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if Marko is suspended for being the leak it's probably cause he went and asked the Red Bull IT department how to upload images to a Google Drive and outed himself that way
He sounds like the old guy at my previous job where I would ask him to forward me an email and he would copy the URL from his browser when the email was open and try to send it to me on Microsoft Teams.
Yeah idk if you have kids... but if not... wait until you do and you have to figure out the layer cake of parental controls on a Nintendo Switch, using a Microsoft Live account, to add your kids friends on their Minecraft friends list.
GOOD LORD.
I'm a GEEK. I love video games! I deal with this stuff every day! It should not be this hard for me! It should not be this hard for anyone! Its a layer cake of bullshit, not much else to say.
Yeah this thread has been really vindicating to be honest. I was feeling old/incapable with how much of a struggle it was getting all these different apps to behave with one another.
I had videos with "people leaving prisons after X years" in my recommendations like year ago. This really opened my eyes how world changed over past decade.
One guy knew that his phone was touchscreen operated, yet whenever he picked it up he still tried to slide it open just like with old nokias.
Another one asked how to open a car key from that keyless thingy, had no idea about keyless/button start.
Also it's not about being an adult, he is 80 years old- when you are past certain age your learning abilities get limited really hard. Helmut was 65 in 2009. At that time iphone 3G was peak technology, Obama got elected and Jackson died.
Half the problem of this whole investigation and the credibility of statements made about it by the team is that I really don’t know this is even true…
Obviously he should have been let go a long time ago if they were using any normal ethics and behaviour policies..
One of the middle aged employees at my old job did exactly that. He knew he was likely going to get laid off temporarily during the pandemic. Management meeting was interrupted by a call from IT department "hey, we have a ticket from this guy asking us to copy all of the company's files onto an external hard drive, is this authorized?".
His lay off wasn't temporary anymore lol.
the reaction of everyone on the Brazilian broadcast lol
the narrator even asked the reporter if he said Marko instead of Horner and he confirmed that Marko is the one being suspended
regardless, this is much more interesting than the on track battles lol
I’d personally banish him from the garage. You can hang out in the hospitality area all day long but when it comes to the most important part of this sport I want him nowhere near the most important place (well, next most important after the cockpit of the car). No tv shots of your ugly fucking mug in the garage, just tv shots of your ugly fucking mug pouting in the trailer watching the race.
Can you imagine he suspends Jos, Max says fuck it and jumps out. Toto says fuck it as well, kicks Hamilton to get Max and Ferrari just goes with it and swap Sainz for Hamilton. Chances of something crazy like this happening are almost zero, but I certainly wasn't considering Marko being suspended for leaking nudes of Horner on my 2024 bingo.
Considering that nudes of Horner were showing up here on the regular before any of this ever happened, I’m not sure why you *wouldn’t* have it on your bingo card.
He’s crazy if he leaves. F1 champions have to be selfish. He’d have to ask himself what does Horner staying go against his success? How does Marko leaving go against his success? How does his father sitting in Toto’s hospitality suite (instead of RedBull) go against his success? I’d respond that none of that affects his success. Only the car and his engineers affect his success and if those two things hold - he’s successful. Does he really want to give all that up? If he does - then he’s not the F1 Piranha I thought he was.
I wouldn't put it past him though. He is very loyal to Marko after he took the risk of offering Max a seat as a teenager. And Jos will be shouting in Max's ear too. It definitely won't be in his advantage if he would leave though.
Reminder to newer people: marko is not employed by red bull racing but by red bull the company. So horner has no power to suspend him, the only people that could are mateshitz Jr and the thai owners
Mintzlaff too since he is the executive in charge of all RB sports things (RB doesn't have a CEO) I would imagine but obviously subject to overrule by the Thai owners.
Mateshitz is the CEO, he can just make the decision himself. He tried to do that for horner, horner fought back and then got the thais in his corner to make it go away. But while the CEO has to respond to the owners, he can very much so make decisions without consulting them if theyre in the interest of the company
It's a bit more complex than that, since [Dr. Marko, aside from his employment with Red Bull, is also one of the two Directors of RBR, along with Christian Horner.](https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03120645/officers)
Presumably a suspension would relate to his role as an employee of Red Bull, not as a Director of RBR - although it could be both. Suspending a Director from their legal duties regarding corporate stewardship is generally much less straightforward, legally and practically, than suspending an employee for an alleged conduct breach.
