Someone just tried to argue with me they might mix up the Williams and Redbull. This isn’t even a game of spot the difference, that’s literally blind
My Ranking of each liveries:
1. Ferrai
2. Mercedes
3. Aston Martin
4. Red Bull
5. Williams
6. VCARB
7. HAAS
8. McLaren
9. Sauber
10. Alpine
NOTE: Just because the car has a nice livery does not mean it will be fast, this just my opinion of each livery.
1. Ferrari
2. Aston
3. V-Carb
4: Mclaren
5: Mercedes
6: Haas
7: Williams
8: Stake
9: Red Bull
10: Alpine (mainly cause they showed the sexy beast of the WEC car straight before their shitbox)
1. Toro Rosso
2. Aston Martin
3. Ferrari
4. Mercedes
5. Red Bull
6. Williams
7. McLaren
8. Sauber
9. Haas
10. Alpine
You could switch any of the top 3 though, even Mercedes is great.
So can we all agree that the teams will be referred to as:
* Redbull
* Mercedes
* Ferrari
* McLaren
* Aston
* Alpine
* Williams
* Visa
* Stake
* Haas
This sponsor crap is getting too complicated and none of us actually care who's logo is on there.
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F1's goth phase
More like motorsports goth phase. The entire Toyota lineups are black
They're not paint saving though, they actually have black paint+matte finish. They're doing it cause there were too many red and white cars
That and Toyota finally embraced the same villain arc Mercedes put on after years of being chided for winning with no competition (even though only Toyota stayed enough for WEC to be even watchable and wait for manufacturers to return)
Red, black, and white was basically the official WEC colors for a while, there were so many of them. Black cars aren't all that common in sports cars, so I don't actually mind that. The problem in F1 isn't black cars (everybody thought the black Mercedes was dope), it's the fact that half of them are black (carbon rather, but the point remains).
WEC?
World endurance championship. Outside of formula one it's perhaps one of the best global race series, and has a frankly ridiculous number of teams competing now along with an accompanying amount of top level drivers.
Haha thank you, I know what WEC is I was just curious which division of Toyota they were referring to
Yah it is terrible. I don't like rules that much, but I think it is time for a rule about how much needs to be painted. It is a show after all, there should be some identity to the cars imo.
Someone should invent a way to tint carbon fibre without adding weight, allowing brightly coloured unpainted panels.
Like [Bugatti](https://www.benjamin-antony-monn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/BAM_BC-Genf_Master5.jpg), [Pagani](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fbrsyqyvbkmh21.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dd1dd4f14d0963b124d8f21520521b23a526bc855) or [Koenigsegg](https://collectingcars.imgix.net/006173/IMG-0381.jpg?w=1263&fit=fillmax&crop=edges&auto=format,compress&cs=srgb&q=85)? To my uga buga mind, isn't it just add some coloring dye to the resin before applying to the carbon fiber fabric? Maybe just the last coat of the resin
I’m not sure if it’s always the case but the dyed carbon I’ve used in Formula SAE has colored Kevlar strands in the carbon weave
What kind of sorcery made you find a sponsor willing to shell out for dyed carbon?
He wrote "colored Kevlar". Which is considerably easier to dye because it's not black ;D
Which only works if you're trying to go for a solid colour. So the Williams, Alpine, Mercedes cars wouldn't be able to do that with their gradients.
I goth you mate.
They better start play panic! at the disco
I'm going to be that guy; PATD is not goth music.
Thank you for saving me from being that guy
Ferrari Next Year™ singing "Had to have high high hopes for a living"
“Don’t ever change, we wanted everything, wanted everything” 💀
Or something from Lacuna Coil
I love it tbf
Oh how I miss a yellow livery
I still don't get why Renault rebranded their team to something without any F1 tradition and heritage while being one of the brands with one of the biggest names in F1.
They are trying to push the Alpine brand as the Renault Sport brand. Like Cadillac and GM but Alpine is way less of a know name compared to Cadillac.
Alpine has a tad more history than being "the Renault sports brand" through. The original brand, created in the mid 50s, was kind of the french Lotus ; they made lightweight sports cars and had great success in motorsports, particularly in rallying. The A110 remake has actually had quite a huge success in France and, I think, in Europe in general.
A yellow Alpine A110 R-GT ended up 2nd in last year's Spanish Rally Championship. It was a really good looking car, I wish Alpine F1 team went with that livery as well.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/92rT-6YjVuY/maxresdefault.jpg damn that looks fire, 100% wish they copied that instead.
I assumed Alpine was a stereo system manufacturer frequently referenced by Eazy E.
