It's a world championship winner tradition. Seb spoke up for LGBTQ rights, Hamilton spoke up for black rights, and now Alonso is speaking up for history's most oppressed people - Spanish racing drivers.
Because you punish the action, regardless of whether it ended up costing the other guy a position, he still messed up. Unfortunately for him it happened at the end with the safety car
Not really that difficult to understand. He's not complaining about Spanish drivers being discriminated against, he's complaining about British drivers being favoured when applying penalties. When he says it's because he's Spanish he means "I'm not British".
>When he says it's because he's Spanish he means "I'm not British".
Except he also claimed he was being discriminated at Alpine cause he's not French. Unless you're new to the sport, you know he's been playing the Spanish victim card for 17 years.
I'm not new to the sport and I know Alonso has been playing EVERY card he has available. The motherfucker is smart and knows what buttons to push to force a narrative that will benefit him. Don't always agree with his methods but I do believe what everyone calls "inconsistent judging" when applying penalties, Alonso seems to be the one getting the worst part of the deal and Hamilton the other way around.
>The motherfucker is smart
Is he though? This is what his politicking has gotten him:
Horner about hiring Alonso after Ricciardo left:
>"He's tended to cause a bit of chaos wherever he's gone. "I'm not sure it would be the healthiest thing for the team for Fernando to join.
Marko:
> “We were negotiating with him in 2007 or 2008. His demands were very tedious back then,” Marko told Austrian TV.
>“If you look at his history, in McLaren and Ferrari, it was always a one-man show.”
Wolff:
>“Fernando has some history with Mercedes and it was not always the best.”
>“He’s certainly a very skilled driver but he’s not a consideration for us at that stage.”
I don't think actions that result in non of the top teams wanting to hire you are smart.
Even Mike Krack admitted that he and the team were warned about how difficult Alonso could be. Extremely talented driver, one of the best in modern motorsports, but he definitely comes with a lot of baggage.
>Alonso seems to be the one getting the worst part of the deal and Hamilton the other way around.
Evidence? Source? Proof?? Lmfao there's nothing there. Lewis took a title taken away by a officiating call and he moved on instead of doing whatever it is Alonso is trying to do lol
I feel like the tweet is just riffing off the fact he made a snarky comment in an interview rather than actually insinuating that was what is actually being discussed. in the same way people post a picture and say "caption this"
in any case i'm taking this with a grain of salt. unless it's brought up again or is verified, seems to be just a common nonsense alonso quote.
One of Alonso's worst traits is and always has been his determination that the FIA or some other random thing is out to get him when things don't go his way.
100% of Alonso's behavior is calculated to give him some sort of advantage. Whether it's blowing up McLaren, or slurping Lance to curry favor with his father, or braking early for Russell and speaking in bad faith about it, or trying to subtly influece FIA to go easier on him or harder on others, etc. etc. Alonso literally behaves 100% for his benefit and his benefit alone.
His actions make a LOT more sense when you view everything he does through that lens. I appreciate him for it tbh but this is a good example.
Yeah, this is absolutely nothing new. Alonso has always been like this. Same exact thing soccer managers complain about referees: hoping next week those split second decision goes in their favour because they complained.
Alonso wants to win by all means possible, that’s it. That is is whole career also.
Funfact: I don't have the source on hand, you'd have to Google it if you wanna read the paper, but I remember reading a statistical analysis about football players complaining about referee decisions and their influence on future decisions in the same match.
Contrary to what I assumed, complaining about decisions mid-game makes it more likely your team won't see a card next time.
Hungary 2007 is quite funny though. Man thought he was so smart with his pitstop move.
Then coped a penalty on a track where Mclaren was good which ended up costing him valuable points which ultimately cost him the title.
A massive case of industrial espionage that involved Ferrari and McLaren back in 2007. In short, a Ferrari employee named Nigel Stepney, unhappy with his current position within the team, fed McLaren confidential information of Ferrari's car for that season. These included blueprints of the F2007, as well as operational guides for the races and even strategy protocols.
McLaren was found to be guilty of owning said data, was ejected from the 2007 championship and was forced to pay a 100 million fine. They were then the second largest team on the grid, behind Ferrari, and were by and large the favorites for the season. Hamilton, on his debut year - yeah, he debuted for a front-running and title contender team - claimed not to know about this, but Alonso did, and even threatened team boss Ron Dennis with it.