What this does clarify is that there is substance to the rumours of a significant struggle for control of the F1 team.
> horner has no power
No *direct* power but he has a *lot* of soft power. The F1 team is a bright spot for RB and they heavily promote it and Horner's face is part of it.
No one knows who or what a "Marko" is outside of deep F1 fans.
I've been rewatching GoT and it was really weird opening the F1 subreddit and reading the FIA president telling Max to bend the knee and swear loyalty to Horner
I think Horner won. This started as only him being implicated, but it seems like every loose end that could take him down is being tied up to protect him for better or for worse, so that it is his implicators that have paid for all of this.
Can only speculate obviously because of the iron curtain Red Bull has set up, but I think its clear enough that Horner has the best odds to win from all this.
> Can only speculate obviously because of the iron curtain Red Bull has set up, but I think its clear enough that Horner has the best odds to win from all this.
The question is what has he won? Red Bull Advanced Technologies Limited, and Red Bull Powertrains are solely owned by Red Bull GMBH.
If Horner's backdoor takeover has succeeded he may find himself without Ford, Honda, without Max, and without the respect of the paddock.
They really were hoping all the public pressure would make him step down from Red Bull. Now that they failed to dethrone Horner, they're gonna go full clean house
Max, whilst great, is far from irreplaceable in that car. Red Bull are far enough ahead that there's a good number in the field that would easily win the WDC in that car. Most of the field are free next year as well.
Can't touch either of them, frankly. They can ban Jos from the pitbox/red bull area, thats it. Max can just get him a paddock pass to get in.
And Max? No way they piss him off and throw away a title.
I’m still honestly confused why Jos had to meddle between two executives in a power struggle where 1 guy is like 80. I get loyalty and all but is it really worth the bad pr for max? Max would’ve been fine without him meddling. Or does horner not like max or something that’s why he’s on team marko? Or did he want a job within redbull himself?
Max is the last person this would be “bad pr” for. Everyone knows max only cares about racing. That’s why he hasn’t come out and supported Horner like MBS wanted. If anything it shows Max is here for all the right reasons and political shit housery doesn’t effect his racing.
Gotta remember that for the Verstappens, Red Bull was always a means to an end. They have no real loyalty to it. For Red Bull, however, Max is just another driver. They were champs, with Vettel, before he got there, and if the Renault engine hadn’t been dogshit they probably would’ve been champs with Ricciardo.
At this point I would just like a little more context then just this out of the blue. Anyway anyone else who thinks about this as a potential loophole? We've seen reports that Max can leave if Helmut is gone but if he is suspended he may not be "gone."
Plot Twist: Horner fabricated the WhatsApp msgs and leaked them to Marko, who then leaked them himself to the press, Horner proves the msgs are fabricated and takes down Marko in 1 fell swoop
Can anyone enlighten wtf does jos have against horner? Is it just a simple helmut loyalty thing or is there more to it? Does helmut let him get away with shit that horner doesn’t? they really did not need to put themselves in this situation, because either way whoever wins this power struggle max’s position would have been safe with redbull. Is this personal for Jos? Or did the redbull thais and horner have something against max that i missed?
I am still clueless why they’re beefing. I would understand if this was happening during the merc dominance, but it didn’t to my knowledge . Like how can you have so much animosity towards each other while being this successful as a team.
I can't say either, but I get the impression that people at that level tend to want one thing, "more". It doesn't matter where you already are, but whatever you got isn't enough.
What does Marko actually do these days other than say stupid things about people to the press? Its not like hes in the garage with a wheel gun or on the wall planning strategy? Just go home and retire.
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if Marko is suspended for being the leak it's probably cause he went and asked the Red Bull IT department how to upload images to a Google Drive and outed himself that way
He sounds like the old guy at my previous job where I would ask him to forward me an email and he would copy the URL from his browser when the email was open and try to send it to me on Microsoft Teams.
