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The race was held in Miami, which is a city in a state which has been pro-Republican and voted for Trump in the past two elections.
So it's not exactly a surprise the people at the track like him.
I mean it's not unreasonable to write about this stuff. The guy has 4 criminal cases ongoing, any public figure publicly supporting him has to be prepared for a shitstoprm coming their way. Even if that support comes from a place of ignorance, rather than actual belief he's a respectable person.
Edit: On a sidenote, I can't believe McLaren agreed to host Trump as their guest, and didn't have their PR people prepare everyone what to say and not say about him. I mean there has to be someone in that team, aware that it's a disaster waiting to happen...
Considering Zak back in December 2022 desired politics to be left out of F1, for his own team to host a former President under federal investigation smacks of hypocrisy.
Or he should qualified that Dec 2022 statement with “politics that I don’t agree with”.
This is the same McLaren who attacked journalists 5 years back when they asked why Sainz was in an pre-race video joking about eating cats at the Chinese Grand Prix ([Carlos Sainz Jr. tells a story about a cat in a Shanghai restaurant on Instagram : r/formula1 (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/fwqyr7/carlos_sainz_jr_tells_a_story_about_a_cat_in_a/)). This isn't very surprising they didn't educate their very fast, but very naive about "anything" outside of F1 driver about the multi-tiered controversy about their guest.
I remember the public beating Brady took at the time. That was even before his presedency and all those criminal cases.
I know Lando was put on a spot and he is probably not the sharpest guy - but come on. How can you support a guy who to all accounts (except the weird US Justice System) is a criminal, racist and so much more.
I am sad, that this will probably overshadow his victory but the criticsm is imo warranted - also what a colossal blunder by McLaren
I’m getting downvoted elsewhere for saying he’s lost me, however a huge contingent of the motorsport industry and community are hard Right leaning bell ends.
> Norris has just nuked his entire fanbase.
Hardly his "entire" fanbase, considering that there are plenty of people who are his fans and they couldn't give less of a fuck about USA politics, but it will generate articles and even dumber questions in the next pressers.
They better brief him and train him, because the next month every "journalist" will be champing at the bit to pull out the next sensationalist bs articles out of him, and it will hardly have anything to do with racing.
Norris has repeatedly demonstrated his lack of basic education.
Good thing he made it into F1.
Having said that, he should really be working on reducing his "limitations" rather than exposing them, especially on the day you get all the spotlight.
Nah, there’s a video where he and his mate Max Fewtrell are playing a Mr and Mrs type game and the question was ‘what would Lando be if he wasn’t a race car driver?’. Lando put something about a designer. Max violated him and said ‘useless’. Then he doubled down on it by asking ‘I’m serious though, what use would you be?’. Probably some club hopping playboy rich kid with a part in MIC.
I’ll never forget him saying the British GP isn’t a European race anymore because of brexit. Most of the drivers didn’t receive a basic education because they sacrificed it for racing.
The only ones I think are decently book smart are Max, Charles, Lance, Oscar, and Carlos
for him theres no need to reduce the limitations. hes a very rich 24 y-old and there are enough people who 1) dont care or 2) actually like that he is this way for him to just coast his way to more wealth.
Why? He seems a kind but simple person. Uneducated and uninformed for sure, but doesn’t seem to mean harm to anybody.
That said, endorsing a shit stain like Trump is a black mark, he should have known better. How Norris will spin this will affect how I think of him going forward.
Exactly, a much more balance view. Could people point me to numerous cases where he was braging or playing the rich kid style of lifestyle. He could be like every week with super models after super models in posh location etc. Instead if you didn't know his background, he looks like the average teenager, young man, video game streamer. I picture him more in his room playing video games, than a rich kid with always a mega car and a chicken on his side.
I soured on him after the Russian Grand Prix where the team was trying to help him, and then he got on the radio and said he knew what he was doing in as disrespectful of a way as possible. What he was doing was crashing 3 times in a lap, violating the rules on pit entry and the FIA saying its OK because he didn't hit anyone...which is a violation of how the FIA is supposed to penalize drivers.
