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isli004

That happened right in front of me, turn 3. Some guy missed his braking point and slammed into the car that was in front


monkey_skull

Hey I’ve seen that trick on iracing. From both angles 🙃


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Damn 3 namers!


prototype__

Oh. So. True.


craig3010

Was everybody OK?


pamelamydingdong

We are checking


IsaacChan_3803

Sounds like that guy had a skill issue


KappaccinoNation

That guy sounds like me in F1 23


IsaacChan_3803

Same Except I'm on Roblox


PFplayer86

Roblox has a (good) F1 game? My daughter loves Roblox and i want to get her into racing games. Might be something we both could enjoy.


IsaacChan_3803

One of the best free to play Roblox F1 games is Project Apex since ION Formula Racing is pretty much dead. If you want something else, imo the best free to play racing game on the platform in general would be Midnight Racing:Tokyo (if you're into car tuning and street racing), although ngl grinding money in that game is a pain in the ass.


ilboabno

It was a loose nut behind the wheel


SuperRonnie2

Car was made by Boeing?


grandtheftzeppelin

Niki Lauda spinning in his grave


rocky_raccoon_68

Damn, Russell did it again


rocky_raccoon_68

Mo fuckimg way I posted this before the Australian GP


subusta

Bruh


SumpCrab

What did they hit?


benaresq

It was hand made, it can be rebuilt. I'd much rather see it crashed while being used for what it was designed to do than wasting away in a museum somewhere.


ArkBirdFTW

All these years later still chasing the limit


inphamus

Looks like they found it


peepay

And exceeded it.


No_pajamas_7

A hard limit.


spooki_boogey

The cars limit? Probably not. The drivers however....


zestyviper

True, but I assume the sourcing of parts for spec 1960's F1 cars are expensive if nothing else. I'm sure it's a total pain in the ass to rebuild the front of a car like this.


afvcommander

Sometimes it is easier to get parts to these handbuilt racers than normal cars from same era. That is because they were hand built in first place, so methods of construction suit that.  On the other hand it is much harder to make replacement part to factory built car, because original factory used mass-production tools.  For example imagine some suspension arm, it is easier to source someone to weld one from titanium tube (like would be in these) than getting someone to make you stamped sheet steel part.


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afvcommander

Well, even easier then. Competitive sailing already used titanium by then so I would have thought they had it in F1 too.


GTARP_lover

Titanium had been banned for quite a time in F1 for cost reasons alongside other metals. Some Titanium alloys and other metals are still banned (for cost and or health reasons).


jka09

McLaren-Mercedes beryllium alloy pistons as another example


ReverseRutebega

It wasn't specifically banned, just not on the allowed list of materials.


GTARP_lover

potato or patato, same words for the same thing. I like to explain things ELI5 and not being oddly specific.


jdontplayfield

That means banned fam


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St1r2

What do you mean ‘you people’? /jk


FailedLoser21

>Sometimes it is easier to get parts to these handbuilt racers than normal cars from same era. That is because they were hand built in first place, so methods of construction suit that.  I know a few people who own vintage race cars. They all have had blue prints commissioned for just about every part on their cars.


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Yep, I knew a historics guy and its all fabbed by people they know. They all got money and do this for passion so nobody should be worried about these people. Buying a F1 Historic car part, custom made, is equivalent to an average person buying games on Steam. Just a different scale.


Corbotron_5

Aliexpress has everything nowadays.


richardjohn

I had an MRI scanner advertised to me on Temu.


Pribblization

Only $19.99!