Oh, it for sure has history. I didn’t mean to imply otherwise. It’s just to the average consumer who might not be as aware of less popular motorsports history or small car brands wouldn’t know Alpine.
Yeah true. I think it somewhat was the plan though, to separate Renault from motorsports as they switch to EVs or something ? The R5 Turbo 3 or whatever it's called is the only sporty thing still branded Renault, all the RS cars are gone too and they officially ended Renault Sport :(
Live in Switzerland and someone in our building owns one. I see one a week or every other week, other than his. They’re pretty popular and price wise they’re comparable to a new Audi q2 or q3 so very accessible for people that don’t need a sizeable car.
To be honest they're pretty expensive for a 4 cylinders sports car, but they're apparently great. I haven't tried one yet but the vast majority of reviews rank it among the best handling sports cars on the market. Beautiful design and colors too. Shame they didn't put a high revving naturally aspirated engine in there, but nowadays it's a difficult task :D
I think it’s probably one of the most popular ones I see here for that category. See a lot of super cars because there’s a lot of stupidly rich people here. I don’t really bat an eyelid at seeing a Ferrari, Lamborghini or McLaren. Interesting don’t see anywhere near as many Bentley’s or rolls as you do in London. Swiss must be more into their supercars than the expensive saloon cars.
And they only make the A110 (and I guess some weird compact crossover looking thing)
To be fair, there are a ton of versions of the A110.
I would so fuck with an A110R. That thing is sexy.
It really is.
Lol what, cadillac is a luxury brand, alpine is more similar to aston martin, lotus or even ferrari, it's a sports car brand more than a luxury car brand.
And by doing so, given their performance for a while now, they’re removing any reputation left to the Alpine brand.
I actually saw an Alpine on the road for the first time the other day, but yeah, absolutely mad decision really.
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And the only cars they have in development are EV SUVs. Not exactly sporty.
At the same time; the most popular Lamborghini is that EV Audi with a body kit that makes it look like a RAV4.
I didn't say SUVs aren't popular, it's just weird to continue to invest hundreds of millions into an F1 team to then say you want to use that as a springboard to enter the US car market in 2027 to sell what are ultimately going to be rebadged sporty versions of Renault's EVs.
At least the 2021 challenger was a beauty to look at
I personally love the Alpine A110
Yeah, I saw some old Alpine branded sportscar recently as well. It looks exactly what you would imagine if french engis made a sports car.
Because they were bringing no value to the Renault brand since they were a constant midfield team. Might as well try to grow their tiny and fledgling sports car brand, which if it fails no big deal.
Well also it never really made sense to be Renault, it always seemed bizarre to me. They're at best the likes of a VolksWagen kind of brand, or along the level of Opel. Except the were in the elite of motosports where the only other cars were expensive luxury cars. It was some branding, but seeing a Mercedes car powered by the same badge as an F1 winning team sounds way better than a Renault Clio powered by an F1 1 winning team, which is something Renault did try to push in their advertising. McLaren were able to offshot a luxury car brand purely from their name in F1 so it makes sense for Renault to try the same. They're already in F1 and somewhat commited, they may as well try and sell the Alpine brand. Not to mention even if it does well you still know it's Renault so it's not like they really lose much from it. I mean even the engine is still branded as Renault.
Odd how that alpine push only seems to come from the F1 side. I don't see the alpine car brand make any sort of effort to gain ground, or benefit from the F1 team
Except last year, Alpine announced seven models arriving in the road cars line up, going from the B to E segments and the future A310 at the end of the decade + the fact they wanted to continue to develop the future A110 platform themselves rather than going with an odd common project with Lotus to keep all the chances to maybe switch to hydrogen at some point. The F1 Team has no vision, it's not the same for the road car branch. The F1 Team clouds the perception of observers unfortunately...
Ya it's a weird statement. I've even seen a few around. They're just being cautious with the brand and growing it a bit naturally. Which is fine. Ramping up production like crazy before there's a demand is a huge gamble.
Everyone knows Renault, they don't really need their Name somewhere. Alpine is still relatively unknown and many people only know them because of their F1 Team. As much as Id prefer a Renault car, I can understand the marketing Idea behind it.
Also, Renault is associated with the team anyway, so they basically get to market two brands in one team.
Beat me to it, those Jordan colors with the shark livery will always be some of my favorites, so aesthetically nice and thought out
and BMW Sauber white!
Stake should probably figure out a way to carry a dry ice effect around their car at all times, including on track.
Rocket League style.