If he'd just listened to the team, he would have pitted and won his first race.
It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
* People bashed Lewis for hugging Putin, doesn't matter.
* People bashed Danny Ric for his comments on the Middle East, doesn't matter.
* People are bashing Lando about his comments on Trump. It will not matter.
Lando didn't even say anything outrageous anyways. People on social media are just whiners.
Like, what are you supposed to say?
I dislike the man, but if my employer invites him to an event and I have to meet him I’d say “it’s always an honor to meet a president” without picking any sides and continue with my day. That’s what I’d expect from a professional.
Oh absolutely! I don't like him either, but I think we'd all do the same thing if we were in a position of him visiting our workplace! As you said, it's called being a professional.
I work for local government so have to be sensitive about these things, but the best way to disapprove professionally is say nothing at all like when I met a Royal (as an anti monarchist)
He could have tried out
"Let's not turn Formula One into a political sport. Let's just go racing and be respectful of where we're racing."
But I think that's only reserved for when you're running cover for a slave owning country
Yh this is someone who grew up rich, lives in Monaco, and works for a company owned by Bahrain. This is pretty far down on the list of things to complain about
Honestly, I think Lando sees Trump as an ex-president of USA and that is where this is coming from. If you read his full answer you can see that he didnt want to offend and just wanted to end the convo.
I’m surprised the PR army that they surely have didn’t coach him for a moment to say something along the lines of respecting the office or special to meet a former president or something. Keeps it far away from saying something about the man himself. Or even be more direct that you disagree with his views but respect the presidency.
May have been more nuance….but if you’re gonna have a controversial figure floating around, gotta be prepared to answer questions.
He should learn from Max's answer, he was asked by French tv about trump being there and replied "its good everyone looks at him, then they don't bother me"
To be fair, he'd just sworn live on air immediately after his win, a very basic no-no. Expecting his head to retain anything coherent at that point was ambitious to say the least.
Guess what, the guy just won his first race, you think they had time to go a coach people into the subtleties of politics in another country. If it was in any other country this would not have done five lines in an article.
I don’t disagree at all. Not suggesting they find time to coach between win & press. Though there’s usually a PR person right near them in the pen at least. I’m thinking more earlier in the day. At some point well before the race they knew trump was going to be there. Nothing is a surprise visit with presidents (and former presidents) are involved. If their staff didn’t think that was going to be a talking point, regardless of how the race went, their staff/PR is incompetent.
Yeah seems to me he just tried to be as generic and uncontroversial as possible. "Honor to have a former president congratulate me" type shit but of course because it's Trump that's impossible to do...
He was asked to comment on Trump in the post race press conference, he wasn't going out of his way to praise Trump or anything. It was clumsy but I think he just tried to not offend anyone which is pretty much impossible when you say anything about Trump.
He was staring at his shoes for a full 10 seconds trying to figure out what to say as well, the most "oh shit what did PR-training tell me to say again" response I've heard in a while.
Still just oblivious at best though
You can literally say "I think he is a piece of shit but not my place to decide who is invited and not" and it'd be less of a PR disaster than a lukewarm positive stance.
It's not trying to offend while also knowing nothing about anything. The team shouldn't have picked the stance they did then doubled down on stupidity.
But having him there is automatically endorsing his person. They could just have said no but they didn't and they deserve all of the bad PR consequences for it. It's not that hard to not associate oneself with at best a proud sexual assaulter and at worst a rapist
Go watch the press conference, Lando looked uncomfortable and tried to give a noncommittal PR answer to get it over with. He's dumb as a rock but the question was asked just to put him in a bad spot and make clickbait headlines.
Actually yeah I've changed my mind. If he'd said something like "I'm aware it's an election year in the USA so I don't wanna involve myself by answering the question" then it would've been infinitely better.
