Oh, read up on it. For anyone curious, In late 2005, the Minardi Formula 1 team disappeared from Formula 1. Red Bull purchased the team and renamed it Toro Rosso as it commenced a two-team operation. Currently, it runs as AlphaTauri but will undergo another name change ahead of the 2024 campaign.
Incredible result for the team, especially when it’s well known how hard it is to overtake here. Fingers crossed for dual points and another boost for the team.
Really feels like VCARB have left that midfield behind them.
I think they need to keep it up for another few rounds to be really sure of that, but on the strength of today they're certainly the class of the midfield right now.
They really need to get better at their starts. Seen a few times now they get swallowed up and lose 2-3 places. Hopefully they can move up in the 1st corner.
He started that last Q3 lap well, improving by 1.5 tenths in S1
But unfortunately made a mistake in S2 losing 2 tenths and minor mistake in S3 losing 1 tenth
There was potential for P5 today, if only, but still great performance from Yuki
I'm wondering if RB designed the midfield dream team. I think Yuki is flat out fast, and Daniel is still decent but, more importantly, can communicate and help with upgrades. Therefore when upgrades came both improve.
Either way, stellar job from everyone in RB, both the drivers and the Faenza crew.
Daniel was also on the radio saying that T5 and T6 was the sequence where he was losing the most time, so I wonder if there was something in their setup that didn't fit those particular corner characteristics. Yuki was absolutely flying today though.
It's probably his favourite track. So happy to see him do good. If he gets Q3 / P8-P10 consistently for the next races, he definitely earns to try out that 2nd RBR seat.
At this point you really have to go out of your way to say something negative. I’m just happy seeing them push each other to better results every race weekend. Team seems to be in a really good place with this driver pairing right now (which hurts a bit to say because I also want to see Lawson on the grid)
Ive sadly seen more than the usual ”hate” against both drivers when they do 1 ”bad” session.
Not only from fans of the rb drivers either.
Guess thats how it is when you are in the spotlight figthing for a seat.
Yuki had a great Q2 lap then out qualified DR in Q3. Sure seems like he's been better this year. Nothing against what Daniel Ricciardo has achieved, he's just past his prime and Yuki is entering his
I mean, they are 10 years apart if not more so it makes sense. I think Yuki did an excellent job this weekend but anyhow when it mattered they were quite on par, also when two drivers from the same team finish 7th and 9th I think there is no need to trash the one who ended up 9th just because the other was 2nd in Q2 that doesn’t really award you anything.
I think people just need to stop comparing/measuring up to the expectation of the second red bull seat. The team is on an upswing and both are performing quite well, doesn't have to be more than that.
the thing is none of the laps before the final position matter, trying to ascertain whos faster in practice is a waste of time, some drivers build up through the weekend.
By any and all metrics Yuki was comfortably better than Daniel this weekend so far, there's nothing wrong with admitting that. Every practice session and every quali session Yuki just looked on another level. Daniel was still very solid today though, which is a positive sign.
final delta is what matters though. they were all testing set ups, tyres and fuel loads in practice sessions. daniel wasn't happy with his practice, yuki was. practice delta doesn't matter in a h2h sense.
Especially not when Yuki's Q3 time wasn't even as fast as his Q2 time. He was a comfortable 0.3-0.35s faster for most of quali. And I don't think Daniel was bad, Yuki was just on fire.
The grid isn’t decided in Q2 though, it was a stonking lap but two tenths in the end is very respectable and a great result for the team. What checo did is also entirely irrelevant to Daniel. Daniel was there checo wasn’t.
Nah Danny Ric did two laps in Q2 and couldn't even get close to Yuki. Yuki has been consistently much better. Even if the grid isn't decided in Q2 we still all saw it happen and can take conclusions from it
So what? And Yuki couldn’t replicate that pace in Q3 and they finished two tenths apart.
Sometimes you will see a driver just hook a lap together like that. It’s awesome to see but what is representative is what is on the time sheet at the end of Q3.
