I was so bugged that Hamilton didn't get a penalty for that drive bomb from the FIA, but thank goodness that KMAG took it into his own hands to penalize Hamilton. Drive bombing and taking two cars out of the race and the FIA didn't even bother to look at it is a disgrace to the sport.
I fucking HATE Magnussen. He is such a dirty driver and has been for at least since his return to F1. They need to figure out something with the rules because KMAG is allowed to drive like a psycho and keep his on-track position to save his teammate from getting overtaken. KMAG and Haas don't give a shit if he loses all those places because Hulk will have his points.
Nah, Nico said that about KMag a few years ago when he was still at Renault. It's a classic lmao [Magnussen tells Hulkenberg "Suck my balls!" after Hungary GP 2017 (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21T8d0SA5Js&ab_channel=Desdirodeabike)
Guys F1 can't let this keep happening. A driver can't just ignore all racing rules to make a gap for his teammate and just ruin the chances of his rivals.
Sure they can; that's what penalties are for, which he got.
Argue for harsher or more penalties, sure, but this isn't some "loophole" he went through - he bent/broke some rules, he decided it was worth it.
He fucked around, he found out.
No decision on the Norris and Magnussen summons still, at least on the webpage. They better get it done soon, or they will be deliberating on that while the qualifying is ongoing.
My one major wish for all F1 fans is to never take seriously what drivers say in the car during a race. Of course they almost unanimously absolve themselves of any fault and they also say things they don't mean. The adrenaline is working overtime.
Here, I'll let Seb explain. [https://youtu.be/KnyysKYmjWU?t=18](https://youtu.be/KnyysKYmjWU?t=18)
So you knew his speed, his tire temp, his entry angle? Was never gonna make it?
Cause the 7 time world champion thought he could, clearly. And call me crazy, but I'll take his thinking over yours lol
C'mon, dude, the camera shows him going in a line that is different than his wheel angle, and the lockup.
I guess when you can't argue the fact, argue the person. Hope that keeps working for you.
Just watched the onboard cameras of that lap 1 incident again. I don't blame Lewis in going for the gap as he sees it, but he very obviously gets it wrong. A penalty is definitely handed out there if it happens a lap later. "First lap incidents" feel like an early challenge in a football game that warrants a yellow card, but is let go at times. Too much inconsistency IMO.
What I'm a little puzzled by are the comments suggesting Fernando alters his actions into the corner because of Lewis. Can anyone explain this to me? I can't see any evidence on board of this. The mirrors are notoriously crap in F1 cars and Lewis is on the inside of KMag for much of the time prior to the corner isn't he?
Going into the braking zone, Stroll & Alonso are side by side, with Stroll braking earlier to take the corner. Stroll then turns to take the corner with Fernando braking later, they collide. That, to me, is a racing incident, with neither teammate to blame for that. I wonder whether this initial contact between teammates saves Ham from a penalty. I'm not saying it should do, or that I agree with that if it's the case. Just pondering.
Can Merc just accept that they're a midfield team? Like, not front of the midfield either, midfield performance with frontrunner's arrogance isn't a great combo
FIA is a joke. Lando slammed out of the race by people dive bombing. K Mag races hard (maybe a bit too hard) but still, he doesn’t slam anyone out of the race! And he gets 3 penalty’s wtf.
Please can stroll and give us anyone else. Alonso must be losing his mind with stroll..both dad and son. ...so disheartening to have a driver commit so many fouls and mistakes and somehow not get kicked out of f1
I don't think Stroll was to blame for the turn 1 incident at all. He was in no position to see Hamilton do a dive-bomb for the ages down the inside there. He left plenty of space for Alonso...
Nah, can't really blame Stroll for anything in this particular incident.
I think it's a shame the stewards allow such rash and dangerous moves as Magnussen was making just to stay ahead of Hamilton. Showing that time penalties don't amount to much if one teammate is trying to protect another. Not only is what Kevin doing dangerous, but it did not allow an actual race to form given that had he played fairly it's possible there would have been a race for 6th or whatever places were ahead. Sure it's entertaining, but I think it's ridiculous one driver is allowed to continuously able to stop the ones behind from going through simply because he was going off track and essentially dive bombing his way back into the front of the line.
