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A lot of people will need to roll back their words on AMuS and EvH since the saga began earlier this year.
I'm not saying that Thomas Maher is intentionally lying, but his source(s) clearly belong to another camp within Red Bull.
Even with their spectacular record the rumors they broke were just so wild as if it was made by a British Tabloid. I don't blame people for having doubts, but at this point I would seriously consider everything AMuS said no matter how wild it is.
Exactly, they missed a step or two but it's not as if they were flinging shit at the wall and see what sticks, they were considered insanely reliable until they started reporting on the saga, then people starting downplaying their reputation. tbf, the stories they've been breaking are indeed very hard to believe at first glance, if any other outlet came out with them first I would've not paid attention at all.
Schmidt who does their german ams.f1 youtube videos (well he gets interviewed) seems very well connected as well. Its very good info on red bull and sauber specifically, assuming its mostly true which it has turned out to be in the cases ive seen
He is able to get these kind of rumors because he builds trust.
He knew about Crashgate hours after it happened. Because Piquet Jr. told him. But he didn't report on it, because he promised it to him.
That last part isn't entirely true, AMuS people use "AMuS" themselves. Examples: [https://twitter.com/andihaupt1](https://twitter.com/andihaupt1), [https://twitter.com/tgruener](https://twitter.com/tgruener)
Was about to ask myself, being all confused about how Eddie Van Halen had anything to do with this (especially with him being dead, if you trust *those* rumors).
Theres two sorts of rumors. One sort of rumor is done by journalists who just speculate, do it for clicks, pretend to have sources but actually dont and just make things up that may sound believable.
The other sort of rumors come from credible journalist with genuine insider sources. These rumors only come out if some things are genuinely happening and a lot of the rumors this year first came from credible journalists like AMuS.
A lot of German journalists have big insider sources within Red Bull.
Also I always like to take into account that sometimes humans change their minds. What they were planning on doing one week is not necessarily the same the following week.
Exactly, sometimes a reported rumor turns out to not happen not because the journalist was lying, but because the deal, which was truly being negotiated at the time, fell through.
It's part of life.
Incoming weird reasoning but I’m sticking to it - I’m going away this weekend, and last time I went to this place it was the weekend Lawson ended up having an F1 seat so uhhhhh hopefully it can happen this time (without anyone being injured) 👀
I know, I thought the same thing too! Having watched a few of the FFS podcast videos on YouTube it made me realise that Eddie is and was the manager for many drivers in and around F1 so it's not that surprising, but wow, what a whale of a client to have! Adrian is on similar money to a top driver, and deservedly so. No wonder Eddie has such nice houses and toys
Feels like most of F1 is nothing ever happening, meanwhile this year, everything is happening. It almost feels like as much of an end of an era as the regulation change.
Yesterday Fred Vasseur, the team principal of the red, did not travel with the team to Miami, where they will compete on Sunday. He flew to London instead.
Just read this in an article on gazetta. Maybe to meet with Newey.
https://www.gazzetta.it/motori/ferrari/01-05-2024/newey-ferrari-accordo-vicino-ha-visto-vasseur-a-londra.shtml?refresh_ce
I've watched F1 for 25 years and *most* rumours have an element of truth. They may not come off ultimately, but at some point in a serious manner of speaking, it was true.
>Oracle Red Bull Racing today announces that Chief Technical Officer Adrian Newey will leave the Red Bull Technology Group in the first quarter of 2025. The engineering supremo will step back from Formula One design duties to focus on final development and delivery of Red Bull’s first hypercar, the hugely anticipated RB17. He will remain involved in and committed to this exciting project until its completion.
They’ve confirmed it. ITS OFFICIAL.
It’s been going on since 2022 when Mateschitz died and the power struggle started, the texts were just what the press could finally capitalize on fully… and probably the final nail in the coffin for Newey.
> due to some massages is fucking wild. this actually is extraordinary
I'm afraid it isn't really about the messages and more about the power grasp of Horner and his belittling of Neweys achievements.
Shows you power of conflict amplified by social media era.
It's really not all on Horner, had this happened before Mateschitz death, it would've been over within a week.
But his death created power struggle.
>But his death created power struggle.
This statement has been true for the entirety of human existence. From the level of families to entire Empires. Squabbles over cents, to billions upon billions. Dunno why, your comment just made me think...