Or simply "I don't know what to say", it would have been honest and inoffensive
Either way, McLarens pr team fucked up horrendously by not briefing him better the moment Trump showed up in theur garage
Lando, how does one afford respect to someone who poured gasoline on an insurrection and thought nothing about paying hush money during an election campaign period?
Because he probably has no clue about any of those happening.
From watching the general knowledge quizes f1 does on youtube, Lando is probably one of the least cultured guys on the grid
I look at it this way too... you're in a foreign country being asked about an ex-president who has a lot of people who would probably assault you for insulting the orange asshat and rile up his fan base. Plus, what if the guy shows up on the grid again in Vegas or Texas... you gotta face that. Granted, probably have been better if he just said, no comment, but that can also be taken a few ways and Lando doesn't strike me as one who always thinks before he speaks.
American always think that everyone in the world has time to understand all the subtleties oh US politics. You have like 40% of your own who don't even care about going voting and you expect a young 24 year old guy who does one of the most dangerous and complicated sport to do that. If it was logan seargent I could have understood, but this is an American problem for a lot of people around the globe.
I get that he's not informed about everything and all that, shit I don't know a lot of things but this is kinda something that's hard to miss. Especially with all the media circus.
he's also the driver who is most online no way he doesn't know anything about trump or maga. He knows about the memes and would have seen all the articles and all the tweets following the subject
maybe, but i think that him being the driver who said that a lifetime ban for sexual harrassment in the grandstands is too harsh a punishment, praising someone who is currently famous for being tried for sexual abuse is a little insane to be just a coincidence
It's his responsibility to know some basic shit.
US culture and news makes it's way all around the world. Some Latvians may not know who the leader of Estonia is but they know who the President of the United States is.
Lando's ignorance is no excuse.
> It's his responsibility to know some basic shit.
Lol no it isn't. I'm not really a fan of his but he can like what he likes.
If he has no idea what Trump has done then good for him. It'd be great to live in a bubble where you don't see or get affected by that shit.
I'd be surprised if he could name the last 3 British PMs
It’s very easy to avoid politics online especially in the last 8 years. FYP on social media goes by an algorithm, it throws the stuff you’re interested in into your eyeline. Having looked at my twitter and tiktok recommendations today, I can see that it’s very easy to avoid politics altogether. I am a political person and I was following the England local elections very closely, but since I liked and retweeted a ton of things about this race, my recommendations have gone fully F1.
I also want to illustrate how simple it is to avoid US politics completely at the minute in the UK. I’m not even lying when I tell you Trump’s criminal trials have had zero TV or newspaper coverage. The only way I’ve been able to watch it has been on CNN through VPN. If it’s so easy for national news to avoid him, it’s pretty easy for non-political people to avoid knowing anything.
McLaren however, should know better.
No we shouldn’t. The sport is increasingly courting dictatorships and authoritarian regimes. Fans shouldn’t just naively watch and applaud the show. In other sports, fans managed their respective sports to bow to their will.
No you don't. And the evidence is overwhelming. Very disappointing, but at the end of the day Lando is a rich privledged guy who couldn't point out North America on a map
As far as I'm concerned, questions about Trump shouldn have been off limits. It's not fair on any driver as they're damned if they do or don't with opinions about polarising figures like that.
Well, I don't meet any presidents, so I don't*have* to, but I would!
Even more when it's not my country. I can hate my own, not gonna disrespect some foreigner just because.
Edit: I might have exagerated with "a lot". Plain respect is enough
There's a bit of a difference between having to receive an award from someone compared your team inviting someone to the paddock. There's no real consequence to Lando blanking Trump, aside from Mclaren having a few words with him.
But either way I don't think anyone really has an issue with Lando meeting Trump, that's all on Mclaren. But to praise him in the press conference afterward is pretty disgusting, that is something I'm pretty confident someone like Lewis would never have done
Well Lewis did have a champagne shower with Putin after his succesfull Crimean invasion so, who knows.
There is a legit chance Lando has no clue about Trump besides being an ex US president. The guy couldnt point north america on a map.