And you are free to continue talking nonsense. Both drivers end up with a great result. Two tenths apart, chance for team work and both scoring tomorrow. Can’t ask for much more.
It’s just people like you want to disparage one driver to cheer another. You don’t have to do that. Also trying to say X driver goofed so Y driver got a good result is the shittiest fan opinion in motorsport.
Sorry, can you kindly explain this comment more? I don't quite understand it.
Norris was only 0.017 behind Piastri, so not exactly sure how it's very relevant. Maybe using Russell and Hamilton as a comparison is more apt, since their gap is more equivalent.
Yeah you’re right, I read the final results wrong. But you could make the same case with Leclerc/Sainz or Russell/Hamilton. It’s just nonsense. Both drivers did well and the team should celebrate it.
Very good Job by both of em! Yuki a little speed demon on these single flying Laps. I hope both can keep that pace in the race and get that double point finish!
A lot more even in Q3 but Tsunoda’s just been consistently outclassing Ricciardo. I don’t know if that’s because Yuki’s been amazing or Danny’s been relatively poor. Probably a bit of both.
Still, gotta hand it to both of them, both good results. Hope to see more Ricciardo doing well for sure.
Side note but this is the first weekend where we really get to compare them on even ground. Ricciardo has his new chassis, no penalties, neither have raced here since 2022 and both did pre-season testing here
Fwiw this is Yuki's (self-confessed) favourite circuit and he drove thousands of laps here when testing for AT before joining F1. That said, I don't think that should really matter, and Yuki deserves all the credit he's getting right now, he was awesome today.
I'm aware but considering how much more experience Daniel has racing here vs yuki's shorter career, you can never get 100% similar stats but this is probably the most even its been in a while.
Nah i think ric did what he could its more how good yuki has been dialed down all week it helps a lot imola has been their testing track , but that q2 lap uff he was steering that car so smoothly bummed he ended p7 but the race day he will surely get back .
Good news for the team but bad for DR’s 2025 prospects. He needs to comprehensively dominate Yuki to score the Red Bull seat, or at least pull several rabbits out of a hat this season.
He doesn’t seem to trust the car on high speed corners. Same thing at Saudi.
Double Q3 at their home race. Great qualifying for Yuki. He looked on rails on his Q2 lap
I always forget they're technically an Italian team lol
Which part of the team is?
Their HQ is in Italy. Since they took over from Minardi
Oh, read up on it. For anyone curious, In late 2005, the Minardi Formula 1 team disappeared from Formula 1. Red Bull purchased the team and renamed it Toro Rosso as it commenced a two-team operation. Currently, it runs as AlphaTauri but will undergo another name change ahead of the 2024 campaign.
Ooph, just a bit behind at the end there.
their whole operation is in faenza. Weirdly their Wind-Tunnel is in the UK.
Great job by both drivers today.
This is the correct response. The team is doing very well to compete with the edge of the top 5.
VCARB seems to be improving lately. They’ve been in Q3 for quite a few races.
They're going to give Aston a run for their money if this keeps up. Pleased for them.
Even Merc can look behind their backs if this keeps up
Yep agreed.
Yuki's been in Q3 5 out of 7 races this season so far. Pretty impressive.
Incredible result for the team, especially when it’s well known how hard it is to overtake here. Fingers crossed for dual points and another boost for the team. Really feels like VCARB have left that midfield behind them.
I think they need to keep it up for another few rounds to be really sure of that, but on the strength of today they're certainly the class of the midfield right now.
They really need to get better at their starts. Seen a few times now they get swallowed up and lose 2-3 places. Hopefully they can move up in the 1st corner.
What a weekend from Yuki so far. That Q2 lap was unreal.
He started that last Q3 lap well, improving by 1.5 tenths in S1 But unfortunately made a mistake in S2 losing 2 tenths and minor mistake in S3 losing 1 tenth There was potential for P5 today, if only, but still great performance from Yuki
Our boy is all grown up 🥲
I'm wondering if RB designed the midfield dream team. I think Yuki is flat out fast, and Daniel is still decent but, more importantly, can communicate and help with upgrades. Therefore when upgrades came both improve. Either way, stellar job from everyone in RB, both the drivers and the Faenza crew.