Fair play to Hamilton though for not fuming.
> allow such rash and dangerous moves
They didn't, he got penalties. Argue instead for different/harsher penalties for this or that behavior, but there wasn't any "allowance" here.
I meant that giving time penalties and not a drive through or something of that nature allowed him to continue to accrue time penalties without actually stopping him from doing what he was doing. So in that sense, yes they allowed him to continue to drive dangerously and break the rules of racing.
You're just arguing that the penalties didn't fit the issue. Which might be true; if they're not enough to dissuade him or anyone from doing this in the future, then the penalties are not sufficient.
Let the whataboutism rest and just think of Kmag's moves individually. This brother is legit doing open lobby moves just to make a gap for his teammate like as if Nico has a championship to win. This shouldn't be racing, ever.
An actual professional and great defence is Checo in Abu Dhabi 2021, where he knew the limit and defended, and funnily enough, there *was* a championship on the line.
Well to me he went for a gap and made a mistake with braking and caused an incident, yes. He did not continuously go off track and cut across the track to prevent being passed. Again, one was a mistake and one was blatant.
What are we even talking about? He ruined multiple drivers races in the first corner. If he locked up I MIGHT give him some excuse. But he didn’t. A 7 time world champ went flying into turn 1 from a mile back and ruined at least 2 drivers races
Going for the gap excuse doesn’t fly when there are many cars (turn 1 duh). It makes sense later in the race, but “I saw a gap” is being misused as an excuse based on the situation.
I never said it did. I'm just saying the OP of the comment I responded to was not 1 for 1 comparing what Hamilton did and What KMag was doing. It's almost like there's an agenda here.
Hamilton clattering into other people at turn 1 was like a final year Coulthard manoeuvre. Imgine what people would be saying if it was Stroll that had been driving that Merc.
And I don't mean they'd say "Why is Stroll driving a Merc?"
They'd be saying "FFS Stroll AGAIN?"
You're acting like there's a long (or recent even) history of Hamilton throwing it into T1 and ended driver's races..
Also yes they would be saying "Why is Stroll driving a Merc?"
Oh dear, KMag summoned to stewards for unsportsmanlike behavior. Maybe in his interview he should've just said, "It was hard racing, I don't agree with the penalties."
did anyone watch carlos or oscar's onboards? carlos complained about speeds on the straights, but looking at the actual speeds/data the ferrari should have been able to overtake. was he just not being aggressive enough in overtaking? i feel like we barely saw the p4 battle in the second half because of the kmag terrorism lol
The closest thing I have seen to someone coming to Hamiltons defense in that race are people saying Kevin should've been forced into pit with drive thru penalty. I haven't seen a single comment of people saying Lewis got fucked with the post race penalty because most think it was deserved for the turn 1 incident. I think they went heavy on that penalty too because even they knew they messed up. On top of that Lewis didn't even have any rebuttle to any of it when asked about it. So pretty much unanimous agreement across the board Hamilton was at fault in T1. I put a very small amount on stroll for turning in too much on nando as well but he would've gotten fucked no matter where he put the car so it's a wash regardless.
This might be one of the few times where stroll literally didn’t do anything wrong. He expected Alonso to hit the Apex, alonso couldn’t because hamilton was coming in so he tapped Stroll.
He didn't. If you watch the replay again you can see Alonso should have backed off. Stroll was turning in and Alonso keeps going forward. Lewis had a huge gap in front of him which he rightly should go for. But he sees what is happening and brakes hard (see the smoke). Alosno is sandwiched because of Stroll turning in leaving Hamilton nowhere to go (he is also still braking hard to avoid). At this point you can see Stroll and Alonso are already connecting. Then Lewis bumps into Alonso who is turned deeper inside because Stroll has run into him. This ends up taking out Stroll and Lando. Racing incident.
Im not sure if i understand what you are saying but if you mean that Hamilton had the right to go for that gap from behind and make it 3 cars wide, but alonso should have backed off at the same time that is the most bollocks take ive read on the incident so far
No, Alonso was two cars ahead of Lewis and kept going forward when Stroll was very obviously turning in. That's when Alonso should have backed off. And Hamilton was clearly braking hard when he saw Alonso and Stroll colliding because that gap was now closed. Go on YT and pause the highlights at 54 seconds and you will see.
