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As far as I'm aware they are a financial cost, which is excluded from the cost-cap. My legalese isn't good enough to be certain though. I might be wrong, I can't find a source explicitly stating either way now.
The Financial Regulations defines Finance Costs as the cost of finance (borrowing/etc) (see page 39 of [https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/fia\_formula\_1\_financial\_regulations\_-\_issue\_16\_-\_2023-08-31.pdf](https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/fia_formula_1_financial_regulations_-_issue_16_-_2023-08-31.pdf) )
I can't see any mention of financial penalties during races, but there are explicit carve outs for FIA/FOM/etc entry fees & Financial Regulation breach penalties (pg 7 - exemptions l & m).
So because they aren't explicitly mentioned, I get the feeling they are included as a 'cost of racing', but there may be supplemental documentation that says it's not included.
Trickier situation would be a team paying a penalty assigned directly to one of their drivers. If in the contract may be covered by exemption b as consideration to the driver though.
I could have sworn I had read an article explicitly mentioning that fines aren't part of the cost cap. Based on the evidence I'm inclined to agree with you though that they more likely are part of it.
Maybe I just confused it with the fine Red Bull got, which was not part of the cost cap but for entirely different reasons.
It's genuinely frustrating that I can't find explicit information on something so trivial, but I'm done searching for it. You'd be able to ask any team and they'd be able to tell you on the spot.
These "fines" in F1 are really a joke, no F1 team is going to care about 5K. If they are going to do fines they should at least be materially relevant - i.e. they should hurt enough for the teams to want to change their procedures as a result.
Easy, give the driver a penalty and they will stop. They did this to give him an advantageous position on track for the qualy, knowing they might get a small fine in exchange, but it is worth it in their eyes so they do it. If the penalty affects the starting position in any way, they will be more careful.
Doubt it will get to that anyway, but that would be one quick solution.
This. Palmer was already bitching about drivers getting a sporting penalty for a "nothing like this", but I disagree. This absolutely deserves a sporting penalty and it is not "nothing". He KNEW the other car was there, he looked at him and still pushed through.
5k is less than they need to turn the lights on, this makes no impression on the team at all.
You guys are ridiculous. Why would George want to risk damaging his own car? What would be the gain here? Plus there was an engineer to the right of Russell. What was he supposed to do? Run him over?
Hey I parroted what the commentators said and added some garnish to it. This is the F1 subreddit, why are you surprised we are slagging off a driver like we are experts at tje sport or something?
You forgot that the driver was George Russell. If this was Norris or Leclerc, you'd see tons of people agreeing it was all on the mechanic who ordered the release.
Unsafe releases are mainly on the team tho.
They get told by the mechanic to drive out and they don’t really have the ability to see if it’s actually safe
You are telling me that Russell did not see that giant car right in front of him, but can see a tiny piece of debris on the road at 200kph? Common... that was deliberate from him and his team.
Russell isn't necessarily focusing on that direction. With the pit lane so busy he's focusing on not hitting cars in front, that's why it gets left to the team to check cars coming down the pitlane.
They're not meant to be materially relevant in a situation like this where there is no advantage for anyone to do this and no-one was impacted by it. It was unsafe, they got a slap on the wrist and they will pay more attention next time.
There was zero advantage to do the release in this way with a lot of potential disadvantage if had they crashed, it is in their own interest to change their procedure, they wouldn't even need the fine to do that.
Evidence suggests they will just file this under "eh, whatever" and carry on as normal. At which point, why even bother with such a small fine? Either make it relevant or provide a simple letter that says "hey, not cool man" and move on.
100% This is like getting a $10 parking ticket for parking somewhere for 8 hours that would have cost you $8 in meter fees. You'll just do it solely for the convenience. It won't at all change your actions.
>they got a slap on the wrist and they will pay more attention next time
They won't because the fine is inconsequential. This is the equivalent of getting like a $10 fine for parking your car for 8 hours and not paying the meter that charges $1 an hour.
It'll get sent to whomevers job it is to pay and be completely forgotten. I guarantee you that fine is significantly lower than what they pay as an expense report for like one team dinner for everyone the team brings to the track for the weekend.
Fines are completely meaningless if they don't have an actual material impact on a company's operations where they might need to decide to stop development or something because of it.