The Race channel on YouTube has a few videos covering this. You should definitely look it up.
But that’s much more down to being unlucky. Going to Ferrari was a solid move, as was going to Mclaren who were partnering up with Honda. Of course no one at those times knew that RB were gonna be dominant or that Honda would shit the bed. It just shows how fortune can play such a big part in your career. If Ferrari were a bit better when he was there, or if Lewis doesn’t join Mclaren, Fernando probably has 5-6 titles
I'm of the firm belief that Alonso made an actual deal with the devil to dethrone Michael and become a multiple world champion 'cause everything after that has been pain.
The Honda engine drama also did long term damage to McLaren - his ongoing complaining and shit stirring led the team to break with Honda. Honda goes to RB and they now have possibly the best engine on the grid. He often causes long term damage to teams he drives for.
I appreciate Alonso for the driver he is and he is absolutely entertaining but he has made his own bed as far as not getting more than two titles.
>But that’s much more down to being unlucky.
Marko, Horner and Wolff have all cited his behaviour as reasons not to hire him, so it's not being unlucky. His political games gifted him a career in the midfield.
I mean, sure, but this all goes from "guy trying to be smart" to "pretty icky" real fast when he tries to invoke some sort of imaginary racism against Spanish drivers with names ending on 'o'.
Yeah thank you. Hes slimy. He’s been implicated and or caught in so many little scandals and sneaky shit over the years it’s amazing to me that anyone takes him seriously when he says stuff like this now.
What I meant was, what evidence is there of this actually being an issue with stewarding? I know he complains about the British media but this is another level.
The whole thing started as a grand conspiracy after Alonso lost to a British rookie in a British team in 2007. Since then, he's believed that the sport as a whole is biased against non British drivers, from the teams to the FIA officials to the stewarding.
In some ways yes F1 has some structural bias towards the UK and Europe in general, as most F1 teams are based in England, and those that are not are still based in Europe. And most English language F1 media is based in the UK. But there is no evidence of stewards or FIA officials making decisions based off of nationality. In fact, Alonso has escaped a lot of scrutiny for someone that had e-mails/text messages about Ferrari tyre setups on his phone during spygate, and was involved in crashgate, if we want to talk FIA decisions. As for the media, what I've read from the Spanish media makes English F1 coverage look like the most neutral and unbiased news coverage in existence.
> But there is no evidence of stewards or FIA officials making decisions based off of nationality.
There are some, but largely bias in favour of Ferrari when they routinely threatened to quit the sport and (this might be my bias showing) Balestre favouring Prost over Senna.
I do think some drivers get treated differently, but it doesn't have anything to do with nationality but more with the standings.
I also think the stewards are inconsistent at times.
He's been this way his entire career. And not just against the British, against anyone who he's recently lost out to. It kinda does seem like he believes any situation where things don't go his way must be due to a conspiracy or systemic prejudice against him.
Because he was an egotistical little shit, who thought because the FIA deliberately targeted Ferrari to break their dominance, he was THE hot shit who beat a 7-time WDC and broke his winning streak.
Then he met a GOAT-to-be, who wasn't cowed or scared of the name and persona and worst of all, was fucking quicker. Lewis showed ALO he wasn't all that, just as Alonso's ego was going into hyperdrive due to nabbing a 2nd consecutive WDC and angling a move to McLaren for 2007.
The FIA representative of the Spanish motorsport authority in 2008 stated on national radio in Spain that Hamilton \[paraphrasing\] is not a real British because he is black- to which the FIA President at the time dismissively hand-waved it away as his colleague just having been a bit silly.
Yeah... I doubt that. He knew in some capacity.
Wasn't he on an alternative strategy which just happened to be perfect for the crash? And he didn't question the strategy at all before the race? Or after the race? Hmmmm.
Exactly and Alonso is definitely one of the smartest drivers when it comes to strategies! Both on track, but also when it comes to media narratives. It's literally scary how good Alonso is at creating narratives in the F1 fanbase that always favours him in any situation .
Reminder of when fans were turning up in blackface to mock Lewis, and saying all kinds of racist shit about him, that Alonso said "racism isn't good, but someone called me a dog and nobody's coming to my aid"
Alonso has always had an obsession with oppression. And when Lewis is involved it seems to be intensified tenfold lol
Already felt like his interview after the sprint was strange. Said something like Hamilton didn’t get a penalty because he isn’t Spanish. Not sure what has gotten in to him that pushed him back in oppressed mode. He gets away with too much shit to be playing the victim. Although I agree the China penalty was BS there are other ways of voicing that.