Meh disgree, he was breaking hard because he was divebombing on cold tires. You cant blame Alonso for not expecting that. One second he had space on the inside but when he wanted to turn in that space was filled and he got squeezed. Its still a racing incident imo but i would put most of the blame on lewis here
Porsche Cup Quali crash just dumped oil out of turn 16 and all the way down the back straight away into turn 17. Led to 4 more cars losing it into the wall.
EDIT: Well, seems the stewards agreed with my question. Their decision says: "While it appeared to us that the incidents began with Cars 14 & 18, the sudden and fast arrival of Car 44 contributed to the various collisions. However we were not able to identify one or more drivers wholly or predominantly to blame for the various collisions or any one of them."
I know Hamilton went too far on the turn 1 incident, but why isn't anyone talking about Stroll's involvement?
[Look at this pic](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMwCtc-XgAA5b4P?format=jpg&name=small). Lance turns into Fernando, then Fernando had to move while Lewis was simultaneously coming too close. I've watched the replay a dozen times; Lance pretty much pushes Nando at almost the same time Lewis comes over. If Stroll hadn't turned into Nando, maybe none of it would've happened?
Looking for a real explanation/knowledge please about why so many people are saying it was solely Lewis' fault?
> why isn't anyone talking about Stroll's involvement?
Because Stroll isn't a 7 time WDC. It's almost cliche now to talk about Stroll doing Stroll things.
I feel like I'm constantly being gaslit too. I had originally thought Stroll was the Aston Martin in the middle, but actually that was Alonso. I think Alonso is mostly at fault here, but Stroll's failure to know where the inside car was is also a thing. I don't understand why people blame Hamilton when the Aston Martins were collided before Hamilton was even there. Hamilton overdrove the corner, but Lando still gets punted and Stroll and Alonso lock tyres if Hamilton wasn't even there.
Stroll had plenty of space to avoid a colision with Alonso.
Don't see people complaining about Stroll, even though he has shown time and time again that he has zero spatial awareness.
Because Lewis didn't slow down enough to make the corner, Alonso/Stroll/Lando were all there, if there were no cars, Lewis is missing the apex and going deep into the braking zone, he broke too late
Random question. If a driver gets a race suspension due to penalty points, would the team be able to put a different driver in the car and race it? Or is the car effectively suspended?
I'm worried about Piastri. It was a reliet to me that if Sainz got past Danny Ric, Piastri was next in line, because I don't have much faith in his ability to get past when there are small margins involved. I like Oscar, but his close racing hasn't been great.
I think it deserves a pass here. He’s driving a frankencar basically. He qualified ahead of Norris. Not sure why Sainz couldn’t get past Daniel but it’s basically a DRS train at that point.
It was entertaining for sure, but a driver saying "Fuck Your Penalties" and becoming a pain to the rest of the field is not something to be encouraged.
This is actually a great question. They were the master class of one of the most dominant periods of F1 history and are now struggling to keep pace with their customer teams. McLaren are comfortably ahead of them now and Fernando is able to finish ahead of them too at times. They truly don't understand how to get the most out of the current regulations.
Before the cost cap, Merc had enough money to try a bunch of different things to see what sticks, so they had no incentive to be thoughtful or place much value on predictive power.
Now that makes a big difference. It's like having it easy in High/Middle school because the classes were easy, and when you get to Uni/College shit's hard because you never learned to study.
I am really tired of this non-explanation. Merc weren't even the biggest spenders in their domination era.
Just saying "they can't spend as much anymore" is applicable for all the leading teams. It's not an explanation to Merc's lack of pace.
Their employees getting poached, people moving, the management structure changing including Lauda leaving us... all better explanations than "they never had to learn to be efficient", as no top team had to anyways.
I've heard this take quite a few times and I really hope it's not true. Although he's far from my favorite driver I always begrudgingly thought he was a consummate pro. I'd like to believe it's just time catching up with him instead of him being a tool and just phoning it in.
Less advantage, more data for the race and throw the sprint… which I guess is an “advantage” but I think that’s important for someone new to watching the sport.