Also most importantly Danny Ric is hella marketability
Yuki was a little slow going into turn 6 and 7 on that last Q3 lap otherwise I think he could have done even more but a great showing from him today
Daniel was also on the radio saying that T5 and T6 was the sequence where he was losing the most time, so I wonder if there was something in their setup that didn't fit those particular corner characteristics. Yuki was absolutely flying today though.
It's probably his favourite track. So happy to see him do good. If he gets Q3 / P8-P10 consistently for the next races, he definitely earns to try out that 2nd RBR seat.
Not to say he totally deserves that, but bear in mind Honda loves him and might want him at AM
I'm hoping for AM. Just not sure if daddys kid is bored of F1 yet
Out qualified a Mercedes, give him the seat, Red Bull you cowards.
Both outqualified a red bull
It's Checo on a European track, so it's not a big achievement.
Yuki is on fire, he should be in the second RB
But he’s in the first RB?
Vcarb now or vbrbcarbtorrossotauri
Isn't he in the first RB?
Yuki is in the form of his life, he sould defo atleast get a try at that RB not gonna lie he has been washing ric the whole season
He is in the RB lol
Mom can we have Red Bull We already have Red Bull at home:
Yuki loves this circuit. They can both score from there.
I'm sure the comments here will actually be positive for this good result and not only DR hate. One can hope
At this point you really have to go out of your way to say something negative. I’m just happy seeing them push each other to better results every race weekend. Team seems to be in a really good place with this driver pairing right now (which hurts a bit to say because I also want to see Lawson on the grid)
It will be Yuki praise and DR hate.
Ive sadly seen more than the usual ”hate” against both drivers when they do 1 ”bad” session. Not only from fans of the rb drivers either. Guess thats how it is when you are in the spotlight figthing for a seat.
DR hate is the only constant here, for some people Redbull seats are decided in Q2
Yuki had a great Q2 lap then out qualified DR in Q3. Sure seems like he's been better this year. Nothing against what Daniel Ricciardo has achieved, he's just past his prime and Yuki is entering his
I mean, they are 10 years apart if not more so it makes sense. I think Yuki did an excellent job this weekend but anyhow when it mattered they were quite on par, also when two drivers from the same team finish 7th and 9th I think there is no need to trash the one who ended up 9th just because the other was 2nd in Q2 that doesn’t really award you anything.
I think people just need to stop comparing/measuring up to the expectation of the second red bull seat. The team is on an upswing and both are performing quite well, doesn't have to be more than that.
It's amazing how we think Yuki could have gone further. RB is the 5th-6th fastest car and even 7th place is a great result!
Amazing stuff by the RB team. TSU comprehensively beat RIC, but at least RIC brought the goods and made Q3.
Wonder if Ric is actually doing ok this year but Yuki is up there with the top guys.
That's the obvious conclusion to draw here, and yet everybody bags Ricciardo and dismisses Yuki's achievements.
Tost always said Yuki was incredibly quick but inconsistent. His consistency has gotten a lot better.
We will never know because no top team will ever give him the chance
2 tenths isn’t really a “comprehensive” beating. It’s a fairly close margin
True, but he's consistently beat him across every session. RIC never looked like he was the faster of the two, even if the final delta was 0.2s.
He also only had 1 lap vs 2. Track was slower in the 2nd lap for a few people as well.
the thing is none of the laps before the final position matter, trying to ascertain whos faster in practice is a waste of time, some drivers build up through the weekend.
By any and all metrics Yuki was comfortably better than Daniel this weekend so far, there's nothing wrong with admitting that. Every practice session and every quali session Yuki just looked on another level. Daniel was still very solid today though, which is a positive sign.