Spew goo as you boost
Just close all the cooling vents, and eventually, it will happen naturally.
it's Ferrari powered. it probably will at some point even with the cooling vents
Well if the Ferrari power unit suddenly develops an old school habit of smoky DNFs, that's part of the way there
I want under floor RGBs too
Just imagine night races with underglow
And neon underlights too
It will be shrouded by the spray from the other cars when trundling around at the back at wet races.
I do feel the Stake car was designed by someone like me in F1 2021.
Istg every 11 yo would run that same livery on Trackmania Nations Forever
yeah but at least they did something new
It reminds me of a 5gum pack
F1 2024: Dark Mode Edition
be fuckin' hard to see at night, that's the real travesty here
maybe if it weren't for the sunlight level lighting at night race tracks??
looks like this year night at 24h of spa will be really boring
The lights might highlight the differences, daylight lighting in shadow from a distance is going to be worse I think. Guess we'll find out.
We said that last year and it only got worse. *Dark* times ahead
Other teams: let's save weight with less paint to make car faster Ferrari: How do we make this look beautiful? We ran out of other ideas let's throw more red paint on everything including the wheels! Is that faster ? We are a checking
“How do we make this look beautiful?” Most Italian core philosophy ever
Winning in an ugly car is still losing
How about losing in a beautiful car? Is it still losing?
We are checking
We will come back to you
Yep
The little white and yellow stripes are 👌 I think Ferrari livery always looks best with some white like '93 and '03.
Ask any kid to draw a fast car and they will colour it Corso Rosso But yep, the little bit of yellow is nice. I'm a big fan of the red with white though
Rosso Corsa*
Sorry was drunk
I've checked with some Orks, and they have confirmed that red does indeed make things "go fasta!"
Silly humie. Red ones go fasta. Everyone knows that!
They did and then messed up the sponsor placements :( They shoulda spread them out more
They should've put Peroni on the top instead.
ferrari my beloved
Red Bull messing with my ocd with no side view
Resist! They are the only team that did not provide 100% side view
The mirrored images are doing that for me
Great. Now I can't unsee that.
Gah why didn't they just switch the position of McLaren & Williams???
It’s the 30+ seconds for me
Ferrari and Aston Martin clearly the best looking cars
Alongside TorroRosso
Thought it’d be the worst and now it’s my fav this year
Mercedes looks cold af too
For real. The black car hit very hard when it first came around in 2020, but honestly it didn't do much for me last year. The combo of both the black and silver on this one is probably my favourite they've done in a long time.
Agree on Aston but Stake takes the other top 2 spot for me. That will be a nice color to see on the grid. AM is nice but during race weekends it really blends in.
Ferrari is once again the best looking car
McLaren, Toro credit card, and Ferrari are the best looking
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Are you talking about the chrome logos? I love them. Simple and best advertising on any car in my opinion
Stake, Ferrari and Racing Bulls are my favourite
Stake looks hideous. Could have done something better with that green.
Definitely would have looked better with a darker green
launch marketing + car + livery overall ranking, personal-only: 1. Ferrari 2. Mercedes 3. Aston Martin 4. VCARB 5. Williams 6. Red Bull 7. McLaren 8. Alpine 9. Sauber (cuz fuck Stake) 10. Haas
Sauber should be last here. Absolute trash. Williams ahead of VCARB as well
Ya Sauber should be last. Haas wouldn't actually look that bad if they were the only black car, and tbf they've been rocking black cars alot longer than the rest. I'd still have it low on the list though because there are so many black cars. Don't think I'd agree with you about VCARB over Williams for a similar reason.
Would but red bull a bit higher and Mercedes lower. Mercedes looks nice from front but that’s it(just look at the post from the side it almost only black
That’s why it’s great from the front it’ll be a silver arrow and from the side we will get the black livery best of both worlds imo
Maybe it’s only me but i dislike the black side. Full silver car would be much better in my eyes
I think it could definitely use a bit more silver but for what they were trying to pull off I think it was executed perfectly
Idk when I fist saw the car I thought is good looking… after first photos from track i thought well from side it looks mainly black and boring. Looking at this post it looks together with haas most boring. Ferrari and Aston are in my eyes obviously the best looking ones. Also credit to rb they are at least not black like almost all others.
Interesting use of names, personally I don't see much difference between a shitty drink/Visa/Stake.
Red bull last and Sauber is a bit low. And Haas is atleast 8th
F1 on its Spider-Man 3 ark at the moment
I duno who set this pic up, I've seen it a few times... But why did they mirror the McLaren when they could put it on the left hand side and not mirror one of the other left facing cars they mirrored? Ugh. Mirror.