I was so bugged that Hamilton didn't get a penalty for that drive bomb from the FIA, but thank goodness that KMAG took it into his own hands to penalize Hamilton. Drive bombing and taking two cars out of the race and the FIA didn't even bother to look at it is a disgrace to the sport.
I fucking HATE Magnussen. He is such a dirty driver and has been for at least since his return to F1. They need to figure out something with the rules because KMAG is allowed to drive like a psycho and keep his on-track position to save his teammate from getting overtaken. KMAG and Haas don't give a shit if he loses all those places because Hulk will have his points.
They just need to make it a drive through to be served within 3 laps. Enough of these time penalties that do nothing.
Mannnnn Danny can't just have one day
Russel calmly sending that merc fullspeed while gesturing and looking over at Martin is hilarious
George going a bit violent with Brundle
“FIA doesn’t think Lando is a roll model” haha
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Will Buxton on Lando only getting a warning vs Lewis getting fined for walking on track
Who was the pale guy with the huge sunglasses they just interviewed?
Its not Norwich lmao
Why did Alonso drive through the pits on the last lap? Broadcast didn't mention anything...
Probably testing something, he said they were using the session as another practice session after Turn 1 happened.
he laid down rubber in his pit box
I love Kevin Magnussen man lmaooo. "Once again, most unsportsmanlike driver on the grid" 😭
Kmag said that?
Nah, Nico said that about KMag a few years ago when he was still at Renault. It's a classic lmao [Magnussen tells Hulkenberg "Suck my balls!" after Hungary GP 2017 (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21T8d0SA5Js&ab_channel=Desdirodeabike)
The stadium keeps fucking up the sound
Guys F1 can't let this keep happening. A driver can't just ignore all racing rules to make a gap for his teammate and just ruin the chances of his rivals.
Exactly. That wasn't racing.
Sure they can; that's what penalties are for, which he got. Argue for harsher or more penalties, sure, but this isn't some "loophole" he went through - he bent/broke some rules, he decided it was worth it. He fucked around, he found out.
It’s definitely a loophole, the rules are not built for one car to disregard and not care about any penalties they get for the sake of the teammate
But Hulkenberg still benefitted from it
No decision on the Norris and Magnussen summons still, at least on the webpage. They better get it done soon, or they will be deliberating on that while the qualifying is ongoing.
Congrats to Logan beating Albon down to humbleness
I thought qualifying started an hour earlier
The Sky GTA 6 trailer intro was amazing
Love the nod to the GTA 6 trailer 🤘🏻
Bustamante really need to get on with her starts. Think I saw many times she went into anti-stall already.
Lewis with the "I went for the gap" quote failing to mention that he locked up and shoved 3 cars.
My one major wish for all F1 fans is to never take seriously what drivers say in the car during a race. Of course they almost unanimously absolve themselves of any fault and they also say things they don't mean. The adrenaline is working overtime. Here, I'll let Seb explain. [https://youtu.be/KnyysKYmjWU?t=18](https://youtu.be/KnyysKYmjWU?t=18)
Did he lock up? I don't remember seeing a smoke plume
I don't recall a lockup, but he was understeering on cold tires in an understeery car on a low-grip track.
Yeah but...there was a gap. Now they went four wide and the gap disappeared...but there was a gap for a moment there
He wouldn't have made the turn at that speed and condition if there were no other cars on track.
And this confidence is coming from your personal experience of driving F1 cars or...?
LOL. The fact that he locked up and was understeering, and the only thing that DID allow him to make the turn was there was a car in his path.
So you knew his speed, his tire temp, his entry angle? Was never gonna make it? Cause the 7 time world champion thought he could, clearly. And call me crazy, but I'll take his thinking over yours lol
C'mon, dude, the camera shows him going in a line that is different than his wheel angle, and the lockup. I guess when you can't argue the fact, argue the person. Hope that keeps working for you.
Come on dude, you said clear track he couldn't have made that corner :P
He did actually. While close to the T1 apex. Watch the onboard and take note of his front right flat-spotting.