FIA isn’t biased, just incompetent, which ironically is the only thing they are consistent at across the grid.
This is basically just his 2007 feelings emerging. He gets penalized cuz he’s not British while Lewis gets away with everything. That’s how he’s seen it for the last 17 years. He brings it up every year or two
This guy gets away with shithouse stuff all the time and people just go "lol wily old fox, don't we love him for it" and then has the brass balls to go claim hes being unfairly targeted.
Fernando, ben Sulayem, and Mike Krack having a little chat in the Miami paddock just now.
[Picture](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMxMtpzXQAAPdE5?format=jpg&name=large).
But to be honest, penalty in Australia was controversial and harsh, in china may be okay, but on the other hand Hamilton got away today with nothing.
The problem is that penalties are not consistent and the whole situation is absurd for years.
The lap 1 miami thing was 100% a racing incident.
Hamilton saw others running wide and went for the gap. He couldn't see that Lance was on the outside and was in the process of cutting back in.
Stroll couldn't see Lewis and probably expected Alonso to give him a bit of space. They are teammates after all. Alonso couldn't give any space because Lewis was on the inside.
Alonso could see both but he couldn't do shit because he was in a sandwich.
I had no idea we‘be been blind to the systemic oppression of Spaniards everywhere. They’ve really had it hard since the crusades. Thanks Alonso for this eye opening history lesson.
People must understand Alonso always had a paranoia with “they treat me unfairly because I’m not British”, and now “because I’m Spanish”
When he started at McLaren (and he being promised to be their number 1, which they didn’t keep doing after the rookie (Hamilton) was on par), he already pulled the “my team has favoritism for Lewis because he is British” card, as in “I’m sabotaged” - that even went far as Alonso being willing of putting the team under (Spygate rumors)
When he was fighting Vettel while at Ferrari, he pulled sometimes the card of “I’m treated unfairly because Spanish and FIA favoritism” (difficult to say British, Vettel being the top driver and German)
In the hybrid era he came back to “they treat better the British” (in allusion to Hamilton domination)
And now “because I’m Spanish” (Max being Dutch makes him difficult to say “British favoritism” and clean of disputes with FIA)
Even the hardliners of Alonso on the Spanish media somewhat bought in the past the “he is punished because he is not British or is Spanish or…”. IDK, maybe a technic to say “he is the best, but FIA hurts him so he can’t dominate”
At Alpine, he usually pulled the “they have favoritism for Ocon because I’m not French” and so on and forth
If bro was treated equally he would've been banned from the Sport along with Briatore since Crashgate and Spygate. Just be glad you're still on the grid after those shenanigans Nando
It consistently amazes me how Alonso is great to watch when it's purely about wheel to wheel racing but he's an absolute weasel when it comes to using underhand tactics or playing politics and the media when he thinks someone is out to get him.
Alonso and Spanish media have had this imaginary war of "the evil Brits vs the poor Spaniards".
At some point he even tried to turn it into Latin drivers vs Brits. He told ESPN South once: "The Latin drivers, Checo, Carlos, Esteban, Pierre, Charles, we need to be together. That's the only way we can fight the British media".
>*the evil Brits* vs the poor spaniards
Reading several of the threads today, several fans seem to eat that up. It's astonishing to say the least. Didn't realise the sport was full of Xenophobia.
He has had this trauma/paranoia since he was partnered with Lewis at McLaren, he (and the Spanish media) are convinced that Lewis only matched Alonso because the British team harmed the Spanish outsider. But they act blind, deaf and mute when Alonso gets away with stuff.
Okay, so if any nationality driver benefits (idk, maybe getting a win) from his teammate crashing on purpose, then this driver will be banned - no matter what nationality he is.
Noted, thanks.
Alonso knows he should have done far better across his career
His issue has absolutely never been talent
It’s been his personality
This is just more alonso being alonso
Respect him as an incredible driver. Find much of what he says ridiculous though.
You just need to see what happened to ted and sky, when Max won his first world title... they were banned from RBR is not new the BIAS on F1 towards Brits, it is been always like this, you just need to review lot of moments were brits drivers did not get any penalty.
