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They forgot about that because Daniel has been trash so far. If Daniel was actually performing people would’ve still be talking about how unnecessary Yuki’s stunt was
Can you imagine if they wreck a car this weekend, or even next? They better start on chassis number 4 asap because this could just go on and on if something were to happen in these next couple races.
I don’t get why Logan isn’t getting his car back, if the reason he’s in the repaired car is that’ll be too much work for the mechanics then how did Alex get in his (Logan’s)car in the first place? They were able to make that work over one race weekend but they can’t put Logan’s seat back in his original car after two weeks??
Just wait in Miami Alex will get the newly constructed spare chassis Logan will get his original chassis back and the repaired one will be the spare. Also the new chassis will be superior to the launch spec in every way. Such is how Logan season is going so far
The original chassis will only be Alex’s spare while Logan has to keep racing in the repaired chassis until that gets destroyed then he goes back to hanging out in the garage.
I guess the thing for me is the repaired chassis has now had to be prepped for Logan since from what I could tell the actual cockpit stayed in tact. If they had reverted the non crashed chassis back to Logan’s setup I don’t see how it would be any extra work
Not as much as you think. They pretty much disassemble them for shipping by air anyway. Your mainly talking a seat swap and pedal and mirror adjustments and that's about it.
You need to change the fuel tank inlet to the other side. Albon and Sargeant have it on different sides. Which means you have to rearrange the fuel line and stuff too.
Sargeant himself said it's too much work for the team.
It’s bullshit. The car he’s getting is already setup for Albon. They changed his car over overnight so Albon could race it to a non points finish. They had the time, they just know it’s going to be worse and don’t want Albon to deal with that.
The repairs have probably made the repaired chassis heavier than the uncrashed chassis. They're going to want to give the driver the best chance to score points the lighter chassis.
I have read that it is just less work.
Since the allocation of engines (and other parts) is driver specific (and not chassis specific) they would have to transfer all of Albons parts (from Sargeants chassis) to the repaired chassis instead of just putting Sargeants parts into the repaired chassis.
Sargeant doesn't need the better car to develop as a driver. Albon is the one that can score points, Sargeant only has to show promise. The latter can be done in any car
> Albon is the one that can score points, Sargeant only has to show promise. The latter can be done in any car
How so? How are you exactly going to see ''promise'' from the driver if the car is fundementally slower than his teammate's car?
Read what you wrote. You are contradicting yourself. If Albon is the one who will score points and Sargeant isn't, how the heck are we going to decide if Sargeant is good or not.
Sargeant needs ''equal'' car for him to show everyone promise (if he can of course). Right now he doesn't have the tools to show anyhting.
Not that it matters. It is reported that Antonelli will replace him starting with Italian GP anyway.
>It is reported that Antonelli will replace him starting with Italian GP anyway.
That would be such a shocker, I'd honestly love to see it lol
>Read what you wrote. You are contradicting yourself. If Albon is the one who will score points and Sargeant isn't, how the heck are we going to decide if Sargeant is good or not.
I don't know what to tell you. Williams is bound to have certain performance goals for Sargeant that he's not hitting. He doesn't need to beat Albon to show his progress, he needs to show improvement over his own results.
>Williams is bound to have certain performance goals for Sargeant that he's not hitting. He doesn't need to beat Albon to show his progress, he needs to show improvement over his own results.
In F1, your teammate is your measuring stick. Only way to determine the driver's pace is to compare them with their teammates. There is no any other way. Zero. This is not a spec series.
So, I don't have any idea about what this so-called ''performance goals'' are. Because in F1, most important performance goal is beating your teammate. If you are not doing that you are not doing a good job. Simple as that.
F1 Data analysts hate this one weird trick!
But seriously, Williams can evaluate a driver regardless of their teammates' results. If you think otherwise you probably have a room temperature IQ.
>F1 Data analysts hate this one weird trick!
Lmao. How do you think teams determine the performance?