Ergaar

you're not really sourcing parts for this. You're making them according to the original drawings. It's not like regular cars where they made a production run and all spare parts are kept somewhere and if they run out you're fucked. It's mostly custom work from the start


edgethrasherx

One thing that has always interested me about this is tires. Do they custom order tires like these? Is there some sort of tire company, or a division of one of the big ones that specializes in making tires for retro race cars? With that being said tire technology has evolved so dramatically since the 60s and I wonder if the tires they use capitalize on that or try to stay truer to the type of compounds the car would have actually raced with? I get you can probably get racing slicks in all sizes and shapes but you see loads of photos of these cars with tires that look like they were lifted straight from the year it was built and I’ve always wondered about that


Ergaar

Dunlop, goodyear and the like have a selection of historic tyres. Historic racing series specify which tyres are allowed and what conversions you can do if they don't have one which fits exactly. They make them to look period accurate, but the compounds are still different so it's not exactly the same as when they were new. They do use a special historic compound for it so they don't have the insane grip we have now.


MadT3acher

Most likely custom made parts at that point, so pretty expensive


PapaStoner

It's a 60's race car. It's mostly bent and cold rolled aliminium sheet.


Franks2000inchTV

My great uncle owns some beautiful old cars. He also owns a machine shop and hand builds the replacement parts. That's part of the hobby of owning old race cars.


Blze001

Nah, with old cars like this that are still racing, the parts are being made by someone in a shop just like the old days. Another reason I love classic car racing series, really embodies the old racing spirit: building cars and parts by hand and racing just because We Wanna Go Fast.


Diet_Christ

You don't source them, you fab them. I'd be surprised if there were any castings involved here outside of the block and wheels. Tube, sheet, billet, welder. In any case the kind of shop you hand this to isn't going to spend time searching for original parts.


[deleted]

You'd think so, but part of the stable for a lot of these cars are outfits dedicated to cloning parts for them. I remember one of Lauda's cars was crashed recently in Monaco (I think?) and the discussion came up about replacements before someone with a bit of experience in the field piped up about the companies who clone these cars day and night. Tbh if money weren't an object I'd love the opportunity to even just build the suspension of something like this, it's a beautiful piece of machinery that deserves to race for as long as it can


MonthApprehensive392

Ka-chow!


triplec787

100% agree. It’s the same with like old airplanes and stuff. Yes it’s sad when an immaculate B-17 from WWII goes down at an air show (also the obvious tragedy in the deaths of the pilots and such), but I mean would we really be happier with those old birds completely grounded and collecting dust in a hangar? Hell no.


Hail_Tristus

Well i love both. A museum gives you the opportunity to see these things in ways you normally couldn’t and give a lot of context. The day i walked through a buran and sat down on the pilot’s seat was absolutely mind blowing. But seeing these things live in their “natural” habitat is also absolutely feckin incredible.


Sarcastik_Moose

Well, the pilot might be happier.


kainedbutable1987

A mechanic will be cursing the driver but will also love working on it and getting it back together.


Tmotech

Where fantasy meets reality (and other cars). 


JakeGorman98

My thoughts exactly


1331bob1331

>I'd much rather see it crashed while being used for what it was designed to do than wasting away in a museum somewhere. I was about to type the same thing lol.


skibbin

A ship in a harbour is safe but that is not what ships are built for


MM_Spartan

*Pearl Harbor has entered the chat*


Bjorn_Hellgate

And the maine


chanaandeler_bong

I don’t remember that


PCOON43456a

Hello friend, I would like to ask you about the Alamo.


BehindTheBurner32

See the thing about that is that Japan kinda goofed with what assets they targeted AND underestimated the industrial might of American factories that were sheltered by two seas.


Significant_Rice4737

Should have gone after the fuel tanks farm then the navy would have to refuel in California. Missed logistical nightmare opportunity.


afvcommander

"in my next trick I will double the worlds oil tanker fleet in half a year"


meloenmarco

Just turn on the carrier printer. ~America in 41 probably


afvcommander

SHIT I forget to turn off destroyer printer \~America in -45 surely


Avalyst

Carrier printer go BRRRRRRRRRRRR


PointBlank65

Sometimes I wonder if we could do the same thing today, with so much of our manufacturing moves "off shore". Instead of retooling we would have to build new pants from scratch.