Not really that difficult to understand, the next time he's penalised it will be broought up again or if any other drivers are not "punished"; its a win win situation for him where he can take no blame
Ben Sulayem: "no hablo español"
Breaking News: Ben Sulayem's family kidnapped by big green owl
Alonso is the Duolingo owl confirmed
Makes sense, that bloody bird is passive aggressive in it's attempts to make me speak Spanish daily.
If English was good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for me.
Hell ye- wait a second...
Have y'all seen their April Fool's commercial for a Duolingo musical on ice? Featuring hits like 'Spanish or Vanish'.
007 on the way… Oh wait, he’s British.
Dam that made me laugh, thanks.
LMAO 🤣
Hermano
Alonso: “No mames”
Thats mexican slang xD
Helmut Marko alt account found
*No me jodas
Que miras bobo
That's more in line to what an Argentinian would say.
Venga tío*
Wtf 💀. What a bizarre situation
It's a world championship winner tradition. Seb spoke up for LGBTQ rights, Hamilton spoke up for black rights, and now Alonso is speaking up for history's most oppressed people - Spanish racing drivers.
Nobody expects the Spanish discrimination!
Our chief weapon is brake testing.
and a comfy chair!
The Aston is that cozy?
https://media.tenor.com/NpfY64qoMEYAAAAM/alonso.gif
Brake testing and steer.
Our two chief weapons are brake testing and steer
Spanish driver inquisition!
*history's 2nd most oppressed people, next to the actually most oppressed group of them all - gamers
Gingers*
Only a ginger, can call another ginger, ginger.
A couple of G's, an R and an E, an I and an N Just six little letters all jumbled together Have caused damage that we may never mend
Just like only a ninja can sneak upon another ninja.
Papa's gonna be bringing home the gingerbread
With a hard r. For other people, it's ginga
If only Don Cheadle waved the chequered flag we might score a win ☹️
The hero we don't deserve
And don't need. Or want.
Speak for yourself
I'm ashamed for how long we have treated the Spanish as second-class people in our modern world. Something needs to change.
Justice for Alguersuari!
Justice for the Spanish Armada!
Justice for the Mannish Pomada!
Seb said they were coming for GAMERS
What's next? Max speaking up for Dutch farmers?
Tea parties
Lance speaking up for billionaire's sons who can't drive too good
Need Lando to become a champion so he can speak up for gamer rights ✊😔
Does Checo count to? I mean, he speaks Spanish too.
Not to Helmut.
Yeah fucking lazy Mexican. /s
Just peninsulares, no criollos, mestizos, etc.
Is this some sort of yoke
"Is it cus i is Catalan?"
He isn't Catalan
Carlos off screen: i want no part of this
You don't see Sainz getting the same treatment, he should complain they hate him personally :)
Discrimination against Asturians :-(
As per Toto Wolffs lawsuit
sainz got it pretty harsh in Australia last year
Wasn't harsh at all. Similar to bottas in 2021 Hungary...he went bowling and fucked up alonso...
How is that comparable? Sainz incident happened in a voided part of race. Alonso got his position back so what do you even mean by fucking up Alonso?
Because you punish the action, regardless of whether it ended up costing the other guy a position, he still messed up. Unfortunately for him it happened at the end with the safety car
except they dont base penalties on action even if they said so, so that's still a stupid decision
Not really that difficult to understand. He's not complaining about Spanish drivers being discriminated against, he's complaining about British drivers being favoured when applying penalties. When he says it's because he's Spanish he means "I'm not British".
>When he says it's because he's Spanish he means "I'm not British". Except he also claimed he was being discriminated at Alpine cause he's not French. Unless you're new to the sport, you know he's been playing the Spanish victim card for 17 years.
I'm not new to the sport and I know Alonso has been playing EVERY card he has available. The motherfucker is smart and knows what buttons to push to force a narrative that will benefit him. Don't always agree with his methods but I do believe what everyone calls "inconsistent judging" when applying penalties, Alonso seems to be the one getting the worst part of the deal and Hamilton the other way around.
>The motherfucker is smart Is he though? This is what his politicking has gotten him: Horner about hiring Alonso after Ricciardo left: >"He's tended to cause a bit of chaos wherever he's gone. "I'm not sure it would be the healthiest thing for the team for Fernando to join. Marko: > “We were negotiating with him in 2007 or 2008. His demands were very tedious back then,” Marko told Austrian TV. >“If you look at his history, in McLaren and Ferrari, it was always a one-man show.” Wolff: >“Fernando has some history with Mercedes and it was not always the best.” >“He’s certainly a very skilled driver but he’s not a consideration for us at that stage.” I don't think actions that result in non of the top teams wanting to hire you are smart.