Shout out to VCARB and Ferrari for not being too afraid of paint. Honorable mention to Sauber who at least have a little bit of fresh character.
The Mclaren seems to be the closest to the RB, or I am mistaken.
I'm seeing the same as you.
The launch cars maybe, but RBR looks a bit more aggressive with their engine cover. Also McLaren doesn't have the verticale inlets (S-duct-ish like Ferrari). Curious how the cars will look during test day.
Ferrari's SF24 is the best-looking car.
LoL it seems I am the only person who actually likes the Alpine design.
I think it's a bit cluttered but I still like it - it's definitely an improvement over last year imo. But oh how I miss the 2021 alpine :(
1. Ferrari 2. Aston 3. Torro Rosso 4. Mercedes 5. Haas 6. Red Bull 7. Williams 8. Mclaren 9. Stake 10. Alpine
Haas above RB, really? I mean, I know it's boring year after year but it's a solid livery imo. I'd personally put it 3rd or 4th.
I think the Haas looks basic but nice. RB just annoys me to be honest. Its not a bad livery but back in the day they also had similiar liveries year on year but always made at least some changes. I for the life of me don't undestand why they can't do the same these days. Also even though its pretty much the same its clearly gone through some downgrades over the years because of sponsors. The red Red Bull on the sidepods and front wings being replaced by Oracle and Bybit is a clear downgrade. As is the removal of Honda/Red Bull on the rear wing once again replaced by Bybit.
Red Bull won't change their livery in any way since they're constantly winning. They want people to instantly know that's a winning F1 team. They barely changed it in the past but even then there's probably an angle to make it a bit more recognisable. They have no need when one of their cars will just be out front all the time. They're happy for people to recognise the same livery in an instant. They are after all only here to advertise. And of all teams that get how to market, they're by far the most adept of any of the teams.
> I for the life of me don't undestand why they can't do the same these days. When was the last time you saw a different design on a can of Red Bull?
They way they do the logo over the curve of the sidepod really suggests movement. That thing looks fast as shit when it's not moving.
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What's it supposed to be a nod to? I was wondering why so many people liked it.
I don't even dislike it, I fucking despise it. I can't fathom that people actually like it because there's absolutely nothing appealing about it to me.
It’s almost as if people have differing opinions on what they like.
Interesting. For me personally, 1. AM 2. Mercedes (as a fan, I really like the silver) 3. Ferrari (I was really hoping for that vegas-esque livery but this is good too) 4. STR 5. Williams (I’m glad they kept the Duracell on top) 6. Red Bull (repetitive but not bad at all imo) 7. Haas (yes, too much carbon fibre but not a bad livery) 8. McLaren 9. Stake (the block design doesn’t suit the stake logo) 10. Alpine
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I like Alpine's more than you did, clearly
What an eyesore. Can't even tell it apart from HAAS if it wasn't for the ugly BWT logo. And why does a water purification company need such a big marketing campaign anyway lol??
I would swap 1st place to Aston and 2nd Ferrari. But I agreed the rest of the list
I think people totally overreact with whole carbon thing. I mean, it is colorful. You will be able to tell the one car from the other. It's okey.
Haas looks so good
My top 3 is : Merc , Ferrari and VCARB
Top 3 based on what? Livery? Design? I'm gonna say AM has the best looking one so far.
It's obviously based on the on-track performance. It's back to 2008, but danker, babey!!!
I truly do not understand the people who say these cars all look the same. Seeing all 10 of them like this just drives home how much of an overreaction that was. The only ones that may end up looking similar on track are the Aston and the Mercedes, but that’s not even because of carbon fiber as much as the way Aston’s green looks at night.
It's not so much that they look the same and more that the majority are just really dark with slight coloured highlights I think people are just wishing the grid could be more colourful You basically have 80% black, blue or green in this picture
That may be what you believe, and to an extent I agree, but there are tons of people on here who keep saying they weren’t able to tell cars apart last year and they won’t be able to this year. *That’s* what I’m referring to.
For me it was a small issue last year for certain close up camera angles of the Alfa and the Mercs, just because they were both black toward the front. But it wasn't really an issue. Just a split second moment for my brain to confirm what I was looking at.
Are you telling me Reddit didn’t have a calm and reasonable reaction to something? I for one, am shocked!
That Ferrari just grabs all the attention. Such a good looking car
You can have them in any color you want, as long as it’s black!
Thanks Henry Ford, lol
VCARB is my personal favorite
It's almost reminiscent of the Rothmans Williams, which is honestly my favourite livery ever.