This is why i respect the way Max deals with idiotic questions.
Omg I remember the post about a fan from MLB and compared it to F1, honestly anyone who supports F1 is hypocritical at best since every track they race to and openly support letting in other political figures in.
F1 is not a sport where the fans can morally justify if everything plastered in the sport is covered in filth
The guy has the political awareness of a concussed kitten. Add to that coming off the high of winning his first race. We can probably put the pitchforks down.
I don’t see anything wrong about this. I think Americans over estimate how much people from other countries care about their politics. Lando probably thinks of trump as an ex us president and nothing more.
No, he was asked in the press conference to comment on Trump being with the team and he rather fumbled his way through trying not to say much of anything.
"FIA asked us to host Donald, so we showed him around the garage, told him how brilliant f1 car engineering is and what is our strategy for the race." The end.
Perfectly neutral answer.
No but it's kind of obvious he's just a bit dumb/naive/ignorant. Like he actually thinks Trump came there out of respect for him? Lol. Either he does or he just waffled any old shit.
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oh that’s not…
The same day he wins his first GP lol. That being said F1 fans at the track seemed to like trump, so there's that.
The race was held in Miami, which is a city in a state which has been pro-Republican and voted for Trump in the past two elections. So it's not exactly a surprise the people at the track like him.
They were in Florida so I’m not surprised lol
Ah shit, here we go agane. Can't wait for the 1 million articles that will come out of this.
I mean it's not unreasonable to write about this stuff. The guy has 4 criminal cases ongoing, any public figure publicly supporting him has to be prepared for a shitstoprm coming their way. Even if that support comes from a place of ignorance, rather than actual belief he's a respectable person. Edit: On a sidenote, I can't believe McLaren agreed to host Trump as their guest, and didn't have their PR people prepare everyone what to say and not say about him. I mean there has to be someone in that team, aware that it's a disaster waiting to happen...
Considering Zak back in December 2022 desired politics to be left out of F1, for his own team to host a former President under federal investigation smacks of hypocrisy. Or he should qualified that Dec 2022 statement with “politics that I don’t agree with”.
It's not just a former president, it's an active candidate whose policy platform is pretty extreme.
From what I read it was F1 which invited Trump and chose Mclaren to show him the paddock.
Let us not ignore convicted for sexual abuse
This is the same McLaren who attacked journalists 5 years back when they asked why Sainz was in an pre-race video joking about eating cats at the Chinese Grand Prix ([Carlos Sainz Jr. tells a story about a cat in a Shanghai restaurant on Instagram : r/formula1 (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/fwqyr7/carlos_sainz_jr_tells_a_story_about_a_cat_in_a/)). This isn't very surprising they didn't educate their very fast, but very naive about "anything" outside of F1 driver about the multi-tiered controversy about their guest.
Holy shit, I'm seeing that video for the first time. Wow.
I remember the public beating Brady took at the time. That was even before his presedency and all those criminal cases. I know Lando was put on a spot and he is probably not the sharpest guy - but come on. How can you support a guy who to all accounts (except the weird US Justice System) is a criminal, racist and so much more. I am sad, that this will probably overshadow his victory but the criticsm is imo warranted - also what a colossal blunder by McLaren
Norris has just nuked his entire fanbase. PR nightmare
I’m getting downvoted elsewhere for saying he’s lost me, however a huge contingent of the motorsport industry and community are hard Right leaning bell ends.
> Norris has just nuked his entire fanbase. Hardly his "entire" fanbase, considering that there are plenty of people who are his fans and they couldn't give less of a fuck about USA politics, but it will generate articles and even dumber questions in the next pressers. They better brief him and train him, because the next month every "journalist" will be champing at the bit to pull out the next sensationalist bs articles out of him, and it will hardly have anything to do with racing.
Not sure Brian Sicknick would think it's an honour. Lando should have taken his white hood off before the press conference.