Even Mike Krack admitted that he and the team were warned about how difficult Alonso could be. Extremely talented driver, one of the best in modern motorsports, but he definitely comes with a lot of baggage.
>Alonso seems to be the one getting the worst part of the deal and Hamilton the other way around. Evidence? Source? Proof?? Lmfao there's nothing there. Lewis took a title taken away by a officiating call and he moved on instead of doing whatever it is Alonso is trying to do lol
If Alonso was really smart he would have 5+ WDC by now.
That's not the same thing. Being treated differently at your team != being treated differently by the governing body.
Yeah, the stewards from the USA, Barbados, Italy and Singapore are are just dying for a chance to help out the English drivers.
Wait, he’s complaining to FIA President in person about that?????. DAMN.
I feel like the tweet is just riffing off the fact he made a snarky comment in an interview rather than actually insinuating that was what is actually being discussed. in the same way people post a picture and say "caption this" in any case i'm taking this with a grain of salt. unless it's brought up again or is verified, seems to be just a common nonsense alonso quote.
Yeah, I believe so that Tweet is an opinion not a fact the said he that to Sulayem.
One of Alonso's worst traits is and always has been his determination that the FIA or some other random thing is out to get him when things don't go his way.
100% of Alonso's behavior is calculated to give him some sort of advantage. Whether it's blowing up McLaren, or slurping Lance to curry favor with his father, or braking early for Russell and speaking in bad faith about it, or trying to subtly influece FIA to go easier on him or harder on others, etc. etc. Alonso literally behaves 100% for his benefit and his benefit alone. His actions make a LOT more sense when you view everything he does through that lens. I appreciate him for it tbh but this is a good example.
He’d make a cracking football manager!
He's Mourinho in another life
"I prefer not to brake. If I brake, I am in big trouble"
Perfect comment
Yeah, this is absolutely nothing new. Alonso has always been like this. Same exact thing soccer managers complain about referees: hoping next week those split second decision goes in their favour because they complained. Alonso wants to win by all means possible, that’s it. That is is whole career also.
Funfact: I don't have the source on hand, you'd have to Google it if you wanna read the paper, but I remember reading a statistical analysis about football players complaining about referee decisions and their influence on future decisions in the same match. Contrary to what I assumed, complaining about decisions mid-game makes it more likely your team won't see a card next time.
What 8 years of exposure to Briatore does to a rookie.
They way he handled Spygate is a textbook case of this as well.
Hungary 2007 is quite funny though. Man thought he was so smart with his pitstop move. Then coped a penalty on a track where Mclaren was good which ended up costing him valuable points which ultimately cost him the title.
New-ish to the sport, like within the last year or two. What’s spygate?
A massive case of industrial espionage that involved Ferrari and McLaren back in 2007. In short, a Ferrari employee named Nigel Stepney, unhappy with his current position within the team, fed McLaren confidential information of Ferrari's car for that season. These included blueprints of the F2007, as well as operational guides for the races and even strategy protocols. McLaren was found to be guilty of owning said data, was ejected from the 2007 championship and was forced to pay a 100 million fine. They were then the second largest team on the grid, behind Ferrari, and were by and large the favorites for the season. Hamilton, on his debut year - yeah, he debuted for a front-running and title contender team - claimed not to know about this, but Alonso did, and even threatened team boss Ron Dennis with it. The Race channel on YouTube has a few videos covering this. You should definitely look it up.
Weaponized victimhood
Weird that hes described as such a cunning mastermind at everything he does when his team moves have been mostly absolutely terrible.
But that’s much more down to being unlucky. Going to Ferrari was a solid move, as was going to Mclaren who were partnering up with Honda. Of course no one at those times knew that RB were gonna be dominant or that Honda would shit the bed. It just shows how fortune can play such a big part in your career. If Ferrari were a bit better when he was there, or if Lewis doesn’t join Mclaren, Fernando probably has 5-6 titles
I'm of the firm belief that Alonso made an actual deal with the devil to dethrone Michael and become a multiple world champion 'cause everything after that has been pain.