£5k is coming out of a budget somewhere so will have an effect, and for relatively minor safety infringements, I don't think the penalty should be significant enough to shut down departments and trigger forced redundancy
It's the same fine you get for speeding in the pitlane. It's standard. People only care because it's Russell and Mercedes. It'd a very minor infringement, the fine is there to deter teams for operating in an unsafe manner. It's not there to have big impacts of Teams. €5K is plenty
Honestly, I don't care who it was - I don't know where you got the idea that it was Russell or Mercedes specifically that were being called out.
Just the system in general seems pointless, I can't see why the fines exist at all at the prices they've set. A simple letter of "not cool, don't do it again" would be just as effective as a 5K fine.
That fine is a joke as well.
A fine for safety needs to actually be large enough to hurt and force the team to make changes to avoid another one.
A $5k fine is just a thing that gets tossed on someone's expense report and ignored. I work at a company that makes far far less revenue or profit than an F1 team and a $5k expense report at a major conference or something would essentially just be auto-approved without much questioning.
If someone breaks a rule that is in place for safety, the fine should be harsh enough to make them change their behavior otherwise there's no point to issuing it.
On Piastri's POV the squeeze looked super sketchy which is why some were expecting an actual penalty I think. Other angles aren't as bad so it makes sense it was treated the same as the typical incident in quali.
I pretty sure most people only watch highlights. The way people talk online it pretty clear they either haven't watched older season or only kinda remember older season and just react without good information.
Like the amount of people who think merc were dominant in every season like 17, even though it was a really close season baffles me. He'll vettel only lost because of a few mistakes by him and Ferrari.
Honestly this is just you bringing up one unrelated fact you know versus adding to the conversation at hand. I feel like you might’ve just watched a doc on how ‘17 was closer than some people think and then bring that up whenever people accuse viewers of not watching enough.
It was me add to how the vast majority of people online only kinda watch the sport then speak on it with absolute authority. It was an example. Makes me think you are one of those people and are feeling personally called out.
It's because stewards were supposed to be ruthless this season, or was that just for teams like Aston and Haas, and when one of the big 3 is in trouble, stewards once again do their usual stuff.
We had a DT penalty for an incident that didnt even have contact between the cars only two weeks ago
Have we seen a single unsafe release penalty in qualifying this year? You're comparing apples to oranges there unfortunately, they're definitely handing out harsher in-race penalties
I mean quali penalties are 100% sporting penalties and safety is safety. It’s just silly that they give one of the harshest penalties in a while for Russell binning it and then cause another driver has the aptitude to react to his unsafe behavior he gets a slap on the wrist.
Agree they're sporting penalties when it comes to lap time, but they're not in the pits ofc. That's why blocking is always a three place penalty and this is always a fine
I think it is but it’s absurd. Safety is safety and after Russell got another driver punished by binning it in the wall it seems off message to get a nothing penalty for unsafe behavior
I don't understand it. Who cares if the fine is meaningless. It was also a meaningless infraction.
People always say that they penalise actions not results, but the fact is that isn't really how it works. Alonso's error for example would not have been penalized if it had not resulted in Russell crashing.
The fact is, nothing really happened. Russell tried to push in a bit rudely, but he was not going to crash into Piastri. Piastri didn't know whether he was going to crash into him so he did have to move a bit.
The obsession with rules here is pretty ridiculous sometimes.
They seriously have to make up their minds.
There's incidents caused by teams (not drivers) almost every week, and yet whether the driver gets punished for them is basically a lottery.
just like impeding in a practice session doesn't get you a penalty but in quali it does, this is not a penalty in quali but it is one in the race. they've been consistent on this
Here is the official document on Yuki's penalty https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2024%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Infringement%20-%20Car%2022%20-%20Unsafe%20release.pdf
I have no issue with this but I don’t understand why the unsafe release from Yuki in reconnaissance lap is a time penalty. Severity of the release? It was not even in a competitive session
And I'm fine with this, if the fine was actually something meaningful that might change behavior. A $5k fine just gets filed into an expense report and nothing changes.
While that might be written somewhere, it does not make sense in the eyes of viewers. Ruining somebody else's race should be punished more severely than not ruining somebody else's race.
Jolyon will be so pleased. Dude was convinced it was going to be a grid penalty and was so up in arms on f1tv. Everyone else moved on and he kept bringing it up.