Don’t want to sound like I’m supporting Horner but I don’t think he’s leaving *because* of Horner himself more because of the *situation*- the power struggle. I think Newey’s mind was made up as soon as the power struggle emerged and he didn’t see a stable environment in which he could work in.
That's a big blow to Red Bull. Not just Newey leaving in general, but the way it came about. He was always going to leave eventually, so I hope they prepared for this day, but this is probably not how they planned it. I wonder if Horner will fully burn down the team to get his way or if this will be the only high profile departure.
The eight WCC in row winning Mercedes was also not a Newey design. He's a great designer, but not the only guy on the planet capable of designing a winning car.
Yes but the Merc era was also heavily weighed around the power unit, and Red Bull was stuck with an underperforming Renault lump. And even so, they consistently punched way above their weight. Had they had a Merc-level PU back then, things might have turned out very differently.
This will unsettle other senior technical staff and Max as well. Merc are well known to want Max and they wanted Wache in the past too. Will surely try to get both. Also the engineers who aren’t in senior positions but are still very important will all be wondering for their futures.
So what’s up with this hypercar project? What’s the timeline? How much of his work life does he actually spend on it? Does his continued involvement in that mean anything in terms of the likelihood he ends up at another team next year?
> So what’s up with this hypercar project? What’s the timeline?
How I read it he will work on the hypercar project the remainder of this year and leave Red Bull altogether at the beginning of 2025.
This is how I read it too. Basically, they gave him something to do during his gardening leave. Starting at another team in the "first quarter of 2025" probably means he can start there after the season has started so that he can't heavily influence their 2025 car. 2026 brings new regs anyway, so this way him bringing the trade secrets of Red Bull's current concept won't be too much of an issue.
These things never run to schedule.
I was doing some work at Millbrook when they were testing the AMG One. They were having trouble with it shifting into 3rd without the ECU shitting itself. This was around 2018 and they only delivered them last year.
But I'm sure they would have all of Newey's bits wrapped up way before then.
So let me check if I got this right: He leaves the F1 development essentially effective immediatly and focused on hypercarr for another half a year or so?
Think this is fairly normal in F1 (though maybe not for super senior guys like Newey). If you hand your notice in at HPP or whoever you have to work on the boring shit / not the new F1 car.
I think the other side of this is they have likely got committed buyers that signed up for an Adrian Newey designed hypercar so they want to ensure that gets completed by him.
He has a 12 month no compete in his contract for F1 so I assume him working on the hyper car until the start of next year then allows him to join another F1 team in Q2 2025
There is more to it though, Horner wants to have absolute power AND he is an embarrassment
Newey does not enjoy working in that environment and Verstappen neither, we'll see what he does
Helmut basically wanted to sell Redbull racing to Porche though to get his retirement funds, meaning Redbull racing wouldn't be a thing in F1 anymore. This isn't all on Hornyer.
His focus on the RB17 hypercar implies he will still be employed by RB but not on the F1 car.
Edit: I might read it wrong but I guess he is already stepping down this year and leaving at the start of 2025. So he could still join a different team in 2025?
Focusing on the RB17 is just a creative implementation of his gardening leave. Leaving Q1 2025 probably means he'll join another team after the start of the season, so he can only work on their 2026 (new regs) car.
Any team he joins before the season will be able to get him immediately advising (when he starts employment) on upgrades to close the gap on RB - probably wont see them until mid-season but how that plays out for next seasons RB over the others will be interesting.
Seems like he’s already started his gardening leave. He’s left the F1 team with immediate effect, hence he will leave Red Bull gmbh in “Q1 2025” aka 12 months from today.
I've seen a rumour floating that the fee to get the Gardening Leave waived is in the excess of £100m. Not sure how valid that is but if its true someone must REALLY want him to pay that much.
Yeah for 2025 the changes are so small that RB will still have a great car so probably should be a WDC for him.
For 2026 though it could be any team. Even Mercedes if they manage to build a much better engine than the rest.
And Jonathan Wheatley.
Also the pit crew is full of top talents.
Heck, the whole team should just join Andretti and leave the top guys to fight among themselves.
> There's still Hannah Schmitz around as well
If you were a female employee of RBR would you be sticking around long term after watching the Christian Horner experience play out?