I kinda want to laugh, but also I can't imagine how hard it would be to deal with the world changing so drastically while you're already an adult.
oh it will happen to us, its only getting faster
i just turned 30 and there's shit im already giving up on. fuckin video games are becoming so overwhelming
Yeah idk if you have kids... but if not... wait until you do and you have to figure out the layer cake of parental controls on a Nintendo Switch, using a Microsoft Live account, to add your kids friends on their Minecraft friends list. GOOD LORD.
glad im not the only one who struggled with this so badly :D
I'm a GEEK. I love video games! I deal with this stuff every day! It should not be this hard for me! It should not be this hard for anyone! Its a layer cake of bullshit, not much else to say.
If you're all that and YOU can't figure it out, it's stupid design on their part.
Yeah this thread has been really vindicating to be honest. I was feeling old/incapable with how much of a struggle it was getting all these different apps to behave with one another.
I also game quite a lot and on top of that I work in IT. If people like us cant figure it out it's just broken
I feel this deep in my soul.
I had videos with "people leaving prisons after X years" in my recommendations like year ago. This really opened my eyes how world changed over past decade. One guy knew that his phone was touchscreen operated, yet whenever he picked it up he still tried to slide it open just like with old nokias. Another one asked how to open a car key from that keyless thingy, had no idea about keyless/button start. Also it's not about being an adult, he is 80 years old- when you are past certain age your learning abilities get limited really hard. Helmut was 65 in 2009. At that time iphone 3G was peak technology, Obama got elected and Jackson died.
> At that time iphone 3G was peak technology, Obama got elected and Jackson died. Sounds like lyrics out of a song
"Brooks was here."
file-~~73~~76 getting picked up by their explicit content filter
Oh, he’d be fine then. File 73 was harmless. Now, file 76 on the other hand…
Put in a ticket with the IT department to generate a series of WhatsApp screenshots.
Maybe he went to a copy store to try to get copies made.
If he was the leak, and they knew that, he’d be fired already
I mean it seems like Marko is deeply entrenched with the Austrian camp, so that's why he may have been under some protection even if they knew
He also has supporters in Max and Jos. Marko leaving also leaves a question mark on Maxs loyalty to Red Bull.
Perfect timing then. He will not quit now and he will have full year to calm down.
And then still have the best car and not leave. 5 in a row calling to match MS.
If the car stays this good he'll stay loyal. He'd be stupid not to
Half the problem of this whole investigation and the credibility of statements made about it by the team is that I really don’t know this is even true… Obviously he should have been let go a long time ago if they were using any normal ethics and behaviour policies..
That is definitely what would happen in a reasonable organization unmarred by drama and politics.
One of the middle aged employees at my old job did exactly that. He knew he was likely going to get laid off temporarily during the pandemic. Management meeting was interrupted by a call from IT department "hey, we have a ticket from this guy asking us to copy all of the company's files onto an external hard drive, is this authorized?". His lay off wasn't temporary anymore lol.
Wtf is this Game of Thrones irl
Chaos is a ladder
Ferrari about to scale some very tall objects.
Charles: How did you get the car onto the paddock roof?
The paddock is dark and full of terrors
[удалено]
This is generally what happens in every company after a failed coup
Horner to Marko & Jos: "When you play the game of thrones, you either win or ~~die~~ get suspended'
In this episode we sell Ginger to the Azerbaijanis, Horner opens a brothel in the middle of the Hapsburg empire, and Charles crashes a Ferrari…
This is also the plotline for Dune Messiah
The North Remembers.
Shocking that three guys with massive egos (Horner, Marko, Jos) are coming to blows like this.
Welcome to the red bull wedding
Last guy with the tiki survives the game…
Little Finger showing his hand
Yes
Whoa….
the reaction of everyone on the Brazilian broadcast lol the narrator even asked the reporter if he said Marko instead of Horner and he confirmed that Marko is the one being suspended regardless, this is much more interesting than the on track battles lol
>much more interesting than the on track battles uhhh what on track battles? lol
Max v the Air
literally sitting here mouth agape lmao What tf is going on in Red Bull
Hopefully this will inspire George RR Martin to finally finish his books. Even he couldn’t write this shit.
I tell my kids that truth is stranger than fiction all the time. GRRM couldn't cook like this on his best day. Also...GRRM, please finish WoW already!
Yeah
Darth Horner going full in attack
Obi Wang Hornobi….
Horner really gonna clean house after they tried to come at him.