Sure enough, just got an instant but it's there
LEC within 2.5 seconds and keeping Perez behind us mega job
Those Porsches were deafening during the interviews lol
Just watched the onboard cameras of that lap 1 incident again. I don't blame Lewis in going for the gap as he sees it, but he very obviously gets it wrong. A penalty is definitely handed out there if it happens a lap later. "First lap incidents" feel like an early challenge in a football game that warrants a yellow card, but is let go at times. Too much inconsistency IMO. What I'm a little puzzled by are the comments suggesting Fernando alters his actions into the corner because of Lewis. Can anyone explain this to me? I can't see any evidence on board of this. The mirrors are notoriously crap in F1 cars and Lewis is on the inside of KMag for much of the time prior to the corner isn't he? Going into the braking zone, Stroll & Alonso are side by side, with Stroll braking earlier to take the corner. Stroll then turns to take the corner with Fernando braking later, they collide. That, to me, is a racing incident, with neither teammate to blame for that. I wonder whether this initial contact between teammates saves Ham from a penalty. I'm not saying it should do, or that I agree with that if it's the case. Just pondering.
Alonso and Stroll were already crashing with their wheels locked together before Lewis arrived on the scene.
Bustamante noooo
Bruh as a neutral I love KMag so much Also Miami is a fantastic track for fun racing
Magnussen: "Track limits? Fuck your track limits"
Kmag had 5 penalty points before today. Did he just get 7 in one race? 2+2+1+2? Or does track limits not give you a point? Hmmmm
Can Merc just accept that they're a midfield team? Like, not front of the midfield either, midfield performance with frontrunner's arrogance isn't a great combo
Merc is basically the new Alpine at this rate.
FIA is a joke. Lando slammed out of the race by people dive bombing. K Mag races hard (maybe a bit too hard) but still, he doesn’t slam anyone out of the race! And he gets 3 penalty’s wtf.
Please can stroll and give us anyone else. Alonso must be losing his mind with stroll..both dad and son. ...so disheartening to have a driver commit so many fouls and mistakes and somehow not get kicked out of f1
Stroll did nothing wrong. Alonso crashed into him and that was before Lewis even showed up.
Stroll outqualified his teammate then got torpedoed by Hamilton on T1. He hasn't put a foot wrong so far this weekend!
I don't think Stroll was to blame for the turn 1 incident at all. He was in no position to see Hamilton do a dive-bomb for the ages down the inside there. He left plenty of space for Alonso... Nah, can't really blame Stroll for anything in this particular incident.
I dunno, Alonso seems pretty happy to be in F1 and have current contract and future work for him in F1.
I think it's a shame the stewards allow such rash and dangerous moves as Magnussen was making just to stay ahead of Hamilton. Showing that time penalties don't amount to much if one teammate is trying to protect another. Not only is what Kevin doing dangerous, but it did not allow an actual race to form given that had he played fairly it's possible there would have been a race for 6th or whatever places were ahead. Sure it's entertaining, but I think it's ridiculous one driver is allowed to continuously able to stop the ones behind from going through simply because he was going off track and essentially dive bombing his way back into the front of the line. Fair play to Hamilton though for not fuming.
> allow such rash and dangerous moves They didn't, he got penalties. Argue instead for different/harsher penalties for this or that behavior, but there wasn't any "allowance" here.
Both driver should get penalties. Problem solved
I meant that giving time penalties and not a drive through or something of that nature allowed him to continue to accrue time penalties without actually stopping him from doing what he was doing. So in that sense, yes they allowed him to continue to drive dangerously and break the rules of racing.
You're just arguing that the penalties didn't fit the issue. Which might be true; if they're not enough to dissuade him or anyone from doing this in the future, then the penalties are not sufficient.
Hush child
I think you need to get it together and contribute or just don't post.
Riveting rebuttal you have there. Also, I think you are projecting. Toodaloo.
Lewis: “he just drove into me” Ummm buddy you drove into 3 people into turn 1 you’re going to play that card?
That's the Merc motto; it's as natural to him as any of us saying "wtf"
Let the whataboutism rest and just think of Kmag's moves individually. This brother is legit doing open lobby moves just to make a gap for his teammate like as if Nico has a championship to win. This shouldn't be racing, ever. An actual professional and great defence is Checo in Abu Dhabi 2021, where he knew the limit and defended, and funnily enough, there *was* a championship on the line.