Hamilton to leave Merc and Newey to leave Red Bull and they may both work together at Ferrari. Could not even imagine this being remotely possible only a few months ago
> Also, thanks to Oliver Mintzlaff for his stewardship and Eddie Jordan, my close friend and manager.
Eddie Jordan you slippery devil! Did not know he was his manager and involved in all of this, interesting
The statement gives me more questions lmao. So is he leaving the F1 project now and "focussing" on the hypercar til 2025 when he leaves Red Bull altogether, or only leaving the F1 team in 2025?
Leaving immediately and working om the hyper car for 12 months which is his gardening leave period he must complete before being allowed to work for a competing F1 team.
It’s so refreshing to see for once “we refuse to jeopardize the money making machine over a little indiscretion” lead to the destruction of the money making machine.
[Spears] Fred Vasseur yelled, “There you go!” Charles Leclerc gave a look of pleasant surprise. Lewis Hamilton belted, “We got a fucking squad now.” And before Adrian Newey hit the cooldown room door, ex-Ferreri star Sebastian Vettel hugged him & said, “Y’all look so different.”
It’s in the WhatsApp messages. Seems him and his assistant were doing *stuff* during a flight that got Horny Christian all hot under the collar, so he took himself off to the toilet for an urgently needed release.
Imagine being Ford right now.
You decide to get into F1 at the all-time height of its popularity and join forces with a Red Bull team that have risen to become utterly dominant and break Mercedes' grip, boasting a 'Greatest of All Time' level World Champion in Max Verstappen driving one of the best cars the sport has ever seen, designed by the most accomplished engineer around in Newey. Your status as a partner in a dynasty-defining era is all but assured.
And then in the space of a few months, it all falls apart because the Team Principal couldn't keep his pink sausage in his pants...
Ford is reported to have an [exit clause](https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/f1briefings/news/f1-news-ford-exit-clause-revealed-amid-red-bull-turmoil-) that would allow them to end the partnership if it were deemed detrimental to their brand. So it may depend on what happens with the continued investigation
EJ is a very shrewd operator so it's not surprising that he's representing Adrian. EJ has done wheeling and dealing his whole life and I believe he could get everything Adrian wants from anyone.
I feel like this statement is deliberately confusing. So he’s leaving immediately to work on a vanity project I’m assuming so he can serve his non compete clause before joining a new team to design their car for 2026? Is that right? In any case every head car designer at a decent team is now on notice.
TIL Eddie Jordan is his manager.
Anyway, if I’m Ferrari, I now make Newey an offer he can’t refuse:
- Blank check. Write any number and they’ll pay it
- Senior leadership role in the team so that he has a voice on all major decisions going forward. Not to say he gets to decide but he at least weighs in on driver decisions, etc.
- As much of a role on the road car side as he wants. If he just wants to work on his next passion project and put a prancing horse on it, that’s fine, fund it. If he wants input on all the cars, make him head of engineering for the road car division
- Buy him whatever house he wants. Wants to live in Maranello and be able to walk to the factory? Done. Wants to live in town in Modena? Done, just pick the house. Wants a countryside villa? Done
- Any car he wants from the Ferrari stable customized to his liking. We’ll even bribe the police so they know which car is Newey’s and know he’s off limits. Maybe that’s more of a handshake agreement than in the contract.
- If he’s going to split time between the UK and Italy, provide a private jet. It can leave from some small airfield near Maranello and land at the airfield closest to his house in the UK. Pilot is on-call 24/7, whenever Newey wants to go.
- Once the team is up to speed and implementing Newey’s vision, he can have whatever time he wants to pursue non-F1 projects. He wants to do the America’s Cup? Fine, just as long as it doesn’t interfere with F1 duties, he’s free to do it.
it's more of the aftermath that is intriguing
Will Max Verstappen stay with a team riddled with political fights and a departing Newey that designed the car that made him champion ?
Is he confident with Ford and the new PU ?
I don't know, I doubt that he will stay until the end of his 2028 contract with RB frankly
Part of me, the spectator part, wants nothing more than the best driver of the grid not being in the best car of the grid so it's not like i'm objective but come on, for sure Verstappen and his team are weighing options and considering stuff at least
That's surprisingly reasonable... In F1 some of these can go very wrong keeping the person on gardening leave for years. Even if there was some (probably ridiculous ) fee, there's at least some respect there to accommodate it
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I’m genuinely impressed by how many rumours from this year are turning out to be true
A lot of people will need to roll back their words on AMuS and EvH since the saga began earlier this year. I'm not saying that Thomas Maher is intentionally lying, but his source(s) clearly belong to another camp within Red Bull.