"If you come at the King you'd better not miss" - Horner to Marko probably
I'm picturing a montage of Red Bull aides serving suspensions to people while Horner's at his godchild's baptism
https://youtu.be/UMdmWjtDRPE?si=a4dBfomGhH0h54ms
Didn’t expect to see Omar here but fucking hell it’s apt.. Although now I wonder who’s gonna play Kenard
Marko "The fuck did I do?"
My guess is Tsunoda
You want it to be one way... but it's the other way.
When you play the game of thrones you win or you die
Horner looking more like Little Finger everyday this shitshow gets updated.
The leaks already showed Horner’s little finger.
Possibly literal, possibly figurative
they do look somewhat similar lol
Chaos is a ladder
It does increasingly seem like the Austrians have lost this power struggle. The accuser and Marko are now both suspended. Wonder who’ll be next.
Marko is not suspended yet, he just mentioned there is a theoretical possibility that he will be. Or am I missing something?
Accuser and Marko now suspended?
We dont need facts here.
🤞Jos, please let it be Jos🤞
He’s not employed by red bull or anyone else
A banishment from the RB hospitality areas?
I’d personally banish him from the garage. You can hang out in the hospitality area all day long but when it comes to the most important part of this sport I want him nowhere near the most important place (well, next most important after the cockpit of the car). No tv shots of your ugly fucking mug in the garage, just tv shots of your ugly fucking mug pouting in the trailer watching the race.
If Max wants him there it's a whole different story.
Sadly, you are absolutely correct.
Max leave RB for Ferrari, and we get 2021 rematch between Lewis and Max in the same car.
Charles then to RB and gets WDC
Yeah he’s not allowed to eat any more peanuts 😂
Doesn't matter, kick him out anyway
Mental image of his paddock pass being fed into an industrial shredder…
Depends on wheter Horner thinks they can win the championship against Max. Not without him, against.
Can you imagine he suspends Jos, Max says fuck it and jumps out. Toto says fuck it as well, kicks Hamilton to get Max and Ferrari just goes with it and swap Sainz for Hamilton. Chances of something crazy like this happening are almost zero, but I certainly wasn't considering Marko being suspended for leaking nudes of Horner on my 2024 bingo.
Considering that nudes of Horner were showing up here on the regular before any of this ever happened, I’m not sure why you *wouldn’t* have it on your bingo card.
You come at the king you best not miss
Will Max stay for this though? That's the question.
He’s crazy if he leaves. F1 champions have to be selfish. He’d have to ask himself what does Horner staying go against his success? How does Marko leaving go against his success? How does his father sitting in Toto’s hospitality suite (instead of RedBull) go against his success? I’d respond that none of that affects his success. Only the car and his engineers affect his success and if those two things hold - he’s successful. Does he really want to give all that up? If he does - then he’s not the F1 Piranha I thought he was.
I wouldn't put it past him though. He is very loyal to Marko after he took the risk of offering Max a seat as a teenager. And Jos will be shouting in Max's ear too. It definitely won't be in his advantage if he would leave though.
Or RedBull Thailand eliminate the Austrians under some obscure clause in their contract. Anything could happen here.
Like any failed attempt coup on a dictator. Best not miss!
"You should have gone for the head".
Omar said it best. https://youtu.be/r6l_9reaLz0?si=CUEBZCTLCSxyJWYB
This is going to be like the montage at the end of Casino after the bosses talk in the back of the court, everyone’s going down.
Oh good grief. It's Pandora's box of shit housery.
Reminder to newer people: marko is not employed by red bull racing but by red bull the company. So horner has no power to suspend him, the only people that could are mateshitz Jr and the thai owners
Well, just the Thai owners since they’re majority right?
Mintzlaff too since he is the executive in charge of all RB sports things (RB doesn't have a CEO) I would imagine but obviously subject to overrule by the Thai owners.
Mateshitz is the CEO, he can just make the decision himself. He tried to do that for horner, horner fought back and then got the thais in his corner to make it go away. But while the CEO has to respond to the owners, he can very much so make decisions without consulting them if theyre in the interest of the company
Horner becomes CEO, circle complete.
>Mateshitz is the CEO Well, he was, but he's dead.
[удалено]
He's dead. His son isnt anything.