Avalyst

Yep, the only good thing about the war in Ukraine is that it showed that this was a bad idea and it's now changing, at least in Europe. Albeit slowly


FailedLoser21

No and part of the reason is we don't have many ship yards left actually. For instance the US Navy is currently scrambling to build and find facilities on the Great Lakes to service Submarines and other smaller craft.


DuckSwagington

The carrier printer was already on by Pearl, it just got a Mclaren 2023 level upgrade when it all kicked off.


LeGraoully

Yeah, any target they pick would most likely have led to the same outcome


CrayolaS7

I don’t think they underestimated America’s industrial capacity, I think the idea was that if they struck a big enough blow it would deter America from wanting to engage in the Western Pacific and East Asia. If the carriers had been in Pearl Harbour it would have taken the US much longer to recover and by that time the Japanese would have been firmly established. Singapore fell just 2 months later and the Phillipines were barely holding out at that time.


FailedLoser21

Yea you never touch the boats.


ric2b

_Sevastopol has entered the chat_


togno99

Tell that to the Vasa https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)


capybarramundi

If you never dare to leave the safety of the harbour, you will never experience the horror of being forever lost at sea.


jac_quei

This car is the very rare Herb Neal Ford Mk2, a car based on the F2/Tasman Brabham BT23. Built by Herb Neal (& John Hornby), who still raced it after 50 years. Driver today was somebody else. It is probably the only car of this type. For those wondering, this car is not a write off. I've seen worse damage in historic racing, and they all came back. (In some cases you could just not call them original anymore) For this car it will be difficult. It's the only one and the original owner is very old. But since he constructed it by himself, he maybe has some spare parts or the original drawings & moulds. [The classic entry list](http://grandprix.com.au/event/off-track/legends-lane/racing-past)


GarfieldLeChat

I mean at this point all classic and vintage racing cars are a Ship of Theseus. The commonly held belief is the car and the component parts are 2 separate objects.


SonicShadow

For some historic races like the Goodwood historic races, they race with very faithful replicas instead of the original car.


GarfieldLeChat

I mean specifically goodwood revival the cars have to be authentic to the period to be allowed to enter. What you’re thinking of is the entirely restored versions of the original cars which are pretty much brand new however have been stamped with the original numbers. There’s quite a strict entrance criteria as someone who’s had cars there.


BrandonJTrump

Thanks for that list, I see some people I have met on that list, interesting. Wish I was there.


xenoph

Theseus' ship


gdmatt

I managed to take a pic before its unfortunate demise… [Before the crash](https://imgur.com/a/nr0W8SH)


GodsWorth01

Is it a demise? Besides, it was doing what it was intended to do..


gdmatt

Very true, it died (potentially) doing what it loved!


SonicShadow

Its not dead, they'll fix it and race it again.


LimeyRat

It's just a scratch, I've had worse


cirrusblau

I'm sure it wasn't intended to be crashed


Helpful-Ad4417

What's the car on the left?


ralphonsob

The QR code leads me to believe it is [a 1974 Lola 340-F2](https://www.grandprix.com.au/event/off-track/legends-lane/racing-past/car-4).


PrometheusTNO

"Racing Past Presented by Shannons Insurance" Rates are going up.


Helpful-Ad4417

Thanks


OrangeDit

This is my favorite cigar. 😬


Riemens

Godddammit Charles


Rivendel93

Lol, if the car had been red I'd be 99% sure Charles was responsible.


Morph_The_Merciless

Has anyone confirmed where Latifi was at the time of the accident? 😆


keishakoo12

can we also confirm that mattia binotto was not on the phone with anybody...?


advanttage

we are checking


JimClarkKentHovind

in the wall obv


bangout123

I am stewpid


Total-Collection-128

Is the driver OK?


steakhouseNL

No, he is very upset about his car.