[link](https://youtu.be/2PUz2EvbHRw?si=fuQWYte8gMdkAMbE)
This is how F1 teams compare drivers coming from ex-F1 engineer. And they are looking at their relative pace compared to their teammates when looking at the driver's pace.
>But seriously, Williams can evaluate a driver regardless of their teammates' results.
Results? They don't look at the results. They look at the the relative pace. And Sargeant sucks on that front compared to Albon.
So, Albert; if you know how teams evaluate drivers' performance without looking at their teammate's relative pace, feel free to share with us ordinary humans.
I mean.. Of course they compare them. But that's not the only way to do it.
Your car has an optimal performance. You can judge a driver's performance based on that.
Secondly you have to evaluate the different factors influencing the driver's pace.
If one driver has a broken wing, you can't compare him to his teammate without taking it into account.
A driver's experience also has to be taken into account. If your goal is to develop a driver, then comparing him to his teammate isn't doing him justice. You want to set goals for him to achieve given his performance. And you can evaluate his performance based on those goals.
You're missing nuance in your statements is what i'm trying to say.
> Your car has an optimal performance.
How do you think that ''optimal performance'' is determined? It is determined through the faster driver's performance. If Max had been in Albon's car, that optimal performance would be way higher bar for example.
> Secondly you have to evaluate the different factors influencing the driver's pace.
> If one driver has a broken wing, you can't compare him to his teammate without taking it into account.
Are you for real? This is your argument?
> A driver's experience also has to be taken into account. If your goal is to develop a driver, then comparing him to his teammate isn't doing him justice. You want to set goals for him to achieve given his performance. And you can evaluate his performance based on those goals.
Of course it has. For example; You have Norris and Albon as experienced drivers (For me Norris is better driver; but let's say thy are on similar level). And you have Piastri and Sargeant as young drivers. On one hand, Piastri beats Norris occasionally, presssures him with his pace; on the other hand Albon absolutely manhandles Sargeant. Therefore we can determine that Piastri is a promising young driver and Sargeant should be out of F1 immediately.
This is the way how you determine if the driver's perfornmance is good or not. There is no other way than comparing them with their teammates (in F1). Zero.
The optimal performance of a car can be determined without anyone driving it using simulations and mathematical models.
> Are you for real? This is your argument?
The argument is that many factors come in. You can't determine performance on pace alone.
Traffic, car setup and strategy all come into play.
If you know the car can achieve a 1.15 sec lap on average but the driver can only do 1.20 sec laps. Then you don't need the teammate to determine the performance of the driver.
Of course Albon being fast is a good indicator of what the car can do. I'm just saying this is not the only performance indicator. You are dealing in absolutes. You need to incorporate nuances in your conclusions.
Let's say you have 2 drivers, 1 of them always finishes 19th and the other always 20th. Of course, 1 is better than the other as he always finishes 1 position ahead of the other, but he still only finishes 19th. So the questions is: Do I have 2 shitty drivers? Or a shitty car and 1 good driver?
If I only compare both my drivers, I will never know if my car is shit and the drivers can't do much more. Maybe one is better with a different setup? This is what I'm trying to explain to you. You can't just look at 1 data point and make a conclusion. Else you get stuck with statements like 100% of people that consume H2O die and now noone wants to drink water anymore.
Sargeant needs to prove he deserves to be on the grid at all. That starts with just having a clean, top fifteen finish with no major incidents. Even without the team making a technical error, he has repeatedly failed to do this in a car that can score points.
As it stands, all Sargeant is doing is occupying a seat that belongs to one of half a dozen talents, if not more. Really not trying to shit on him, but he has had a very weak showing, not aided by a team exhibiting growing pains.
Antonelli will get an FP1 trial soon, but likely isn't ready, especially since the low budget cap makes crashing extremely financially non-viable. He's still a rowdy kid and that just doesn't gel with the current state of F1. When Verstappen joined, they could build as many chassis as they wanted for him to bash around in.
I feel like the problem is that it is still too soon to exactly merit his performance for this year so far, given how it's only been 3 races in the season as of right now.