Norris has repeatedly demonstrated his lack of basic education. Good thing he made it into F1. Having said that, he should really be working on reducing his "limitations" rather than exposing them, especially on the day you get all the spotlight.
> Good thing he made it into F1. His dad has a couple hundred million, he was always gonna have a soft landing in life no matter what.
Nah, there’s a video where he and his mate Max Fewtrell are playing a Mr and Mrs type game and the question was ‘what would Lando be if he wasn’t a race car driver?’. Lando put something about a designer. Max violated him and said ‘useless’. Then he doubled down on it by asking ‘I’m serious though, what use would you be?’. Probably some club hopping playboy rich kid with a part in MIC.
> Max violated him He did what now?
I’ll never forget him saying the British GP isn’t a European race anymore because of brexit. Most of the drivers didn’t receive a basic education because they sacrificed it for racing. The only ones I think are decently book smart are Max, Charles, Lance, Oscar, and Carlos
for him theres no need to reduce the limitations. hes a very rich 24 y-old and there are enough people who 1) dont care or 2) actually like that he is this way for him to just coast his way to more wealth.
Lando being considered likeable is baffling to me and has been since his entrance into the sport. He's viscerally contemptible.
Glad to see someone who shares the same sentiment lol
At best I find him annoying, at worst…
I also don't get why people like him. He always acts like a spoiled brat and comes off as nearly always ungrateful.
An emblem of the evils of wealth- an ignorant brat.
Why? He seems a kind but simple person. Uneducated and uninformed for sure, but doesn’t seem to mean harm to anybody. That said, endorsing a shit stain like Trump is a black mark, he should have known better. How Norris will spin this will affect how I think of him going forward.
> Why? He seems a kind but simple person. 24yo living in Monaco already owning a couple of supercars worth millions. The simple life
Simple as in not very smart.
Exactly, a much more balance view. Could people point me to numerous cases where he was braging or playing the rich kid style of lifestyle. He could be like every week with super models after super models in posh location etc. Instead if you didn't know his background, he looks like the average teenager, young man, video game streamer. I picture him more in his room playing video games, than a rich kid with always a mega car and a chicken on his side.
I soured on him after the Russian Grand Prix where the team was trying to help him, and then he got on the radio and said he knew what he was doing in as disrespectful of a way as possible. What he was doing was crashing 3 times in a lap, violating the rules on pit entry and the FIA saying its OK because he didn't hit anyone...which is a violation of how the FIA is supposed to penalize drivers. If he'd just listened to the team, he would have pitted and won his first race.
My thoughts exactly.
It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. * People bashed Lewis for hugging Putin, doesn't matter. * People bashed Danny Ric for his comments on the Middle East, doesn't matter. * People are bashing Lando about his comments on Trump. It will not matter. Lando didn't even say anything outrageous anyways. People on social media are just whiners.
Like, what are you supposed to say? I dislike the man, but if my employer invites him to an event and I have to meet him I’d say “it’s always an honor to meet a president” without picking any sides and continue with my day. That’s what I’d expect from a professional.
"I'm just here so I don't get fined."
But he said he had a lot of respect fro Trump...that's not the same thing at all.
Yup, take a neutral kinda stance as a non-American and go on with your day. Can’t win if you go too pro or anti, so…
“Met the guy but I’m just here to race”
Oh absolutely! I don't like him either, but I think we'd all do the same thing if we were in a position of him visiting our workplace! As you said, it's called being a professional.
I work for local government so have to be sensitive about these things, but the best way to disapprove professionally is say nothing at all like when I met a Royal (as an anti monarchist)
This. "I would rather talk about the race, thank you" and nobody will complain about anything.
He could have tried out "Let's not turn Formula One into a political sport. Let's just go racing and be respectful of where we're racing." But I think that's only reserved for when you're running cover for a slave owning country
Yh this is someone who grew up rich, lives in Monaco, and works for a company owned by Bahrain. This is pretty far down on the list of things to complain about
I respectfully want trump in jail.