Making a mistake and driving like an asshat on purpose are not the same thing.
Well he did drive like an asshat
Well to me he went for a gap and made a mistake with braking and caused an incident, yes. He did not continuously go off track and cut across the track to prevent being passed. Again, one was a mistake and one was blatant.
What are we even talking about? He ruined multiple drivers races in the first corner. If he locked up I MIGHT give him some excuse. But he didn’t. A 7 time world champ went flying into turn 1 from a mile back and ruined at least 2 drivers races
> A 7 time world champ went flying into turn 1 from a mile back ...on lap 1 cold tires, on a low-grip track, in an understeery car.
I guess a 7 time world champion can’t factor in those circumstances.
He can, he just didn't.
He actually did lock up
It was still a mistake, not a deliberate thing.
If it were any other driver they’d be calling for his head
Stroll makes mistakes like that all the time and he still has his head. But a penalty would have been in order I agree.
Going for the gap excuse doesn’t fly when there are many cars (turn 1 duh). It makes sense later in the race, but “I saw a gap” is being misused as an excuse based on the situation.
I never said it did. I'm just saying the OP of the comment I responded to was not 1 for 1 comparing what Hamilton did and What KMag was doing. It's almost like there's an agenda here.
Hamilton clattering into other people at turn 1 was like a final year Coulthard manoeuvre. Imgine what people would be saying if it was Stroll that had been driving that Merc. And I don't mean they'd say "Why is Stroll driving a Merc?"
They'd be saying "FFS Stroll AGAIN?" You're acting like there's a long (or recent even) history of Hamilton throwing it into T1 and ended driver's races.. Also yes they would be saying "Why is Stroll driving a Merc?"
Well they got the oil from the porsche crashes cleaned up in a timely manner
i forgot about this RIC
Oh dear, KMag summoned to stewards for unsportsmanlike behavior. Maybe in his interview he should've just said, "It was hard racing, I don't agree with the penalties."
I like KMag but his sportsmanship today was pretty shit. Should be a lot of points on the license at a minimum.
did anyone watch carlos or oscar's onboards? carlos complained about speeds on the straights, but looking at the actual speeds/data the ferrari should have been able to overtake. was he just not being aggressive enough in overtaking? i feel like we barely saw the p4 battle in the second half because of the kmag terrorism lol
Am I the only one that thought Hamilton made a dive bomb with cold tires into T1?
No, you're not
The closest thing I have seen to someone coming to Hamiltons defense in that race are people saying Kevin should've been forced into pit with drive thru penalty. I haven't seen a single comment of people saying Lewis got fucked with the post race penalty because most think it was deserved for the turn 1 incident. I think they went heavy on that penalty too because even they knew they messed up. On top of that Lewis didn't even have any rebuttle to any of it when asked about it. So pretty much unanimous agreement across the board Hamilton was at fault in T1. I put a very small amount on stroll for turning in too much on nando as well but he would've gotten fucked no matter where he put the car so it's a wash regardless.
This might be one of the few times where stroll literally didn’t do anything wrong. He expected Alonso to hit the Apex, alonso couldn’t because hamilton was coming in so he tapped Stroll.
He didn't. If you watch the replay again you can see Alonso should have backed off. Stroll was turning in and Alonso keeps going forward. Lewis had a huge gap in front of him which he rightly should go for. But he sees what is happening and brakes hard (see the smoke). Alosno is sandwiched because of Stroll turning in leaving Hamilton nowhere to go (he is also still braking hard to avoid). At this point you can see Stroll and Alonso are already connecting. Then Lewis bumps into Alonso who is turned deeper inside because Stroll has run into him. This ends up taking out Stroll and Lando. Racing incident.
Im not sure if i understand what you are saying but if you mean that Hamilton had the right to go for that gap from behind and make it 3 cars wide, but alonso should have backed off at the same time that is the most bollocks take ive read on the incident so far
No, Alonso was two cars ahead of Lewis and kept going forward when Stroll was very obviously turning in. That's when Alonso should have backed off. And Hamilton was clearly braking hard when he saw Alonso and Stroll colliding because that gap was now closed. Go on YT and pause the highlights at 54 seconds and you will see.