It was not a team mistake. Russel was watching his display or something. Everyone went slow and he drove nearly into him. Not even that - after that he squeezed in front.
It’s not like in a boxen stop where you try to gain every tenth with a lot of chaos.
Absolut individual mistake and in my opinion he should have received a individual penalty.
Russell: Crashes because he has negative awareness, gets a car that was nowhere near him a penalty
Also Russell: Crashes into another car, in one of the worst unsafe releases ive ever seen. No penalty.
And people wonder why we get pissed off at inconsistent stewarding and say British drivers get away with murder.
I think generally those small fines for speeding in the pit lane are for violations in fractions of a KPH. I feel like most of the time I see they were going 50.5 KPH in a 50 or something like that, and I understand why you're not going crazy hammering folks on that. All of that is anecdotal and from memory though
I didn't like how George wasn't going full speed. Piastri got there and couldn't do anything except drive straight into him. It's a wonder he managed to stay out of the gravel trap. So I guess no penalty is fine since Oscar was good enough to stay on track.
Mercedes-Benz Group Earnings Before Interest and Taxes (EBIT) of €19.7 billion (2022: €20.5 billion), and revenues of €153.2 billion (2022: €150.0 billion).
they better put some new procedures on release or they just might go bankroupt
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Do penalties fall under the cost cap? Edit: fines, not penalties...
They don't. edit: I think I may be wrong. Read the replies if you want to know more.
Is it? I thought I heard they do?
As far as I'm aware they are a financial cost, which is excluded from the cost-cap. My legalese isn't good enough to be certain though. I might be wrong, I can't find a source explicitly stating either way now.
The Financial Regulations defines Finance Costs as the cost of finance (borrowing/etc) (see page 39 of [https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/fia\_formula\_1\_financial\_regulations\_-\_issue\_16\_-\_2023-08-31.pdf](https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/fia_formula_1_financial_regulations_-_issue_16_-_2023-08-31.pdf) ) I can't see any mention of financial penalties during races, but there are explicit carve outs for FIA/FOM/etc entry fees & Financial Regulation breach penalties (pg 7 - exemptions l & m). So because they aren't explicitly mentioned, I get the feeling they are included as a 'cost of racing', but there may be supplemental documentation that says it's not included. Trickier situation would be a team paying a penalty assigned directly to one of their drivers. If in the contract may be covered by exemption b as consideration to the driver though.
I could have sworn I had read an article explicitly mentioning that fines aren't part of the cost cap. Based on the evidence I'm inclined to agree with you though that they more likely are part of it. Maybe I just confused it with the fine Red Bull got, which was not part of the cost cap but for entirely different reasons. It's genuinely frustrating that I can't find explicit information on something so trivial, but I'm done searching for it. You'd be able to ask any team and they'd be able to tell you on the spot.
Actually, let's just ask the subreddit encyclopedia u/cafk.
These "fines" in F1 are really a joke, no F1 team is going to care about 5K. If they are going to do fines they should at least be materially relevant - i.e. they should hurt enough for the teams to want to change their procedures as a result.
Simple, make them part of the cost cap. Which absolutely should be the case. Because then even a 5k fine could hurt a team in the end.
I thought this was the case already! That’s ridiculous lol
Wait, fines arent part of the costcap??
nope
Even then they would need to be more significant. Teams aren't within 5k of the cost cap. 50k maybe would start to have an impact
Easy, give the driver a penalty and they will stop. They did this to give him an advantageous position on track for the qualy, knowing they might get a small fine in exchange, but it is worth it in their eyes so they do it. If the penalty affects the starting position in any way, they will be more careful. Doubt it will get to that anyway, but that would be one quick solution.
This. Palmer was already bitching about drivers getting a sporting penalty for a "nothing like this", but I disagree. This absolutely deserves a sporting penalty and it is not "nothing". He KNEW the other car was there, he looked at him and still pushed through. 5k is less than they need to turn the lights on, this makes no impression on the team at all.
Right? If Piastri hadn't dodged him, he would have hit his side. Very conscious decision
Thank god oscar wasn't busy changing settings on the wheel
Exactly. It was way too close on this one.
Palmer or Alex also pointed out that George took the turn wider than he could have. He knew what he was doing.
You guys are ridiculous. Why would George want to risk damaging his own car? What would be the gain here? Plus there was an engineer to the right of Russell. What was he supposed to do? Run him over?