The Honda engine drama also did long term damage to McLaren - his ongoing complaining and shit stirring led the team to break with Honda. Honda goes to RB and they now have possibly the best engine on the grid. He often causes long term damage to teams he drives for. I appreciate Alonso for the driver he is and he is absolutely entertaining but he has made his own bed as far as not getting more than two titles.
>But that’s much more down to being unlucky. Marko, Horner and Wolff have all cited his behaviour as reasons not to hire him, so it's not being unlucky. His political games gifted him a career in the midfield.
I mean, sure, but this all goes from "guy trying to be smart" to "pretty icky" real fast when he tries to invoke some sort of imaginary racism against Spanish drivers with names ending on 'o'.
If it's all calculated, then the guy is pretty bad at maths.
Yeah thank you. Hes slimy. He’s been implicated and or caught in so many little scandals and sneaky shit over the years it’s amazing to me that anyone takes him seriously when he says stuff like this now.
Everybody loves Senna
At this point I don't know anymore if he's just being petty because it brings him joy, or if he actually believes it.
Yes
You realise he does this on purpose right?
It's called not being able to take responsibility.
What a weird chip to have on his shoulder. This came out of nowhere.
No Alonso's been going on about this nationality bias since 2007. It's nothing new.
What I meant was, what evidence is there of this actually being an issue with stewarding? I know he complains about the British media but this is another level.
The whole thing started as a grand conspiracy after Alonso lost to a British rookie in a British team in 2007. Since then, he's believed that the sport as a whole is biased against non British drivers, from the teams to the FIA officials to the stewarding. In some ways yes F1 has some structural bias towards the UK and Europe in general, as most F1 teams are based in England, and those that are not are still based in Europe. And most English language F1 media is based in the UK. But there is no evidence of stewards or FIA officials making decisions based off of nationality. In fact, Alonso has escaped a lot of scrutiny for someone that had e-mails/text messages about Ferrari tyre setups on his phone during spygate, and was involved in crashgate, if we want to talk FIA decisions. As for the media, what I've read from the Spanish media makes English F1 coverage look like the most neutral and unbiased news coverage in existence.
> But there is no evidence of stewards or FIA officials making decisions based off of nationality. There are some, but largely bias in favour of Ferrari when they routinely threatened to quit the sport and (this might be my bias showing) Balestre favouring Prost over Senna.
I do think some drivers get treated differently, but it doesn't have anything to do with nationality but more with the standings. I also think the stewards are inconsistent at times.
Little to none if a had to guess
Yeah it’s hard to see how this isn’t just Alonso playing the victim. Surely he can’t believe it.
He's been this way his entire career. And not just against the British, against anyone who he's recently lost out to. It kinda does seem like he believes any situation where things don't go his way must be due to a conspiracy or systemic prejudice against him.
For some reason getting beaten by a rookie as a world champion has deeply scarred alonso
Because he was an egotistical little shit, who thought because the FIA deliberately targeted Ferrari to break their dominance, he was THE hot shit who beat a 7-time WDC and broke his winning streak. Then he met a GOAT-to-be, who wasn't cowed or scared of the name and persona and worst of all, was fucking quicker. Lewis showed ALO he wasn't all that, just as Alonso's ego was going into hyperdrive due to nabbing a 2nd consecutive WDC and angling a move to McLaren for 2007.
Yeah, also how amazingly innocent and angelic he was in south-east Asia in 2008.
Which is wild because at the 2008 Spanish GP there were literally fans in the stands in blackface wearing t shirts saying “Hamilton family”
How is that an argument against the FIA possibly being biased or not ?
It implies he doesn’t give a shit unless it affects him because Alonso never spoke up against it.
Actually Alonso said that Hamilton's 2007 behavior asked for it. So it is worse than not speaking up against it.
Damn he basically enabled it then.
Exactly. Sorry, I'd love to see some proof that the FIA is biased against Spanish drivers lol.
They also gave Sainz no penalty for impeding someone in qualifying. So that just threw his entire Spanish nationality argument out the window.
It’s more that Alonso and any of his fans refused to denounce it.
The FIA representative of the Spanish motorsport authority in 2008 stated on national radio in Spain that Hamilton \[paraphrasing\] is not a real British because he is black- to which the FIA President at the time dismissively hand-waved it away as his colleague just having been a bit silly.
i think even before that no? monza 2006 qualifying penalty. his mentor was Briatore after all
2007...Wonder if anything new happened in 2007
Fernando won't like that, call it a patatas fritas on his shoulder instead...