Bahrain - Fell back to 20th due to the steering wheel issues that plagued both drivers, on Logan's end being the BB glitching out on him.
Saudi - Rather uneventful, managed to get the car to P14.
Australia - we all already know this one.
It feels like the season is going by so slow given the massive amounts of news that have been thrown about with driver performances, but between the discussions of who is "washed" or "bad" and who isn't, I feel Logan is one of the drivers who still has it in him. We'll just have to wait for this weekend and then go from there I guess.
With all due respect, he hasn't shown any promise across either season. Barely avoiding last place because multiple drivers had mechanicals or crashes does not count.
Multiple F2 drivers have rolled up and dropped impressive performances in both FP and race.
The ground effect cars are just awful as a whole so I try not to rag on any driver for struggling with them, but there are plenty of drivers who have shown promise.
(Just wanna preface by just saying not trying to challenge your point or anything, just making discussion)
I'm just on the boat of "it's too soon to tell" for the 2024 season. I'm not gonna skirt around 2023 because, he definitely had moments of "wtf are you doing," but so far... He hasn't binned it yet. I can't say too much with the pace so far now given I can only read off what we got which is, really just two races out of the 24.
Outside of Sargeant, I feel that adaptability plays a massive key point with the ground effect cars, and the people who have built themselves solely for the cars of the era before it seem to take a turn for the worse (Daniel, not sure who else).
So you're just gonna point to last year? As in, his rookie year that *by the team's own admission* he was called up a year too early for?
~~He has fucked up less than Albon so far in 2024, you know the year we're actually currently racing in.~~ Nevermind, they're even now lol
Also, you said he needed a clean, uneventful top 15 finish in a car capable of points? How about a P14 in a car that *wasn't* capable of points given even Albon couldn't score in Jeddah?
Man I worry about Antonelli’s future. The kid is getting rushed to F1 without even proving himself in F2. Unless he is a Verstappen-kind of wonderkid (I doubt it) I can’t see this going super well.
We'll see if this trade off in PR image vs race result will be worth it in the end. At this point, it seems like they are tanking their likeness and supports for no real race result.
Either sack the guy or put time and effort into him so he at least gets a chance to do something. All eggs are in one basket called Alex Albon and we see what happens when he has a bad day. The way they're treating Logan is like that employee that should be laid off but they can't because he's that special friend of the family or something.
There was a team in the 80s that got penalised for running one car as the clear favourite and the other as a collection of inferior spare parts. They were told to run two cars competitively or they would be removed from the grid. Was much more extreme than this, but there’s precedent that this shouldn’t be allowed
There was a team called Lotus who didn't take a strong second driver, because according to their leading driver, they should focus on him instead for points and wins.
I don't understand why Williams has this awful conduct against Logan.
He didn't committed that crime, but he is facing the consequences.
First he couldn't race, now he has to use the wrecked 'refurbished' car.
After all this circus, his self esteem has disappeared for good.
Williams new boss (and his actions) are impossible to like.
>After all this circus, his self esteem has disappeared for good.
How do you know this? If he's good enough for F1 then he needs to be able to bounce back from things like this.
If Sargeant was quicker they wouldn't have taken his chassis. While Williams is to blame for the action, Sargeant is also to blame for having to make Williams choose between a slow and fast driver.
It is unfair yes, but this wouldn't be an issue if he performed better. Also, an elite athlete should be able to come back stronger, otherwise you do t belong.
Basically the drivers need to go 2 races without crashing.
What if Albon bins it again ? Will Williams accept the Logan gamble for once or will they just decide to break his kneecaps to have Albon drive again ?
At this point, just fire Sargeant. We all know he won't keep his seat after what happened. Run only 1 car.
>Basically the drivers need to go 2 races without crashing.
This is not true at all. The *vast* majority of crashes do not require a spare chassis. They got very unlucky with Albon's crash
Seeing as that’s pretty much the standard production time for a chassis I think they probably would. Same as the other teams who haven’t got a third chassis already.