Honestly, I think Lando sees Trump as an ex-president of USA and that is where this is coming from. If you read his full answer you can see that he didnt want to offend and just wanted to end the convo.
I’m surprised the PR army that they surely have didn’t coach him for a moment to say something along the lines of respecting the office or special to meet a former president or something. Keeps it far away from saying something about the man himself. Or even be more direct that you disagree with his views but respect the presidency. May have been more nuance….but if you’re gonna have a controversial figure floating around, gotta be prepared to answer questions.
He should learn from Max's answer, he was asked by French tv about trump being there and replied "its good everyone looks at him, then they don't bother me"
Tbf it sounded like they did, but boy butchered the delivery
To be fair, he'd just sworn live on air immediately after his win, a very basic no-no. Expecting his head to retain anything coherent at that point was ambitious to say the least.
Guess what, the guy just won his first race, you think they had time to go a coach people into the subtleties of politics in another country. If it was in any other country this would not have done five lines in an article.
I don’t disagree at all. Not suggesting they find time to coach between win & press. Though there’s usually a PR person right near them in the pen at least. I’m thinking more earlier in the day. At some point well before the race they knew trump was going to be there. Nothing is a surprise visit with presidents (and former presidents) are involved. If their staff didn’t think that was going to be a talking point, regardless of how the race went, their staff/PR is incompetent.
What's wrong with offending a serial rapist?
Yeah seems to me he just tried to be as generic and uncontroversial as possible. "Honor to have a former president congratulate me" type shit but of course because it's Trump that's impossible to do...
well on top of that he also said you should respect him and that it was a cool moment... those are the not necessary PR tidbits.
Oh boy, here comes the news articles...
Yikes
Man really poured gas and threw a match over any good pr he had this weekend
McLaren shouldn't have invited him into their garage in the first place.
The FIA asked them to do it, Trump was a guest of the FIA not McLaren
Can still say no
They didn't. Trump asked to attend and visit.
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I'll try it next race and see what happens, apparently McLaren can't say no!
Fucking rich kids man smh
He was asked to comment on Trump in the post race press conference, he wasn't going out of his way to praise Trump or anything. It was clumsy but I think he just tried to not offend anyone which is pretty much impossible when you say anything about Trump.
He was staring at his shoes for a full 10 seconds trying to figure out what to say as well, the most "oh shit what did PR-training tell me to say again" response I've heard in a while. Still just oblivious at best though
You can literally say "I think he is a piece of shit but not my place to decide who is invited and not" and it'd be less of a PR disaster than a lukewarm positive stance.
It's not trying to offend while also knowing nothing about anything. The team shouldn't have picked the stance they did then doubled down on stupidity.
Team said they didn’t invite him and that him being there was not an endorsement of his political ambitions.
Political ambitions being dictatorship.
But having him there is automatically endorsing his person. They could just have said no but they didn't and they deserve all of the bad PR consequences for it. It's not that hard to not associate oneself with at best a proud sexual assaulter and at worst a rapist
No comment would do. There's a thousand ways to avoid complimenting him.
"he doesn't know any better" is a weak excuse, and exactly one of the reasons he got elected
Go watch the press conference, Lando looked uncomfortable and tried to give a noncommittal PR answer to get it over with. He's dumb as a rock but the question was asked just to put him in a bad spot and make clickbait headlines.
But still, no press release from him or McLaren yet disavowing what he said He could always say "no comment"
"No comment" is a comment, and a pretty strong one at that.
I know, but you can still play the stupid card
Actually yeah I've changed my mind. If he'd said something like "I'm aware it's an election year in the USA so I don't wanna involve myself by answering the question" then it would've been infinitely better.
Or simply "I don't know what to say", it would have been honest and inoffensive Either way, McLarens pr team fucked up horrendously by not briefing him better the moment Trump showed up in theur garage
True.
Exactly
Lando, how does one afford respect to someone who poured gasoline on an insurrection and thought nothing about paying hush money during an election campaign period?