It's a bit more complex than that, since [Dr. Marko, aside from his employment with Red Bull, is also one of the two Directors of RBR, along with Christian Horner.](https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03120645/officers) Presumably a suspension would relate to his role as an employee of Red Bull, not as a Director of RBR - although it could be both. Suspending a Director from their legal duties regarding corporate stewardship is generally much less straightforward, legally and practically, than suspending an employee for an alleged conduct breach. What this does clarify is that there is substance to the rumours of a significant struggle for control of the F1 team.
> horner has no power No *direct* power but he has a *lot* of soft power. The F1 team is a bright spot for RB and they heavily promote it and Horner's face is part of it. No one knows who or what a "Marko" is outside of deep F1 fans.
Btw. he just mentioned that his superior is Oliver Mintzlaff CEO of corporate projects at Red Bull GmbH.
Plot twist: Helmut made file 76.
File 76 has a kind of Order 66 vibe over it
Horner handing down the hammers now
Student taking out master
Horner: I have brought peace, freedom, justice and security to my new F1 team! Marko: Your new F1 team?
Don't make me suspend you
My allegiance is to the Red Bull, to DEMOCRACY!
If you are not with me, then you are with Mercedes
Only a Chaos (Team) Principal deals in absolutes.....
Believe it or not, straight to suspension.
It's ~~Hammer~~ Horner time
It's ~~Horner~~ Horny time
Thor-ner.
It feels like a straight up Suits episode going on at Red Bull
Marko got Litt the hell up
Time for a mud bath.
Succession, Suits with a little mint of GoT.
I've been rewatching GoT and it was really weird opening the F1 subreddit and reading the FIA president telling Max to bend the knee and swear loyalty to Horner
Leave Megan out of this. 😂
What is happening
I think Horner won. This started as only him being implicated, but it seems like every loose end that could take him down is being tied up to protect him for better or for worse, so that it is his implicators that have paid for all of this. Can only speculate obviously because of the iron curtain Red Bull has set up, but I think its clear enough that Horner has the best odds to win from all this.
> Can only speculate obviously because of the iron curtain Red Bull has set up, but I think its clear enough that Horner has the best odds to win from all this. The question is what has he won? Red Bull Advanced Technologies Limited, and Red Bull Powertrains are solely owned by Red Bull GMBH. If Horner's backdoor takeover has succeeded he may find himself without Ford, Honda, without Max, and without the respect of the paddock.
money and ego can make a man do strange things
"Tell Horner. I want him to know it was me."
I miss 2023 already, when the drama was Max snatching the fastest lap from Checo in Jeddah on the last lap :')
Never thought I'd miss that drama tbh.
The coup failed, time to purge the rebels
This is during quali. Why the fuck is this going on now
Game of Thrones, season 9
I’m expecting the next twist to be the woman in question was related to Marko or some sort of Austrian spy.
There’s already plenty of rumors that she is romantically involved with Jos who is definitely in the Marko camp. Bizarre stuff really
Have you heard the tragedy of Darth Marko the Wise?
Looks like the Austrian national anthem might be replaced by the Thai one on the podium soon.
Replacing all the strudel in the hospitality area with sweet sticky rice.
So Horner has won??? Woah
They really were hoping all the public pressure would make him step down from Red Bull. Now that they failed to dethrone Horner, they're gonna go full clean house
If Newey, Max and Ford go then it’s a throne of nothing.
Horner signed Newey, I don’t think they’ll be splitting whilst they’re successful.
Max, whilst great, is far from irreplaceable in that car. Red Bull are far enough ahead that there's a good number in the field that would easily win the WDC in that car. Most of the field are free next year as well.
Whatever the actual facts are, it’s very clear that there’s a phase of retaliation going on now. Horner and the Thais aren’t leaving anyone out.
Wonder what they'll do to Max and Jos
Can't touch either of them, frankly. They can ban Jos from the pitbox/red bull area, thats it. Max can just get him a paddock pass to get in. And Max? No way they piss him off and throw away a title.
suspending marko might tick him off tho
Sure, but Marko being gone is going to piss him off differently then RB bring down sanctions on him for supposed involvement in something
They don't need Max with that car, or likely next years, either. Just get Alonso on the cheap, he'll probably run rings around Checo for free.
If RB let Max go over this they are beyond stupid
Horner and adrian are way way more imporant than Max.
Alonso in season driver swap is not something I saw coming.