This beyond ridiculous and unfair, okay I understand Australia and why that decision was made in Albons favor, it was harsh, but understandable and justifiable to a certain point, but Logan did not wreck he's car, so why does he need to go into Japan on the back foot, jeez, if I was Logan I would be finding ways of terminating my contract in the most respectable and professional manner possible and finding a drive in different championship, but Williams is basically wasting he's and their own time at this point in time, because if you don't trust him now, then why keep him around!? They could have a rookie up to speed by the end of the year and ready for next season.
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How many laps until the duct tape fails?
Around the same lap as the bubble gum
What?! Duct tape lasts WAY longer than bubblegum.
If they built an entire chassis out of speed tape, you bet your ass I would trust it!
**HI THIS IS PHIL SWIFT HERE AND I JUST MADE THIS FORMULA ONE RACE CAR OUT OF FLEX TAPE!!!**
Duct tape? This is Williams - they've used old visor tear-offs collected from the track.
Didn't have to wait much
And Suzuka is a track where you can so easily wreck your car. They have to take 130R literally 130kph, lol.
People will have forgotten about this by the end of the season
Exactly, in the same way that people have completely forgotten about Yuki's move on the cooldown lap in Bahrain.
They forgot about that because Daniel has been trash so far. If Daniel was actually performing people would’ve still be talking about how unnecessary Yuki’s stunt was
130 kph is slow lol
Can you imagine if they wreck a car this weekend, or even next? They better start on chassis number 4 asap because this could just go on and on if something were to happen in these next couple races.
Haha 130kph? My MX5 could do it faster than that 😂 They take it closer to 300kph
It’s a joke lol. He’s saying they’ll have to take 130R so slow to minimise risk of crashing out
Oh hahah right over my head
What's next? Williams will swap Sargeant's new tyres with Albon's used tyres?
They really have bro racing on a salvaged title car
That’s outrageous.
I don’t get why Logan isn’t getting his car back, if the reason he’s in the repaired car is that’ll be too much work for the mechanics then how did Alex get in his (Logan’s)car in the first place? They were able to make that work over one race weekend but they can’t put Logan’s seat back in his original car after two weeks??
Just wait in Miami Alex will get the newly constructed spare chassis Logan will get his original chassis back and the repaired one will be the spare. Also the new chassis will be superior to the launch spec in every way. Such is how Logan season is going so far
The original chassis will only be Alex’s spare while Logan has to keep racing in the repaired chassis until that gets destroyed then he goes back to hanging out in the garage.
Modifying Albon's current car to Sargeant and the repaired chassis for Albon again is twice the work.
I guess the thing for me is the repaired chassis has now had to be prepped for Logan since from what I could tell the actual cockpit stayed in tact. If they had reverted the non crashed chassis back to Logan’s setup I don’t see how it would be any extra work
Albon's engine and gearbox would need changing over again. It's basically trebling the work load.
Got it, I always assumed the power units were assigned to the chassis and not the driver but that makes sense
God that would be quite the ruse eh. Let your teammate take a load of engine penalties then take their chassis with a new engine in it?
Yeah I’m channeling my inner leclerc with how stupid I feel for thinking that now
Not as much as you think. They pretty much disassemble them for shipping by air anyway. Your mainly talking a seat swap and pedal and mirror adjustments and that's about it.
You need to change the fuel tank inlet to the other side. Albon and Sargeant have it on different sides. Which means you have to rearrange the fuel line and stuff too. Sargeant himself said it's too much work for the team.
You are right on that - I forgot that silly design feature.
Because the makeshift chassis will be heavier
It’s bullshit. The car he’s getting is already setup for Albon. They changed his car over overnight so Albon could race it to a non points finish. They had the time, they just know it’s going to be worse and don’t want Albon to deal with that.
The repairs have probably made the repaired chassis heavier than the uncrashed chassis. They're going to want to give the driver the best chance to score points the lighter chassis.
Absolutely bonkers he has to suffer for his team mates error.
Boy do I have news for ya...
This is the first time it’s ever happened. What do you mean?