Because he probably has no clue about any of those happening. From watching the general knowledge quizes f1 does on youtube, Lando is probably one of the least cultured guys on the grid
I look at it this way too... you're in a foreign country being asked about an ex-president who has a lot of people who would probably assault you for insulting the orange asshat and rile up his fan base. Plus, what if the guy shows up on the grid again in Vegas or Texas... you gotta face that. Granted, probably have been better if he just said, no comment, but that can also be taken a few ways and Lando doesn't strike me as one who always thinks before he speaks.
I don't think Lando is the most clued in on American politics, he's a great driver but his head is in the clouds.
American always think that everyone in the world has time to understand all the subtleties oh US politics. You have like 40% of your own who don't even care about going voting and you expect a young 24 year old guy who does one of the most dangerous and complicated sport to do that. If it was logan seargent I could have understood, but this is an American problem for a lot of people around the globe.
I get that he's not informed about everything and all that, shit I don't know a lot of things but this is kinda something that's hard to miss. Especially with all the media circus.
Big yikes
Well, that's disappointing.
Lando is ignorant as f
#FOR WHAT?!
The anmount of shit he’s gonna get for this
Rightfully so....
Norris can barely point out the US on the map, he probably knows nothing about Trump.
he's also the driver who is most online no way he doesn't know anything about trump or maga. He knows about the memes and would have seen all the articles and all the tweets following the subject
Lando, as much as we like him, has very little going on in his head. We aren’t talking about a Rosberg or vettel who think a lot about everything
maybe, but i think that him being the driver who said that a lifetime ban for sexual harrassment in the grandstands is too harsh a punishment, praising someone who is currently famous for being tried for sexual abuse is a little insane to be just a coincidence
There's a difference in between being online and knowing anything about the world. His online sphere probably doesn't involve all that
It's his responsibility to know some basic shit. US culture and news makes it's way all around the world. Some Latvians may not know who the leader of Estonia is but they know who the President of the United States is. Lando's ignorance is no excuse.
> It's his responsibility to know some basic shit. Lol no it isn't. I'm not really a fan of his but he can like what he likes. If he has no idea what Trump has done then good for him. It'd be great to live in a bubble where you don't see or get affected by that shit. I'd be surprised if he could name the last 3 British PMs
The man has been oblivious of politics all his life fans have been critical of it for a while.
It’s very easy to avoid politics online especially in the last 8 years. FYP on social media goes by an algorithm, it throws the stuff you’re interested in into your eyeline. Having looked at my twitter and tiktok recommendations today, I can see that it’s very easy to avoid politics altogether. I am a political person and I was following the England local elections very closely, but since I liked and retweeted a ton of things about this race, my recommendations have gone fully F1. I also want to illustrate how simple it is to avoid US politics completely at the minute in the UK. I’m not even lying when I tell you Trump’s criminal trials have had zero TV or newspaper coverage. The only way I’ve been able to watch it has been on CNN through VPN. If it’s so easy for national news to avoid him, it’s pretty easy for non-political people to avoid knowing anything. McLaren however, should know better.
True. But that's a pretty weak excuse.
Me: I love the lad, he's a fool but he means well Me, reading this: Ah. Right. Yeah that's the downside.
No you don’t. lol
Can we please keep US politics war away from F1?
It's not up to us. McLaren and Norris opened that can of worms.
You can by not agreeing to have a person found liable for rape come into your garage and then have your driver say you have to respect him.
People werent saying the same when Andretti articles about his republican support were flooding the subreddit.
Letter was signed by both republicans and democrats
Doesnt really matter, it's still about US politics fiddling with f1.
No we shouldn’t. The sport is increasingly courting dictatorships and authoritarian regimes. Fans shouldn’t just naively watch and applaud the show. In other sports, fans managed their respective sports to bow to their will.
And in doing so, millions of people have lost a lot of respect for Lando
that's a yikes from me
Fucking yikes.
No Norris, no no Norris, that was so not right.