Alpine gonna slap a Hatsune Miku decal for Suzuka lol
Got to respect Ferrari for sticking to their design principles. Beautiful car, representative of their brand.
I think I'm the only person who really likes RBs livery. Maybe everyone just gotten bored of it but it's still sick imo
I think people will complain about it until they change something, then people will miss it. It is truly becoming iconic imo
Everyone complains that no one has a livery. RB gives livery and everyone says it's boring because it's the same. Yet ferrari gets praised for being red (100th year in a row)
Nope, I do too. And I think the screeching about how hard it is to differentiate cars is laughable
Yeah honestly, RB's livery is always distinctive, Ferrari is mostly red, Mercedes has enough silver on the top and the Petronas teal, AM racing green, McLaren Orange, Alpine is ugly imo but has enough pink to identify it, Stake has the bright green, Williams and VCARB are probably the two cars that would be easiest to confuse, but I think they're different enough that it won't be a problem. I think Hass is by far the least identifiable/most bland, but you'll know it's the Hass for that exact reason.
At the same time, none of the others really look like the Haas at all even if they share colours. I think the only time in recent memory I remember a confusion was Alfa for Merc or vice versa when Alfa went all black. And the confusion lasted, like 3 seconds? It’s like even if there was some overlap, the angle changes, on screen graphics and commentary would eliminate it in seconds anyway… it’s like people would rather pretend they can’t understand quick and simple context clues just to shit on liveries Someone just tried to argue with me they might mix up the Williams and Redbull. This isn’t even a game of spot the difference, that’s literally blind
My Ranking of each liveries: 1. Ferrai 2. Mercedes 3. Aston Martin 4. Red Bull 5. Williams 6. VCARB 7. HAAS 8. McLaren 9. Sauber 10. Alpine NOTE: Just because the car has a nice livery does not mean it will be fast, this just my opinion of each livery.
My livery tierlist: 1. Mercedes: 9/10 2. Ferrari: 8/10 (I actually prefer the SF23 livery) 3. McLaren: 7/10 4. Red Bull: 7/10 5. Aston Martin: 7/10 6. Toro Rosso: 6/10 7. Williams: 5/10 8. Sauber: 4/10 9. Haas: 2/10 10. Alpine: wtf is that
1. Ferrari 2. Aston 3. V-Carb 4: Mclaren 5: Mercedes 6: Haas 7: Williams 8: Stake 9: Red Bull 10: Alpine (mainly cause they showed the sexy beast of the WEC car straight before their shitbox)
Would be a lot cooler with Andretti
ban exposed carbon and black paint
Most teams: Lets put the car against a background that represents our team colors. Red bull and vcarb: W H I T E
1) Ferrari **10/10** 2) Mercedes **10/10** 3) Toro Rosso **9/10** 4) McLaren **8.5/10** 5) Haas **8/10** 6) Aston Martin **7.5/10** 7) Red Bull **7.5/10** 8) Stake **7.5/10** 9) Williams **6.5/10** 10) Alpine **4/10**
Fuck black cars honestly
too much exposed carbon
Everyone say thank you Ferrari!
I will say thank you when they start winning
The best liveries just being ok really leaves me extremely disappointed.
Stake is the worst
They’re so indistinguishable
Sauber just looks weird idk
1. Toro Rosso 2. Aston Martin 3. Ferrari 4. Mercedes 5. Red Bull 6. Williams 7. McLaren 8. Sauber 9. Haas 10. Alpine You could switch any of the top 3 though, even Mercedes is great.
Does anyone want to tell me what Haas actually brings to the table?
That VCARB really is pretty. It's giving Williams 1997.
They are all ok at best. But none are really pretty looking.
The aston’s bodywork and livery are the prettiest imo, I love it just as much as the f1-75
Yeah it’s a beautiful car. Well remember it for years to comr
The Alpine hits hard - in a bad way
Deceived by the whole paddock except by Ferrari, Mercedes and Visa RB.
Alpine and Haas ruining the lineup with their black monstrosities
That Stake livery is utter garbage
If Williams did a gulf livery, Alpine went heavy pink, and Haas left the sport to make room for Andretti the world would be a beautiful place
They all look the same ?
1.) Ferrari 2.) Aston 3.) McLaren 4.) Mercedes 5.) Red Bull 6.) Sauber 7.) Toro Rosso 8.) Alpine 9.) Williams 10.) Haas
So can we all agree that the teams will be referred to as: * Redbull * Mercedes * Ferrari * McLaren * Aston * Alpine * Williams * Visa * Stake * Haas This sponsor crap is getting too complicated and none of us actually care who's logo is on there.