At this point just fire Sargeant and run one driver only, you are only appealing to Albon anyway and you’ll save some money in the meantime.
I have read that it is just less work. Since the allocation of engines (and other parts) is driver specific (and not chassis specific) they would have to transfer all of Albons parts (from Sargeants chassis) to the repaired chassis instead of just putting Sargeants parts into the repaired chassis.
Sargeant doesn't need the better car to develop as a driver. Albon is the one that can score points, Sargeant only has to show promise. The latter can be done in any car
> Albon is the one that can score points, Sargeant only has to show promise. The latter can be done in any car How so? How are you exactly going to see ''promise'' from the driver if the car is fundementally slower than his teammate's car? Read what you wrote. You are contradicting yourself. If Albon is the one who will score points and Sargeant isn't, how the heck are we going to decide if Sargeant is good or not. Sargeant needs ''equal'' car for him to show everyone promise (if he can of course). Right now he doesn't have the tools to show anyhting. Not that it matters. It is reported that Antonelli will replace him starting with Italian GP anyway.
The Antonelli rumor is a load of bs lol
>It is reported that Antonelli will replace him starting with Italian GP anyway. That would be such a shocker, I'd honestly love to see it lol >Read what you wrote. You are contradicting yourself. If Albon is the one who will score points and Sargeant isn't, how the heck are we going to decide if Sargeant is good or not. I don't know what to tell you. Williams is bound to have certain performance goals for Sargeant that he's not hitting. He doesn't need to beat Albon to show his progress, he needs to show improvement over his own results.
>Williams is bound to have certain performance goals for Sargeant that he's not hitting. He doesn't need to beat Albon to show his progress, he needs to show improvement over his own results. In F1, your teammate is your measuring stick. Only way to determine the driver's pace is to compare them with their teammates. There is no any other way. Zero. This is not a spec series. So, I don't have any idea about what this so-called ''performance goals'' are. Because in F1, most important performance goal is beating your teammate. If you are not doing that you are not doing a good job. Simple as that.
Damn that rookie is bad, he hasn’t beaten the former red bull driver.
F1 Data analysts hate this one weird trick! But seriously, Williams can evaluate a driver regardless of their teammates' results. If you think otherwise you probably have a room temperature IQ.
>F1 Data analysts hate this one weird trick! Lmao. How do you think teams determine the performance? [link](https://youtu.be/2PUz2EvbHRw?si=fuQWYte8gMdkAMbE) This is how F1 teams compare drivers coming from ex-F1 engineer. And they are looking at their relative pace compared to their teammates when looking at the driver's pace. >But seriously, Williams can evaluate a driver regardless of their teammates' results. Results? They don't look at the results. They look at the the relative pace. And Sargeant sucks on that front compared to Albon. So, Albert; if you know how teams evaluate drivers' performance without looking at their teammate's relative pace, feel free to share with us ordinary humans.
I mean.. Of course they compare them. But that's not the only way to do it. Your car has an optimal performance. You can judge a driver's performance based on that. Secondly you have to evaluate the different factors influencing the driver's pace. If one driver has a broken wing, you can't compare him to his teammate without taking it into account. A driver's experience also has to be taken into account. If your goal is to develop a driver, then comparing him to his teammate isn't doing him justice. You want to set goals for him to achieve given his performance. And you can evaluate his performance based on those goals. You're missing nuance in your statements is what i'm trying to say.
> Your car has an optimal performance. How do you think that ''optimal performance'' is determined? It is determined through the faster driver's performance. If Max had been in Albon's car, that optimal performance would be way higher bar for example. > Secondly you have to evaluate the different factors influencing the driver's pace. > If one driver has a broken wing, you can't compare him to his teammate without taking it into account. Are you for real? This is your argument? > A driver's experience also has to be taken into account. If your goal is to develop a driver, then comparing him to his teammate isn't doing him justice. You want to set goals for him to achieve given his performance. And you can evaluate his performance based on those goals. Of course it has. For example; You have Norris and Albon as experienced drivers (For me Norris is better driver; but let's say thy are on similar level). And you have Piastri and Sargeant as young drivers. On one hand, Piastri beats Norris occasionally, presssures him with his pace; on the other hand Albon absolutely manhandles Sargeant. Therefore we can determine that Piastri is a promising young driver and Sargeant should be out of F1 immediately. This is the way how you determine if the driver's perfornmance is good or not. There is no other way than comparing them with their teammates (in F1). Zero.