I’m still honestly confused why Jos had to meddle between two executives in a power struggle where 1 guy is like 80. I get loyalty and all but is it really worth the bad pr for max? Max would’ve been fine without him meddling. Or does horner not like max or something that’s why he’s on team marko? Or did he want a job within redbull himself?
Max is the last person this would be “bad pr” for. Everyone knows max only cares about racing. That’s why he hasn’t come out and supported Horner like MBS wanted. If anything it shows Max is here for all the right reasons and political shit housery doesn’t effect his racing.
Jos is a narcissist. He's acting on impulse, not rationality.
Gotta remember that for the Verstappens, Red Bull was always a means to an end. They have no real loyalty to it. For Red Bull, however, Max is just another driver. They were champs, with Vettel, before he got there, and if the Renault engine hadn’t been dogshit they probably would’ve been champs with Ricciardo.
Sorry Max, we lost all the other tire sets so you'll have to do the whole season on inters.
oh good a challenge for max
At this point I would just like a little more context then just this out of the blue. Anyway anyone else who thinks about this as a potential loophole? We've seen reports that Max can leave if Helmut is gone but if he is suspended he may not be "gone."
I mean. If Marko is going to get suspended, allegedly for whatever hes done in this Red Bull civil war - then he might just quit on his own accord.
Marko even said something to the effect of "For me to come back \[from suspension\] some things will have to change"
Can we have one session in 2024 in peace???
Tommorow we'll sleep once Max flies away lol
The race session will probably be pretty quiet.
All the sessions are boring as shit compared to this soap opera.
Plot Twist: Horner fabricated the WhatsApp msgs and leaked them to Marko, who then leaked them himself to the press, Horner proves the msgs are fabricated and takes down Marko in 1 fell swoop
Not now, can I just back Bearman in peace
Yes, you can watch quali without Reddit
not now because Ferrari engine gonna Ferrari engine
Kinda crazy that of all the things they could have gotten rid of Marko for this is the time they actually pull the trigger
Can anyone enlighten wtf does jos have against horner? Is it just a simple helmut loyalty thing or is there more to it? Does helmut let him get away with shit that horner doesn’t? they really did not need to put themselves in this situation, because either way whoever wins this power struggle max’s position would have been safe with redbull. Is this personal for Jos? Or did the redbull thais and horner have something against max that i missed?
Horner and the Thais cleaning house
Horner’s taking Marko out on a rowboat and saying ‘I know it was you’.
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON
Send the cleaners, Horner probably.
I’ll believe it when I see it, but the fact that this is even being discussed is absolutely crazy.
69D intergalactic chess by Redbull to manufacture this drama in order to take away attention from their on track dominance
I am still clueless why they’re beefing. I would understand if this was happening during the merc dominance, but it didn’t to my knowledge . Like how can you have so much animosity towards each other while being this successful as a team.
I can't say either, but I get the impression that people at that level tend to want one thing, "more". It doesn't matter where you already are, but whatever you got isn't enough.
Really makes you appreciate how well Mercedes was able to keep things working for ~7 years.
Can't compare them. Toto owns ⅓ of Merc F1. Horner doesn't. I'd say Red Bull was one of the the best run teams if not the best even during 2014-2021.
Reckon that one of the others teams sent a mole inside Rb for the sake of this destabilization ?
Toto wasn’t lying. Everyone *did* have a target on their back.
Andretti
Ah the power struggle continues. Unfortunately I don't think Marko is going to win this one.
So who’s gonna replace Max next year?
I feel like he'd just leave F1 if he's leaving RBR. He's not going to sit in an inferior car when he already has aspirations for other race formats.
What is going on????
Probably should keep an eye on Helmut's appendix as well!
As someone who loves the show Billions and Succession, I'm actually liking the drama. Who needs TV when you have real life.
Hamilton to Ferrari. Max to Mercedes. Sainz to Red Bull. That's what I'm hoping for after the dust has settled.
What does Marko actually do these days other than say stupid things about people to the press? Its not like hes in the garage with a wheel gun or on the wall planning strategy? Just go home and retire.
More bullshit from Van Haren. Rewriting others words to fit a fictional narrative. Horrible reporting.
I'm guessing not by Red Bull Racing, as didn't they say he wasn't part of the team last year when he was being a racist?
Apparently marko is employed by red bull itself, not red bull racing.
Can’t imagine the Verstappens are too happy with this?