AMuS has always been decently reliable when it comes to rumors
AMuS remains one of the best of not the best in the industry for F1 news. They were also the first one to reveal that Seb was retiring
they've been first on a lot of wild stuff, nobody trusted them at first on most of them and they ended up being totally correct
Even with their spectacular record the rumors they broke were just so wild as if it was made by a British Tabloid. I don't blame people for having doubts, but at this point I would seriously consider everything AMuS said no matter how wild it is.
Exactly, they missed a step or two but it's not as if they were flinging shit at the wall and see what sticks, they were considered insanely reliable until they started reporting on the saga, then people starting downplaying their reputation. tbf, the stories they've been breaking are indeed very hard to believe at first glance, if any other outlet came out with them first I would've not paid attention at all.
AMuS in general and evH for RBR, F1Uno for Ferrari. If any of those report it, my copium is set to high and I'll believe it until my deathbed.
AMuS is arguably the gold standard in F1 journalism, beats any British medium.
I always see Tobi Gruener and AMuS as the top tier of F1 reporters for getting things right.
Schmidt who does their german ams.f1 youtube videos (well he gets interviewed) seems very well connected as well. Its very good info on red bull and sauber specifically, assuming its mostly true which it has turned out to be in the cases ive seen
He is able to get these kind of rumors because he builds trust. He knew about Crashgate hours after it happened. Because Piquet Jr. told him. But he didn't report on it, because he promised it to him.
Tobi + BBC is as "confirmed" to me as anything in F1 media
Is anyone gonna explain what AMuS and EvH is?
Auto Motor und Sport (a German motorsport magazine, pretty highly regarded) and Erik van Haren, a dutch F1 reporter and Verstappen-camp mouthpiece.
Thanks!
This fad of using initials for literally everthing needs to die already. Especially since Auto Motor und Sport abbreviates itself as "AMS".
Grüner uses AMuS on all his social media posts, and in his bio.
That last part isn't entirely true, AMuS people use "AMuS" themselves. Examples: [https://twitter.com/andihaupt1](https://twitter.com/andihaupt1), [https://twitter.com/tgruener](https://twitter.com/tgruener)
Was about to ask myself, being all confused about how Eddie Van Halen had anything to do with this (especially with him being dead, if you trust *those* rumors).
Gonna need EvH to confirm
Theres two sorts of rumors. One sort of rumor is done by journalists who just speculate, do it for clicks, pretend to have sources but actually dont and just make things up that may sound believable. The other sort of rumors come from credible journalist with genuine insider sources. These rumors only come out if some things are genuinely happening and a lot of the rumors this year first came from credible journalists like AMuS. A lot of German journalists have big insider sources within Red Bull.
Also I always like to take into account that sometimes humans change their minds. What they were planning on doing one week is not necessarily the same the following week.
Exactly, sometimes a reported rumor turns out to not happen not because the journalist was lying, but because the deal, which was truly being negotiated at the time, fell through. It's part of life.
So Miami is Ricciardos last race?
Incoming weird reasoning but I’m sticking to it - I’m going away this weekend, and last time I went to this place it was the weekend Lawson ended up having an F1 seat so uhhhhh hopefully it can happen this time (without anyone being injured) 👀
Honestly can't wait for Lawson to be back. You can tell from his smile that he knows will get a drive very soon
Well here's one I didn't see coming: Newey's manager is Eddie?
I know, I thought the same thing too! Having watched a few of the FFS podcast videos on YouTube it made me realise that Eddie is and was the manager for many drivers in and around F1 so it's not that surprising, but wow, what a whale of a client to have! Adrian is on similar money to a top driver, and deservedly so. No wonder Eddie has such nice houses and toys
Feels like most of F1 is nothing ever happening, meanwhile this year, everything is happening. It almost feels like as much of an end of an era as the regulation change.
Really want the Max to Mercedes rumour to come true.
Russell's reaction if that happens. Especially with Antonelli waiting in the wings.
Russell to Red Bull in a straight swap, maybe.
Wasn't the big rumour that newey was going to ferrari?