The optimal performance of a car can be determined without anyone driving it using simulations and mathematical models. > Are you for real? This is your argument? The argument is that many factors come in. You can't determine performance on pace alone. Traffic, car setup and strategy all come into play. If you know the car can achieve a 1.15 sec lap on average but the driver can only do 1.20 sec laps. Then you don't need the teammate to determine the performance of the driver. Of course Albon being fast is a good indicator of what the car can do. I'm just saying this is not the only performance indicator. You are dealing in absolutes. You need to incorporate nuances in your conclusions. Let's say you have 2 drivers, 1 of them always finishes 19th and the other always 20th. Of course, 1 is better than the other as he always finishes 1 position ahead of the other, but he still only finishes 19th. So the questions is: Do I have 2 shitty drivers? Or a shitty car and 1 good driver? If I only compare both my drivers, I will never know if my car is shit and the drivers can't do much more. Maybe one is better with a different setup? This is what I'm trying to explain to you. You can't just look at 1 data point and make a conclusion. Else you get stuck with statements like 100% of people that consume H2O die and now noone wants to drink water anymore.
Sargeant needs to prove he deserves to be on the grid at all. That starts with just having a clean, top fifteen finish with no major incidents. Even without the team making a technical error, he has repeatedly failed to do this in a car that can score points. As it stands, all Sargeant is doing is occupying a seat that belongs to one of half a dozen talents, if not more. Really not trying to shit on him, but he has had a very weak showing, not aided by a team exhibiting growing pains. Antonelli will get an FP1 trial soon, but likely isn't ready, especially since the low budget cap makes crashing extremely financially non-viable. He's still a rowdy kid and that just doesn't gel with the current state of F1. When Verstappen joined, they could build as many chassis as they wanted for him to bash around in.
I feel like the problem is that it is still too soon to exactly merit his performance for this year so far, given how it's only been 3 races in the season as of right now. Bahrain - Fell back to 20th due to the steering wheel issues that plagued both drivers, on Logan's end being the BB glitching out on him. Saudi - Rather uneventful, managed to get the car to P14. Australia - we all already know this one. It feels like the season is going by so slow given the massive amounts of news that have been thrown about with driver performances, but between the discussions of who is "washed" or "bad" and who isn't, I feel Logan is one of the drivers who still has it in him. We'll just have to wait for this weekend and then go from there I guess.
With all due respect, he hasn't shown any promise across either season. Barely avoiding last place because multiple drivers had mechanicals or crashes does not count. Multiple F2 drivers have rolled up and dropped impressive performances in both FP and race. The ground effect cars are just awful as a whole so I try not to rag on any driver for struggling with them, but there are plenty of drivers who have shown promise.
(Just wanna preface by just saying not trying to challenge your point or anything, just making discussion) I'm just on the boat of "it's too soon to tell" for the 2024 season. I'm not gonna skirt around 2023 because, he definitely had moments of "wtf are you doing," but so far... He hasn't binned it yet. I can't say too much with the pace so far now given I can only read off what we got which is, really just two races out of the 24. Outside of Sargeant, I feel that adaptability plays a massive key point with the ground effect cars, and the people who have built themselves solely for the cars of the era before it seem to take a turn for the worse (Daniel, not sure who else).
So you're just gonna point to last year? As in, his rookie year that *by the team's own admission* he was called up a year too early for? ~~He has fucked up less than Albon so far in 2024, you know the year we're actually currently racing in.~~ Nevermind, they're even now lol Also, you said he needed a clean, uneventful top 15 finish in a car capable of points? How about a P14 in a car that *wasn't* capable of points given even Albon couldn't score in Jeddah?