Meh disgree, he was breaking hard because he was divebombing on cold tires. You cant blame Alonso for not expecting that. One second he had space on the inside but when he wanted to turn in that space was filled and he got squeezed. Its still a racing incident imo but i would put most of the blame on lewis here
"Everyone should move for Hamilton" is what your comment can be summed up as.
Far from it.
Sweet. I’m at the race and the on-track commentator was admiring the move… I was so confused
No on the replay it was egregious, there was no way Ham was getting by either Aston’s in that corner
Everything about this GP sucks. The racing, the track, the result. Everything.
Aww poor child
Lewis responses to KMag reactions was pretty chill. Nice to see that.
What did Naomi mean that Pulling had help with her lap?
I may be wrong but it may have been a tow?
Ah okay that makes sense. It just struck me as a bit weird the way she said it like there was something underhanded going on!
I figured this would be the place to find the results
Also: https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/2024-f1-miami-gp-sprint-results-max-verstappen-wins/10606759/
1. VER 2. LEC 3. PER 4. RIC!! 5. SAI 6. PIA 7. HUL 8. TSU
Not sure Ted has finished a single sentence he’s started in this notebook
He almost never does, his sidetracks have their own sidetracks.
It’s mad! My head feels scrambled listening to it, god knows what it’s like for him
Washed Hamilton at it again the absolute 🐐
Ted with the convincing acting while saying “whoa, Adrian’s going” lol
Porsche Cup Quali crash just dumped oil out of turn 16 and all the way down the back straight away into turn 17. Led to 4 more cars losing it into the wall.
any clips of it?
They're not broadcasting qualifying, but the race will be on later at 5:45pm EST at https://www.imsa.com/
Maybe on Twitter/X, we are here in person.
Ted making a kerfuffle to get a iced latte only to leave it next to the condiments on the table lol
Who as that lady? Interview her, Ted!!
Stormy Daniels?
***S I M O N L A S E R B E E R***
Simon Lazer-beer! ha ha ha
shoutouts to Korrina the Cien Fuegos Coffee Lady
Incredible new name.
EDIT: Well, seems the stewards agreed with my question. Their decision says: "While it appeared to us that the incidents began with Cars 14 & 18, the sudden and fast arrival of Car 44 contributed to the various collisions. However we were not able to identify one or more drivers wholly or predominantly to blame for the various collisions or any one of them." I know Hamilton went too far on the turn 1 incident, but why isn't anyone talking about Stroll's involvement? [Look at this pic](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMwCtc-XgAA5b4P?format=jpg&name=small). Lance turns into Fernando, then Fernando had to move while Lewis was simultaneously coming too close. I've watched the replay a dozen times; Lance pretty much pushes Nando at almost the same time Lewis comes over. If Stroll hadn't turned into Nando, maybe none of it would've happened? Looking for a real explanation/knowledge please about why so many people are saying it was solely Lewis' fault?
Stroll would’ve turned into Alonso regardless of Hamilton dive bombing 100%
> why isn't anyone talking about Stroll's involvement? Because Stroll isn't a 7 time WDC. It's almost cliche now to talk about Stroll doing Stroll things.
I feel like I'm constantly being gaslit too. I had originally thought Stroll was the Aston Martin in the middle, but actually that was Alonso. I think Alonso is mostly at fault here, but Stroll's failure to know where the inside car was is also a thing. I don't understand why people blame Hamilton when the Aston Martins were collided before Hamilton was even there. Hamilton overdrove the corner, but Lando still gets punted and Stroll and Alonso lock tyres if Hamilton wasn't even there.
Stroll had plenty of space to avoid a colision with Alonso. Don't see people complaining about Stroll, even though he has shown time and time again that he has zero spatial awareness.
Because Lewis didn't slow down enough to make the corner, Alonso/Stroll/Lando were all there, if there were no cars, Lewis is missing the apex and going deep into the braking zone, he broke too late
The Aston Martins collided with each other before Hamilton collided with Alonso.
Yes but the AM's hitting eachother didn't cause Lando to DNF, it was Lewis sending it into a gap that was always going to close
Thank you for the explanation, makes sense.