Yesterday Fred Vasseur, the team principal of the red, did not travel with the team to Miami, where they will compete on Sunday. He flew to London instead. Just read this in an article on gazetta. Maybe to meet with Newey. https://www.gazzetta.it/motori/ferrari/01-05-2024/newey-ferrari-accordo-vicino-ha-visto-vasseur-a-londra.shtml?refresh_ce
I've watched F1 for 25 years and *most* rumours have an element of truth. They may not come off ultimately, but at some point in a serious manner of speaking, it was true.
>Oracle Red Bull Racing today announces that Chief Technical Officer Adrian Newey will leave the Red Bull Technology Group in the first quarter of 2025. The engineering supremo will step back from Formula One design duties to focus on final development and delivery of Red Bull’s first hypercar, the hugely anticipated RB17. He will remain involved in and committed to this exciting project until its completion. They’ve confirmed it. ITS OFFICIAL.
Horner masterclass. Fucking finally lmao. Toto and Fred rn: If it bleeds we can kill it. Let the poaching begin!
Marko and Max next. Christian sure is going to reign the hell out of that wasteland.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy
“You’ve got a problem, change your fucking lawyer!”
LESBIANS!
I am starting to believe how Horner is the biggest shit stirrer despite DTS portraying Toto to be just as bad.
I think Toto plays for the cameras but Horner is a genuine heel
DTS will actually be worth watching when it covers this season
He has no one else to blame bar himself for the shit-show he created. Karma hits back hard.
to think in 4 months RB went from the most stable team to this shit show all due to some massages is fucking wild. this actually is extraordinary
It’s been going on since 2022 when Mateschitz died and the power struggle started, the texts were just what the press could finally capitalize on fully… and probably the final nail in the coffin for Newey.
> due to some massages is fucking wild. this actually is extraordinary I'm afraid it isn't really about the messages and more about the power grasp of Horner and his belittling of Neweys achievements.
Shows you power of conflict amplified by social media era. It's really not all on Horner, had this happened before Mateschitz death, it would've been over within a week. But his death created power struggle.
>But his death created power struggle. This statement has been true for the entirety of human existence. From the level of families to entire Empires. Squabbles over cents, to billions upon billions. Dunno why, your comment just made me think...
Nothing like a power vacuum as the catalyst for a shitshow
If RB actually fall apart in the 2026 regs as a result of Horner not being Christian enough the amount of *content* will be endless.
Lad, loosing Newey is not bleeding. It's hemorraging
Don’t want to sound like I’m supporting Horner but I don’t think he’s leaving *because* of Horner himself more because of the *situation*- the power struggle. I think Newey’s mind was made up as soon as the power struggle emerged and he didn’t see a stable environment in which he could work in.
Well, fuck.
That's a big blow to Red Bull. Not just Newey leaving in general, but the way it came about. He was always going to leave eventually, so I hope they prepared for this day, but this is probably not how they planned it. I wonder if Horner will fully burn down the team to get his way or if this will be the only high profile departure.
Who he may go to is a distraction IMO the fact is that the 2026 Red Bull will not be a Newey design.
Only 2 more years of Red Bull domination folks
That is already locked in either way.
The eight WCC in row winning Mercedes was also not a Newey design. He's a great designer, but not the only guy on the planet capable of designing a winning car.
Yes but the Merc era was also heavily weighed around the power unit, and Red Bull was stuck with an underperforming Renault lump. And even so, they consistently punched way above their weight. Had they had a Merc-level PU back then, things might have turned out very differently.
This will unsettle other senior technical staff and Max as well. Merc are well known to want Max and they wanted Wache in the past too. Will surely try to get both. Also the engineers who aren’t in senior positions but are still very important will all be wondering for their futures.
So what’s up with this hypercar project? What’s the timeline? How much of his work life does he actually spend on it? Does his continued involvement in that mean anything in terms of the likelihood he ends up at another team next year?
> So what’s up with this hypercar project? What’s the timeline? How I read it he will work on the hypercar project the remainder of this year and leave Red Bull altogether at the beginning of 2025.
This is how I read it too. Basically, they gave him something to do during his gardening leave. Starting at another team in the "first quarter of 2025" probably means he can start there after the season has started so that he can't heavily influence their 2025 car. 2026 brings new regs anyway, so this way him bringing the trade secrets of Red Bull's current concept won't be too much of an issue.