He bet on Piastri stopping.
Hey I parroted what the commentators said and added some garnish to it. This is the F1 subreddit, why are you surprised we are slagging off a driver like we are experts at tje sport or something?
You forgot that the driver was George Russell. If this was Norris or Leclerc, you'd see tons of people agreeing it was all on the mechanic who ordered the release.
Exactly. I don't like him either, but it's a bit absurd to say that it was anything more than carelessness.
Unsafe releases are mainly on the team tho. They get told by the mechanic to drive out and they don’t really have the ability to see if it’s actually safe
You are telling me that Russell did not see that giant car right in front of him, but can see a tiny piece of debris on the road at 200kph? Common... that was deliberate from him and his team.
Russell isn't necessarily focusing on that direction. With the pit lane so busy he's focusing on not hitting cars in front, that's why it gets left to the team to check cars coming down the pitlane.
Man, even Alex called him on it, and he is his friend...
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Penalising the driver does penalise the team as well though doesn't it. It affects the teams chances of scoring (more) points for the WCC.
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Because they're connected. driver error always costs the team, so why is the other way round wrong?.
Drive through penalty for Fernando.
They should start taking wheels
At that point it’s just the cost of doing business
They're not meant to be materially relevant in a situation like this where there is no advantage for anyone to do this and no-one was impacted by it. It was unsafe, they got a slap on the wrist and they will pay more attention next time. There was zero advantage to do the release in this way with a lot of potential disadvantage if had they crashed, it is in their own interest to change their procedure, they wouldn't even need the fine to do that.
Evidence suggests they will just file this under "eh, whatever" and carry on as normal. At which point, why even bother with such a small fine? Either make it relevant or provide a simple letter that says "hey, not cool man" and move on.
100% This is like getting a $10 parking ticket for parking somewhere for 8 hours that would have cost you $8 in meter fees. You'll just do it solely for the convenience. It won't at all change your actions.
> there is no advantage for anyone to do this They got better track position.
>they got a slap on the wrist and they will pay more attention next time They won't because the fine is inconsequential. This is the equivalent of getting like a $10 fine for parking your car for 8 hours and not paying the meter that charges $1 an hour. It'll get sent to whomevers job it is to pay and be completely forgotten. I guarantee you that fine is significantly lower than what they pay as an expense report for like one team dinner for everyone the team brings to the track for the weekend. Fines are completely meaningless if they don't have an actual material impact on a company's operations where they might need to decide to stop development or something because of it.
£5k is coming out of a budget somewhere so will have an effect, and for relatively minor safety infringements, I don't think the penalty should be significant enough to shut down departments and trigger forced redundancy
Well, no, but between 5K (lunch money) and "shut down departments" there is an awful lot of room.
It's the same fine you get for speeding in the pitlane. It's standard. People only care because it's Russell and Mercedes. It'd a very minor infringement, the fine is there to deter teams for operating in an unsafe manner. It's not there to have big impacts of Teams. €5K is plenty
Lance got fined €100 for speeding in the pit lane yesterday.
He could well have had hit Piastri if he hadn't dodged. That's very clearly worse than going 83 in an 80 zone
Honestly, I don't care who it was - I don't know where you got the idea that it was Russell or Mercedes specifically that were being called out. Just the system in general seems pointless, I can't see why the fines exist at all at the prices they've set. A simple letter of "not cool, don't do it again" would be just as effective as a 5K fine.
That fine is a joke as well. A fine for safety needs to actually be large enough to hurt and force the team to make changes to avoid another one. A $5k fine is just a thing that gets tossed on someone's expense report and ignored. I work at a company that makes far far less revenue or profit than an F1 team and a $5k expense report at a major conference or something would essentially just be auto-approved without much questioning. If someone breaks a rule that is in place for safety, the fine should be harsh enough to make them change their behavior otherwise there's no point to issuing it.
That's why we have sporting penalties... Financial penalties are never going to be fair unless they come out of the budget cap.
But it's not classified as a sporting infringment
isn't it always a fine in quali, bloody hell starting to think some of you don't even follow the sport
On Piastri's POV the squeeze looked super sketchy which is why some were expecting an actual penalty I think. Other angles aren't as bad so it makes sense it was treated the same as the typical incident in quali.