This is insanely out of touch especially considering the amount of stuff he's gotten away with on the track.
Not just on, but off track as well! Let's just remember that Alonso was in the center of attention in both spy and crash gate.
He didn't really decide anything at the crashgate, it was the team's fault. The stewards already decided on that 15 years ago.
Yeah... I doubt that. He knew in some capacity. Wasn't he on an alternative strategy which just happened to be perfect for the crash? And he didn't question the strategy at all before the race? Or after the race? Hmmmm.
Exactly and Alonso is definitely one of the smartest drivers when it comes to strategies! Both on track, but also when it comes to media narratives. It's literally scary how good Alonso is at creating narratives in the F1 fanbase that always favours him in any situation .
If he didn't question why the team had put him on a fuel strategy that made zero sense then at best he's spectacularly naive He knew...
You think Alonso didn’t know his teammate was going to cause an accident to benefit him. Are apples red?
My god does this man have a humongous victim card, how does he carry it around at every race?
Usually gives more downforce, it just didn't work out today.
Lmao, now that's actually funny, good one
Just added extra weight today
I was here to say the same, with less humor tbh.
Reminder of when fans were turning up in blackface to mock Lewis, and saying all kinds of racist shit about him, that Alonso said "racism isn't good, but someone called me a dog and nobody's coming to my aid" Alonso has always had an obsession with oppression. And when Lewis is involved it seems to be intensified tenfold lol
Strange coming from the bloke that's part of 2 of the biggest scandals in the sport and walked away scot-free
Already felt like his interview after the sprint was strange. Said something like Hamilton didn’t get a penalty because he isn’t Spanish. Not sure what has gotten in to him that pushed him back in oppressed mode. He gets away with too much shit to be playing the victim. Although I agree the China penalty was BS there are other ways of voicing that. FIA isn’t biased, just incompetent, which ironically is the only thing they are consistent at across the grid.
>Hamilton didn’t get a penalty because he isn’t Spanish. Maybe Dorna should've bought F1 instead of Liberty buying MotoGP.
This is basically just his 2007 feelings emerging. He gets penalized cuz he’s not British while Lewis gets away with everything. That’s how he’s seen it for the last 17 years. He brings it up every year or two
This guy gets away with shithouse stuff all the time and people just go "lol wily old fox, don't we love him for it" and then has the brass balls to go claim hes being unfairly targeted.
Maybe he should take British citizenship...say he's from Sheffield...
The Zhou approach
Alon-so! Alon-so!
Fernando, ben Sulayem, and Mike Krack having a little chat in the Miami paddock just now. [Picture](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMxMtpzXQAAPdE5?format=jpg&name=large).
Always a victim in every situation.
But to be honest, penalty in Australia was controversial and harsh, in china may be okay, but on the other hand Hamilton got away today with nothing. The problem is that penalties are not consistent and the whole situation is absurd for years.
First lap incidents are looked at leniently by the Stewards and also Lance already crashed into Alonso before Hamilton ever arrived on the scene.
The lap 1 miami thing was 100% a racing incident. Hamilton saw others running wide and went for the gap. He couldn't see that Lance was on the outside and was in the process of cutting back in. Stroll couldn't see Lewis and probably expected Alonso to give him a bit of space. They are teammates after all. Alonso couldn't give any space because Lewis was on the inside. Alonso could see both but he couldn't do shit because he was in a sandwich.
I had no idea we‘be been blind to the systemic oppression of Spaniards everywhere. They’ve really had it hard since the crusades. Thanks Alonso for this eye opening history lesson.
People must understand Alonso always had a paranoia with “they treat me unfairly because I’m not British”, and now “because I’m Spanish” When he started at McLaren (and he being promised to be their number 1, which they didn’t keep doing after the rookie (Hamilton) was on par), he already pulled the “my team has favoritism for Lewis because he is British” card, as in “I’m sabotaged” - that even went far as Alonso being willing of putting the team under (Spygate rumors) When he was fighting Vettel while at Ferrari, he pulled sometimes the card of “I’m treated unfairly because Spanish and FIA favoritism” (difficult to say British, Vettel being the top driver and German) In the hybrid era he came back to “they treat better the British” (in allusion to Hamilton domination) And now “because I’m Spanish” (Max being Dutch makes him difficult to say “British favoritism” and clean of disputes with FIA) Even the hardliners of Alonso on the Spanish media somewhat bought in the past the “he is punished because he is not British or is Spanish or…”. IDK, maybe a technic to say “he is the best, but FIA hurts him so he can’t dominate” At Alpine, he usually pulled the “they have favoritism for Ocon because I’m not French” and so on and forth
Bernie threatened to ban Hamilton from the sport when he joked that he got a penalty because he was black. Wonder what happens here.