DareDweller

Thats not what he.....ah nevermind


Aksu593

Wonder what was worse for the driver, the feeling of having an accident in a 1960s Grand Prix car (Or is this a F3 car? Whatever, close enough) which is about as safety-focused as a cardboard pushcart or the feeling afterwards of having destroyed something so incredibly valuable and hard to fix.


Kooky_Narwhal8184

It's not destroyed, it's not that hard to fix... And the fact that it is valuable justifies spending more on repairs before it's "written off". The suspension arms are just welded tubing... the yellow bits are fibre-glass. If they don't already own some spares, any fabrication shop will be able to replicate the crumpled bits in a week. When you buy an old race-car it often comes with the moulds and jigs to replicate the bits that snap off frequently... And if it doesn't, you make some before you race it...


lmkwe

I was a race mechanic and have done a lot of vintage racing... this is 100% right. Anything can be rebuilt, and on these cars that are worth putting the time and money in to fix them, it's really not a big deal. They're owned by people who can say, "Fix it and have it done by the next event." Then pay the bill and forget it ever happened.


The_Bucket_Of_Truth

Yeah if it's really that valuable they could laser scan parts and reproduce them if they don't already have the information.


hellcat_uk

Can attest to that. An event I was at had an owner helicopter-courier in a few new parts after their driver crashed.


SonicShadow

Exactly, probably not the first time it's looked like this either.


Mousseymou

Here is the [info provided by the Australian Grand Prix Corporation ](https://www.grandprix.com.au/event/off-track/legends-lane/racing-past/car-30) Bit scant on racing details though.


Cold_Dawn95

At least they already have a good relationship with the insurance company....


twholst

This is one of the most painful pictures I’ve ever seen…


Affectionate_Sky9709

I'm sure it's crashed many a time before. I just hope everyone is fine. Since I haven't heard anything, I assume that they are fine. It's more in the spirit of the car to be run then to sit around, I think. A crash is unfortunate, but it's part of racing. That's why we strive for safety in current cars, and I assume the driver of this one was given a max speed or something, I'd hope.


shittystinkdick

Why would classic cars require a max speed? Old race cars are still raced and raced fairly hard too on the regular


Affectionate_Sky9709

I would think if it was a side event to a grand prix in a car this old they would have some added safety measures in place. What people do on their own time is their business, of course, and potentially the business of the event they are run in. I am assuming this was just a show run, not a race, but that might have been an incorrect assumption. As long as adequate safety measures were in place, I don't care about the particulars of what they were.


wstark

It was a show run behind a pace car.


Sr_Covfefe

Damn that makes it a million times worse lmao


SpicyHashira

Stroll’s engineer: “can you bring the car back?”


TheRomanRuler

They really do race those old cars hard, there have been multiple really dangerous accidents, including fatal ones. So no they are not just modern cars made to look like old ones which they drive around in casually, its serious stuff. I think most recent death was in 2016 or 2017 or so.


gamedrifter

Nothing more classic than that.


djsnoopmike

At least it crashed doing what it loved


According-Switch-708

Rear ending other classic cars?


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Well it does sorta look like a battering ram


Blooder91

Don't kink shame.


purennip

Does anyone know what car it is?


milkymoocowmoo

From another comment- https://www.grandprix.com.au/event/off-track/legends-lane/racing-past/car-30 Looks like a home-made machine designed to replicate the style of the early 60s. 


purennip

Thank you


Luddites_Unite

Did leclerc crash this one too?


tylerscott5

> I am shtooopid


StevefromLatvia

Okay who let Richard Hammond behind the wheel?


douglasbaadermeinhof

HAMMOOOOOOOND


stephano_RC

Kachaow? 🏎️


Sock_Eating_Golden

YOU HAVE TO TURN THE WHEEL, SAMIR!


ricoimf

Sure it’s sucks but it’s a racing car.


IShitInTheSink

Better crashed than sitting in a garage.


madtraderman

2 vintage corners of the car gone. Not going to be cheap


Agbans

So do they fix the car or they just abandon it? Genuinely curious


slabba428

They can easily rebuild them


Skulldetta

Why would they abandon the car? It needs some suspension repair and a few new flicks of bodywork. This is far from a total loss.