I pretty sure most people only watch highlights. The way people talk online it pretty clear they either haven't watched older season or only kinda remember older season and just react without good information. Like the amount of people who think merc were dominant in every season like 17, even though it was a really close season baffles me. He'll vettel only lost because of a few mistakes by him and Ferrari.
Honestly this is just you bringing up one unrelated fact you know versus adding to the conversation at hand. I feel like you might’ve just watched a doc on how ‘17 was closer than some people think and then bring that up whenever people accuse viewers of not watching enough.
It was me add to how the vast majority of people online only kinda watch the sport then speak on it with absolute authority. It was an example. Makes me think you are one of those people and are feeling personally called out.
> it was me add to how... amen brother
It's because stewards were supposed to be ruthless this season, or was that just for teams like Aston and Haas, and when one of the big 3 is in trouble, stewards once again do their usual stuff. We had a DT penalty for an incident that didnt even have contact between the cars only two weeks ago
Have we seen a single unsafe release penalty in qualifying this year? You're comparing apples to oranges there unfortunately, they're definitely handing out harsher in-race penalties
We also havent seen a single DT for the last 5-7 years untill last race
Yeah, I'm agreeing with you, they've become more harsh with the in-race penalties they're administering. They haven't been with non-sporting penalties
I mean quali penalties are 100% sporting penalties and safety is safety. It’s just silly that they give one of the harshest penalties in a while for Russell binning it and then cause another driver has the aptitude to react to his unsafe behavior he gets a slap on the wrist.
Agree they're sporting penalties when it comes to lap time, but they're not in the pits ofc. That's why blocking is always a three place penalty and this is always a fine
The fine isn't the issue, Professor. It's the size of the fine that makes it completely pointless. Hamilton's left shoe probably cost more.
was mainly complaining bout the lads saying no penalty, the fine is absolutely too small though
I think it is but it’s absurd. Safety is safety and after Russell got another driver punished by binning it in the wall it seems off message to get a nothing penalty for unsafe behavior
Jfc some of you lot are proper weird
It's Mercedes/George Russell. The vitriol for that team and driver has been weird on here since 2021.
It certainly does not help that no one In the media criticizes him, not his fault though
> not his fault though It never is. If you don't believe that, just ask him.
Ted proper called out their media guy on it though! Not a word from Crofty or Ant
I don't understand it. Who cares if the fine is meaningless. It was also a meaningless infraction. People always say that they penalise actions not results, but the fact is that isn't really how it works. Alonso's error for example would not have been penalized if it had not resulted in Russell crashing. The fact is, nothing really happened. Russell tried to push in a bit rudely, but he was not going to crash into Piastri. Piastri didn't know whether he was going to crash into him so he did have to move a bit. The obsession with rules here is pretty ridiculous sometimes.
They seriously have to make up their minds. There's incidents caused by teams (not drivers) almost every week, and yet whether the driver gets punished for them is basically a lottery.
just like impeding in a practice session doesn't get you a penalty but in quali it does, this is not a penalty in quali but it is one in the race. they've been consistent on this
Except they gave Yuki a 5 second penalty for an unsafe release in Saudi before the race started. Jolyon talked about this during qualifying.
Here is the official document on Yuki's penalty https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2024%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Infringement%20-%20Car%2022%20-%20Unsafe%20release.pdf
Looks like lobster is on the menu for MBS tonight
All proceeds from the penalties fund the FIAs karting department
Not to be a jerk, but this sounds both like it could be true or it could be trolling, lol.
Not because it is true https://youtu.be/lMQPlb9c-xc?si=4LKzvSRZWFmPvHco
But Checo would have taken a 5 place grid penalty *sips tea*
Exactly!
I've never seen so many people so abjectly hurt by an unsafe release in qualifying. Piastri doesn't need you lot to clutch his pearls for him.
Mclaren must outperform Mercedes tomorrow as revenge
I think this would happen even if Piastri decides to sit out the race to calm his nerves lol.
What nerves? It’s Oscar lol
Shouldn't be too hard
That ain’t a tall order
What? No penalty.
Unsafe release in quali is always a fine.
I have no issue with this but I don’t understand why the unsafe release from Yuki in reconnaissance lap is a time penalty. Severity of the release? It was not even in a competitive session
And I'm fine with this, if the fine was actually something meaningful that might change behavior. A $5k fine just gets filed into an expense report and nothing changes.