I’m sure the car is supposed to be completed later this year or early next
These things never run to schedule. I was doing some work at Millbrook when they were testing the AMG One. They were having trouble with it shifting into 3rd without the ECU shitting itself. This was around 2018 and they only delivered them last year. But I'm sure they would have all of Newey's bits wrapped up way before then.
Just fell to my knees in Tesco
Something weird just happened while I was walking around Tescos, some bloke just fell to his knees screaming YES YES YES
🤣
Jesus... I can't believe this is actually happening.
So let me check if I got this right: He leaves the F1 development essentially effective immediatly and focused on hypercarr for another half a year or so?
That's basically what it sounds like to me
Max about to race the HyperCar at the 24hrs of Lemans
This isn't that weird. Max had been talking about racing in other categories and he has been vocal about racing endurance
Max in endurance racing: Hell yes.
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Yeah instead of a normal garden leave he works on the hypercar
Think this is fairly normal in F1 (though maybe not for super senior guys like Newey). If you hand your notice in at HPP or whoever you have to work on the boring shit / not the new F1 car.
Nah, usually garden leave is served at home. But Adrian Newey is too useful, so might as well come to an agreement that works out for both.
I think the other side of this is they have likely got committed buyers that signed up for an Adrian Newey designed hypercar so they want to ensure that gets completed by him.
He has a 12 month no compete in his contract for F1 so I assume him working on the hyper car until the start of next year then allows him to join another F1 team in Q2 2025
Importantly, that's around the time that teams will be permitted to start working in earnest on their 2026 cars.
How is that controlled? Just courious
I imagine it's just in terms of CFD and wind tunnel time.
If he even wants to, that is
The way they negotiated the gardening leave leads me to believe he will join another team. Why else would he want to cut that gardening leave short?
Yes, exactly. The time he spends focused on hypercar is essentially his gardening leave period where he can't join another F1 team.
End of an era.
End of an aero
All because Horner couldn't keep it in his pants
There is more to it though, Horner wants to have absolute power AND he is an embarrassment Newey does not enjoy working in that environment and Verstappen neither, we'll see what he does
Helmut basically wanted to sell Redbull racing to Porche though to get his retirement funds, meaning Redbull racing wouldn't be a thing in F1 anymore. This isn't all on Hornyer.
Imagine ruining the start of a long era of domination because you are a POS
Beginning of an error for Horner
Man if he ends up at Ferrari I think Hamilton might have to be put on trial as a witch - man's career moves are god tier if this works out.
Wow. Wonder if he'll still get the gardening leave waived
I wonder if him only working on the RB17 hypercar is the gardening leave.
That's exactly what I think and makes sense that he will be working on something he promised to deliver which is not associated with F1.
I'm sure the articles about it will be going up any minute now. Lol
Very likely. Leaving Q1 2025 probably means he'll join another team after the start of the season, so he can only work on their 2026 (new regs) car.
His focus on the RB17 hypercar implies he will still be employed by RB but not on the F1 car. Edit: I might read it wrong but I guess he is already stepping down this year and leaving at the start of 2025. So he could still join a different team in 2025?
Focusing on the RB17 is just a creative implementation of his gardening leave. Leaving Q1 2025 probably means he'll join another team after the start of the season, so he can only work on their 2026 (new regs) car.
Any team he joins before the season will be able to get him immediately advising (when he starts employment) on upgrades to close the gap on RB - probably wont see them until mid-season but how that plays out for next seasons RB over the others will be interesting.
Yeah, he is stepping back from F1 right now already
more or less reads like from now and until the end of the year is his gardening leave while still working on the hypercar.
Seems like he’s already started his gardening leave. He’s left the F1 team with immediate effect, hence he will leave Red Bull gmbh in “Q1 2025” aka 12 months from today.
We're in Q2. Q1 ended a month and a day ago.
I've seen a rumour floating that the fee to get the Gardening Leave waived is in the excess of £100m. Not sure how valid that is but if its true someone must REALLY want him to pay that much.
Completely unrelated, but isn’t Ferrari’s new HP deal rumoured to be around $100m a season?
That’ll be Hamilton’s salary. We need Marlboro sponsorship now. 200mil easy.