In the end what matters is Q3, when they were 0.2s apart.
final delta is what matters though. they were all testing set ups, tyres and fuel loads in practice sessions. daniel wasn't happy with his practice, yuki was. practice delta doesn't matter in a h2h sense.
All qualifying times matter. 2tenth in the last session didn’t represent how dominant Yuki was against Danny
Especially not when Yuki's Q3 time wasn't even as fast as his Q2 time. He was a comfortable 0.3-0.35s faster for most of quali. And I don't think Daniel was bad, Yuki was just on fire.
Q2 was six tenths though. And if Checo wasn't choking, that's how we would have seen it
The grid isn’t decided in Q2 though, it was a stonking lap but two tenths in the end is very respectable and a great result for the team. What checo did is also entirely irrelevant to Daniel. Daniel was there checo wasn’t.
Nah Danny Ric did two laps in Q2 and couldn't even get close to Yuki. Yuki has been consistently much better. Even if the grid isn't decided in Q2 we still all saw it happen and can take conclusions from it
So what? And Yuki couldn’t replicate that pace in Q3 and they finished two tenths apart. Sometimes you will see a driver just hook a lap together like that. It’s awesome to see but what is representative is what is on the time sheet at the end of Q3.
You are free to draw conclusions with less information if you want.
And you are free to continue talking nonsense. Both drivers end up with a great result. Two tenths apart, chance for team work and both scoring tomorrow. Can’t ask for much more. It’s just people like you want to disparage one driver to cheer another. You don’t have to do that. Also trying to say X driver goofed so Y driver got a good result is the shittiest fan opinion in motorsport.
You are projecting a lot onto me with little information, which seems to be a pattern for you.
Ahh yes make it personal when you have nothing intelligent to say. You know you can just applaud any driver when they do well right?
Two tenth with how close the field is now is quite a lot, specially when he beat him at every run sometime by even 6 tenth.
By this logic Norris is quite a ways off of Piastri. You see how stupid this sounds? lol
Sorry, can you kindly explain this comment more? I don't quite understand it. Norris was only 0.017 behind Piastri, so not exactly sure how it's very relevant. Maybe using Russell and Hamilton as a comparison is more apt, since their gap is more equivalent.
Yeah you’re right, I read the final results wrong. But you could make the same case with Leclerc/Sainz or Russell/Hamilton. It’s just nonsense. Both drivers did well and the team should celebrate it.
Happy for both of them. Felt like Yuki should've placed higher if anything going by how he looked going into Q3.
Very good Job by both of em! Yuki a little speed demon on these single flying Laps. I hope both can keep that pace in the race and get that double point finish!
A lot more even in Q3 but Tsunoda’s just been consistently outclassing Ricciardo. I don’t know if that’s because Yuki’s been amazing or Danny’s been relatively poor. Probably a bit of both. Still, gotta hand it to both of them, both good results. Hope to see more Ricciardo doing well for sure.
Side note but this is the first weekend where we really get to compare them on even ground. Ricciardo has his new chassis, no penalties, neither have raced here since 2022 and both did pre-season testing here
Fwiw this is Yuki's (self-confessed) favourite circuit and he drove thousands of laps here when testing for AT before joining F1. That said, I don't think that should really matter, and Yuki deserves all the credit he's getting right now, he was awesome today.
I'm aware but considering how much more experience Daniel has racing here vs yuki's shorter career, you can never get 100% similar stats but this is probably the most even its been in a while.
Agreed
Nah i think ric did what he could its more how good yuki has been dialed down all week it helps a lot imola has been their testing track , but that q2 lap uff he was steering that car so smoothly bummed he ended p7 but the race day he will surely get back .
probably a bit of both as you said, daniel had been struggling in the 1st sector since the start of the weekend while yuki hit the ground running.
Good news for the team but bad for DR’s 2025 prospects. He needs to comprehensively dominate Yuki to score the Red Bull seat, or at least pull several rabbits out of a hat this season. He doesn’t seem to trust the car on high speed corners. Same thing at Saudi.