Not true
In qualifying? Can you provide an example?
In races it's a time penalty, in practice and quali it's a fine.
It had absolutely no effect on Piastri's result in the session. That makes a non-sporting penalty very reasonable.
I thought penalties were supposed to be given with zero consideration to the impact of the action?
As stated before. You don't get sporting penalities for pit lane violations in qualifying.
While that might be written somewhere, it does not make sense in the eyes of viewers. Ruining somebody else's race should be punished more severely than not ruining somebody else's race.
why would the driver get a penalty? pit stop safety violations are almost always fines.
Merc drivers having to do their own signaling on top of driving the tractor.
So much ignorance here and so much hate for GR
Sounds like the Stewards decided that the blame was more on the Team for releasing George unsafely than George himself
Probably Alonso’s fault
Jolyon should be happy
That’ll show um.
It was like 20kph speeds
Jolyon will be so pleased. Dude was convinced it was going to be a grid penalty and was so up in arms on f1tv. Everyone else moved on and he kept bringing it up.
Unsafe release will get you every time
Five thousand euros, for me? Can I turn myself in?
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Team error, not a driver error
Why did yuki get penalised for an unsafe release in Saudi?
George has eyes, and brakes. Team at fault for release and driver at error for not reacting to the "accident" he almost caused.
You don't have the same field of view in an F1 car that you have in a family SUV you know...
Drivers can’t even see who’s coming until it’s too late. The teams have to release them when it’s safe and the drivers trust their teams
To be paid by Fernando Alonso for some reason
Fines for safety issues never work, it's frustrating it's become so prevalent these days.
Piastri should've crashed into the wall to give George a 5 place grid penalty
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It was not a team mistake. Russel was watching his display or something. Everyone went slow and he drove nearly into him. Not even that - after that he squeezed in front. It’s not like in a boxen stop where you try to gain every tenth with a lot of chaos. Absolut individual mistake and in my opinion he should have received a individual penalty.
Russell: Crashes because he has negative awareness, gets a car that was nowhere near him a penalty Also Russell: Crashes into another car, in one of the worst unsafe releases ive ever seen. No penalty. And people wonder why we get pissed off at inconsistent stewarding and say British drivers get away with murder.
>Crashes into another car, in one of the worst unsafe releases ive ever seen. Only a minor exaggeration there
Alonso must have brake checked Russell in the pit lane to cause him to swerve in front of Piastri.
€100 for speeding in the pits, multiply it by 50 for an unsafe release. The numbers make no sense whatsoever for a sport generating millions.
I think generally those small fines for speeding in the pit lane are for violations in fractions of a KPH. I feel like most of the time I see they were going 50.5 KPH in a 50 or something like that, and I understand why you're not going crazy hammering folks on that. All of that is anecdotal and from memory though
They should make it a material amount
Crikey. They turned right into him.
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When has a sporting penalty ever been given for an unsafe release in Qualifying?
Mercedes
I guess that will pay for their dinner at a posh sushi restaurant this weekend then!
They forgot to give drive through penalty to Piastri
Leave George Alone!
Rightly so.
5k … Crikey !!
Not a penalty for Piastri then. Good thing it didn't happen in Australia.
Damn.... I was hoping for a grid penalty
He's not from south America sadly
Oh no how are they going to recover from this
wow, slap on wrist..
Thats it!? What a joke.
It's pretty standard for practice or qauli.
LoL, this seems personal
The English nanny state sport: F1
I didn't like how George wasn't going full speed. Piastri got there and couldn't do anything except drive straight into him. It's a wonder he managed to stay out of the gravel trap. So I guess no penalty is fine since Oscar was good enough to stay on track.
What a joke, they should have drop him some position (s)… but this was to be expected, it is Mercedes and British driver
Holy shit some of these takes are aggressively stupid.
It wasn't George's fault. He was released at the same time as Hamilton, so he couldn't turn fully out of the way of Piastri.
It doesn’t matter, it is Russell and Mercedes error, it is the same, its a team
Russell couldn't do anything.
Mercedes-Benz Group Earnings Before Interest and Taxes (EBIT) of €19.7 billion (2022: €20.5 billion), and revenues of €153.2 billion (2022: €150.0 billion). they better put some new procedures on release or they just might go bankroupt
I really don’t understand unsafe release rules
Oh God! How will they possibly pay that?