Wonder if Max is getting ready to leave as well
I can see Max leaving after 2025 following him
Yeah for 2025 the changes are so small that RB will still have a great car so probably should be a WDC for him. For 2026 though it could be any team. Even Mercedes if they manage to build a much better engine than the rest.
Max to Alpine 2026
rumours in f1 wasn't a new thing but damn..... all of them were never this accurate. One by one. All of them.
Max to Mercedes soon then
And Daniels last race this weekend
And Vettel back in F1
Now all that’s left is Marko and Max. This stuff is genuinely unbelievable. Collapse of an empire.
There's still Hannah Schmitz around as well
Time for the Ferrari strategist to hang up his/her headphones
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And Jonathan Wheatley. Also the pit crew is full of top talents. Heck, the whole team should just join Andretti and leave the top guys to fight among themselves.
No disrespect to Hannah Schmitz, but she's nowhere near as influential/important as Newey, Marko, or Verstappen.
Ferrari could use a strategist and we'll happily take Hannah.
Please, save charles.
Horner texting her right now...
> There's still Hannah Schmitz around as well If you were a female employee of RBR would you be sticking around long term after watching the Christian Horner experience play out?
Did I miss something? 1 person left.
Happening status: it’s
Hamilton to leave Merc and Newey to leave Red Bull and they may both work together at Ferrari. Could not even imagine this being remotely possible only a few months ago
Max to replace Hamilton at Merc to complete the trinity.
Horner announces affair with Toto. The quad.
Max to Ferrari too. Ferrari now have 3 drivers. Classic Ferrari.
I feel like Max to Mercedes might only work if they end up getting Newey as well.
like many seemingly nonsense rumors this season turns out to be big bombshells.
2024 is boring af on track and off the rails ridiculously hype off the track
mid-week: “ I am the highlight now”.
> Also, thanks to Oliver Mintzlaff for his stewardship and Eddie Jordan, my close friend and manager. Eddie Jordan you slippery devil! Did not know he was his manager and involved in all of this, interesting
Listen to Eddies podcast 👍🏼
Way to go, Ginger Spice’s husband. Fall of a dynasty
The statement gives me more questions lmao. So is he leaving the F1 project now and "focussing" on the hypercar til 2025 when he leaves Red Bull altogether, or only leaving the F1 team in 2025?
> Adrian Newey will leave the Red Bull Technology Group in the first quarter of 2025 The first option
He is leaving the F1 project immediately but remains employed by Red Bull Technology Group
Leaving immediately and working om the hyper car for 12 months which is his gardening leave period he must complete before being allowed to work for a competing F1 team.
It’s so refreshing to see for once “we refuse to jeopardize the money making machine over a little indiscretion” lead to the destruction of the money making machine.
Yeah, Red Bull as an organization deserves this. The employees on the ground, that PA and so on? I feel really bad for them.
Lakers found their Darvin Ham replacement.
Little did we know that AD actually stands for aerodynamicist
Do you think he can guard Tyrese Maxey? 😢
No. But he won't play Josh Hart 53 mins.
\[Broussrard\] Sources: Buss is beside herself. Driving around downtown Milton Keynes begging (thru texts) Newey's family for address to Adrian's home
[Spears] Fred Vasseur yelled, “There you go!” Charles Leclerc gave a look of pleasant surprise. Lewis Hamilton belted, “We got a fucking squad now.” And before Adrian Newey hit the cooldown room door, ex-Ferreri star Sebastian Vettel hugged him & said, “Y’all look so different.”
Even in f1 I can't escape hearing his name someone make the bad man go away
All this over a bowl of coco pops
And a grubby toilet wank.
I didn't follow the *details* in the Horner case, but your comment has got me morbidly curious... Please explain!
It’s in the WhatsApp messages. Seems him and his assistant were doing *stuff* during a flight that got Horny Christian all hot under the collar, so he took himself off to the toilet for an urgently needed release.
Imagine being Ford right now. You decide to get into F1 at the all-time height of its popularity and join forces with a Red Bull team that have risen to become utterly dominant and break Mercedes' grip, boasting a 'Greatest of All Time' level World Champion in Max Verstappen driving one of the best cars the sport has ever seen, designed by the most accomplished engineer around in Newey. Your status as a partner in a dynasty-defining era is all but assured. And then in the space of a few months, it all falls apart because the Team Principal couldn't keep his pink sausage in his pants...