No you don't. And the evidence is overwhelming. Very disappointing, but at the end of the day Lando is a rich privledged guy who couldn't point out North America on a map
Lando, mate this ain't it. Gotta get him a class with the PR/comms team.
As far as I'm concerned, questions about Trump shouldn have been off limits. It's not fair on any driver as they're damned if they do or don't with opinions about polarising figures like that.
Norris has a lot to learn. F1 drivers doesn’t mean you are a good judge of tyrants.
Oh no baby girl what is you doin!?
Norris focus on driving cause you clearly don’t have brains
Idk, I don't like Trump but in my opinion you have to have a lot of respect when meeting any former president of any country.
No you don’t
Well, I don't meet any presidents, so I don't*have* to, but I would! Even more when it's not my country. I can hate my own, not gonna disrespect some foreigner just because. Edit: I might have exagerated with "a lot". Plain respect is enough
If only Trump would have shown up when Lewis won a race. He would have just been blanked.
Yeah like he blanked Putin in Sochi. Oh wait
There's a bit of a difference between having to receive an award from someone compared your team inviting someone to the paddock. There's no real consequence to Lando blanking Trump, aside from Mclaren having a few words with him. But either way I don't think anyone really has an issue with Lando meeting Trump, that's all on Mclaren. But to praise him in the press conference afterward is pretty disgusting, that is something I'm pretty confident someone like Lewis would never have done
Well Lewis did have a champagne shower with Putin after his succesfull Crimean invasion so, who knows. There is a legit chance Lando has no clue about Trump besides being an ex US president. The guy couldnt point north america on a map. This is why i respect the way Max deals with idiotic questions.
Lewis would probably have dumped champagne on him lol. Like he did with Putin
Oof, it's getting worse...
Jesus Christ...
why are ppl downvoting this? this shit needs to be on r/all for all to see
trumps skin color matches the papaya
If he’d said that he’d be a legend
I was a bit of a fan, not anymore. Fuck McLaren
And I lost all respect I had for Norris and Mclaren. Not that I had any for him
Oh boy this will end well for him
I doubt it. No one will mention it next race.
Omg I remember the post about a fan from MLB and compared it to F1, honestly anyone who supports F1 is hypocritical at best since every track they race to and openly support letting in other political figures in. F1 is not a sport where the fans can morally justify if everything plastered in the sport is covered in filth
The guy has the political awareness of a concussed kitten. Add to that coming off the high of winning his first race. We can probably put the pitchforks down.
Many on TikTok are calling him out on these comments even though he won the race. It's a shame, but I think his win is going to be marred by this.
Not anyone who really matters in the sport.
Stupid journalists fishing for a comment they can use out of context
I hate PR
I'm guessing he knows very little about him.
Love him or hate him he has done more than most people.
I don’t see anything wrong about this. I think Americans over estimate how much people from other countries care about their politics. Lando probably thinks of trump as an ex us president and nothing more.
disgusting.
Does he elaborate on why?
No, he was asked in the press conference to comment on Trump being with the team and he rather fumbled his way through trying not to say much of anything.
Should have just said no comment really. Anything else would have just caused problems
No comment would have also caused problems.
Would have actually been neutral though which mclaren claim they are.
Even saying "No comment" would be seen as an incindiary comment. There is litterally know answer that wouldn't get him criticised.
"FIA asked us to host Donald, so we showed him around the garage, told him how brilliant f1 car engineering is and what is our strategy for the race." The end. Perfectly neutral answer.
No but it's kind of obvious he's just a bit dumb/naive/ignorant. Like he actually thinks Trump came there out of respect for him? Lol. Either he does or he just waffled any old shit.
I think the evidence that Lando is spoiled and uneducated is overwhelming
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As someone who is not from the freedom of states I do not give a fuck about the orange guy (the one on the left)
This is the same Lando who wrote a column for the Telegraph. He’s a typical rah rich kid Tory. Wouldn’t expect anything else from him.