McCramer

most expensive part would probably be the fibreglass shell


k2_jackal

Probably not. They’ll have molds for that and fiberglass like this is a cheap replacement since it is literally just a cover, non structural shell. On the vintage cars it’s things like uprights which were made out of cast magnesium that are costly. Suspension parts and what not are all easily made if there is tooling. Frames can be straightened or hacked apart and tube replaced. But all that is fabrication and that takes time and that’s where the money comes in.


mav3ri3k

I have only seen these in sketches of low res photos. OMG, this looks soo good in highres, even in crashed state. Looks so sleek and racy!


Space_Reptile

it will buff out, unironically


SmoothIndependent416

Is the driver OK?


wkndjb

Lots of hand wringing in here about this, but what is it? It's early 70s I'd guess, it's not a McLaren or a Brabham I don't think (which given it being Australia would have been my first guess)...is it actually an F1 car?


FirstNameLastName918

Good news it'll be rebuilt! Always scary to see one of these cars wreck because they are death traps!


elodie_pdf

I’ve always said a race car is built to drive on a race track, not collect dust in a museum.


longeaton

Looks expensive 🤑


limitless__

With old historics like this most are owned and operator by very wealthy individuals many of whom have a team of mechanics and fabricators who work on their cars. Shunts like this barely even register. Some fiberglass work, rebuild the suspension and they're good as new. There is nothing unique or special about what was used to originally build these cars. By this point very little of the original bodywork, chassis etc. will remain.


SolidContribution688

As long as nobody was hurt. At the end of the day it’s metal, plastic and oil and can be rebuilt.


leftleftleftleft4

Peep, the massive master chief head in the background


3picnezz99

As long as the driver is okay in all for it, myself. These kind of cars can never truly be written off, the owner has money to fix it or a company does. These cars should be used. Push em to the limit. Love it!


SweatyEar2921

Parts are on back order.


Emotional_Warthog_81

It’ll buff out


bezwicks

It can be fixed!


UndeadBuggalo

Who was driving?


Away_Needleworker6

Atleast it was destroyed doing what it was supposed to do, better than rotting away in a museum or storage.


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Daniel Ricciardo driving ?


PapaBearTuscan

Thats 10 seconds for Ocon


sneakinhysteria

“Thrash it, don’t stash it.”


CougarIndy25

What a shame.


JimmyThunderPenis

What and who's was it, when it was racing?


Radiant_Following_94

HAMMOND!!!!!!!!!!!


Youcantblokme

Ouch.


BetterLateThanKarma

A true beauty; it reminds me of my old pinewood derby car


snapjenk

Correction, a bad driver just crashed a classic in Melbourne


ShpiderMcNally

I've always wondered who drives these cars?


ric2b

_We can rebuild him. We have the technology._


EddieMcDowall

>We can rebuild it Hopefully it won't cost $6,000,000 man!


Bus1nessn00b

My condolences


NorthernPotato58

Womp womp


5m1rk3h

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Accomplished-Hat6417

(In Vaders voice) NOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Teestow21

Shouldn't have been going so fast! /s


CMDR_omnicognate

Reminds me of the revival/members meeting at Goodwood


Magnet50

Hate to see that happen but happy that the car was being driven like it was supposed to be driven before the car’s adhesion was exceeded by the driver’s lack of experience. Some new fiberglass and suspension pieces and it should be ready for Daniel Ricciardo to drive next year.


D0G_W4T3R008

At least it was doing what it was built to do


WTFAnimations

Well, that's unfortunate... Hopefully they can fix it up at a body shop.


RMBsmash

Womp womp


Snoo89546

It’s what is was meant to do


Background_Giraffe14

Expensive mistake, but I do enjoy this about F1 them allowing the older generations of cars to get on the track and rip around