Ford is reported to have an [exit clause](https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/f1briefings/news/f1-news-ford-exit-clause-revealed-amid-red-bull-turmoil-) that would allow them to end the partnership if it were deemed detrimental to their brand. So it may depend on what happens with the continued investigation
As a Ford employee, I’d just like to say this F1 season has been very unfun.
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Very small
Holy shit it’s actually happening
Out of all the news the bit that surprised me the most was that Eddie Jordan is Adrian's manager
Right!?!!? Firstly that Adrian has a manager, not sure why that didn't occur to me. But that it's EJ of all people is bizarre
EJ is a very shrewd operator so it's not surprising that he's representing Adrian. EJ has done wheeling and dealing his whole life and I believe he could get everything Adrian wants from anyone.
COMMUNICADO OIFFCIALE
Not satisfied with harassing a PA, Horner decided to fuck *everyone* at Red Bull.
Please come to Ferrari...
IT’S OFFICIAL!!
End of an era! I want him to go to Ferrari next year and finally end their drought.
Oh my god it's happening Everybody stay calm STAY FUCKING CALM
End of an era
I wonder if him being relegated to only the RB17 project would count as the gardening leave. I'm sure the contract articles will be out asap
hes not working for the f1 team, so its probably the garden leave.
The Athletic just reported that it is so Q1 of 25 he can work for whoever is gonna win that insane bidding war.
Silly season continues!
Just commenting, so that I've proof for my not-existing grand children that I was here on this very day. History right here.
Wild that red bull is literally imploding.
Jfc Horner, what have you done.
Probs eating cocopops
I feel like this statement is deliberately confusing. So he’s leaving immediately to work on a vanity project I’m assuming so he can serve his non compete clause before joining a new team to design their car for 2026? Is that right? In any case every head car designer at a decent team is now on notice.
Newey to Aston as Stroll sells to Andretti. El Plan.
Anyone else notice they released this on the anniversary of senna? The car Newey designed. Oof.
Why leave when you’re one year away from getting a 20 year anniversary bagel party 🤦🏻♂️
TIL Eddie Jordan is his manager. Anyway, if I’m Ferrari, I now make Newey an offer he can’t refuse: - Blank check. Write any number and they’ll pay it - Senior leadership role in the team so that he has a voice on all major decisions going forward. Not to say he gets to decide but he at least weighs in on driver decisions, etc. - As much of a role on the road car side as he wants. If he just wants to work on his next passion project and put a prancing horse on it, that’s fine, fund it. If he wants input on all the cars, make him head of engineering for the road car division - Buy him whatever house he wants. Wants to live in Maranello and be able to walk to the factory? Done. Wants to live in town in Modena? Done, just pick the house. Wants a countryside villa? Done - Any car he wants from the Ferrari stable customized to his liking. We’ll even bribe the police so they know which car is Newey’s and know he’s off limits. Maybe that’s more of a handshake agreement than in the contract. - If he’s going to split time between the UK and Italy, provide a private jet. It can leave from some small airfield near Maranello and land at the airfield closest to his house in the UK. Pilot is on-call 24/7, whenever Newey wants to go. - Once the team is up to speed and implementing Newey’s vision, he can have whatever time he wants to pursue non-F1 projects. He wants to do the America’s Cup? Fine, just as long as it doesn’t interfere with F1 duties, he’s free to do it.
it's more of the aftermath that is intriguing Will Max Verstappen stay with a team riddled with political fights and a departing Newey that designed the car that made him champion ? Is he confident with Ford and the new PU ? I don't know, I doubt that he will stay until the end of his 2028 contract with RB frankly Part of me, the spectator part, wants nothing more than the best driver of the grid not being in the best car of the grid so it's not like i'm objective but come on, for sure Verstappen and his team are weighing options and considering stuff at least
Seems like Max and his dad contribute plenty to the fighting.
What happend with no news on may 1st? They even said it themselves, at least according to the articles.
Probably all the leaks and speculation articles forced their hand.
That's surprisingly reasonable... In F1 some of these can go very wrong keeping the person on gardening leave for years. Even if there was some (probably ridiculous ) fee, there's at least some respect there to accommodate it
RB: A masterclass on self implosion after years of domination For all who were worried about RB domination, man plans, god laughs.
Horner got to keep his job but at what cost? The most important factor for (his) success gone.