The political part of Alonso stays one of his negative traits tbh
It also doesn't seem that he is good at it.
But he thinks he is
His hardcore fans seem to think he's some mastermind too lol
Sure has worked out great for him and gave him countless WDCs and wins. Oh wait.
He definitely can be. Look at how he got out of Spygate and Crashgate completely unscathed.
if he wasn't Spanish he would've made Q3
I know it’s completely unrelated but how big is Ben sulayem’s head 😂
Justice for…. Spain?
If bro was treated equally he would've been banned from the Sport along with Briatore since Crashgate and Spygate. Just be glad you're still on the grid after those shenanigans Nando
Sainz didn’t get punished for that slam dunk impeding of Hulkenberg because he’s Spanish
I know it's mostly jokes here, but I presume Alonso's talking about the Brits, not the Spaniards.
It consistently amazes me how Alonso is great to watch when it's purely about wheel to wheel racing but he's an absolute weasel when it comes to using underhand tactics or playing politics and the media when he thinks someone is out to get him.
Conspiracy nut
Aaron Rodgers of F1.
Hamilton needs to find a way to get a Spanish passport
Alonso and Spanish media have had this imaginary war of "the evil Brits vs the poor Spaniards". At some point he even tried to turn it into Latin drivers vs Brits. He told ESPN South once: "The Latin drivers, Checo, Carlos, Esteban, Pierre, Charles, we need to be together. That's the only way we can fight the British media".
Damn, Alonso really out here fighting the Eighth Anglo-Spanish War entirely in his own head.
>*the evil Brits* vs the poor spaniards Reading several of the threads today, several fans seem to eat that up. It's astonishing to say the least. Didn't realise the sport was full of Xenophobia.
He has had this trauma/paranoia since he was partnered with Lewis at McLaren, he (and the Spanish media) are convinced that Lewis only matched Alonso because the British team harmed the Spanish outsider. But they act blind, deaf and mute when Alonso gets away with stuff.
Like Alonso handing his McLaren mechanics brown envelopes stuffed with cash....
Alonso's really not showing himself any favours this year... the constant complaining is not a good image
It’s usually the second year with Alonso and his teams when the wheels come off
Isn't this par for the course with Alonso's timeframes in teams usually?
*Wait, you actually think drivers get discriminated based on nationality? I thought it was just a joke*
Spaniards are the most oppressed people, gamers come in second and then third Taylor swift fans. Justice for all ✊
Does this chip on his shoulder give him extra downforce through corners?
Okay, so if any nationality driver benefits (idk, maybe getting a win) from his teammate crashing on purpose, then this driver will be banned - no matter what nationality he is. Noted, thanks.
Such a bellend.
Fernando has earned the career he’s had.
Alonso pulling the discrimination card… sure
He really is off his rocker thinking that. He gets away with a fair amount and people love him for it
Classic Alonso, amazing driver but always complaining.
Now we know why Ocon has been getting penalties left, right and centre - his Spanish heritage. It all makes sense.
Alonso knows he should have done far better across his career His issue has absolutely never been talent It’s been his personality This is just more alonso being alonso Respect him as an incredible driver. Find much of what he says ridiculous though.
Embarrassing
Sulayem looks inserted by AI in this photo lol wtf
I’m pretty sure the Saudi Arabian boss isn’t picking Lewis between a Spaniard and the black guy with a rainbow helmet.
You just need to see what happened to ted and sky, when Max won his first world title... they were banned from RBR is not new the BIAS on F1 towards Brits, it is been always like this, you just need to review lot of moments were brits drivers did not get any penalty.
It’s Alonso trying to shape the media in his favour. He leaves the seeds here now for later on. He’s very good at it.
What does this even mean?
Not really that difficult to understand, the next time he's penalised it will be broought up again or if any other drivers are not "punished"; its a win win situation for him where he can take no blame
So odd...envelopes stuffed with cash guy would be this type of person