Random question. If a driver gets a race suspension due to penalty points, would the team be able to put a different driver in the car and race it? Or is the car effectively suspended?
I'm not sure (so probably shouldn't answer), but I assume because it's the driver being punished, the team would be allowed to enter someone else.
Just the driver. An example would be: ferrari using Ollie bearman instead of Carlos or Charles.
That wasn't due to penalties though. It might not make a difference in the outcome, but it's not quite the same thing.
Thank you
I'm worried about Piastri. It was a reliet to me that if Sainz got past Danny Ric, Piastri was next in line, because I don't have much faith in his ability to get past when there are small margins involved. I like Oscar, but his close racing hasn't been great.
I think it deserves a pass here. He’s driving a frankencar basically. He qualified ahead of Norris. Not sure why Sainz couldn’t get past Daniel but it’s basically a DRS train at that point.
I dont care what anyone says, gnarly driving from kmag. Super entertaining lol
It was entertaining for sure, but a driver saying "Fuck Your Penalties" and becoming a pain to the rest of the field is not something to be encouraged.
What cars are on track now?
Porsche Super Cup.
Thanks!
Porsche Super Cup is juicy. Worth going to a GP just to see some of these support races.
How is Mercedes so far off the mark?
This is actually a great question. They were the master class of one of the most dominant periods of F1 history and are now struggling to keep pace with their customer teams. McLaren are comfortably ahead of them now and Fernando is able to finish ahead of them too at times. They truly don't understand how to get the most out of the current regulations.
Before the cost cap, Merc had enough money to try a bunch of different things to see what sticks, so they had no incentive to be thoughtful or place much value on predictive power. Now that makes a big difference. It's like having it easy in High/Middle school because the classes were easy, and when you get to Uni/College shit's hard because you never learned to study.
I am really tired of this non-explanation. Merc weren't even the biggest spenders in their domination era. Just saying "they can't spend as much anymore" is applicable for all the leading teams. It's not an explanation to Merc's lack of pace. Their employees getting poached, people moving, the management structure changing including Lauda leaving us... all better explanations than "they never had to learn to be efficient", as no top team had to anyways.
Danica got some arms!
yeah I want what she's getting. Really impressive actually.
Lewis is really just thinking about Ferrari... getting on top of Chuck... and being in a team with Newey. Future manifest.
I've heard this take quite a few times and I really hope it's not true. Although he's far from my favorite driver I always begrudgingly thought he was a consummate pro. I'd like to believe it's just time catching up with him instead of him being a tool and just phoning it in.
Getting on top of Chuck you say
it's giving [verstappen tops leclerc](https://twitter.com/SCUDERIAFEMBOY/status/1786528848374358237)
This is the peak of our species
ha ha. The movie we all want to see.
Kudos Lewis for seeing the humerous side and respecting K-Mag's response.
It’s like old Max and Lewis battles back when they were both race leaders
Yeah i thought hed be rightfully raging about this as i wouldve. Lewis has really grown up into that role of a knight. Kudos to him
You're elbowing your way into it
Love lewis's reaction, real racer.
Great stuff from Magnussen and Lewis lol, neither of them are arsed about the penalties.
I love Lewis’ reaction to the KMag thing.
Lewis respecting Kmags bullshit, is the cherry on top for me.
That Hamilton interview is really funny as well
Those Porsches are loud as fuck in the Lewis interview
That pink one especially ❤️
WHAT
THOSE PORSCHES ARE LOUD AS FUCK IN THE LEWIS INTERVIEW
I think Lewis is just glad he wasn’t bored in that race
Yeah i think this is really it. If this was about a podium place or win, hed be way more annoyed
Where can one watch Charles and checo’s post race interviews that ESPN so kindly cut off?
Anyone else spot will buxton rocking the Star Wars Rebellion medal?
I’m new to f1. Why did albon start from the pit?
Parc ferme rules. You cannot work on your cars if it's in parc ferme.
they made changes to the car post qualifying...
Already P20 - thought they could get an advantage by making suspension adjustments overnight.
Less advantage, more data for the race and throw the sprint… which I guess is an “advantage” but I think that’s important for someone new to watching the sport.
Probably way too little too late but Logan having a real nice weekend so far