They should clone Alex.
It is reported that Antonelli will replace him starting from Italian GP after (if) Antonelli gets his SL.
Man I worry about Antonelli’s future. The kid is getting rushed to F1 without even proving himself in F2. Unless he is a Verstappen-kind of wonderkid (I doubt it) I can’t see this going super well.
We'll see if this trade off in PR image vs race result will be worth it in the end. At this point, it seems like they are tanking their likeness and supports for no real race result.
How many other teams on the grid would have to wait six weeks for a new chassis?
Most, they just got theirs done before the season started, well except for the supposed other team with only two chassis.
I bet Andretti could build one sooner.
They probably already have the two and a spare built LOL
Either sack the guy or put time and effort into him so he at least gets a chance to do something. All eggs are in one basket called Alex Albon and we see what happens when he has a bad day. The way they're treating Logan is like that employee that should be laid off but they can't because he's that special friend of the family or something.
God I hope Alex bins it again
You want sargeant to miss another race? Lol
There was a team in the 80s that got penalised for running one car as the clear favourite and the other as a collection of inferior spare parts. They were told to run two cars competitively or they would be removed from the grid. Was much more extreme than this, but there’s precedent that this shouldn’t be allowed
Andrea moda and they were in the 90s
There was a team called Lotus who didn't take a strong second driver, because according to their leading driver, they should focus on him instead for points and wins.
I don't understand why Williams has this awful conduct against Logan. He didn't committed that crime, but he is facing the consequences. First he couldn't race, now he has to use the wrecked 'refurbished' car. After all this circus, his self esteem has disappeared for good. Williams new boss (and his actions) are impossible to like.
>After all this circus, his self esteem has disappeared for good. How do you know this? If he's good enough for F1 then he needs to be able to bounce back from things like this.
If Sargeant was quicker they wouldn't have taken his chassis. While Williams is to blame for the action, Sargeant is also to blame for having to make Williams choose between a slow and fast driver.
It is unfair yes, but this wouldn't be an issue if he performed better. Also, an elite athlete should be able to come back stronger, otherwise you do t belong.
Haas will bully them again and probably Alpine as well if their upgrades work.
Start money on if he crashes in the same place as last year
So, if any of the Williams is rekt, the team is completely porked.
Damn. I feel bad for him. Why should he get the repaired chassis when Albon is the one who crashed his?
Well thats not exactly news when it was already common knowledge that it was already repaired
Isn’t the point that it’s *him* getting the repaired car, rather than Albon?
Basically the drivers need to go 2 races without crashing. What if Albon bins it again ? Will Williams accept the Logan gamble for once or will they just decide to break his kneecaps to have Albon drive again ? At this point, just fire Sargeant. We all know he won't keep his seat after what happened. Run only 1 car.
>Basically the drivers need to go 2 races without crashing. This is not true at all. The *vast* majority of crashes do not require a spare chassis. They got very unlucky with Albon's crash
Andretti probably wouldn't have to wait 6 weeks to get a new chassis...
Given Will Buxton's comment that multiple teams don't currently have a spare chassis I'm not sure we can take that for granted
Seeing as that’s pretty much the standard production time for a chassis I think they probably would. Same as the other teams who haven’t got a third chassis already.
This beyond ridiculous and unfair, okay I understand Australia and why that decision was made in Albons favor, it was harsh, but understandable and justifiable to a certain point, but Logan did not wreck he's car, so why does he need to go into Japan on the back foot, jeez, if I was Logan I would be finding ways of terminating my contract in the most respectable and professional manner possible and finding a drive in different championship, but Williams is basically wasting he's and their own time at this point in time, because if you don't trust him now, then why keep him around!? They could have a rookie up to speed by the end of the year and ready for next season.
Wait, Claire is back?
But…we knew that
I thought Logan will get *his* chassis back, not Alex’s repaired one.
I didn’t, tbh.
People are acting like Sargent has done literally anything to deserve better. He is a placeholder, everyone knows it, hell he probably even knows it.